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2012-12-11 08:54:55 AM

firefly212: rocky_howard: TheHumanCannonball: What else do you expect him to do? The buzzfeed article was attacking him and attempting to paint him in a bad light using bad, or blatantly incorrect info.

The Oatmeal guy might be a dickhead, but in this case he's a more likeable dickhead than the original article's author.

He can defend himself without having to mention his donations, that's just bush league.

Again, donating money is not a shield you can use for your dickishness.

Kinda like how I have no idea whether or not you donate money to good causes, but I can still tell you're a dick?



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2012-12-11 08:57:25 AM

Summercat: Uh.

I'm 100% on the Oatmeal guy here.

And I'm not really seeing anything that bad from his behavior, as internet people go.


Ditto. He makes comics. Some are funny, some aren't. Nobody bats a thousand...

Dunno why teh hate
 
2012-12-11 08:59:53 AM

Ceiling Moran: Ceiling Moran: quatchi: Stridar: So basically the Oatmeal is did some shiat wrong (as he was with Tesla/Edison debate)

Truly your reading comprehension is remarkable.

Why did I hear this in Inigo Montoya's voice?

Because I'm an idiot. I should have heard it in Wesley's voice. I fail at Princess Bride.


It's a cold morning, and you made me think of Buttercup sitting in a warm sunny field. For that, I thank you
 
2012-12-11 09:19:55 AM

scottydoesntknow: Wow, Inman went straight for the jugular. Good for him.

I love the end where he shows the guy how to actually use the internet to dig up skeletons, and proceeds to blast it everywhere with the Palin kid's B-Day card.


That was farking impressive.

Instant karma's gonna get you...
 
2012-12-11 09:49:42 AM

DrowningLessons: /Also, Buzzfeed is the worst thing on the internet, really


Well, among the worst things. It doesn't kill quite as many brain cells as, say, TruTV or BleacherReport slideshows.
 
2012-12-11 10:02:25 AM

rocky_howard: Oh and I love how Oatmeal has to mention his donations every three sentences. It's like he makes the donations so he can brag about it when people attack him.

Guess what? Donating money doesn't exempt you from being a dickhead.

And bragging about it is distasteful.


I don't remember him bragging about his donations from his own personal finances until now.
 
2012-12-11 10:07:35 AM

desertgeek: 1) Anyone who takes anything written on Buzzfeed seriously needs to be banned from procreating at this point. That site is a waste of webspace.


True

2) I like The Oatmeal's comics (Inman's comic about developing content for his site is a good read), but he's developing an "holier-than-thou" shtick that's become annoying with these blog posts.

True

3) That said, he's right to call the douchebag Buzzfeed writer out for shoddy yellow "journalism", especially since the douchebag writer did something that was worse (insulting a kid with a serious illness and in the process, commit the cardinal sin of writing: plagiarism).

True

4) The rape joke wasn't offensive as much as it wasn't really that funny, to me at least.

He HAD to have known that the rape joke would be controversial. He's not a stupid guy. I wasn't offended. My only thought was "Wow, he just opened a can of worms."
 
2012-12-11 10:32:07 AM
I think perhaps that Inman's characterization of Stuef as a bitter, failed humorist is probably dead on. The downs-syndrone baby joke wasn't the first time Stuef has faced fire for tasteless jokes. Google reveals he was apparently involved with a racist brouhaha over a sardonic article about a campus "cross lighting" published in the Georgetown heckler.

So it seems Stuef has a track record of making extremely tasteless jokes and facing enormous public and professional backlash. I personally could care less - my own sense of humor is as black, vile, and tasteless as they come - but I found this additional piece of info pretty interesting.

Like I said, it supports Inman's characterization of Stuef as a bitter, failed humorist.
 
2012-12-11 10:58:22 AM
after reading all that i want them both to diaf
 
2012-12-11 11:01:05 AM

Mattyb710: The Voice of Doom: [i.imgur.com image 714x201]

"Several times I've done charitable tings. Do they call me Inman the charitable for it?"
"No, Inman, they don't!"
"But you fark ONE sheep..."

