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2012-12-10 11:31:12 PM
4 votes:

rocky_howard: Also, oh look, the Oatmeal guy is in YET ANOTHER feud. I want the Oatmeal defenders come over and say it's also the other guy's fault like with Carreon (who was another asshole too).


In both cases this guy seems to be 100% in the right, though. In the first case he was sued for complaining that someone was plagiarizing his work, in the second it looks like some random asshole journalist made up a bunch of lies about him to get more hits for an article.

rocky_howard: If everybody's having a problem with you, the common denominator is you, not them which means Oatmeal IS an asshole.


What the hell kind of retarded ass logic is this? it is entirely possible for one person to be attacked twice in their life by separate assholes without also being an asshole. Hell, if that's your cutoff for asshole-dom, pretty much every famous person throughout history is an asshole. 

Now, I haven't really been following any of this, so perhaps I'm missing something. What's this guy done to make you hate him so much?
2012-12-11 08:32:46 AM
3 votes:

czetie: What I learned from all this: acting offended over any non-literal use of the word "rape" is the latest way that the dull, witless clods who comprise most of the users of social media demonstrate how sensitive and thoughtful they really are.

In other words, it's this generation's Godwin.


The thing to remember is there exists a thing called a Social Justice Warrior(SJW). SJW are concern trolls. Nothing truly offends them because they dont have an honest response to anything. They are essentially borderline sociopaths who feign offense because they know that it will give them a response. Their primary goal is getting you to do what they want you to do. Their biggest method of trolling is rape. After that it's race. Thats followed closely by sex/gender issues. Any reference to such will bring their ire upon you... if you're their target. If you're cool with them you can say whatever you want.

People are learning though and now others employ the tactic of concern trolling because it's so effective.

I got a kick out of how him being a Republican(even though he's not) would make him an asshole who is exploiting tragedy for humor. I dont think anti-Republicans realize they make such a fallacy. As if being a Democrat makes all humor okay but being a Republican sequesters you to jokes that have to be cleared first.

So yea, in short the prevailing form of sophistry on the net is trolling. And what is Steuf's Fark I anyways?
2012-12-10 11:22:59 PM
3 votes:

rocky_howard:
If everybody's having a problem with you, the common denominator is you, not them which means Oatmeal IS an asshole.


Two people =/= everybody, sparky.
2012-12-10 11:19:53 PM
3 votes:

rocky_howard: Oh and I love how Oatmeal has to mention his donations every three sentences. It's like he makes the donations so he can brag about it when people attack him.

Guess what? Donating money doesn't exempt you from being a dickhead.

And bragging about it is distasteful.


What else do you expect him to do? The buzzfeed article was attacking him and attempting to paint him in a bad light using bad, or blatantly incorrect info.

The Oatmeal guy might be a dickhead, but in this case he's a more likeable dickhead than the original article's author.
2012-12-10 07:46:58 PM
3 votes:
I stopped reading the Oatmeal when his comics turned into tl;dr preach-fests about how serious he takes the internet.
2012-12-10 06:14:49 PM
3 votes:
Matthew, if you're reading this, good for you.

Ricky Jervais made a comment recently (forgive poor paraphrasing) about how nothing should be off-limits (rape, Holocaust) because whether or not something was offensive should be based on whether or not the joke was coming from a "good place." A lot of people (and an alot) agree.

The F5 thing was not an anti-woman or pro-rape gag.

The Palin baby card, on the other hand....

Fark that pudgy farkstick and BUZZFEED in the F5 key.
2012-12-10 06:10:05 PM
3 votes:
Looks like Jack Stuef is a bit sloppy in his research and biased in his opinion. In fact if I didn't know better I'd say that Jack Stuef is a clueless dickhead wanna-be with a chip on his tiny shoulder that spurs hate-page-hits and justifies his miserable existence exposing himself to the internet.
2012-12-12 12:02:59 PM
2 votes:
Re: bragging about donations
Um, when the attacking article is going to great lengths to paint the guy as someone that is just milking everything he can for every last dime he can get, calling him a sprawling enterprise, and playing up how much money the guy is making while insinuating that he's doing it through underhanded means, then it is not uncalled for to repeatedly point out that he gives most of the money he makes away.

It rather invalidates the whole "just in it for the money" when he doesn't actually, you know, KEEP THE MONEY.

