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2012-12-10 08:45:08 PM
vintage

Ah, 2012, an excellent year for hosing hipsters.
 
2012-12-10 08:46:33 PM
All goods are worth what people are willing to pay for them.

Inflation is the child of idiots.
 
2012-12-10 09:53:02 PM
We interviewed a "vintage seller" at the Artists & Fleas market in Williamsburg, Brooklyn about how he got his merchandise.

He was selling vintage Lacoste and Polo sweaters for $45.

"Basically I just go to Texas once a year, go to the Goodwill store in a nice suburban neighborhood, and load up on stuff that just costs a few dollars," he said. "Then I come here and people go crazy for it."


wait until brooklyn hipsters find out they are wearing the rejected garments of texan suburbanites.
 
2012-12-10 10:15:34 PM
Wait until they find out about the thrift stores? They are having a massive sale with those great prices.
 
2012-12-10 10:51:35 PM
Allow me to say, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
 
2012-12-10 10:53:06 PM

Makh: Wait until they find out about the thrift stores? They are having a massive sale with those great prices.


No, no, no. Thrift stores are for the common, the mainstream, and the terminally unhip. The cool and ironic individual buys their used clothing at a massive markup at a cool and ironic place with a cool and ironic name like Artists and Fleas. It is also cool and ironic to wear sweaters discarded by Texan suburbanites who obviously are not worthy of this cool and ironic clothing, else they wouldn't have sold them at a yard sale.
 
2012-12-10 11:21:46 PM
I don't generally shop at Urban Outfitters but I'm okay with this. I hate taking the time in Goodwill/Salvation Army/Random thrift store and sorting through all the clothes attempting to find something I like, in my size, and also in wearable condition. I want to walk in, maybe do quick browse (15 minutes, tops) and leave. Preferably without needing to try on clothes as well. I hate clothes shopping.
 
2012-12-10 11:27:55 PM
It's worth it to not have to deal with the poor people at Goodwill.
 
2012-12-10 11:42:36 PM
Hipster claiming there's no such thing as hipsters in 3...2...1...
 
2012-12-10 11:43:27 PM
Same thing as the 'holes in jeans' thing right?
 
2012-12-10 11:43:59 PM
Selling old clothes as "vintage" is wrong and new?

How?
 
2012-12-10 11:44:10 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

Approves
 
2012-12-10 11:44:31 PM
vintage stores are nothing new. they charge about 10x as much as thrift stores, they generally pay for used clothes and dont just take whatever you have. there was a farging episode of seinfeld about this, thats how not news this is
 
2012-12-10 11:45:51 PM
"Our One-Of-A-Kind Vintage collection is a curated selection of vintage items that our buyers have found throughout their travels from various cities and locations."

Oh, I'll bet they curate the crap out of it. "Vinnie! Cut open that new bale of clothes that just got dumped on the loading dock."
 
2012-12-10 11:46:07 PM

Abox: Hipster claiming there's no such thing as hipsters in 3...2...1...


just a smarmier synonym for douche or asshole.
 
2012-12-10 11:46:46 PM

SlothB77: wait until brooklyn hipsters find out they are wearing the rejected garments of texan suburbanites.


If anything, they'll revel in the irony of it all.
 
2012-12-10 11:48:23 PM
*shrug* It's kind of like a Stupid Tax. Like the lottery, but über hip.
 
2012-12-10 11:48:26 PM
Also, Thrift Shop. (NSFW lyrics)
 
2012-12-10 11:50:14 PM

Abox: Hipster claiming there's no such thing as hipsters in 3...2...1...


Dude. I live in Portland. Hipsters exist, I know many and probably would be called one by most of Fark. I just don't know any who shop at Urban Outfitters.
 
2012-12-10 11:51:20 PM
"Our One-Of-A-Kind Vintage collection is a curated..."

OK, I can now totally hate this. Choosing crap not curating.