If a man builds a million bridges and sucks one dick, people won't remember him as a bridge builder.


poor monica lewinsky =(
 
2012-12-11 11:18:20 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: quatchi: Ceiling Moran: Ceiling Moran: quatchi: Stridar: So basically the Oatmeal is did some shiat wrong (as he was with Tesla/Edison debate)

Truly your reading comprehension is remarkable.

Why did I hear this in Inigo Montoya's voice?

Because I'm an idiot. I should have heard it in Wesley's voice. I fail at Princess Bride.

I wasn't gonna mention it.

/Also I shoulda used "dizzying" there.
//None of us are perfect.

truly he has a dizzying intellect.


Truly, I'm just dizzy.
 
2012-12-11 11:22:40 AM

moothemagiccow: i cant decide which is worse, xkcd or the oatmeal


Definitely The Oatmeal. I don't find it funny at all. Interestingly, I did find Inman's response to the Buzzfeed piece to be quite humorous...
 
2012-12-11 11:34:08 AM
I like how people on Fark are arguing that it's wrong to make fun of the Palin baby, because that never happens here.
 
2012-12-11 11:41:21 AM

utsagrad123: I like how people on Fark are arguing that it's wrong to make fun of the Palin baby, because that never happens here.


The difference is we are not trying to hide the fact we are assholes, and it's also not our job to make jokes.
 
2012-12-11 11:44:52 AM
So is this the point where the internet figures out Inman is the worst kind of person, or does he get defended again because he is funny?
 
2012-12-11 11:50:15 AM

fluffy2097: utsagrad123: I like how people on Fark are arguing that it's wrong to make fun of the Palin baby, because that never happens here.

The difference is we are not trying to hide the fact we are assholes, and it's also not our job to make jokes.


I don't think Inman has ever tried to hide the fact he's an asshole either.
 
2012-12-11 11:58:11 AM

UGrabMyDrumstick: Putting aside the amazingly entertaining venom of this whole thing, Inman spent half his yearly income to buy his sister a house. That's pretty amazing. Good for him.


Except that He is almost certainly lying. If his yearly income was 500,000, he would not have $200,000 in a chequing account.
 
2012-12-11 12:33:43 PM
I'm really glad that he went balls out and basically heel turned. It wouldn't matter how many times he apologized about the rape joke, the people that are pissed off at him because of it wouldn't change their mind no matter what. Embrace being an asshole while still doing your thing. He's a comedian who wants to help people, he just wouldn't be able to help those people. Why bother to appease those that won't be pleased?

/I'm sure that made me sounded like an evil dick
 
2012-12-11 12:50:02 PM

amoral: UGrabMyDrumstick: Putting aside the amazingly entertaining venom of this whole thing, Inman spent half his yearly income to buy his sister a house. That's pretty amazing. Good for him.

Except that He is almost certainly lying. If his yearly income was 500,000, he would not have $200,000 in a chequing account.


LOL WUT?

/How does savings work?
 
2012-12-11 12:59:59 PM

quatchi: Ceiling Moran: Ceiling Moran: quatchi: Stridar: So basically the Oatmeal is did some shiat wrong (as he was with Tesla/Edison debate)

Truly your reading comprehension is remarkable.

Why did I hear this in Inigo Montoya's voice?

Because I'm an idiot. I should have heard it in Wesley's voice. I fail at Princess Bride.

I wasn't gonna mention it.

/Also I shoulda used "dizzying" there.
//None of us are perfect.


None of us IS perfect

;)
 
2012-12-11 01:33:48 PM

amoral: Except that He is almost certainly lying. If his yearly income was 500,000, he would not have $200,000 in a chequing account.


Explain how.
 
2012-12-11 01:55:17 PM

rocky_howard: Jesus, I can't choose who I hate more The Oatmeal or BuzzFeed. Oatmeal is an unfunny prick with entitlement issues and BuzzFeed is a cancer on the internet making their idiotic "45 things" lists that are just random photos.

Also, oh look, the Oatmeal guy is in YET ANOTHER feud. I want the Oatmeal defenders come over and say it's also the other guy's fault like with Carreon (who was another asshole too).

If everybody's having a problem with you, the common denominator is you, not them which means Oatmeal IS an asshole.