I especially liked where the guy brought up the picture of him rolling around in the $200k he raised. I remember watching that case, he was getting sued for that amount by a troll. He raised the money and took the picture of him rolling around in it just to piss the guy off with a "You wanted this? This money that I'm just rolling around in? Well tough luck. I raised and now its going to help needy people instead of lining your filthy pockets. fark YOU!"
2012-12-11 07:12:55 AM
2 votes:
What I learned from all this: acting offended over any non-literal use of the word "rape" is the latest way that the dull, witless clods who comprise most of the users of social media demonstrate how sensitive and thoughtful they really are.

In other words, it's this generation's Godwin.
2012-12-11 05:56:13 AM
2 votes:
People are terrified that TheOatmeal has the mental capacity to deconstruct someones argument and put forth a point for point rebuttal.

Most trolls aren't capable of this. Hence the Oatmeal hate. Not only can he see through bullshiat, he can call people out on it. This terrifies trolls who exist solely to pretend to be more retarded then they are.
2012-12-11 01:50:22 AM
2 votes:

rocky_howard: TheHumanCannonball: What else do you expect him to do? The buzzfeed article was attacking him and attempting to paint him in a bad light using bad, or blatantly incorrect info.

The Oatmeal guy might be a dickhead, but in this case he's a more likeable dickhead than the original article's author.

He can defend himself without having to mention his donations, that's just bush league.

Again, donating money is not a shield you can use for your dickishness.


Kinda like how I have no idea whether or not you donate money to good causes, but I can still tell you're a dick?
2012-12-11 01:47:46 AM
2 votes:

rocky_howard: Jesus, I can't choose who I hate more The Oatmeal or BuzzFeed. Oatmeal is an unfunny prick with entitlement issues and BuzzFeed is a cancer on the internet making their idiotic "45 things" lists that are just random photos.


Well, the important thing is you've found a way to feel superior to both.
2012-12-11 12:21:13 AM
2 votes:
The notion that it's somehow bad to create material and choose subjects specifically to entertain and grow your audience does kind of explain Buzzfeed.
2012-12-11 12:03:03 AM
2 votes:

vwarb: I like how the Buzzfeed writer acts like it is some awful sin to write things that you think people will like, and then want payment for creating them. I am reminded of a huge rant that John Scalzi went on yesterday about artists being expected to undervalue their work as some sort of artistic integrity hazing.



I like how Matthew Inman buys into it. "I bought a house for my sister and donated to charity, so it's all right"!

No, Matthew, it's not all right because you bought a house for your sister and donated to charity. It's all right because THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MAKING MONEY SELLING ART!

His answer to that part should have been "Damn right I'm a millionaire. I'm rich, and you're not, because you suck and I don't".

For being a comedian, Inman's got a hell of a thin skin. He could have ripped Buzz Killington a new asshole without accepting his premise.
2012-12-10 11:34:29 PM
2 votes:

rocky_howard: He did the same in the Carreon case. Appealing to his donations.


Eh? That wasn't his money, that was fundraising conducted as a 'fark you' to Careon's attempt to hustle him for 20k to make a ridiculous defamation claim go away.
2012-12-10 11:25:30 PM
2 votes:

rocky_howard: Oh and I love how Oatmeal has to mention his donations every three sentences. It's like he makes the donations so he can brag about it when people attack him.

Guess what? Donating money doesn't exempt you from being a dickhead.

And bragging about it is distasteful.


Do you have other posts besides this one where he brags about donations? I don't read the Oatmeal, but he mentions on this particular thing that he doesn't mention it, and so it seems like now he's raging a little about it because he's defensive and trying to make a point. Which would make what you're saying more of the "somebody already decided they don't like the Oatmeal so anything you can find that support that are valid while anything that doesn't is irrelevant" camp, which was sort of the point of his entire rant.

The guy writing the red in the Oatmeal thing is a little aggro, sure, but he's an internet personality, not a saint or a politician. Judging solely by this thing (and the little exposure I've occasionally had to the Oatmeal) I'd be inclined to say the original "journalist" is a giant bag of shiat who typifies everything I hate in would-be writers, giving the rest of us a bad name.

/Also, Buzzfeed is the worst thing on the internet, really
2012-12-10 11:05:50 PM
2 votes:
Jesus, I can't choose who I hate more The Oatmeal or BuzzFeed. Oatmeal is an unfunny prick with entitlement issues and BuzzFeed is a cancer on the internet making their idiotic "45 things" lists that are just random photos.

