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(Townhall)   Fox News portrays itself as "fair and balanced," and while many of its hosts are conservative, a fair number are liberal, and even on their commentary shows, they almost always have liberal representatives present the left's position on issues   (townhall.com) divider line 156
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2012-12-11 11:50:03 AM

AirForceVet: Whar the "liberal representatives?"

Whenever I catch Fox News on at work (which nearly every TV is tuned to all over the building), I only see the Fox News announcers interviewing Republicans, conservatives, or former members of Republican administrations.


Has anyone pointed out that Fox News had Michael "Heck of a Job" Brown on as a Democratic strategist? How about how their other Democratic strategists work for Republican campaigns regularly, are invited to private conservative events, and are primarily on to discuss how Obama screwed the pooch on the issue of the day? Heck, they publicly urged Obama not to seek reelection because of how poor his performance has been/how badly Republicans would beat him this year.
 
2012-12-11 11:57:45 AM

DeltaPunch: CreamFilling: RexTalionis: Conservative Media Are Is Not the Problem

Someone should get this man a grammar checker.

Dude, you're smarter than that.

Why? The general rule for collective nouns (team, media, group, etc.) is to use the singular verb when the group is considered as a single unit: 1) Our team is really good.

Pluralization is then used to emphasize individual members of the group: 2) The team are in disagreement over their positions.

Same rule applies to media, since the word is generally considered a collective entity. 1) Conservative media (all of it) is not the problem. 2) When it comes to television and radio, well, two media are better than one.

So I think his correction stands.


You can use either is or are with media, but which one you use affects how the term should be perceived. The fact that he said "are" when "is" is the common convention should signal that either he specifically meant it as a plural or an overzealous editor had already changed it.
 
2012-12-11 12:03:19 PM

AirForceVet: Whar the "liberal representatives?"

Whenever I catch Fox News on at work (which nearly every TV is tuned to all over the building), I only see the Fox News announcers interviewing Republicans, conservatives, or former members of Republican administrations.


Sounds like the company I work for. In the main lobbies of their buildings they have big TVs tuned into FOX News all day long. Luckily I work off-site and am not exposed to it, but last year I had to work 4 months at one of the buildings. Every time I was in the lobby it almost felt like I was in North Korea being bombarded with party propoganda.
 
2012-12-11 12:05:15 PM
Foxnews most certainly have the most biased mouthpieces...from Diane Sawyer to Martin Bashir...and sinking to the depths of Chris Matthews, Joy Behar and Brian Williams.
 
2012-12-11 12:05:15 PM

Klippoklondike: Shepard Smith seems like an alright guy.

That's about it.


What's her name -- the blonde one, is hot
 
2012-12-11 12:10:09 PM

heavymetal: AirForceVet: Whar the "liberal representatives?"

Whenever I catch Fox News on at work (which nearly every TV is tuned to all over the building), I only see the Fox News announcers interviewing Republicans, conservatives, or former members of Republican administrations.

Sounds like the company I work for. In the main lobbies of their buildings they have big TVs tuned into FOX News all day long. Luckily I work off-site and am not exposed to it, but last year I had to work 4 months at one of the buildings. Every time I was in the lobby it almost felt like I was in North Korea being bombarded with party propoganda.


Here is what I am perplexed about. If it was a corporate building, where execs, sales, marketing, etc were located, would I really want Fox News on my TVs? Sure, as a business man, my interests probably lie in the conservative so i can avoid taxes like it was my job, but that doesn't mean I would believe any of the dogshiat on Fox. And if I was the CEO of the company (maybe I'm thinking too blue chip), would I want clients or associates seeing that dreck and thinking I or my company are a bunch of country bumpkins?

I guess if it's just a building where are the plebes work, that makes sense.
 
2012-12-11 12:11:43 PM

make me some tea: dickfreckle: make me some tea: Oh, sure, they do bring liberals onto their programs, but it's only to shout at them about how they're wrong and then cut their mic before they have a chance to respond.

That's what is so frustrating about this type. Let's face it - they're bullies. Statements not jibing with your narrative? Shout them down! Rush patented this.

I could live with Fox pushing their propaganda if they only allowed some sort of contrary air in that vacuum. But they don't. Therefore, I call bullsh*t.

I think that's why I have a visceral abhorrence to right-wing media. I can't stand that bullying crap. Had enough of that in junior high school.


What really pisses me off is how they are the bully and act like the victim, sometimes at the SAME TIME.

