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2012-12-10 05:40:26 PM
I expect another lawsuit or three out of this one, though it'll probably end up the same way. I was a little taken aback by his vehemence, but it's pretty much justified. D-bag writer should have done an interview before posting that crap.
 
2012-12-10 05:45:47 PM
Amateur writer, professional moron. In the time of the FREAKING INTERNET he couldn't even get the Oats' marital status correct? Where on earth did he come up with those supposed quotes about the non-existent daughters? Oh right--his arse.
 
2012-12-10 05:58:22 PM
Wow, Inman went straight for the jugular. Good for him.

I love the end where he shows the guy how to actually use the internet to dig up skeletons, and proceeds to blast it everywhere with the Palin kid's B-Day card.
 
2012-12-10 06:08:38 PM
You clowns are being played - the Oatmeal is priming the pageviews by setting up their own straw men and effectively knocking them down with the classic underdog play.

/ Comment ghost-written by Inman
 
2012-12-10 06:10:05 PM
Looks like Jack Stuef is a bit sloppy in his research and biased in his opinion. In fact if I didn't know better I'd say that Jack Stuef is a clueless dickhead wanna-be with a chip on his tiny shoulder that spurs hate-page-hits and justifies his miserable existence exposing himself to the internet.
 
2012-12-10 06:10:52 PM

Elzar: You clowns are being played - the Oatmeal is priming the pageviews by setting up their own straw men and effectively knocking them down with the classic underdog play.

/ Comment ghost-written by Inman


If so, that's meta-funny. You so seldom get meta-funny on the web.
 
2012-12-10 06:14:49 PM
Matthew, if you're reading this, good for you.

Ricky Jervais made a comment recently (forgive poor paraphrasing) about how nothing should be off-limits (rape, Holocaust) because whether or not something was offensive should be based on whether or not the joke was coming from a "good place." A lot of people (and an alot) agree.

The F5 thing was not an anti-woman or pro-rape gag.

The Palin baby card, on the other hand....

Fark that pudgy farkstick and BUZZFEED in the F5 key.
 
2012-12-10 06:26:15 PM
You'd think, given recent history, that anybody going after Matt Inman like this would be more careful playing fast and loose with the facts.
 
2012-12-10 06:34:07 PM
Time to move back into mom's basement. Jaysus what an idiot.
 
2012-12-10 06:35:01 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Looks like Jack Stuef is a bit sloppy in his research and biased in his opinion. In fact if I didn't know better I'd say that Jack Stuef is a clueless dickhead wanna-be with a chip on his tiny shoulder that spurs hate-page-hits and justifies his miserable existence exposing himself to the internet.


So what's his Fark handle?
 
2012-12-10 07:46:58 PM
I stopped reading the Oatmeal when his comics turned into tl;dr preach-fests about how serious he takes the internet.
 
2012-12-10 08:16:32 PM

ladyfortuna: I expect another lawsuit or three out of this one, though it'll probably end up the same way. I was a little taken aback by his vehemence, but it's pretty much justified. D-bag writer should have done an interview before posting that crap.


That the Internet has finally gotten tired of him is encouraging. Suing people for getting mad about a rape joke won't go well.
 
2012-12-10 09:02:15 PM
Jack Stuef and Dean Chambers should go bowling sometime.
 
2012-12-10 09:50:03 PM
Blogger slapfight!
 
2012-12-10 10:10:29 PM
I think this writer was specifically paid to write exactly this. It looks like it's right up the alley of some crackpot lawyer. But who? Who would do this?
 
2012-12-10 10:52:14 PM
Putting aside the amazingly entertaining venom of this whole thing, Inman spent half his yearly income to buy his sister a house. That's pretty amazing. Good for him.
 
2012-12-10 11:01:36 PM

Makh: I think this writer was specifically paid to write exactly this. It looks like it's right up the alley of some crackpot lawyer. But who? Who would do this?


Too coherent.
 
2012-12-10 11:01:50 PM
All I know is a theoretically discredited 2007 book by a Dutch health nut claims oatmeal causes cancer. So thats fact enough for me!
 
2012-12-10 11:03:04 PM
I see nothing wrong with this. Idiot journalists deserve to be treated like idiots.
 