Also, oh look, the Oatmeal guy is in YET ANOTHER feud. I want the Oatmeal defenders come over and say it's also the other guy's fault like with Carreon (who was another asshole too).

If everybody's having a problem with you, the common denominator is you, not them which means Oatmeal IS an asshole.

Now, slobber all you want about him....
2012-12-10 06:26:15 PM
2 votes:
You'd think, given recent history, that anybody going after Matt Inman like this would be more careful playing fast and loose with the facts.
2012-12-10 06:08:38 PM
2 votes:
You clowns are being played - the Oatmeal is priming the pageviews by setting up their own straw men and effectively knocking them down with the classic underdog play.

/ Comment ghost-written by Inman
2012-12-10 05:58:22 PM
2 votes:
Wow, Inman went straight for the jugular. Good for him.

I love the end where he shows the guy how to actually use the internet to dig up skeletons, and proceeds to blast it everywhere with the Palin kid's B-Day card.
2012-12-10 05:45:47 PM
2 votes:
Amateur writer, professional moron. In the time of the FREAKING INTERNET he couldn't even get the Oats' marital status correct? Where on earth did he come up with those supposed quotes about the non-existent daughters? Oh right--his arse.
2012-12-11 06:41:53 PM
1 votes:
The irony of somebody on Buzzfeed complaining that Mr. Oatthew Inmeal builds content around pandering to the lowest common denominator...

10 Song Lyrics That Will Give You The Strength To Leave A Bad Relationship

40 Reasons Honey Boo Boo Became A National Treasure In 2012

Imagine Seeing This As You're Driving On The Interstate

Top 12 Owls That Got Owned
2012-12-11 05:18:23 PM
1 votes:
I guess that's a little over the top. The picture without the words "rape victim" probably would have been fine.
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But I don't get anything about the other "criticisms". The buzzfeed article is written like a hit piece, except nothing they talk about is actually bad.
Why should I care that he's a republican (which he's not)?
Why should I care that the guy is married and has children (even though he isn't and doesn't)?
Why do I care that he's used naughty words on twitter?
Who cares if he has an editor?
Why should I care that he tries to reach a wide audience (which may or may not be true)?
Why is it bad that he makes a lot of money off of his website?
What sorts of evil SEO is he alleged to have done, besides making things that people like?
Since the oatmeal makes all its money from physical merchandise, what does SEO have to do with anything?
Who cares what his process for making popular comics is?
2012-12-11 01:55:17 PM
1 votes:

rocky_howard: Jesus, I can't choose who I hate more The Oatmeal or BuzzFeed. Oatmeal is an unfunny prick with entitlement issues and BuzzFeed is a cancer on the internet making their idiotic "45 things" lists that are just random photos.

Also, oh look, the Oatmeal guy is in YET ANOTHER feud. I want the Oatmeal defenders come over and say it's also the other guy's fault like with Carreon (who was another asshole too).

If everybody's having a problem with you, the common denominator is you, not them which means Oatmeal IS an asshole.

Now, slobber all you want about him....


I see a few people in this thread have a problem with you, so you must be an asshole.
2012-12-11 10:58:22 AM
1 votes:
after reading all that i want them both to diaf
2012-12-11 08:38:38 AM
1 votes:

Dinobot: moothemagiccow: i cant decide which is worse, xkcd or the oatmeal

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Content-wise I'd say xkcd's more obnoxious but this oatmeal kid wins the drama queen prize.
2012-12-11 03:46:53 AM
1 votes:

RussianPooper: Marcus Aurelius: Looks like Jack Stuef is a bit sloppy in his research and biased in his opinion. In fact if I didn't know better I'd say that Jack Stuef is a clueless dickhead wanna-be with a chip on his tiny shoulder that spurs hate-page-hits and justifies his miserable existence exposing himself to the internet.

So what's his Fark handle?


I dunno. He's bound to have one. Lemme just check the...

rocky_howard: Oh and I love how Oatmeal has to mention his donations every three sentences. It's like he makes the donations so he can brag about it when people attack him.

Guess what? Donating money doesn't exempt you from being a dickhead.

And bragging about it is distasteful.


...oh. Nevermind, found it.
2012-12-11 02:34:58 AM
1 votes:
Did he make a bad joke? Yes. Did he eventually apologize? Yes. Does he deserve a fabricated bulllshiat hit piece? No.