Now, slobber all you want about him....


I see a few people in this thread have a problem with you, so you must be an asshole.
 
2012-12-11 02:11:12 PM
i would say that the author of the oatmeal would be best served to let stuff like this roll off his back... until i got to the part where the buzzfeed author made up that whole section about him having children, and telling them that barack obama doesn't love his kids. To me, that would cross a line that would really require a response.
 
2012-12-11 02:40:55 PM

scottydoesntknow: amoral: UGrabMyDrumstick: Putting aside the amazingly entertaining venom of this whole thing, Inman spent half his yearly income to buy his sister a house. That's pretty amazing. Good for him.

Except that He is almost certainly lying. If his yearly income was 500,000, he would not have $200,000 in a chequing account.

LOL WUT?

/How does savings work?


You don't keep the bulk of your savings in a checking account, moron. Unless you live paycheck to paycheck.
 
2012-12-11 02:56:15 PM

rocky_howard: poisonedpawn78: Naw, there are just too many idiots on the internet like yourself who enjoy being annonymous and would never say or do the things they claim if it was linked to their drivers license.

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I was gonna make a cheeky joke about calling a chess nerd a badass, but it plays to stereotypes more than it meshes with reality.
 
2012-12-11 03:00:55 PM

amoral: scottydoesntknow: amoral: UGrabMyDrumstick: Putting aside the amazingly entertaining venom of this whole thing, Inman spent half his yearly income to buy his sister a house. That's pretty amazing. Good for him.

Except that He is almost certainly lying. If his yearly income was 500,000, he would not have $200,000 in a chequing account.

LOL WUT?

/How does savings work?

You don't keep the bulk of your savings in a checking account, moron. Unless you live paycheck to paycheck.


Well now you're just nitpicking about wording. I think it was assumed that your comment "he would not have $200,000 in a chequing account" basically meant he would not have that cash available to buy a house with, not specifically what type of check/savings/investment account it would reside in.
So why exactly couldn't he use part of the money he made to buy a house?
I guess some people with that sort of income would tie it up in long term investments that they shouldn't/couldn't touch, but maybe helping his sister was a dream of his, and once big paychecks started showing up, he was setting aside enough money to outright buy a house for her, rather than buying 5 or 10 year bonds?
 
2012-12-11 03:14:24 PM

Smoky Dragon Dish: rocky_howard: Oh and I love how Oatmeal has to mention his donations every three sentences. It's like he makes the donations so he can brag about it when people attack him.

Guess what? Donating money doesn't exempt you from being a dickhead.

And bragging about it is distasteful.

I don't remember him bragging about his donations from his own personal finances until now.


I wouldn't exactly call this bragging either.
 
2012-12-11 03:14:35 PM

piercedgeek: amoral: scottydoesntknow: amoral: UGrabMyDrumstick: Putting aside the amazingly entertaining venom of this whole thing, Inman spent half his yearly income to buy his sister a house. That's pretty amazing. Good for him.

Except that He is almost certainly lying. If his yearly income was 500,000, he would not have $200,000 in a chequing account.

LOL WUT?

/How does savings work?

You don't keep the bulk of your savings in a checking account, moron. Unless you live paycheck to paycheck.

Well now you're just nitpicking about wording. I think it was assumed that your comment "he would not have $200,000 in a chequing account" basically meant he would not have that cash available to buy a house with, not specifically what type of check/savings/investment account it would reside in.
So why exactly couldn't he use part of the money he made to buy a house?
I guess some people with that sort of income would tie it up in long term investments that they shouldn't/couldn't touch, but maybe helping his sister was a dream of his, and once big paychecks started showing up, he was setting aside enough money to outright buy a house for her, rather than buying 5 or 10 year bonds?


I'm refering to an incident where he went to the bank, withdrew 200,000 from his account, took a picture of it, and redeposited it.
 
2012-12-11 03:20:57 PM

amoral: You don't keep the bulk of your savings in a checking account, moron.


This is up there with claiming he's a liar because he says he 'paid cash' for his sister's house when he probably didn't fork over actual bills.

