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2012-12-11 12:13:18 AM
6 votes:

CruJones: can I donate clothes to Goodwill that I bought at Goodwill?


My mother always gave clothes to the 7th Day Adventists, not Goodwill or the Salvation Army, because the 7th Day Adventists did not sell the duds, they gave them to needy people.

My mother - you've probably never heard of her, she's kind of obscure.
2012-12-11 12:51:41 AM
3 votes:

Wayne 985: basically built like a telephone poll


In other words, you're built like a survey? Like one Gallup would call you up for?
2012-12-11 12:23:16 AM
3 votes:

spacemanjones: Who gives a fluck what people spend their money on? It's their money. You buy shti that I would never buy and I'm sure I buy shti you would never buy. Big deal. Get over yourselves.


I'll sell you my shiat for fifty bucks. It's vintage.
2012-12-11 12:00:03 AM
3 votes:

JohnAnnArbor: Fano: Abox: Hipster claiming there's no such thing as hipsters in 3...2...1...

Let me head off that bullshiat by giving an easy definition of a hipster that does not include mention of specific items of clothing or objects they carry:

A hipster can be defined by liking things for ironic purposes only. Value in their eyes is determined by liking things because they are "lame" or "square" or "uncool." Obscurity helps. Step 2 is defining an ingroup of other people that like things in an ironic fashion. Not to embrace kitsch or retro on its own merits. Thus the circle is squared.

But they have to like the SAME things, right? Or are the hipster friends expected to each have mutually-exclusive interests?

/We need anthropologists to study this question.


Hipster is like twins, it usually skips a generation.

Person 1 likes a new band and is a hipster because the new band is obscure. You probably haven't heard of them.
Person 2 starts liking the band, is a poser. Person 1 liked that band before they sold out.
Person 3 starts liking the band and is a hipster because they are ironically liking a band that only posers like.
2012-12-10 11:45:51 PM
3 votes:
"Our One-Of-A-Kind Vintage collection is a curated selection of vintage items that our buyers have found throughout their travels from various cities and locations."

Oh, I'll bet they curate the crap out of it. "Vinnie! Cut open that new bale of clothes that just got dumped on the loading dock."
2012-12-10 09:53:02 PM
3 votes:
We interviewed a "vintage seller" at the Artists & Fleas market in Williamsburg, Brooklyn about how he got his merchandise.

He was selling vintage Lacoste and Polo sweaters for $45.

"Basically I just go to Texas once a year, go to the Goodwill store in a nice suburban neighborhood, and load up on stuff that just costs a few dollars," he said. "Then I come here and people go crazy for it."


wait until brooklyn hipsters find out they are wearing the rejected garments of texan suburbanites.
2012-12-11 02:30:59 AM
2 votes:

The Dog Ate My Homework: I never really understood all the anti-hipster sentiment on fark.

That is, until the other night when I found myself in a local brewery completely filled with hipsters. I honestly wanted to start kicking people in the nuts. It's really that annoying. Frankly I'm amazed I ever got in the place without cuffed skinny jeans, thick plastic-rimmed glasses, and a secondhand fedora.


There seems to be two distinctly different, shall we say, "styles" of hipster.
One is that subtype that can all be described the way you did: skinny jeans, glasses, etc.
The other is the kind that takes their fetish for ironic / obscure things into the clothing realm as well. They have no uniform, per se, but can be identified by the ridiculosity level of their outfit. Even beyond shopping at thrift stores or some local designer you've never heard of, the things they wear are ironic because nobody in their right farking mind would wear them. A Canadian fur hat with a tank top, or cutoff shorts with an ugly knit sweater? Scarves in any given weather, or a dude wearing a dress with a beret? Hipsters are like the Rule 34 for clothing: if you can think of it, a hipster has worn it. I know more than one person who lives in a hipster-dense area that plays the game "costume or outfit?".

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2012-12-11 02:07:53 AM
2 votes:
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DarkSoulNoHope: I think the only reason I survived my trip to Williamsburg is because I was fully "Goth'd out" when I decided to venture there (I still felt like a fish out of water, with how the people acted around me). They still didn't let me modify the cheeseburger I ordered.