He may come off as a bit angry over a stupid BuzzFeed article, but if some jackass made shiat up about me that got tens of thousands of hits, you'd be damn sure I'd be pissed off and fight back.
2012-12-11 01:08:59 AM
1 votes:

rocky_howard: poisonedpawn78: Naw, there are just too many idiots on the internet like yourself who enjoy being annonymous and would never say or do the things they claim if it was linked to their drivers license.

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Look familiar?
2012-12-11 12:57:28 AM
1 votes:

rocky_howard: Jesus, I can't choose who I hate more The Oatmeal or BuzzFeed. Oatmeal is an unfunny prick with entitlement issues and BuzzFeed is a cancer on the internet making their idiotic "45 things" lists that are just random photos.

Also, oh look, the Oatmeal guy is in YET ANOTHER feud. I want the Oatmeal defenders come over and say it's also the other guy's fault like with Carreon (who was another asshole too).

If everybody's having a problem with you, the common denominator is you, not them which means Oatmeal IS an asshole.

Now, slobber all you want about him....


Naw, there are just too many idiots on the internet like yourself who enjoy being annonymous and would never say or do the things they claim if it was linked to their drivers license.
2012-12-11 12:04:01 AM
1 votes:
Unless Buzzfeed posts an apology I will no longer be clicking their links.

I don't think think Inman is any kind of saint, but that "amorphous blob threatening an anthropomorphized F5 key with rape" was worth any of the almost outrage it supposedly caused. Doubly so since he pulled it immediately when people took offense.
2012-12-11 12:03:11 AM
1 votes:
Why would someone who works on the internet, who presumably knows how things work, write a poorly (un?) researched hatchet job of someone with an audience of millions?

BuzzFeed contributors are often paid on a per-page view basis, meaning the more traffic that's delivered to the post the more money

Oh....

Stay tuned next week for my exhaustively researched expose about how Cory Doctorow, moot, Wil Wheaton and Drew Curtis get together every other weekend and kick puppies!
2012-12-10 11:50:00 PM
1 votes:
I like how the Buzzfeed writer acts like it is some awful sin to write things that you think people will like, and then want payment for creating them. I am reminded of a huge rant that John Scalzi went on yesterday about artists being expected to undervalue their work as some sort of artistic integrity hazing.
2012-12-10 11:42:30 PM
1 votes:

rocky_howard: Jesus, I can't choose who I hate more The Oatmeal or BuzzFeed.


Ditto. There's something about furious attempts to protect one's reputation that makes me contemptuous of a person. The Oatmeal also brings back bad memories of Digg.
2012-12-10 11:38:09 PM
1 votes:

rocky_howard: He did the same in the Carreon case. Appealing to his donations.


Wasn't that the time he actually made the donation, and now he's referencing it? That's hardly a long term pattern. I don't know what The Oatmeal did to you, but it must have been humiliatingly awful.
2012-12-10 11:24:19 PM
1 votes:

TheHumanCannonball: What else do you expect him to do? The buzzfeed article was attacking him and attempting to paint him in a bad light using bad, or blatantly incorrect info.

The Oatmeal guy might be a dickhead, but in this case he's a more likeable dickhead than the original article's author.


He can defend himself without having to mention his donations, that's just bush league.

Again, donating money is not a shield you can use for your dickishness.
2012-12-10 11:09:11 PM
1 votes:
Oh and I love how Oatmeal has to mention his donations every three sentences. It's like he makes the donations so he can brag about it when people attack him.

Guess what? Donating money doesn't exempt you from being a dickhead.

And bragging about it is distasteful.
2012-12-10 11:03:04 PM
1 votes:
I see nothing wrong with this. Idiot journalists deserve to be treated like idiots.
2012-12-10 10:52:14 PM
1 votes:
Putting aside the amazingly entertaining venom of this whole thing, Inman spent half his yearly income to buy his sister a house. That's pretty amazing. Good for him.
2012-12-10 10:10:29 PM
1 votes:
I think this writer was specifically paid to write exactly this. It looks like it's right up the alley of some crackpot lawyer. But who? Who would do this?
2012-12-10 09:50:03 PM
1 votes:
Blogger slapfight!
2012-12-10 05:40:26 PM
1 votes:
I expect another lawsuit or three out of this one, though it'll probably end up the same way. I was a little taken aback by his vehemence, but it's pretty much justified. D-bag writer should have done an interview before posting that crap.
 
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