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2012-12-11 12:00:08 PM
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I saw TDKR in theatres, loved it. Re-watched TDK a month later, loved it more. And now just last weekend re-watched TDKR, and I'm so on the fence.

I think Bane was simply f*cking awesone. His voice, so menacing, is mannerisms, his politeness, etc. His crushing un-waverability, ruthlessness, etc. Everything about him is larger than life and just simply amazing. One of the best villains I've seen in years. Dare I say I liked him better than The Joker.

However there are SO many loopholes. Just so incredibly many. And they fell into the trap of making the main tough guy not look so tough, in order to make the NEW good guy look tough. AKA waif-ism. Performed by 105lbs soaking wet Anne Hathaway (I know, I must be a sexist monster). That and he wasn't mysterious and in the shadows. Aside from his first appearance in the film, he was kinda terrible at being Batman.

But that aside, I still freakin love TDKR. I think Batman Begins is the best, but I just don't know which one I like better of the other two.
2012-12-13 02:28:14 AM
1 votes:
The Dark Knight is drastically overrated - even despite Ledger's terrific performance. Nolan gets far too much credit, and anyone who says TDK is the best comic book movie doesn't understand plot development, overarching themes or even character development. It wasn't even the best flick in the trilogy.

Take the ending, for instance. What sense does it make to paint Batman as the villain? Tell me which makes more sense: Telling the people of your city their newly-appointed DA, who hasn't been on the scene for less than year, was horrifically disfigured while simultaneously having to listen to the death of the love of his life via radio, causing him to go temporarily insane and make him murder a few crooked cops OR that your city's incorruptible symbol of justice has decided to turn his back on everything he had stood for and suddenly become a super villain?

This isn't up for debate. There is only one correct answer.

Nobody wants to admit it, but TDK is a lazily scripted, convoluted pile of nonsense where Nolan and his writing staff tried to tackle more themes than they had time to sort out - and even managed to screw up the ones they were capable of tying in by the roll of the credits. The world's greatest detective needs to spy on every citizen of Gotham in order to find the Joker? Are you kidding me? And this is supposed to be the "realistic" adaption?

Though incredibly predictable and sporting a completely absurd plot headed up by a main villain voiced seemingly by Sean Connery, Dark Knight Rises at least comes full circle as far as the themes are concerned. That's more than could be said for TDK.

Begins was and remains the best written of the trilogy, as well as probably the best Batman movie ever made.
2012-12-12 12:14:30 AM
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ZeroCorpse: I was underwhelmed by TDKR. It was okay, but sort of predictable.

I really don't get why they even bothered to call the villain "Bane", as he shares nothing in common with the Bane from the comics.

Bane: South American, Latino.
Movie Bane: European white guy

Bane: Grew up in prison, became tough because of it.
Movie Bane: Escaped prison as a child. Became tough because he joined the League of Shadows.

Bane: Wears a Lucha mask.
Movie Bane: Wears a weird breath mask like Darth Vader.

Bane: Requires Venom to be superhumanly huge and powerful.
Movie Bane: What's Venom? He needs his Darth Vader mask to breathe.

Bane: Broke the Bat to become Gotham City's Crimelord and defeat the demonic bat of his dreams.
Movie Bane: Broke the Bat to get him out of the way so he could destroy Gotham in a convoluted, unnecessarily slow-going plot in which he was just a pawn (why wait to detonate? Why not just do it NOW?)

Bane: Set free everyone in Arkham Asylum, including the costumed villains.
Movie Bane: Let the Blackgate prisoners free. Just normal criminals.

Bane: Master of disguise.
Movie Bane: Master of droll comments and bad costuming.

Bane: Photographic memory and genius I.Q..
Movie Bane: Smart, but gullible.

Bane: Eventually helped Ras Al Ghul and Talia release a virus into Gotham and the world.
Movie Bane: Helped Talia drive a nuke around Gotham for a few months until Catwoman killed him.

It's just not Bane in the movie. It's Batman Darth Vader Terrorist.


So..either you've never watch the movie at all or you didn't finish watching it because you got several things wrong with "Movie Bane."
2012-12-11 06:18:02 PM
1 votes:

sure haven't: I saw TDKR in theatres, loved it. Re-watched TDK a month later, loved it more. And now just last weekend re-watched TDKR, and I'm so on the fence.

I think Bane was simply f*cking awesone. His voice, so menacing, is mannerisms, his politeness, etc. His crushing un-waverability, ruthlessness, etc. Everything about him is larger than life and just simply amazing. One of the best villains I've seen in years. Dare I say I liked him better than The Joker.

However there are SO many loopholes. Just so incredibly many. And they fell into the trap of making the main tough guy not look so tough, in order to make the NEW good guy look tough. AKA waif-ism. Performed by 105lbs soaking wet Anne Hathaway (I know, I must be a sexist monster). That and he wasn't mysterious and in the shadows. Aside from his first appearance in the film, he was kinda terrible at being Batman.

But that aside, I still freakin love TDKR. I think Batman Begins is the best, but I just don't know which one I like better of the other two.


What really got me was the idea that a genius criminal mastermind would be the puppy-love protector rather than the badass they built him up to be. I will say though, Tom Hardy nailed that farking role. Even his fight sequences, the projected brutality fit the character.
2012-12-11 03:12:14 PM
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Wayne 985: Tyrone Slothrop: Missing from the list:

The Grey
Cabin in the Woods
The Avengers (hey, if you're going to include DKR, this is a better superhero movie)
Brave
Killer Joe
Looper
Cloud Atlas

The Avengers was somewhat disappointing to me. Good movie and fun, but the story was shallow and half the characters felt lifeless. C+ or B- to me.

Haven't seen the others you listed, though The Grey looks great.


It's a really good movie. However, if you're just going by the ads, it's not Liam Neeson fighting wolves for 90 minutes. It's much more of a character piece.
2012-12-11 02:44:38 PM
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Tyrone Slothrop: ZeroCorpse: Movie Bane: Escaped prison as a child.

No. Pay closer attention to the movie next time.


Why does it always seem that people with criticisms of TDKR appear to have fallen asleep during the film? It drives me crazy.
2012-12-11 02:32:32 PM
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: Movie Bane: Escaped prison as a child.


No. Pay closer attention to the movie next time.
2012-12-11 02:06:10 PM
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stuhayes2010: Just watched Sark Knight Rises and I am disapoint. I loved the first two movies, but the third was just plain bad. Bane's voice was almost comical and the plot was boring.


Ive seen it three times now. Its grown on me more each viewing. As the last act of the trilogy its great. Of the three movies, its the weakest. But as part of the body of work as a whole, it really closes things out nicely.
2012-12-11 11:33:10 AM
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stuhayes2010: Just watched Sark Knight Rises and I am disapoint. I loved the first two movies, but the third was just plain bad. Bane's voice was almost comical and the plot was boring.


Are you sure you weren't watching this?

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Bane's voice was distracting the first time I watched it. Watching it again I found it immensely more enjoyable. The intricacies of his voice are very deliberate.
 
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