/ Brother is an actual curator
// Of museum items you have likely gazed upon
 
2012-12-10 11:51:32 PM

Abox: Hipster claiming there's no such thing as hipsters in 3...2...1...


Let me head off that bullshiat by giving an easy definition of a hipster that does not include mention of specific items of clothing or objects they carry:

A hipster can be defined by liking things for ironic purposes only. Value in their eyes is determined by liking things because they are "lame" or "square" or "uncool." Obscurity helps. Step 2 is defining an ingroup of other people that like things in an ironic fashion. Not to embrace kitsch or retro on its own merits. Thus the circle is squared.
 
2012-12-10 11:52:32 PM
I'm fairly sure that anyone shopping at Urban Outfitter would be considered a poser at best, not a hipster.
 
2012-12-10 11:52:39 PM
And I sit back and wonder how China got all of the US' money?

/LOLs
 
2012-12-10 11:53:13 PM
Hipsters that buy that crap at Urban Outfitters are paying an order of magnitude higher price to have someone pick it for them out of a thrift shop.

Like buying a stoner T-shirt at Haight & Ashbury.
 
2012-12-10 11:54:10 PM

Fano: Abox: Hipster claiming there's no such thing as hipsters in 3...2...1...

Let me head off that bullshiat by giving an easy definition of a hipster that does not include mention of specific items of clothing or objects they carry:

A hipster can be defined by liking things for ironic purposes only. Value in their eyes is determined by liking things because they are "lame" or "square" or "uncool." Obscurity helps. Step 2 is defining an ingroup of other people that like things in an ironic fashion. Not to embrace kitsch or retro on its own merits. Thus the circle is squared.


But they have to like the SAME things, right? Or are the hipster friends expected to each have mutually-exclusive interests?

/We need anthropologists to study this question.
 
2012-12-10 11:55:25 PM
It IS WORTH $50..... they went out and picked through all kinds of shiat to find it. People who think they should be able to purchase things at wholesale bother me. There is a cost associated with finding the stuff and shipping it, etc...

That being said, if you are such a loser that you can't go to ACTUAL yardsales to by your shiat and instead hit UO because you have no actual knowledge of style....... well then, you are a douchebag.
 
2012-12-10 11:55:37 PM
I just never throw away any of my old clothes. Most of them are vintage by now. Sometimes they literally fall apart and that's when I know I should throw them away
 
2012-12-10 11:56:52 PM

skylabdown: It IS WORTH $50..... they went out and picked through all kinds of shiat to find it. People who think they should be able to purchase things at wholesale bother me. There is a cost associated with finding the stuff and shipping it, etc...

That being said, if you are such a loser that you can't go to ACTUAL yardsales to by your shiat and instead hit UO because you have no actual knowledge of style....... well then, you are a douchebag.


You are a douchebag for calling it "UO".

/We all know you shop there.
 
2012-12-10 11:57:40 PM

Happy Hours: I just never throw away any of my old clothes. Most of them are vintage by now. Sometimes they literally fall apart and that's when I know I should throw them away


You sound old.
 
2012-12-11 12:00:03 AM

JohnAnnArbor: Fano: Abox: Hipster claiming there's no such thing as hipsters in 3...2...1...

Let me head off that bullshiat by giving an easy definition of a hipster that does not include mention of specific items of clothing or objects they carry:

A hipster can be defined by liking things for ironic purposes only. Value in their eyes is determined by liking things because they are "lame" or "square" or "uncool." Obscurity helps. Step 2 is defining an ingroup of other people that like things in an ironic fashion. Not to embrace kitsch or retro on its own merits. Thus the circle is squared.

But they have to like the SAME things, right? Or are the hipster friends expected to each have mutually-exclusive interests?

/We need anthropologists to study this question.


Hipster is like twins, it usually skips a generation.

Person 1 likes a new band and is a hipster because the new band is obscure. You probably haven't heard of them.
Person 2 starts liking the band, is a poser. Person 1 liked that band before they sold out.
Person 3 starts liking the band and is a hipster because they are ironically liking a band that only posers like.
 