'You are watching the number one undisputed highest ratings and most watched mainstream media news channel Fox News who is constantly every hour silenced and under the heel of the liberal MSM.'
 
2012-12-11 12:14:30 PM

JW: Like many myopic liberals, he is blind to liberal media bias and intolerant of the opposing viewpoint. As a result of their arrogance and the cloistered echo-chambered environments they inhabit, most liberals don't believe liberal journalists slant their reporting, but present the only reasonable take on the issues.

At least conservatives, both in the media and in public service, are more honest with themselves and others about their own beliefs and biases, and thus represent much less danger to the republic than liberal politicians and media masquerading as neutral, unbiased, objective or bipartisan. Even so, conservatives would never advocate chilling or suppressing liberal speech in any way.

That is a statement that can only come from the unbiased and nonpartisan point of view. If any of you need an example of textbook objectivity, this is it right here. Anything that does not agree with it is liberal myopy.


7/10
 
2012-12-11 12:18:07 PM
Personally, I love that FOX News describes itself as "balanced". It suggests that they're starting out with a predetermined conclusion and have to bring in the other side, you know, for "fairness".

You don't need to be "balanced" when you stick to the goddamn facts. They are what they are.
 
2012-12-11 12:25:20 PM
Which Liberal did they have on Fox prior to election night predicting that Obama would win the election by 332 EVs? Must have missed that.
 
2012-12-11 12:29:03 PM

urbangirl: "The team are..." is ALWAYS wrong.


That's not correct. What I typed is absolutely fine, despite the fact that you may not have seen it before. I believe it's one of those things that's more common in British English than American, but it is absolutely correct.  

One way to think of it: "after the game, the team shower and change into their street clothes." You can see how the singular would be preposterous here (its street clothes). Yes, of course you can type "members of the team" as an alternative, but that doesn't change the fact that -- depending on context -- it is perfectly fine to use "the team are".
 
2012-12-11 12:32:49 PM
Speaking of fair and balanced, just saw this lovely ad here on Fark

pagead2.googlesyndication.com

Seriously, Drew, WTF?
 
2012-12-11 12:35:41 PM

JW: Even so, conservatives would never advocate chilling or suppressing liberal speech in any way.


Wasn't there just a thread about a parade in South Carolina, jut a few threads up?
 
2012-12-11 12:39:23 PM

zarberg: Speaking of fair and balanced, just saw this lovely ad here on Fark

[pagead2.googlesyndication.com image 300x250]

Seriously, Drew, WTF?


i.qkme.me

The fundies are getting even more desperate after the election. I hope they gnaw on each others' genitals until their jaws drop off, these f*cking faux patriot cretins.
 
2012-12-11 12:43:22 PM

Diogenes: [www.interestingtopics.net image 447x341]
We attempted to reach one of Fox News' liberal voices but were told she
was unavailable for an indefinite amount of time.

 

"We're playing house."

"That girl is tied up!"

"It's Roman Polanski's house." 

fonepics.net
 
2012-12-11 12:43:53 PM

RexTalionis: Conservative Media Are Is Not the Problem

Someone should get this man a grammar checker.


Media
Medium

Which one's singular in *your* dictionary?

/The data are in.
 
2012-12-11 12:45:41 PM

karnal: Foxnews most certainly have the most biased mouthpieces...from Diane Sawyer to Martin Bashir...and sinking to the depths of Chris Matthews, Joy Behar and Brian Williams.


t.qkme.me
 
2012-12-11 12:46:00 PM

zarberg: Speaking of fair and balanced, just saw this lovely ad here on Fark

[pagead2.googlesyndication.com image 300x250]

Seriously, Drew, WTF?


C'mon, you'll wade through 5 Contact Music links, dredge through some weapons grade DERP from American Thinker and Investors Business Daily whatever, and see 5 of the next 6 links from the Daily Mail, and you think Drew gives a good goddam who sends him a check?



And that's your Jose Cuervo Desperate Cash Grab of the WeekTM!(sponsored link)
 
2012-12-11 12:50:10 PM

RminusQ: RexTalionis: Conservative Media Are Is Not the Problem

Someone should get this man a grammar checker.

While popular usage has "media" as a singular noun, it is properly speaking the plural of "medium". If the sucky blog is saying that none out of Fox News, Fox Business, the WSJ, the NY Post, the Washington Times, the Rush Limbaugh Show, The Sean Hannity Show, Examiner.com, RedState.com, and their own sucky blog are the problem, then using "media" as a plural is perfectly legitimate.

