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2012-12-11 09:23:28 AM  
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Guntram Shatterhand: The article makes a good point: Perry panders to a subset that prefers their fiction full of the hope of the world they cannot have where traditional gender roles are not only reinforced but completely unexamined. Which makes the latent homoeroticism within even stranger as it could be read as a conflict: it's okay to be gay, but women who can stand on their own must be utterly destroyed because they lose their humanity. It's backing a system to preach homosexual acceptance while beating down women. It's a very unique robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's just a complex power struggle to get back to an artificial normalcy that really never existed.


I'm sure the "Angry Black Woman" blog has something to say about this.
2012-12-11 09:22:14 AM  
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I don't think anyone can say that Tyler Perry isn't a hard-working sonofabiatch. It's kind of interesting to see how far hard work can get you in the absence of talent. Which is interesting, because talent is often what prevents people from engaging in that kind of hard work; it's like they feel entitled to success simply because they're good enough, without considering the competition.
2012-12-11 09:09:35 AM  
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stoli n coke: verbaltoxin: stoli n coke: TheLopper: God damn, even Patton Oswalt hit Fark critical mass. Shiatballs.

Like Zach Galifinakis and Louis C.K. before him, Patton committed the Fark cardinal sin of taking jobs that actually paid well instead of just spending the next 30 years playing clubs attended only by 3 farkers and their imaginary girlfriends.

I have one issue with Patton Oswalt, as well as David Cross, who also does this a lot. If they make a mainstream, crappy movie for a big paycheck, then it's okay, but if anyone else does it, then they're horrible, awful people who should be skinned alive, and have their wounds covered in sand.

I could even stomach that hypocrisy to a point, except both Oswalt and Cross make these kind of jokes a lot, and nerdy elitism informs a lot of their acts. It's kind of the basis for them, really. So whenever either of them go off on how Larry the Cable guy is the cancer of comedy, I think of King of Queens or Alvin in the Chipmunks, and make a jack-off motion in the air.

Larry the Cable guy is a cancer of comedy because he isn't funny. He's a midwestern Seinfeld wannabe who couldn't hack it, so he slapped on the equivalent of redneck blackface.


Not my point. What I said was David Cross and Patton Oswalt are okay with taking crappy jobs for money, but then skewer Larry for doing Delta Farce. Of course Larry is going to do Delta Farce, that comedy is in his wheelhouse. But unlike Oswalt and Cross, Larry doesn't turn right around, head out to the comedy circuit and talk sh*t about everyone he worked with on Delta Farce while his audience howls in haughty laughter. Oswalt and Cross do, and in fact a huge part of their act is showing off how two-faced and egotistical they are.
2012-12-11 08:42:02 AM  
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This article pretty much sums up why I don't like Tyler Perry's movies.
http://clatl.com/atlanta/andisheh-nouraees-diary-of-a-confused-beige- m an/Content?oid=1272561

/am black, male, hetrosexual
//ain't in his demographic
///would probably be the antagonist in his movies
////admires is hustle though
2012-12-11 08:00:35 AM  
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LOL @ Patton Oswalt hate. I liked him in that rat movie, but then again I didn't have to bear his acting or listen to anything he wrote.

KrispyKritter: Tyler Perry? yesterday I'm Mom-sitting and the TV is just on in the background. Christmas specials aimed at a black audience. Holy crap, it was like hearing a blend of soap opera and COPS - and this was supposed to be a Christmas special. sure nuff, it was a Tyler Perry. I look forward to the day when there are so many black actors, producers, directors, writers, comedians etcetera that black audiences don't feel they have to show the love for black artists that suck. It's pretty obvious at this time that if you make it up on the stage and you're a brother or sister you're going to get mad props for making it onto the stage regardless of talent and thats just sad.


I agree with this. Tyler Perry is showing people that they can create their own entertainment outside of what Hollywood says that is allowable. That with just a little bit of money and a few flyers, it's possible to create art and have that art appeal to a wider audience. Since it's just him, his work is uneven and his musical stuff needs an arranger, but the kids coming after him is going to produce some amazing stuff.
2012-12-11 07:05:57 AM  
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TheLopper: God damn, even Patton Oswalt hit Fark critical mass. Shiatballs.