2012-12-11 12:03:59 AM

Heamer: Also, Thrift Shop. (NSFW lyrics)


This is my new favorite track.

/can't wait for the dubstep remix
//not sure if being ironic
 
2012-12-11 12:04:28 AM
There was a Simpsons/Portlandia crossover episode last night, Springfield was invaded by hipsters.

/can I donate clothes to Goodwill that I bought at Goodwill?
 
2012-12-11 12:08:22 AM

CruJones: There was a Simpsons/Portlandia crossover episode last night, Springfield was invaded by hipsters.

/can I donate clothes to Goodwill that I bought at Goodwill?


No. It creates a black hole where all the mass of all the hipness condences into a point of ironic singularity so dense that eventually we will all be swallowed by smug.
 
2012-12-11 12:08:48 AM

TofuTheAlmighty: I'm fairly sure that anyone shopping at Urban Outfitter would be considered a poser at best, not a hipster.


Calculation: Most likely result. Much like Gap Brand Grunge Clothing in the 90s. Query: How can one buy cast off clothing for severe markup and be considered "knowledgable?"
 
2012-12-11 12:08:59 AM
/looks down at attire

//doggone...I'm a hipster
 
2012-12-11 12:09:28 AM
Is it ridiculous to pay $50 for something you could buy for $5? Yes.

Is it ridiculous to not sell something for $50 wen you bought it for $5, if some idiot didn't read the first Q&A? Yes.
 
2012-12-11 12:12:41 AM
And hipsters shell out the money regardless. It's no different in Florida, I know someone who buys jeans from Bealls Outlet, fades them and adds a few decorations from a kit she bought from walmart. I don't recall the name of the kit she buys, but she adds some fake plastic jewels to the clothes and simply re-sells them on ebay, and she turns out a few shirts/pants every week.

/funniest thing i've seen was she took a cheap $10 pair of jeans, and using the jewels she glued "ABBA" on the butt of it, they sold on ebay for $131 plus shipping.
//I would laugh, but frankly I'd rather punch the person who bought jeans for that much
 
2012-12-11 12:13:18 AM

CruJones: can I donate clothes to Goodwill that I bought at Goodwill?


My mother always gave clothes to the 7th Day Adventists, not Goodwill or the Salvation Army, because the 7th Day Adventists did not sell the duds, they gave them to needy people.

My mother - you've probably never heard of her, she's kind of obscure.
 
2012-12-11 12:14:36 AM
Can I disown my generation?
 
2012-12-11 12:15:43 AM
I had a read about something called "The New Sincerity" which is apparently the philosophical wellspring of the hipster movement. My head nearly exploded wide open from the pretension of it all. I wish I could pimp that sort of horse shiat with a straight face so that I could separate the insecure from their money.
 
2012-12-11 12:17:35 AM
Anyone ever been to downtown Santa Cruz? Every damn store is a vintage retailer yet there is a farkin Urban Outiftters in the center of it all. I can't say that the vintage retailers are any less overpriced, though.
 
2012-12-11 12:19:00 AM

RogermcAllen: JohnAnnArbor: Fano: Abox: Hipster claiming there's no such thing as hipsters in 3...2...1...

Let me head off that bullshiat by giving an easy definition of a hipster that does not include mention of specific items of clothing or objects they carry:

A hipster can be defined by liking things for ironic purposes only. Value in their eyes is determined by liking things because they are "lame" or "square" or "uncool." Obscurity helps. Step 2 is defining an ingroup of other people that like things in an ironic fashion. Not to embrace kitsch or retro on its own merits. Thus the circle is squared.

But they have to like the SAME things, right? Or are the hipster friends expected to each have mutually-exclusive interests?

/We need anthropologists to study this question.

Hipster is like twins, it usually skips a generation.