/unlike, say, the rest of that sentence, or their perpetual claim that there are no conservatives in the media
//when referring to "the media", however, it is generally taken to be singular


Which is why I've taken to calling it "The Press" and "The Internet"
 
2012-12-11 12:50:16 PM

coeyagi: zarberg: Speaking of fair and balanced, just saw this lovely ad here on Fark

[pagead2.googlesyndication.com image 300x250]

Seriously, Drew, WTF?

[i.qkme.me image 625x87]

The fundies are getting even more desperate after the election. I hope they gnaw on each others' genitals until their jaws drop off, these f*cking faux patriot cretins.


That's just fishing for e-mail addresses. Watch last night's Rachel Maddow.
 
2012-12-11 12:52:31 PM

zarberg: Speaking of fair and balanced, just saw this lovely ad here on Fark

[pagead2.googlesyndication.com image 300x250]

Seriously, Drew, WTF?


I never see those. Clear you cookies and see if it comes back again.
 
2012-12-11 12:53:58 PM

ms_lara_croft: FTA: "Fox News portrays itself as "fair and balanced," and while many of its hosts are conservative, a fair number are liberal, and even on their commentary shows, they almost always have liberal representatives present the left's position on issues they're debating."

From their point of view, somebody has to provide the comic relief.


It's more like they just invent whatever a liberal is saying, then pay someone to project that. If they do dare have a liberal on their show, they'll either be a cartoonish wimp or a raving psycho that makes Fox's commentators look calm and collected. The only time they don't adhere to this formula, shows get cancelled and pundits get embarrassed.
 
2012-12-11 12:59:39 PM
i.qkme.me

Saying informatory things to make money is so much better than giving head.
 
2012-12-11 01:04:19 PM

karnal: Publikwerks

karnal: Publikwerks

I've argued this with my parents many times, as they cite "Look, that guys is a Liberal. They have both sides.". The reason is that many of their shows use the same techniques my HS AP Government class teacher taught us on how to frame an argument.

1. Lead with a thesis.
2. State the oppositions argument.
3. Discredit that argument, lead with your counter
4. Make 2 more arguments, finishing with your strongest
5. Restate Thesis/conclusion

I don't watch Fox really, but my parents had me watch "The Five" with them once. They come back from commercial, throw out the topic of discussion, let Bob the liberal chime in with a mediocre point, and then dog pile on him.

The whole show is built to favor the four and discredit the liberal. Much like most of Fox News.


When you grow up and move away from home you can watch anything you want!

I drop my son off in the morning and pick him up in the afternoon at my parents. They get him on and off the bus. I watched "The Five" once. Now, I just leave the room.


I'm sorry if my quip was misinterpreted as a request for your life story.....it wasn't.


Well, you can't bust heads on the internet, but there are tricks to dealing with wise-asses like yourself. My favorite, which you have just gotten a sample of is to tell 'em stories that don't go anywhere - like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville.....
I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Give me five bees for a quarter, you'd say.

Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
 
2012-12-11 01:04:55 PM

derpy: coeyagi: zarberg: Speaking of fair and balanced, just saw this lovely ad here on Fark

[pagead2.googlesyndication.com image 300x250]

Seriously, Drew, WTF?

[i.qkme.me image 625x87]

The fundies are getting even more desperate after the election. I hope they gnaw on each others' genitals until their jaws drop off, these f*cking faux patriot cretins.

That's just fishing for e-mail addresses. Watch last night's Rachel Maddow.


I half paid attention to it. The amount of huckstering on the right is about what you'd expect given the average IQ of their quarry.
 
2012-12-11 01:10:13 PM

Citrate1007: Conservative Media Are Not the Problem says conservative journalist shill David Limbaugh.


Pretty obvious fair and balanced review of an equally fair and balanced network. Suck it Libtards.

FTAs byline: "David Limbaugh, brother of radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, is an expert in law and politics and author of new book Crimes Against Liberty, the definitive chronicle of Barack Obama's devastating term in office so far."
 
2012-12-11 01:16:17 PM
On Bullshiat mountain people believe that Fox News is the only reasonable voice of truth, and that CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, BBC, CBC, NPR, Time, Newsweek, Nate Silver, mathematics and facts are part of a vast liberal conspiracy. If they report on FACTS that are contrary to our OPINION they must be bias.

Let me give you an example.

I don't believe in climate change.

Fox News reports "news" that climate change is exaggerated or unproven.