/'checking account' appears nowhere in Inman's response
 
2012-12-11 03:22:31 PM

amoral: I'm refering to an incident where he went to the bank, withdrew 200,000 from his account, took a picture of it, and redeposited it.


So.. That didn't happen? Or it was fake money?

I can't work out how that picture means he was lying about paying for his sister's house.
 
2012-12-11 03:24:57 PM
Hmm, my oatmeal seems a bit dryer than normal this morning
 
2012-12-11 03:38:07 PM

costermonger: amoral: I'm refering to an incident where he went to the bank, withdrew 200,000 from his account, took a picture of it, and redeposited it.

So.. That didn't happen? Or it was fake money?

I can't work out how that picture means he was lying about paying for his sister's house.


The problem is you are not literate. I'm saying he makes a lot more than 500,000 a year. I never claimed he did not pay for his sister's house.
 
2012-12-11 03:41:17 PM

amoral: I'm refering to an incident where he went to the bank, withdrew 200,000 from his account, took a picture of it, and redeposited it.


Ah, I think I follow you now, if he already paid $250,000 for a house, he wouldn't have an extra $200,000 in cash sitting around in addition to that, cause if I follow the story, the 200k in donations he raised, was not the 200k in the photo, but actually his money.
But I'm pretty sure this all didn't happen in the same week, maybe not even the same year, $500,000 income was for 2012 alone, likely made above $0 in the years leading up to it
 
2012-12-11 03:44:31 PM

amoral: scottydoesntknow: amoral: UGrabMyDrumstick: Putting aside the amazingly entertaining venom of this whole thing, Inman spent half his yearly income to buy his sister a house. That's pretty amazing. Good for him.

Except that He is almost certainly lying. If his yearly income was 500,000, he would not have $200,000 in a chequing account.

LOL WUT?

/How does savings work?

You don't keep the bulk of your savings in a checking account, moron. Unless you live paycheck to paycheck.


Oh my god you really are that dumb.

A) The year he bought the house for his sister (2010, going by the "Year after starting The Oatmeal" line) is NOT the same year he withdrew the $200,000 for the photo op (2012).

B) Even if it did occur in the same year, he would have $250,000 remaining after purchasing the house, meaning he could withdraw $200,000, and still have $50,000 left in the bank.

C) Stop switching between 'chequing' and 'checking'. I understand you're Canadian, but pick a side.
 
2012-12-11 03:52:26 PM

scottydoesntknow:
C) Stop switching between 'chequing' and 'checking'. I understand you're Canadian, but pick a side.


Maybe they have different meanings in Canuckistan and he's secretly making fun of you, I will ask one of my Maplemen friends and report back.
 
2012-12-11 04:03:20 PM

amoral: The problem is you are not literate.


Nah, I know what all the words mean, and even what they mean in the order you used them. The problem is that you expected people to follow your dubious assumption.

I'm saying he makes a lot more than 500,000 a year.

So all the money in one's bank account has to come from that year's income? This is news to me. Before I bought my house, I had about 60% of my annual income in the bank - saved over multiple years, mind you - and very briefly, it was in a checking account. Apparently, I've violated some kind of rule here.
 
2012-12-11 04:08:38 PM
So all the money in one's bank account has to come from that year's income? This is news to me. Before I bought my house, I had about 60% of my annual income in the bank - saved over multiple years, mind you - and very briefly, it was in a checking account. Apparently, I've violated some kind of rule here.

I think you are lying too. Why would you put the money for your house into a chequing account? Did you buy the house without a mortgage and needed to cut a check for X-hundred grand?
 
2012-12-11 04:25:09 PM

amoral: I think you are lying too. Why would you put the money for your house into a chequing account? Did you buy the house without a mortgage and needed to cut a check for X-hundred grand?


Need to get a bank draft for $X for the down payment, then $X has to be in one place.
 