Person 1 likes a new band and is a hipster because the new band is obscure. You probably haven't heard of them.
Person 2 starts liking the band, is a poser. Person 1 liked that band before they sold out.
Person 3 starts liking the band and is a hipster because they are ironically liking a band that only posers like.


I was about to say that the ingroup also likes said uncool things, but you posted a complicating wrinkle that explains why the concept of being a hipster is inherently unstable and indefensible as an ethos. I was presenting a Ptolemaic version of Hipsterdom, where the Hipsters formed into interlocking orbits based on their shared likes. I realize I stand corrected that one of the most pernicious sins of Hipsters is as you describe, eating their own. My central premise still holds up though I didn't consider the consequences of multiple iterations of enjoying things ironically. My view is now going fractal.
 
2012-12-11 12:19:15 AM
In the late '70s I worked at a tourist restaurant on the beach islands in Tampa/St. Pete, Florida. I drew charcoal portraits of folks waiting for tables during season. I rented space from dealers who traveled the US, buying turquoise and silver jewelry in the Southwest and selling it to the Yankee Jews, affluent Midwesterners and Canadians in FL. They then bought fancy shells and sold them to landlocked folks in New Mex and AZ. Cycle of desire. Portraits and porno sell anywhere, thank christ.
 
2012-12-11 12:20:12 AM
Recycling clothes in your store = bad.

Recycling Reddit threads as "news" stories = good.

Got it.
 
2012-12-11 12:20:26 AM
Who gives a fluck what people spend their money on? It's their money. You buy shti that I would never buy and I'm sure I buy shti you would never buy. Big deal. Get over yourselves.
 
2012-12-11 12:21:38 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Is it ridiculous to pay $50 for something you could buy for $5? Yes.

Is it ridiculous to not sell something for $50 wen you bought it for $5, if some idiot didn't read the first Q&A? Yes.


Also when it was brand new it probablys cost LESS than 2 dollars to make and therefore the first round consumer was paying an even higher markup.
 
2012-12-11 12:23:16 AM

spacemanjones: Who gives a fluck what people spend their money on? It's their money. You buy shti that I would never buy and I'm sure I buy shti you would never buy. Big deal. Get over yourselves.


I'll sell you my shiat for fifty bucks. It's vintage.
 
2012-12-11 12:23:54 AM

spamdog: I had a read about something called "The New Sincerity" which is apparently the philosophical wellspring of the hipster movement. My head nearly exploded wide open from the pretension of it all. I wish I could pimp that sort of horse shiat with a straight face so that I could separate the insecure from their money.


Ouroboros

Money quote from wiki:

Critic Jim Collins introduced the concept of "new sincerity" to film criticism in his 1993 essay entitled "Genericity in the 90s: Eclectic Irony and the New Sincerity." In this essay he contrasts films that treat genre conventions with "eclectic irony" and those that treat them seriously, with "new sincerity." Collins describes

the 'new sincerity' of films like Field of Dreams (1989), Dances With Wolves (1990), and Hook (1991), all of which depend not on hybridization, but on an "ethnographic" rewriting of the classic genre film that serves as their inspiration, all attempting, using one strategy or another, to recover a lost "purity," which apparently pre-existed even the Golden Age of film genre.

Other critics have suggested "new sincerity" as a descriptive term for work by American filmmakers such as Wes Anderson, P. T. Anderson, Todd Louiso, Sofia Coppola, and Charlie Kaufman, Zach Braff, and Jared Hess,[18] and filmmakers from other countries such as Michel Gondry, Lars von Trier, the Dogme 95 movement, Aki Kaurismäki, and Pedro Almodóvar. The "aesthetics of new sincerity" have also been connected to other art forms including "reality television, Internet blogs, diary style 'chicklit' literature, [and] personal videos on You-Tube. . . . "
 
2012-12-11 12:24:04 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-11 12:25:21 AM

spacemanjones: Who gives a fluck what people spend their money on? It's their money. You buy shti that I would never buy and I'm sure I buy shti you would never buy. Big deal. Get over yourselves.


you said "shti" twice
 
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