Scientists and their data are just part of the Liberal agenda.

rinse and repeat for human reproduction, voting rights, the "gay agenda", war on Christmas etc..
 
2012-12-11 01:18:33 PM

Publikwerks: Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...


LOL
 
2012-12-11 01:25:03 PM
My grandmother wholeheartedly believes this. I don't discuss politics with her (somehow she took me being bisexual and Pagan as me being clinically depressed, at which point I gave the f**k up), but every so often I'm tempted to point out that 'Fox liberals' actually entered the English language as a slang phrase, which is surprisingly hard to do.

/She still wouldn't get it, I have a feeling her scientific knowledge extends to 'the sky is blue'.
 
2012-12-11 01:37:59 PM

DeltaPunch: urbangirl: "The team are..." is ALWAYS wrong.

That's not correct. What I typed is absolutely fine, despite the fact that you may not have seen it before. I believe it's one of those things that's more common in British English than American, but it is absolutely correct.  

One way to think of it: "after the game, the team shower and change into their street clothes." You can see how the singular would be preposterous here (its street clothes). Yes, of course you can type "members of the team" as an alternative, but that doesn't change the fact that -- depending on context -- it is perfectly fine to use "the team are".


Nope. It's not British English, it's sloppy English. And that's whether a Brit or an American is saying it. "The team" is singular.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
2012-12-11 01:45:27 PM

urbangirl: Nope. It's not British English, it's sloppy English. And that's whether a Brit or an American is saying it. "The team" is singular.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.


Two good examples of collective nouns are "team" and "government", which are both words referring to groups of (usually) people. Both "team" and "government" are count nouns. (Consider: "one team", "two teams", "most teams"; "one government", "two governments", "many governments"). However, confusion often stems from the fact that plural verb forms are often used in British English with the singular forms of these count nouns (for example: "The team have finished the project."). Conversely, in the English language as a whole, singular verb forms can often be used with nouns ending in "-s" that were once considered plural (for example: "Physics is my favorite academic subject"). This apparent "number mismatch" is actually a quite natural and logical feature of human language, and its mechanism is a subtle metonymic shift in the thoughts underlying the words.
In British English, it is generally accepted that collective nouns can take either singular or plural verb forms depending on the context and the metonymic shift that it implies. For example, "the team is in the dressing room" (formal agreement) refers to the team as an ensemble, whilst "the team are fighting among themselves" (notional agreement) refers to the team as individuals. This is also British English practice with names of countries and cities in sports contexts; for example, "Germany have won the competition.", "Madrid have lost three consecutive matches.", etc. In American English, collective nouns almost invariably take singular verb forms (formal agreement). In cases where a metonymic shift would be otherwise revealed nearby, the whole sentence may be recast to avoid the metonymy. (For example, "The team are fighting among themselves" may become "the team members are fighting among themselves" or simply "The team is fighting.") See American and British English differences - Formal and notional agreement.
A good example of such a metonymic shift in the singular-to-plural direction (which, generally speaking, only occurs in British English) is the following sentence: "The team have finished the project." In that sentence, the underlying thought is of the individual members of the team working together to finish the project. Their accomplishment is collective, and the emphasis is not on their individual identities, yet they are at the same time still discrete individuals; the word choice "team have" manages to convey both their collective and discrete identities simultaneously. A good example of such a metonymic shift in the plural-to-singular direction is the following sentence: "Mathematics is my favorite academic subject." The word "mathematics" may have originally been plural in concept, referring to mathematic endeavors, but metonymic shift-that is, the shift in concept from "the endeavors" to "the whole set of endeavors"-produced the usage of "mathematics" as a singular entity taking singular verb forms. (A true mass-noun sense of "mathematics" followed naturally.)
Nominally singular pronouns can be collective nouns taking plural verbs, according to the same rules that apply to other collective nouns. For example, it is correct British English or American English usage to say: "None are so fallible as those who are sure they're right." In this case, the plural verb is used because the context for "none" suggests more than one thing or person.[1]

Link
 
2012-12-11 01:47:36 PM

czei: "To them, it is not biased to denigrate the conservative viewpoint, because to them that viewpoint is aberrational. To them, for example, there aren't two sides to manmade global warming; there is just the fact-based community and the deniers. To them, science-based intelligent design is, oddly, anti-science, whereas macroevolution, which can't begin to explain the formation of matter from nothing, much less life from non-life, is an incontrovertible fact. "

Yup, anyone who doesn't drink the derp is obviously biased.


FFS.
 
