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(Marketwatch)   Republicans go French, surrender on La Falaise Fiscale   (marketwatch.com) divider line 21
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2012-12-11 09:15:03 AM  
Someone has been reading Le Monde. Stop it. If you're not already French, then it'll make you stupider.
 
2012-12-11 10:31:11 AM  

minoridiot: Someone has been reading Le Monde. Stop it. If you're not already French, then it'll make you stupider.


encycl.opentopia.com
Frowns on your shenanigans.
 
2012-12-11 10:35:47 AM  
Authored by Rex Nutting.
 
2012-12-11 10:37:26 AM  
The only thing that stands in the way of a deal now is for the Republicans to recognize that they've already given up on their core principles.

Here's the problem: Republicans have no principals.

They want to cut government spending, but not only do they refuse to touch the $665 billion defense budget, but they want to increase it and establish a floor tied to GDP.
 
2012-12-11 10:38:27 AM  
I'll believe it when i see it.
 
2012-12-11 10:39:42 AM  
This is the state of the "deal" that has been bandied about

1) the rich toss in their pocket change
2) Granny and the working poor are further immiserated

All the while, Dems get savaged for raising taxes AND slashing the safety net.

Congressional Republicans are liars and thieves and have less than zero interest in good governance. They cannot be trusted to act in good faith.
 
2012-12-11 10:42:46 AM  
Stupid author is stupid.

For a second, before I started reading, I thought I might not be reading an editorial.
 
2012-12-11 10:43:59 AM  
I don't see that Republicans have given in on the higher tax rate for the wealthy. They need to do that so we can get this party started.
 
2012-12-11 10:44:05 AM  
Republicans on the verge of a deal, perhaps putting country before party, and the author goes and writes something like this:

"The only thing that stands in the way of a deal now is for the Republicans to recognize that they've already given up on their core principles."

You are everything that's wrong with our country and our political system. Things are getting worse precisely because of idiots like you that insist on "winning" every battle at any and all cost, including (god forbid) compromise and progress. You should go blow yourself and then throw yourself off a cliff, you douche-cock.
 
2012-12-11 10:45:42 AM  

urbangirl: Authored by Rex Nutting.


I prefer my fiscal cliff coverage from reporters with aggressively masculinosexual names. See also fine work by Hannibal Thrustmore and Maximilian Spooge.
 
2012-12-11 10:59:52 AM  
urbangirl: Authored by Rex Nutting.

I prefer my fiscal cliff coverage from reporters with aggressively masculinosexual names. See also fine work by Hannibal Thrustmore and Maximilian Spooge.


Dirk Hardpec
 
2012-12-11 11:02:15 AM  

DeltaPunch: You are everything that's wrong with our country and our political system. Things are getting worse precisely because of idiots like you that insist on "winning" every battle at any and all cost, including (god forbid) compromise and progress.


Amen. Who will be the first politician to say, "[The other side] blinked."
 
2012-12-11 11:05:43 AM  

ngaoistyast: urbangirl: Authored by Rex Nutting.

I prefer my fiscal cliff coverage from reporters with aggressively masculinosexual names. See also fine work by Hannibal Thrustmore and Maximilian Spooge.

Dirk Hardpec


Dirk Not-So-Gently
 
2012-12-11 11:05:44 AM  
Remember that Norquest says ANY increase in revenue is a TAX increase and any republican that increases revenue is increasing TAXes and so is breaking the pledge.

/Norquest pledge has done more to elect Dems than anything else in the last few election cycles
//keep to the pledge, please, as people blame those R's for the fiscal cliff and all its problems
 
2012-12-11 11:11:56 AM  
Rush Limbaugh Friday:

[Obama] is desperate to get Boehner to sign off on raising taxes on the rich. That's ball game for Obama. If he can get that, he gets a confession. What Obama wants is a confession, an admission from the Republicans that as it was tax cuts that led to all the problems that we're having.