To be fair, no one knows what the fark a "dark cheeseburger" is
2012-12-11 01:15:47 AM
2 votes:

Abox: Hipster claiming there's no such thing as hipsters in 3...2...1...


I'm not really a hipster, I'm only acting like one ironically.
2012-12-11 12:59:51 AM
2 votes:

Happy Hours: Wayne 985: basically built like a telephone poll

In other words, you're built like a survey? Like one Gallup would call you up for?


I guess I could be, if you had a vertical bar graph with one really popular option.
2012-12-11 12:52:50 AM
2 votes:
igcelebs.com

FUTURE HIPSTERS. i shudder to think about what they're all going to look like when they're old.
2012-12-11 12:45:25 AM
2 votes:

Heamer: Also, Thrift Shop. (NSFW lyrics)


They be like, Oh that Gucci, that's hella tight
I'm like, yo, that's $50 for a t-shirt!
Limited edition, let's do some simple addition
$50 for a t-shirt that's just some ignorant biatch, shiat
I call that get swindled and pimped, shiat
I call that getting tricked by a bizness
That shirt's hella dope
And having the same one as six other people in this club is a hella don't
Peep game, come take a look through my telescope
Trying to get girls from a brand? Then you hella won't
2012-12-11 12:33:23 AM
2 votes:

The Dog Ate My Homework: I never really understood all the anti-hipster sentiment on fark.

That is, until the other night when I found myself in a local brewery completely filled with hipsters. I honestly wanted to start kicking people in the nuts. It's really that annoying. Frankly I'm amazed I ever got in the place without cuffed skinny jeans, thick plastic-rimmed glasses, and a secondhand fedora. Maybe they just wanted to laugh at the normal guy with a real job. In which case I say, laugh away.


Just never set foot in Williamsburg Brooklyn. If nothing else all the "hipster" all the neighborhoods in chicago are diverse enough so that the skinny jeans-wearing, ironic facial hair-sporting crowd are just here and there. Williamsburg felt like being at Epcot and having a "hipster-world" wedged in between "Canada" and "Morocco" where everyone was required to be in full costume the entire time.
2012-12-11 12:25:58 AM
2 votes:
I never really understood all the anti-hipster sentiment on fark.

That is, until the other night when I found myself in a local brewery completely filled with hipsters. I honestly wanted to start kicking people in the nuts. It's really that annoying. Frankly I'm amazed I ever got in the place without cuffed skinny jeans, thick plastic-rimmed glasses, and a secondhand fedora. Maybe they just wanted to laugh at the normal guy with a real job. In which case I say, laugh away.
2012-12-10 10:53:06 PM
2 votes:

Makh: Wait until they find out about the thrift stores? They are having a massive sale with those great prices.


No, no, no. Thrift stores are for the common, the mainstream, and the terminally unhip. The cool and ironic individual buys their used clothing at a massive markup at a cool and ironic place with a cool and ironic name like Artists and Fleas. It is also cool and ironic to wear sweaters discarded by Texan suburbanites who obviously are not worthy of this cool and ironic clothing, else they wouldn't have sold them at a yard sale.
2012-12-11 07:42:27 AM
1 votes:
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"What, would you say, is the easiest way to get money away from a Hipster?..."
2012-12-11 02:23:21 AM
1 votes:

Fano: A hipster can be defined by liking things for ironic purposes only. Value in their eyes is determined by liking things because they are "lame" or "square" or "uncool." Obscurity helps. Step 2 is defining an ingroup of other people that like things in an ironic fashion.


Is something cool because it is inherently cool, or because cool people like it? i.e., is coolness objective or relative?

If coolness is objective, then the liking of something ironically (being a thing) is itself objectively cool or uncool, which leaves four possibilities depending on the coolness of the original thing (for simplicity, say each hipster only likes one thing ironically).

Cool thing the ironic liking of which is also cool (impossible by definition since hipsters only ironically like uncool things)
Cool thing the ironic liking of which is uncool (paradoxical meta-hipster)
Uncool thing the ironic liking of which is cool (classic hipster)
Uncool thing the ironic liking of which is uncool (the hipster's hipster, the meta-hipster)

Now, does a particular hipster care what other people think of their hipsterism? i.e. is a particular hipster a solitary hipster, or a 'hipster disciple'? This can't affect the objective coolness of anything, since people could in principle think differently (unless you don't believe in free will).