2012-12-11 01:48:59 PM

urbangirl: DeltaPunch: urbangirl: "The team are..." is ALWAYS wrong.

That's not correct. What I typed is absolutely fine, despite the fact that you may not have seen it before. I believe it's one of those things that's more common in British English than American, but it is absolutely correct.  

One way to think of it: "after the game, the team shower and change into their street clothes." You can see how the singular would be preposterous here (its street clothes). Yes, of course you can type "members of the team" as an alternative, but that doesn't change the fact that -- depending on context -- it is perfectly fine to use "the team are".

Nope. It's not British English, it's sloppy English. And that's whether a Brit or an American is saying it. "The team" is singular.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.


It's like "data."

We usually say "The data indicates that _______," unless we're elitist douchebags.
 
2012-12-11 01:53:50 PM
I move that we need to be able to double-tag things, because this SCREAMS for both Amusing and Unlikely.
 
2012-12-11 01:54:04 PM

urbangirl: Nope. It's not British English, it's sloppy English. And that's whether a Brit or an American is saying it. "The team" is singular.


This is incorrect. According to both my actual experience, as well as Wikipedia: In British English, it is generally accepted that collective nouns can take either singular or plural verb forms depending on the context and the metonymic shift that it implies. For example, "the team is in the dressing room" (formal agreement) refers to the team as an ensemble, whilst "the team are fighting among themselves" (notional agreement) refers to the team as individuals. This is also British English practice with names of countries and cities in sports contexts; for example, "Germany have won the competition.", "Madrid have lost three consecutive matches.", etc. In American English, collective nouns almost invariably take singular verb forms.

urbangirl: I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.


Or you could just admit that you are wrong.
 
2012-12-11 01:57:00 PM
Wait a minute. This Townhall article was written by David Limbaugh? Son of Rush Limbaugh?
Why not just link to articles in Stormfront?
 
2012-12-11 02:08:40 PM

red5ish: Wait a minute. This Townhall article was written by David Limbaugh? Son of Rush Limbaugh?
Why not just link to articles in Stormfront?


brother
 
2012-12-11 02:23:46 PM
He's right, you know. The Conservative Media isn't the problem, it's just one major problem among many.
 
2012-12-11 02:45:13 PM

plewis: He's right, you know. The Conservative Media aren't the problem, they're just a few major problems among many.


Where do we draw the line for inciting a riot?
 
2012-12-11 03:05:05 PM
Publikwerks

karnal: Publikwerks

karnal: Publikwerks

I've argued this with my parents many times, as they cite "Look, that guys is a Liberal. They have both sides.". The reason is that many of their shows use the same techniques my HS AP Government class teacher taught us on how to frame an argument.

1. Lead with a thesis.
2. State the oppositions argument.
3. Discredit that argument, lead with your counter
4. Make 2 more arguments, finishing with your strongest
5. Restate Thesis/conclusion

I don't watch Fox really, but my parents had me watch "The Five" with them once. They come back from commercial, throw out the topic of discussion, let Bob the liberal chime in with a mediocre point, and then dog pile on him.

The whole show is built to favor the four and discredit the liberal. Much like most of Fox News.


When you grow up and move away from home you can watch anything you want!

I drop my son off in the morning and pick him up in the afternoon at my parents. They get him on and off the bus. I watched "The Five" once. Now, I just leave the room.


I'm sorry if my quip was misinterpreted as a request for your life story.....it wasn't.

Well, you can't bust heads on the internet, but there are tricks to dealing with wise-asses like yourself. My favorite, which you have just gotten a sample of is to tell 'em stories that don't go anywhere - like the time I caught a fairy from Shelbyville.....
I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Give me five bees for a quarter, you'd say.

Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...



You caught a fairy from Shelbyville? Was it even fairy season?
 
2012-12-11 04:27:26 PM
By liberals they mean someone the hosts can yell at through the segment and talk in condescending tones to.

Shep Smith is ok, The rest are blowhards or blondes that were hired just for looks and can read GOP talking points well
 
2012-12-11 04:49:04 PM

karnal: Publikwerks

karnal: Publikwerks

karnal: Publikwerks

I've argued this with my parents many times, as they cite "Look, that guys is a Liberal. They have both sides.". The reason is that many of their shows use the same techniques my HS AP Government class teacher taught us on how to frame an argument.

1. Lead with a thesis.
2. State the oppositions argument.
3. Discredit that argument, lead with your counter
4. Make 2 more arguments, finishing with your strongest
5. Restate Thesis/conclusion

I don't watch Fox really, but my parents had me watch "The Five" with them once. They come back from commercial, throw out the topic of discussion, let Bob the liberal chime in with a mediocre point, and then dog pile on him.

