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(Talking Points Memo)   Most popular choice to replace outgoing Senator Jim DeMint (Republican) is Stephen Colbert (political satirist). Nathan Poe unavailable for comment   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line
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2012-12-10 01:55:55 PM  
I say they should give this fellow another chance.

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2012-12-10 01:58:41 PM  
The milk gaffe is going to keep him from getting the appointment, but this sort of poll implies he might make an interesting challenger for a SC senate seat in 2014.
 
2012-12-10 02:14:58 PM  
Among Democrats 32% say they'd like Colbert to be picked with Jenny Sanford at 19% and

lol

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2012-12-10 02:21:19 PM  
Like Nikki Haley is going to pick someone smart to replace DeMint. That would upset the delicate derp balance in the Senate.
 
2012-12-10 02:21:49 PM  

lennavan: Among Democrats 32% say they'd like Colbert to be picked with Jenny Sanford at 19% and

lol

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Actually I learned alot about her since Mark's adventures on the Appalachian Trail. Her biggest flaw was marrying him even though deep down she knew he didn't love her. She made herself conform to the role. But it was Mark who made her realize what a stupid thing that was do - in spectacular fashion.
 
2012-12-10 02:22:02 PM  
don't you have to live in the state to be a Senator from there? last I checked, Montclair, NJ isn't in SC. that must be some really farking crazy redistricting.
 
2012-12-10 02:25:46 PM  

Diogenes: lennavan: Among Democrats 32% say they'd like Colbert to be picked with Jenny Sanford at 19% and

lol

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Actually I learned alot about her since Mark's adventures on the Appalachian Trail. Her biggest flaw was marrying him even though deep down she knew he didn't love her. She made herself conform to the role. But it was Mark who made her realize what a stupid thing that was do - in spectacular fashion.


Oh I learned about her during his trips to Argentina. She was an amazingly intelligent and incredibly successful woman. But I don't know much about her political stances and I just find it funny to interpret the 19% of SC Democrats also do not but and are saying her name for the lulz. And the lulz are awesome.
 
2012-12-10 02:56:00 PM  

ManateeGag: don't you have to live in the state to be a Senator from there? last I checked, Montclair, NJ isn't in SC. that must be some really farking crazy redistricting.


Colbert is from SC, and I believe he still owns a second home there.
 
2012-12-10 03:01:18 PM  

abb3w: The milk gaffe is going to keep him from getting the appointment, but this sort of poll implies he might make an interesting challenger for a SC senate seat in 2014.


The milk gaffe is just BS, like when the SC Democratic Party wouldn't let him run in the primary because he wasn't a "serious candidate".

If he fulfilled every requirement for candidacy, they'd find a way to keep him out.
 
2012-12-10 03:02:32 PM  

Cyberluddite: ManateeGag: don't you have to live in the state to be a Senator from there? last I checked, Montclair, NJ isn't in SC. that must be some really farking crazy redistricting.

Colbert is from SC, and I believe he still owns a second home there.


isn't there residency requirements?
 
2012-12-10 03:04:27 PM  

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2012-12-10 03:06:05 PM  

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Awesome. Would "save image as..." again.
 
2012-12-10 03:06:37 PM  

ManateeGag: Cyberluddite: ManateeGag: don't you have to live in the state to be a Senator from there? last I checked, Montclair, NJ isn't in SC. that must be some really farking crazy redistricting.

Colbert is from SC, and I believe he still owns a second home there.

isn't there residency requirements?


For how long though. I've seen 6 months in some place I think.
 
2012-12-10 03:07:52 PM  

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2012-12-10 04:12:11 PM  
Er, how the fark would that work? Al Franken is a comedian but outside of character, everyone already knew he was smart, politically active and holding a political science BA from Harvard. I love Colbert, but after he leaves the character and bombast behind, what indication is there that he has real political chops? Or does he run in character?
 
2012-12-10 04:17:02 PM  

Lumpmoose: Er, how the fark would that work? Al Franken is a comedian but outside of character, everyone already knew he was smart, politically active and holding a political science BA from Harvard. I love Colbert, but after he leaves the character and bombast behind, what indication is there that he has real political chops? Or does he run in character?


He testified before Congress in character, so I would have to assume he'd run in character.

But I don't think he'd actually run. Even when he was "running" for president, he (according to interviews afterwards) had a plan to avoid actually doing anything that would substantially alter the outcome. He never intended to actually beat anybody.

