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(Washington Post)   The Army sounds fat   ( divider line
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10233 clicks; posted to Main » on 11 Dec 2012 at 4:41 AM (5 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2012-12-11 06:34:40 AM  
2 votes:
Congratulations, conservatives. You wanted save money by cutting physical education classes. You wanted kids to eat whatever processed garbage their parents could afford on minimum wage instead of real food. You demonized people who encouraged kids to exercise as impinging on their freedom. Now you have a national security concern on your hands. Thanks for nothing, assclowns.
2012-12-11 05:16:51 AM  
2 votes:

ModernLuddite: Does the army just not make soldiers run around and climb stuff anymore?

No, seriously. I thought that was what you did at first. How do you get or stay fat in the army? Do you get to go on march on a rascal scooter? Do they serve cheesecake IV's at all hours? HOW?!?

Some units do formal PT (physical training) for 2 hours, 3-5 times a week. Other units? Eh, you know what you need to do to pass the PT and weight tests, so hit the gym on your own time.

Also much off-duty beer drinking, barracks parties, etc.

Too fat for the Army = slender compared to most of the civilian population of fatties.
2012-12-11 07:11:57 AM  
1 vote:
Color coded food choices at Basic Training? When I went through basic at Ft Sill in 1993 C battery 3/321 we were not allowed to drink pop ( yes I said pop, fark you) or get short order menu items like cheeseburgers or chili dogs, fries, or any kinds of desserts. I guess a lot has changed since my day.
2012-12-11 06:19:34 AM  
1 vote:
If the military wanted to slim the troops down the first thing they should do is kick out about 30% of the guys over the rank of E5 or O-3. These are the fat asses.
The military always scales itself down by reducing the lower ranks, always has, always will. Thats why we got more General Officers in the Army now, than we did in the 50's and 60's when the military was significantly larger.

These guys get a pass on the PFT (and oddly enough are the ones to administer it). My squadron in the AF had roughly an 85% pass rate for the the PFT. The folks failing it came in 3 flavors: Folks fresh from Tech School who had been half assing their PT during the 30 weeks between Basic and Operational, Women, and NCO's.
The first group tended to get their act together ASAP. The second group tend to persist because there's a lot of ways women cant skirt around PFT requirements and women tend to get on profile easier than men. But watching some Tech Sgt who is busting out of his uniform stay in the military year after year after sweaty lard filled year is happening because of the services' institutional bias against cutting folks at the top.
2012-12-11 06:02:10 AM  
1 vote:

log_jammin: Macular Degenerate: if even they can't figure out how to keep people from being fat, we have a serious farking problem.

nmemkha: This is the freaking army! Can't they assign them to a fat camp that runs them ragged and feeds them kale?

Hint: They don't want to do anything about it.

Under a mandate to reduce the force by tens of thousands in coming years, the Army has instructed commanders to make few exceptions when it comes to fitness

Hopefully they are using their brains as well as blanket mandates. Firing your best and brightest at non-physical jobs because of physical fitness is a waste of the tax dollars invested in them.
2012-12-11 05:44:36 AM  
1 vote:
Fat kids grow up to be fat adults, eating right, exercising plenty, and having good habits doesn't start at high school graduation, it starts at birth. We can't seriously expect to maintain a fighting force when we have a nation that gets despondent over a few month gap in twinkie production.

You want healthy kids, instead of treating McDonald's like a price, you pass right by that place and say "eww, we don't want that nasty stuff." Don't start the pattern of associating validation with food, especially not the crappiest "food" substitutes on the planet.
2012-12-11 05:18:42 AM  
1 vote:
As a multiple time PT failure myself I get the fury these folks have over not passing. And feeling discriminated against. My fellow failures and I used to joke that it didn't matter how good you were at your job if you couldn't run. But I got off my ass and did something about it. The American taxpayers pay for, and deserve, the best fighting force they can get.
2012-12-11 04:35:10 AM  
1 vote:
In before some precious snowflake complains that it's vicious unfair discrimination to fire soldiers for being fat.
2012-12-10 11:43:25 PM  
1 vote:
Americans are fat. We're also the best at the military. And snack foods and Freedom.

Somehow we manage to do all that while being fat. Maybe being fat isn't the problem. Maybe other countries just suck at stuff.
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