The whole show is built to favor the four and discredit the liberal. Much like most of Fox News.


When you grow up and move away from home you can watch anything you want!

I drop my son off in the morning and pick him up in the afternoon at my parents. They get him on and off the bus. I watched "The Five" once. Now, I just leave the room.


I'm sorry if my quip was misinterpreted as a request for your life story.....it wasn't.

Well, you can't bust heads on the internet, but there are tricks to dealing with wise-asses like yourself. My favorite, which you have just gotten a sample of is to tell 'em stories that don't go anywhere - like the time I caught a fairy from Shelbyville.....
I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Give me five bees for a quarter, you'd say.

Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...


You caught a fairy from ...


In Shelbyville they're always in season. Personally, I take the ferry there every spring to catch a few.
 
2012-12-11 04:50:08 PM

RexTalionis: Conservative Media Are Is Not the Problem

Someone should get this man a grammar checker.


While media is the plural of medium, the word has taken on more meaning than its pluralising state. The OED lists it as referring to mass produced journalism, and first coined in 1926. You can say drawing and painting are different art media (or mediums), but when people say 'media', they're talking about mass produced journalism. Saying "the conservative media" would mean "the conservative newspapers, tv shows, and blogs", not multiple specific shows or websites. If multiple forms of journalism is what he is referring to, then he is technically correct. However, I don't believe the headline is supposed to read: "Conservative mediums of journalism are not the problem". Because that would imply that certain mediums are inherently conservative, and, as we know, mediums of journalism should actually be inherently liberal...because reality. Thus: he might be technically correct in his grammar, but only really if he is incorrect in his intended meaning, but if his meaning is wrong, then his grammar is wrong.

tldr; RexTalionis is right, someone should get David Limbaugh a grammar checker.
 
2012-12-11 05:31:32 PM
Subby is right. The game goes something like this:

Liberal pundit: "We think taxes on the wealthiest Americans should be raised by 2 percentage points so we can help pay down the national debt."

Conservative pundit: "FARK OFF YOU FARKING LIBERAL COMMUNIST! THIS IS CLASS WARFARE! YOU'RE TRYING TO DESTROY THE JOB CREATORS AND RUIN THE COUNTRY THAT WAS BUILT BY NOTHING BUT HONEST HARD WORK AND JESUS!"

Fox Host: "Yeah, no kidding. Why are you such a liberal idiot? For that matter, why are all liberals such complete idiots?"
 
2012-12-11 05:46:06 PM
To them, for example, there aren't two sides to manmade global warming; there is just the fact-based community and the deniers.

that and their other examples work for me.
 
2012-12-11 05:51:49 PM
and speaking of your oxymoron's:

To them, science-based intelligent design is,
 
2012-12-11 06:23:47 PM
i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-11 06:24:19 PM
what an idiotic circle-jerk. a bunch of political "geniuses" in here ragging on how they imagine the fox news channel treats their liberal commentators.

please carry on with your wild-eyed whackadoodliness.
 
2012-12-11 08:16:03 PM
FOX news. We distort, you deride.
 
2012-12-11 11:56:15 PM

coeyagi: heavymetal: AirForceVet: Whar the "liberal representatives?"

Whenever I catch Fox News on at work (which nearly every TV is tuned to all over the building), I only see the Fox News announcers interviewing Republicans, conservatives, or former members of Republican administrations.

Sounds like the company I work for. In the main lobbies of their buildings they have big TVs tuned into FOX News all day long. Luckily I work off-site and am not exposed to it, but last year I had to work 4 months at one of the buildings. Every time I was in the lobby it almost felt like I was in North Korea being bombarded with party propoganda.

Here is what I am perplexed about. If it was a corporate building, where execs, sales, marketing, etc were located, would I really want Fox News on my TVs? Sure, as a business man, my interests probably lie in the conservative so i can avoid taxes like it was my job, but that doesn't mean I would believe any of the dogshiat on Fox. And if I was the CEO of the company (maybe I'm thinking too blue chip), would I want clients or associates seeing that dreck and thinking I or my company are a bunch of country bumpkins?

I guess if it's just a building where are the plebes work, that makes sense.


No, it's engineers and such. It's a military contracting outfit in Alabama, they think it is all patriotic and stuff. Everyone either lives in the echo chamber or keeps their mouths shut in order not to ruin their careers.
 
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