Consider the classical hipster: do he believe his hipsterism is cool, or uncool? i.e., is he a classic hipster who thinks he is a meta-hipster, or a meta-hipster who thinks he is a classic hipster? Or has he correctly self-categorized?

Assuming correct self-categorization, is he happy with his lot? Unhappy meta-hipsters will tend to form groups, to create a supportive environment where the can safely delude themselves into thinking they are cool. Unhappy classic hipsters will tend to self-isolate, most easily achieved by placing a higher value on obscurity.

Happy classic hipsters will also tend to self-isolate, and happy meta-hipsters may form groups, although the dual uncoolness of their hipsterism is likely to inhibit group-formation, plus there probably aren't that many of them.

Thus I present to you (given the assumptions above), the Hipster Disciple Conjecture: an in-group of hipsters is most likely to consist of unhappy classic hipsters, or meta-hipster wannabes.
2012-12-11 02:16:44 AM
1 votes:

Ishkur: Fano: A hipster can be defined by liking things for ironic purposes only. Value in their eyes is determined by liking things because they are "lame" or "square" or "uncool." Obscurity helps. Step 2 is defining an ingroup of other people that like things in an ironic fashion. Not to embrace kitsch or retro on its own merits. Thus the circle is squared.

I actually read the best description of hipsters in this thread once upon a time. I'll repost for emphasis:


At the base of hipsterism is the search for "authenticity" in the existentialist sense -being true to themselves despite external pressure- and an idea that their own contemporary culture is inauthentic. But not everyone who seeks authenticity outside the mainstream is a hipster: the key ingredient is the idea that authenticity is something you can get from somebody else: mimed, traded for, or bought outright. The theory goes that by doing what "authentic" people do and not doing what "inauthentic" people do, one will eventually become authentic.

The thing about hipsters is that they seek "authenticity" (in the existentialist sense: being true to one's self despite external pressure), but they think authenticity is something that can be mimed, but they also think that their own contemporary culture is hopelessly inauthentic. By doing what "authentic" people do and avoiding what "inauthentic" people do, the theory goes, they too will eventually find their own authenticity.

Almost any non-hipster can tell you that this is absurd, but it is key to understanding how hipsters work: they have a massive blind spot with respect to their own inauthenticity. They look outside themselves to find something authentic, spot it in another culture and/or time period, and take on the trappings of what they have found. That's an inherently inauthentic thing to do, but the hipsters don't get that.

Eventually, though, pop culture -which has always been fascinated by hipsters and their predecessors- picks up on the latest thing ...


That is a perfect description. I feel humbled by my attempt to circumvent a Hipster debate thread based on what I considered first principles. Your data should be posted in every Hipster thread, as it is entirely accurate. I don't hate them; I haven't run into enough of them to get that visceral feeling. I pity such folks that have such a worldview.
2012-12-11 02:05:12 AM
1 votes:

Longtime Lurker: The Dog Ate My Homework: I never really understood all the anti-hipster sentiment on fark.

That is, until the other night when I found myself in a local brewery completely filled with hipsters. I honestly wanted to start kicking people in the nuts. It's really that annoying. Frankly I'm amazed I ever got in the place without cuffed skinny jeans, thick plastic-rimmed glasses, and a secondhand fedora. Maybe they just wanted to laugh at the normal guy with a real job. In which case I say, laugh away.

Just never set foot in Williamsburg Brooklyn. If nothing else all the "hipster" all the neighborhoods in chicago are diverse enough so that the skinny jeans-wearing, ironic facial hair-sporting crowd are just here and there. Williamsburg felt like being at Epcot and having a "hipster-world" wedged in between "Canada" and "Morocco" where everyone was required to be in full costume the entire time.