Like Zach Galifinakis and Louis C.K. before him, Patton committed the Fark cardinal sin of taking jobs that actually paid well instead of just spending the next 30 years playing clubs attended only by 3 farkers and their imaginary girlfriends.
2012-12-11 01:11:26 AM  
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Pro-tip white people your little snowflakes are ones keeping rappers and Tyler Perry rich. If you really think Jamal from the hood uses the credit card his parents gave him to load up his iPhone with legit Jay-Z tracks you're dead wrong.
/I know it's hard to imagine your college aged daughter out getting her guts pushed in by some big black buck while humming B.I.G on his friend cock.
\Ducks
2012-12-11 12:54:42 AM  
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Guntram Shatterhand: The article makes a good point: Perry panders to a subset that prefers their fiction full of the hope of the world they cannot have where traditional gender roles are not only reinforced but completely unexamined. Which makes the latent homoeroticism within even stranger as it could be read as a conflict: it's okay to be gay, but women who can stand on their own must be utterly destroyed because they lose their humanity. It's backing a system to preach homosexual acceptance while beating down women. It's a very unique robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's just a complex power struggle to get back to an artificial normalcy that really never existed.


WTF are you talking about. Tyler Perry movies and shows are nothing but family comidies. That's it that's all.
2012-12-10 10:45:55 PM  
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The allure of Tyler Perry is similar to the popularity of Christian Rock. It's popular, it's sold everywhere, but you've never met a person who listens to it.
2012-12-10 10:32:42 PM  
1 votes:
The article makes a good point: Perry panders to a subset that prefers their fiction full of the hope of the world they cannot have where traditional gender roles are not only reinforced but completely unexamined. Which makes the latent homoeroticism within even stranger as it could be read as a conflict: it's okay to be gay, but women who can stand on their own must be utterly destroyed because they lose their humanity. It's backing a system to preach homosexual acceptance while beating down women. It's a very unique robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's just a complex power struggle to get back to an artificial normalcy that really never existed.
2012-12-10 09:58:28 PM  
1 votes:

ExperianScaresCthulhu: don't front. you watched Ernest Goes To Camp, Ernest Saves Christmas and Ernest Scared Stupid every time it came on cable just like the rest of us.


I sure as hell did, posted that picture because Madea movies kind of follow that style.

ExperianScaresCthulhu: white boys can't fathom tyler perry.
the rest of the world can't fathom white boy fascination and obsession with homo shiat.


I agree, Jackass pretty much sums up that whole concept. I must ask though, what's with Hollywood always making movies with block comics dressed as women. I remember Chappelle talking about it.
2012-12-10 09:53:12 PM  
1 votes:
why do white boys like doing gay shiat to one another while a victim is passed out?

white boys can't fathom tyler perry.
the rest of the world can't fathom white boy fascination and obsession with homo shiat.
2012-12-10 09:49:05 PM  
1 votes:

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Yeah and Patton Oswalt was on 'King of Queens' and for whatever reason people think he's funny.

Nathin Rabin status: still a pale imitation of Elizabeth Wurtzel


Patton Oswalt was on an episode of Burn Notice. i love that show but i hate that little troll. i put up with him up to the point where i saw him on a comedy special where him, that doosh big bird looking arsehole and a tiny dyke comedian were walking along somewhere on the streets of NJ and they had to go there. being as he's a midget i guess he just had to go for the low hanging fruit.

Tyler Perry? yesterday I'm Mom-sitting and the TV is just on in the background. Christmas specials aimed at a black audience. Holy crap, it was like hearing a blend of soap opera and COPS - and this was supposed to be a Christmas special. sure nuff, it was a Tyler Perry. I look forward to the day when there are so many black actors, producers, directors, writers, comedians etcetera that black audiences don't feel they have to show the love for black artists that suck. It's pretty obvious at this time that if you make it up on the stage and you're a brother or sister you're going to get mad props for making it onto the stage regardless of talent and thats just sad.
2012-12-10 09:21:30 PM  
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and as to why there is a ton of mysogyny in there- he appeals to extremely christian, working class, southern black people. The idea of traditional conservative family systems built around strong men supported by subordinate women in drama's that end with a clear good beating a clear evil is exactly what they want to see.
2012-12-10 09:12:13 PM  
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Tyler Perry is the film and television equivalent of James Patterson, cranking out small, digestible chunks of fluff except that he has the advantage of a built-in audience that feels like its been ignored by mainstream Hollywood forever.

Trying to intellectually analyze Tyler Perry is like trying to critique James Patterson or Thomas Kinkade.
2012-12-10 08:51:46 PM  
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Yeah and Patton Oswalt was on 'King of Queens' and for whatever reason people think he's funny.

Nathin Rabin status: still a pale imitation of Elizabeth Wurtzel
 
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