From now 'til the end of time he wants that to be economic and political science history that is taught to every young skull full of mush. The Reagan tax cuts, the Bush tax cuts in 2001, 2003, that's why you don't have a house; that's why you don't have a job; that's why your savings are depleted; that's why we're in an economic mess, is because the rich haven't been paying everything they should. It had nothing to do with spending. It has nothing to do with entitlements. It has nothing to do about anything government's doing. It's the rich have been given an unfair shake by virtue of being allowed to keep much more than they need, much more than they want, much more than they deserve.
 
2012-12-11 11:25:12 AM  
I came here for a "Doing the French Mistake" reference and leaving strangely unfufilled.

/ennui, ENNUI!!!
 
2012-12-11 11:29:49 AM  
If we don't do something about closing the Falaise Fiscale, hundreds of thousands of Nazi soldiers will escape back into Germany.
 
2012-12-11 11:33:13 AM  

SlothB77: Rush Limbaugh Friday:

[Obama] is desperate to get Boehner to sign off on raising taxes on the rich. That's ball game for Obama. If he can get that, he gets a confession. What Obama wants is a confession, an admission from the Republicans that as it was tax cuts that led to all the problems that we're having.

From now 'til the end of time he wants that to be economic and political science history that is taught to every young skull full of mush. The Reagan tax cuts, the Bush tax cuts in 2001, 2003, that's why you don't have a house; that's why you don't have a job; that's why your savings are depleted; that's why we're in an economic mess, is because the rich haven't been paying everything they should. It had nothing to do with spending. It has nothing to do with entitlements. It has nothing to do about anything government's doing. It's the rich have been given an unfair shake by virtue of being allowed to keep much more than they need, much more than they want, much more than they deserve.


Putting aside all the derp, he is partially on to something here. I do believe the Democrats see an opportunity to "break" the GOP. It's not all that different from union-busting efforts on the right wing. Obama has the House Republicans backed into a corner and he knows it. It's up to him to decide how much of a pound of flesh to extract, and he also knows the House leadership is dysfunctional enough to not cut it's losses.

It also explains the blogger handwringing. Once the GOP goes down the path of giving in on positions it has held so strongly, it's really not prepared to cope with the internal civil war that will break out.
 
2012-12-11 11:46:29 AM  
It's funny that the GOP claims to be resisting higher taxes. The thing is, they've already voted for the tax hikes. It's law. It's coming and it's their fault.

The only open question on tax rate adjustments is whether or not Republicans will join the Democrats to lower taxes on 98% of Americans. The tax rate increases are a done deal and people should stop talking about voting for them in anything but the past tense.
 
2012-12-11 11:53:53 AM  

DeltaPunch: Republicans on the verge of a deal, perhaps putting country before party, and the author goes and writes something like this:

"The only thing that stands in the way of a deal now is for the Republicans to recognize that they've already given up on their core principles."

You are everything that's wrong with our country and our political system. Things are getting worse precisely because of idiots like you that insist on "winning" every battle at any and all cost, including (god forbid) compromise and progress. You should go blow yourself and then throw yourself off a cliff, you douche-cock.


Except that many of us don't want to see the GOP drop their "core principles." We don't want them compromise. We want them to keep on insisting on their misguided program and pledges and whatnot until there's not a single Republican national elected official left. It's the best way to return our system to a state where rational people who disagee and are willing to talk it over and find common ground and make compromises can get things done. If the GOP feels pushed to cave in this time, that will only make them more embittered and inflexible the next time. It won't solve anything in the long run. The total crushing of the Republican Party will.

/used to work for a moderately liberal Democratic Texas U.S. senator
//when such a thing was still possible
 
2012-12-11 10:09:44 PM  
The very fact that we're worried about the deficit instead of jobs was the ultimate win for the GOP. Austerity has failed all over Europe, but we've already agreed to jump on that train. Now it's only a question of how brutal it will get.

If Republicans were more pragmatic, they would be happy as a clam right now.
 
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