2012-12-10 11:05:50 PM
Jesus, I can't choose who I hate more The Oatmeal or BuzzFeed. Oatmeal is an unfunny prick with entitlement issues and BuzzFeed is a cancer on the internet making their idiotic "45 things" lists that are just random photos.

Also, oh look, the Oatmeal guy is in YET ANOTHER feud. I want the Oatmeal defenders come over and say it's also the other guy's fault like with Carreon (who was another asshole too).

If everybody's having a problem with you, the common denominator is you, not them which means Oatmeal IS an asshole.

Now, slobber all you want about him....
 
2012-12-10 11:09:11 PM
Oh and I love how Oatmeal has to mention his donations every three sentences. It's like he makes the donations so he can brag about it when people attack him.

Guess what? Donating money doesn't exempt you from being a dickhead.

And bragging about it is distasteful.
 
2012-12-10 11:19:53 PM

rocky_howard: Oh and I love how Oatmeal has to mention his donations every three sentences. It's like he makes the donations so he can brag about it when people attack him.

Guess what? Donating money doesn't exempt you from being a dickhead.

And bragging about it is distasteful.


What else do you expect him to do? The buzzfeed article was attacking him and attempting to paint him in a bad light using bad, or blatantly incorrect info.

The Oatmeal guy might be a dickhead, but in this case he's a more likeable dickhead than the original article's author.
 
2012-12-10 11:20:47 PM

GAT_00: ladyfortuna: I expect another lawsuit or three out of this one, though it'll probably end up the same way. I was a little taken aback by his vehemence, but it's pretty much justified. D-bag writer should have done an interview before posting that crap.

That the Internet has finally gotten tired of him is encouraging. Suing people for getting mad about a rape joke won't go well.


I think you misinterpreted what I said there...
 
2012-12-10 11:22:59 PM

rocky_howard:
If everybody's having a problem with you, the common denominator is you, not them which means Oatmeal IS an asshole.


Two people =/= everybody, sparky.
 
2012-12-10 11:24:19 PM

TheHumanCannonball: What else do you expect him to do? The buzzfeed article was attacking him and attempting to paint him in a bad light using bad, or blatantly incorrect info.

The Oatmeal guy might be a dickhead, but in this case he's a more likeable dickhead than the original article's author.


He can defend himself without having to mention his donations, that's just bush league.

Again, donating money is not a shield you can use for your dickishness.
 
2012-12-10 11:25:30 PM

rocky_howard: Oh and I love how Oatmeal has to mention his donations every three sentences. It's like he makes the donations so he can brag about it when people attack him.

Guess what? Donating money doesn't exempt you from being a dickhead.

And bragging about it is distasteful.


Do you have other posts besides this one where he brags about donations? I don't read the Oatmeal, but he mentions on this particular thing that he doesn't mention it, and so it seems like now he's raging a little about it because he's defensive and trying to make a point. Which would make what you're saying more of the "somebody already decided they don't like the Oatmeal so anything you can find that support that are valid while anything that doesn't is irrelevant" camp, which was sort of the point of his entire rant.

The guy writing the red in the Oatmeal thing is a little aggro, sure, but he's an internet personality, not a saint or a politician. Judging solely by this thing (and the little exposure I've occasionally had to the Oatmeal) I'd be inclined to say the original "journalist" is a giant bag of shiat who typifies everything I hate in would-be writers, giving the rest of us a bad name.

/Also, Buzzfeed is the worst thing on the internet, really
 
2012-12-10 11:27:49 PM

DrowningLessons: Do you have other posts besides this one where he brags about donations? I don't read the Oatmeal, but he mentions on this particular thing that he doesn't mention it, and so it seems like now he's raging a little about it because he's defensive and trying to make a point. Which would make what you're saying more of the "somebody already decided they don't like the Oatmeal so anything you can find that support that are valid while anything that doesn't is irrelevant" camp, which was sort of the point of his entire rant.

The guy writing the red in the Oatmeal thing is a little aggro, sure, but he's an internet personality, not a saint or a politician. Judging solely by this thing (and the little exposure I've occasionally had to the Oatmeal) I'd be inclined to say the original "journalist" is a giant bag of shiat who typifies everything I hate in would-be writers, giving the rest of us a bad name.