No joke there. I think the only reason I survived my trip to Williamsburg is because I was fully "Goth'd out" when I decided to venture there (I still felt like a fish out of water, with how the people acted around me). They still didn't let me modify the cheeseburger I ordered. I felt going full Jack Nicholson on them (since I was born in his town where he grew up, I was feeling his spirit rise into me... oh wait, he's not dead yet!), but felt too tired and hungry at the time to complain and decided, "What the hell, I am trying to figure out what these people are like, I might as well eat their food." Big mistake, the burger was hell; an over spiced mishmash of confusing flavors. Whole bunch of vinyl shops, no record player stores though. (weird!) The people were even worse.
2012-12-11 01:43:22 AM
1 votes:
dcist.com

The Real Deal

/Urban Outfitters even tries to cop the look of the place.
2012-12-11 01:42:58 AM
1 votes:
Perfect opportunity to use the Ironic Tag, and subbie blew it.
2012-12-11 01:20:59 AM
1 votes:
Alll the old hipsters around here pay top dollar for "antique" furniture and other used junk.
2012-12-11 12:48:34 AM
1 votes:
I don't even know what hipsters are, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like them.
2012-12-11 12:47:37 AM
1 votes:
Urban Outfitters is SO OVER! caskstrength.files.wordpress.com
2012-12-11 12:38:23 AM
1 votes:

Longtime Lurker: As much as I like to hate on the hipster crowd in my area, what they've been replaced with as the rents have risen is the worst sort of frat boy "bro" club.


Are you trying to tell us there's a difference?
2012-12-11 12:29:36 AM
1 votes:

dudemanbro: Anybody want to buy my old boxers? They're vintage.


Would you run them through the wash first?

Hot cycle, with bleach?
2012-12-11 12:26:19 AM
1 votes:

Fano: RogermcAllen: JohnAnnArbor: Fano: Abox: Hipster claiming there's no such thing as hipsters in 3...2...1...

Let me head off that bullshiat by giving an easy definition of a hipster that does not include mention of specific items of clothing or objects they carry:

A hipster can be defined by liking things for ironic purposes only. Value in their eyes is determined by liking things because they are "lame" or "square" or "uncool." Obscurity helps. Step 2 is defining an ingroup of other people that like things in an ironic fashion. Not to embrace kitsch or retro on its own merits. Thus the circle is squared.

But they have to like the SAME things, right? Or are the hipster friends expected to each have mutually-exclusive interests?

/We need anthropologists to study this question.

Hipster is like twins, it usually skips a generation.

Person 1 likes a new band and is a hipster because the new band is obscure. You probably haven't heard of them.
Person 2 starts liking the band, is a poser. Person 1 liked that band before they sold out.
Person 3 starts liking the band and is a hipster because they are ironically liking a band that only posers like.

I was about to say that the ingroup also likes said uncool things, but you posted a complicating wrinkle that explains why the concept of being a hipster is inherently unstable and indefensible as an ethos. I was presenting a Ptolemaic version of Hipsterdom, where the Hipsters formed into interlocking orbits based on their shared likes. I realize I stand corrected that one of the most pernicious sins of Hipsters is as you describe, eating their own. My central premise still holds up though I didn't consider the consequences of multiple iterations of enjoying things ironically. My view is now going fractal.


A fractal Venn diagram of hipster preferences. I bet not even the xkcd could draw that up.
2012-12-11 12:19:00 AM
1 votes:

RogermcAllen: JohnAnnArbor: Fano: Abox: Hipster claiming there's no such thing as hipsters in 3...2...1...

Let me head off that bullshiat by giving an easy definition of a hipster that does not include mention of specific items of clothing or objects they carry:

A hipster can be defined by liking things for ironic purposes only. Value in their eyes is determined by liking things because they are "lame" or "square" or "uncool." Obscurity helps. Step 2 is defining an ingroup of other people that like things in an ironic fashion. Not to embrace kitsch or retro on its own merits. Thus the circle is squared.

But they have to like the SAME things, right? Or are the hipster friends expected to each have mutually-exclusive interests?

/We need anthropologists to study this question.

Hipster is like twins, it usually skips a generation.

Person 1 likes a new band and is a hipster because the new band is obscure. You probably haven't heard of them.
Person 2 starts liking the band, is a poser. Person 1 liked that band before they sold out.
Person 3 starts liking the band and is a hipster because they are ironically liking a band that only posers like.