2012-12-11 05:18:23 PM
I guess that's a little over the top. The picture without the words "rape victim" probably would have been fine.
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But I don't get anything about the other "criticisms". The buzzfeed article is written like a hit piece, except nothing they talk about is actually bad.
Why should I care that he's a republican (which he's not)?
Why should I care that the guy is married and has children (even though he isn't and doesn't)?
Why do I care that he's used naughty words on twitter?
Who cares if he has an editor?
Why should I care that he tries to reach a wide audience (which may or may not be true)?
Why is it bad that he makes a lot of money off of his website?
What sorts of evil SEO is he alleged to have done, besides making things that people like?
Since the oatmeal makes all its money from physical merchandise, what does SEO have to do with anything?
Who cares what his process for making popular comics is?
 
2012-12-11 06:41:53 PM
The irony of somebody on Buzzfeed complaining that Mr. Oatthew Inmeal builds content around pandering to the lowest common denominator...

10 Song Lyrics That Will Give You The Strength To Leave A Bad Relationship

40 Reasons Honey Boo Boo Became A National Treasure In 2012

Imagine Seeing This As You're Driving On The Interstate

Top 12 Owls That Got Owned
 
2012-12-11 06:51:05 PM

scottydoesntknow: Wow, Inman went straight for the jugular. Good for him.

I love the end where he shows the guy how to actually use the internet to dig up skeletons, and proceeds to blast it everywhere with the Palin kid's B-Day card.


That response warmed my dark little heart. Calling morons out should be one of the requirements for canonization.
 
2012-12-12 11:21:08 AM

piercedgeek: Well now you're just nitpicking about wording. I think it was assumed that your comment "he would not have $200,000 in a chequing account" basically meant he would not have that cash available to buy a house with, not specifically what type of check/savings/investment account it would reside in.
So why exactly couldn't he use part of the money he made to buy a house?
I guess some people with that sort of income would tie it up in long term investments that they shouldn't/couldn't touch, but maybe helping his sister was a dream of his, and once big paychecks started showing up, he was setting aside enough money to outright buy a house for her, rather than buying 5 or 10 year bonds?


Also, I'm sort of betting he's not counting the money he raised from and for the Carreon incident as income.
 
2012-12-12 12:02:59 PM
Re: bragging about donations
Um, when the attacking article is going to great lengths to paint the guy as someone that is just milking everything he can for every last dime he can get, calling him a sprawling enterprise, and playing up how much money the guy is making while insinuating that he's doing it through underhanded means, then it is not uncalled for to repeatedly point out that he gives most of the money he makes away.

It rather invalidates the whole "just in it for the money" when he doesn't actually, you know, KEEP THE MONEY.

I especially liked where the guy brought up the picture of him rolling around in the $200k he raised. I remember watching that case, he was getting sued for that amount by a troll. He raised the money and took the picture of him rolling around in it just to piss the guy off with a "You wanted this? This money that I'm just rolling around in? Well tough luck. I raised and now its going to help needy people instead of lining your filthy pockets. fark YOU!"
 
2012-12-12 01:28:53 PM

Mrbogey: czetie: What I learned from all this: acting offended over any non-literal use of the word "rape" is the latest way that the dull, witless clods who comprise most of the users of social media demonstrate how sensitive and thoughtful they really are.

In other words, it's this generation's Godwin.

The thing to remember is there exists a thing called a Social Justice Warrior(SJW). SJW are concern trolls. Nothing truly offends them because they dont have an honest response to anything. They are essentially borderline sociopaths who feign offense because they know that it will give them a response. Their primary goal is getting you to do what they want you to do. Their biggest method of trolling is rape. After that it's race. Thats followed closely by sex/gender issues. Any reference to such will bring their ire upon you... if you're their target. If you're cool with them you can say whatever you want.

People are learning though and now others employ the tactic of concern trolling because it's so effective.

I got a kick out of how him being a Republican(even though he's not) would make him an asshole who is exploiting tragedy for humor. I dont think anti-Republicans realize they make such a fallacy. As if being a Democrat makes all humor okay but being a Republican sequesters you to jokes that have to be cleared first.

So yea, in short the prevailing form of sophistry on the net is trolling. And what is Steuf's Fark I anyways?


You just explained someone who's been in my WoW guild for years and bothered the hell out of most of us during that time. He finally crossed the line recently and was influenced to 'part ways' with us, but I'm sure he'll be back. I'm going to keep your explanation for that time.
 
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