/Also, Buzzfeed is the worst thing on the internet, really


He did the same in the Carreon case. Appealing to his donations.

And hey, in case you didn't read my previous post, I already said BuzzFeed is the scum of the Internet and the writer is an asshole too, so no need to tell me what I've already said :P
 
2012-12-10 11:28:31 PM
You know who else donated money?

Yeah, Gaddaffi.
 
2012-12-10 11:31:12 PM

rocky_howard: Also, oh look, the Oatmeal guy is in YET ANOTHER feud. I want the Oatmeal defenders come over and say it's also the other guy's fault like with Carreon (who was another asshole too).


In both cases this guy seems to be 100% in the right, though. In the first case he was sued for complaining that someone was plagiarizing his work, in the second it looks like some random asshole journalist made up a bunch of lies about him to get more hits for an article.

rocky_howard: If everybody's having a problem with you, the common denominator is you, not them which means Oatmeal IS an asshole.


What the hell kind of retarded ass logic is this? it is entirely possible for one person to be attacked twice in their life by separate assholes without also being an asshole. Hell, if that's your cutoff for asshole-dom, pretty much every famous person throughout history is an asshole. 

Now, I haven't really been following any of this, so perhaps I'm missing something. What's this guy done to make you hate him so much?
 
2012-12-10 11:31:50 PM

rocky_howard: He did the same in the Carreon case. Appealing to his donations.


Okay, that's why I was asking. Didn't know if you had a legit point or were Fark-reacting, if you know what I mean. If he brings it up a lot, yeah, that's kinda douchey.

Even with that, I think it's more coming from a place of sincerity than anything else. Like I said he does come off as a little aggro, but I dunno, saying you spent half of your big pile of money on your sister when you're being accused of being a money grubber is kinda legit.

Kinda. I'm also with you, in spirit at least.

rocky_howard: no need to tell me what I've already said :P


That part was just reaffirming my position, not really saying it to you directly, hence the slashies. I just really farking hate Buzzfeed. :p

/any excuse to say it again
//fark Buzzfeed
 
2012-12-10 11:31:51 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Elzar: You clowns are being played - the Oatmeal is priming the pageviews by setting up their own straw men and effectively knocking them down with the classic underdog play.

/ Comment ghost-written by Inman

If so, that's meta-funny. You so seldom get meta-funny on the web.


Trolling is the purest kind of meta-humor, if you think about it.
 
2012-12-10 11:34:29 PM

rocky_howard: He did the same in the Carreon case. Appealing to his donations.


Eh? That wasn't his money, that was fundraising conducted as a 'fark you' to Careon's attempt to hustle him for 20k to make a ridiculous defamation claim go away.
 
2012-12-10 11:35:08 PM

Gunther: rocky_howard: Also, oh look, the Oatmeal guy is in YET ANOTHER feud. I want the Oatmeal defenders come over and say it's also the other guy's fault like with Carreon (who was another asshole too).

In both cases this guy seems to be 100% in the right, though.


Yeah, Gunther makes a pretty good point. Getting into feuds sucks, but he didn't really start either one.

Gunther: rocky_howard: If everybody's having a problem with you, the common denominator is you, not them which means Oatmeal IS an asshole.

What the hell kind of retarded ass logic is this?


It's not retarded logic actually, it's that the initial premise is faulty. If everyone thought the Oatmeal is an asshole, it would likely be true. It's the old axiom: "If a teacher conducts a test and the entire class fails, the teacher is to blame."

The problem here is that the only two people I've seen so far that really dislike the Oatmeal is the clownshoe blogger that started this, and Rocky_howard himself. I didn't come away thinking he was that big an asshole (just somebody that could construct these kinds of posts without so much ... font-based emotion?), so you know ...

It's not everybody.
 
2012-12-10 11:36:03 PM
1) Anyone who takes anything written on Buzzfeed seriously needs to be banned from procreating at this point. That site is a waste of webspace.

2) I like The Oatmeal's comics (Inman's comic about developing content for his site is a good read), but he's developing an "holier-than-thou" shtick that's become annoying with these blog posts.