I was about to say that the ingroup also likes said uncool things, but you posted a complicating wrinkle that explains why the concept of being a hipster is inherently unstable and indefensible as an ethos. I was presenting a Ptolemaic version of Hipsterdom, where the Hipsters formed into interlocking orbits based on their shared likes. I realize I stand corrected that one of the most pernicious sins of Hipsters is as you describe, eating their own. My central premise still holds up though I didn't consider the consequences of multiple iterations of enjoying things ironically. My view is now going fractal.
2012-12-11 12:17:35 AM
1 votes:
Anyone ever been to downtown Santa Cruz? Every damn store is a vintage retailer yet there is a farkin Urban Outiftters in the center of it all. I can't say that the vintage retailers are any less overpriced, though.
2012-12-11 12:14:36 AM
1 votes:
Can I disown my generation?
2012-12-11 12:08:59 AM
1 votes:
/looks down at attire

//doggone...I'm a hipster
2012-12-11 12:08:22 AM
1 votes:

CruJones: There was a Simpsons/Portlandia crossover episode last night, Springfield was invaded by hipsters.

/can I donate clothes to Goodwill that I bought at Goodwill?


No. It creates a black hole where all the mass of all the hipness condences into a point of ironic singularity so dense that eventually we will all be swallowed by smug.
2012-12-11 12:04:28 AM
1 votes:
There was a Simpsons/Portlandia crossover episode last night, Springfield was invaded by hipsters.

/can I donate clothes to Goodwill that I bought at Goodwill?
2012-12-11 12:03:59 AM
1 votes:

Heamer: Also, Thrift Shop. (NSFW lyrics)


This is my new favorite track.

/can't wait for the dubstep remix
//not sure if being ironic
2012-12-10 11:55:37 PM
1 votes:
I just never throw away any of my old clothes. Most of them are vintage by now. Sometimes they literally fall apart and that's when I know I should throw them away
2012-12-10 11:54:10 PM
1 votes:

Fano: Abox: Hipster claiming there's no such thing as hipsters in 3...2...1...

Let me head off that bullshiat by giving an easy definition of a hipster that does not include mention of specific items of clothing or objects they carry:

A hipster can be defined by liking things for ironic purposes only. Value in their eyes is determined by liking things because they are "lame" or "square" or "uncool." Obscurity helps. Step 2 is defining an ingroup of other people that like things in an ironic fashion. Not to embrace kitsch or retro on its own merits. Thus the circle is squared.


But they have to like the SAME things, right? Or are the hipster friends expected to each have mutually-exclusive interests?

/We need anthropologists to study this question.
2012-12-10 11:50:14 PM
1 votes:

Abox: Hipster claiming there's no such thing as hipsters in 3...2...1...


Dude. I live in Portland. Hipsters exist, I know many and probably would be called one by most of Fark. I just don't know any who shop at Urban Outfitters.
2012-12-10 11:48:26 PM
1 votes:
Also, Thrift Shop. (NSFW lyrics)
2012-12-10 11:44:31 PM
1 votes:
vintage stores are nothing new. they charge about 10x as much as thrift stores, they generally pay for used clothes and dont just take whatever you have. there was a farging episode of seinfeld about this, thats how not news this is
2012-12-10 11:27:55 PM
1 votes:
It's worth it to not have to deal with the poor people at Goodwill.
2012-12-10 11:21:46 PM
1 votes:
I don't generally shop at Urban Outfitters but I'm okay with this. I hate taking the time in Goodwill/Salvation Army/Random thrift store and sorting through all the clothes attempting to find something I like, in my size, and also in wearable condition. I want to walk in, maybe do quick browse (15 minutes, tops) and leave. Preferably without needing to try on clothes as well. I hate clothes shopping.
2012-12-10 10:15:34 PM
1 votes:
Wait until they find out about the thrift stores? They are having a massive sale with those great prices.
2012-12-10 08:46:33 PM
1 votes:
All goods are worth what people are willing to pay for them.

Inflation is the child of idiots.
 
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