3) That said, he's right to call the douchebag Buzzfeed writer out for shoddy yellow "journalism", especially since the douchebag writer did something that was worse (insulting a kid with a serious illness and in the process, commit the cardinal sin of writing: plagiarism).

4) The rape joke wasn't offensive as much as it wasn't really that funny, to me at least.
 
2012-12-10 11:38:09 PM

rocky_howard: He did the same in the Carreon case. Appealing to his donations.


Wasn't that the time he actually made the donation, and now he's referencing it? That's hardly a long term pattern. I don't know what The Oatmeal did to you, but it must have been humiliatingly awful.
 
2012-12-10 11:38:52 PM
I'm sure Fark will keep giving links to Buzzfeed anyway.
 
2012-12-10 11:39:11 PM
Unlike this BuzzFeed article, which has NOTHING to do with getting lots of page views

ohsnap.jpg
 
2012-12-10 11:42:00 PM
Dude, Stuef writes for The Onion - with the amount of BS in that article, that piece fits in there perfectly!
 
2012-12-10 11:42:08 PM
Jack Stuef can die in a fire, but if If Matthew Inman apologized for that rape joke and didn't tell the people making complaints to fark off, then fark Matthew Inman.
 
2012-12-10 11:42:30 PM

rocky_howard: Jesus, I can't choose who I hate more The Oatmeal or BuzzFeed.


Ditto. There's something about furious attempts to protect one's reputation that makes me contemptuous of a person. The Oatmeal also brings back bad memories of Digg.
 
2012-12-10 11:48:17 PM
I'm amazed at the people that are mad at Inman for his response to a blatantly false hit piece. Is he supposed to just sit and accept it cause you don't like the comics?

Also, people seem to be giving him a hard time for constantly being in a fued after two events. Yet, looking at it, I'm not exactly sure how he is to blame at all.
 
2012-12-10 11:48:52 PM
i cant decide which is worse, xkcd or the oatmeal
 
2012-12-10 11:49:32 PM
Why do posts about this guy get so much farkspace? Nothing against him, Im sure he is a good guy and all but the web is full of comic artists etc, and their drama isn't really of interest outside their fansites is it? Is he a buddy of some of the fark-mafia or something?
 
2012-12-10 11:50:00 PM
I like how the Buzzfeed writer acts like it is some awful sin to write things that you think people will like, and then want payment for creating them. I am reminded of a huge rant that John Scalzi went on yesterday about artists being expected to undervalue their work as some sort of artistic integrity hazing.
 
2012-12-10 11:53:28 PM

gaspode: Why do posts about this guy get so much farkspace? Nothing against him, Im sure he is a good guy and all but the web is full of comic artists etc, and their drama isn't really of interest outside their fansites is it? Is he a buddy of some of the fark-mafia or something?


I bet it is a paid link to drive page views!
 
2012-12-10 11:54:23 PM

moothemagiccow: i cant decide which is worse, xkcd or the oatmeal


NotSureIfSerious.jpg
 
2012-12-10 11:58:11 PM
"Pageview journalism", I really like that.
Oatmeal isn't really my type of humor most of the time, but he seems like a cool guy.
 
2012-12-10 11:59:46 PM
I'm not sure if the oatmeal guy is high-maintenance, douchey or just loves drama. Maybe it's all three.
 
2012-12-11 12:03:03 AM

vwarb: I like how the Buzzfeed writer acts like it is some awful sin to write things that you think people will like, and then want payment for creating them. I am reminded of a huge rant that John Scalzi went on yesterday about artists being expected to undervalue their work as some sort of artistic integrity hazing.



I like how Matthew Inman buys into it. "I bought a house for my sister and donated to charity, so it's all right"!

No, Matthew, it's not all right because you bought a house for your sister and donated to charity. It's all right because THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MAKING MONEY SELLING ART!

His answer to that part should have been "Damn right I'm a millionaire. I'm rich, and you're not, because you suck and I don't".

For being a comedian, Inman's got a hell of a thin skin. He could have ripped Buzz Killington a new asshole without accepting his premise.
 
2012-12-11 12:03:08 AM

God-is-a-Taco: "Pageview journalism", I really like that.


And one of Fark's old "partners" is a pioneer in it. SportsByBrooks THRIVES on pageviews journalism after he figured out he could do away with the boobs.
 
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