Imagine a close vote in the Senate. Would he vote according to what his character would do, or what he actually feels is best?
 
2012-12-10 05:37:49 PM  

Lumpmoose: Er, how the fark would that work? Al Franken is a comedian but outside of character, everyone already knew he was smart, politically active and holding a political science BA from Harvard. I love Colbert, but after he leaves the character and bombast behind, what indication is there that he has real political chops?


To do what he does in interviews, you have to be ludicrously informed.
 
2012-12-10 05:40:31 PM  
I could see Colbert being a serious candidate in a few years. Lefties like me love him and he is a sunday school teacher. That is two huge demographics. If I was South Carolinian, I'd vote for him in a second.
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I'm waiting for this ticket
 
2012-12-10 05:44:28 PM  
It's Democrats and independents- those voters Haley most needs to improve her standing with- who are pining for a Colbert appointment. Among Democrats 32% say they'd like Colbert to be picked with Jenny Sanford at 19% and no one else in double digits. With crucial independent voters Colbert has a 15 point lead for the appointment, getting 28% to 13% for Tim Scott, 12% for Jenny Sanford, and 10% for Trey Gowdy with no one else in double digits.

Lawls! ^_^

Watching Colbert plug himself for the spot on the show last week was some funny stuff indeed but watching the PPP troll the shiat outta the GOP with this poll underscoring their weakness with Indies and moderate Dems is an out and out comedy cavalcade.

There must and shall be popcorn!

*wanders off in search of same*
 
2012-12-10 05:45:34 PM  

sprawl15: Lumpmoose: Er, how the fark would that work? Al Franken is a comedian but outside of character, everyone already knew he was smart, politically active and holding a political science BA from Harvard. I love Colbert, but after he leaves the character and bombast behind, what indication is there that he has real political chops?

To do what he does in interviews, you have to be ludicrously informed.


I like that "ludicrously informed" in 2012 is exactly the same as "the amount of knowledge of current affairs that a typical newspaper-reading citizen would have" as of, say, 1980.
 
2012-12-10 05:45:53 PM  

ordinarysteve: I could see Colbert being a serious candidate in a few years. Lefties like me love him and he is a sunday school teacher. That is two huge demographics. If I was South Carolinian, I'd vote for him in a second.
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I'm waiting for this ticket


Ehh, you have waited too long.
 
2012-12-10 05:46:04 PM  

Uzzah: I like that "ludicrously informed" in 2012 is exactly the same as "the amount of knowledge of current affairs that a typical newspaper-reading citizen would have" as of, say, 1980.


We are talking about politics, here.
 
2012-12-10 05:47:03 PM  
Well somebody Democrat had better fill that hole.

Sick of Republicans. Sick.
 
2012-12-10 05:50:15 PM  

whidbey: Well somebody Democrat had better fill that hole.

Sick of Republicans. Sick.


Republican senator, Republican governor; I'm afraid you'll be sick a little longer.
 
2012-12-10 05:51:34 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Like Nikki Haley is going to pick someone smart to replace DeMint. That would upset the delicate derp balance in the Senate.


She will pick a clone of Jim DeMint. Then the real Jim DeMint and the clone Jim DeMint will help get the second cloned Jim DeMint defeat Lindsey Graham in the Republican primary then go on to win the general election.

/The second cloned Jim DeMint's campaign slogan will be "She touched my Peppy, Steve"
/Obscure? Complain to the other Jiro Dreams of McRibs
 
2012-12-10 05:52:38 PM  

a_bilge_monkey: whidbey: Well somebody Democrat had better fill that hole.

Sick of Republicans. Sick.

Republican senator, Republican governor; I'm afraid you'll be sick a little longer.


I hope they get a medical marijuana initiative on their ballot in the next few years.
 
2012-12-10 05:58:30 PM  
Well from I have seen of the real Stephen Colbert he sounds like he is a liberal catholic in the Kennedy sense so id think the elected republican South Carolina majority would keep him out at all costs

But to see him troll senate republicans would make C-SPAN required viewing. The guy has huge balls that would not have fitted in Donald Trumps big mouth
 
2012-12-10 06:02:53 PM  

whidbey: a_bilge_monkey: whidbey: Well somebody Democrat had better fill that hole.

Sick of Republicans. Sick.

Republican senator, Republican governor; I'm afraid you'll be sick a little longer.

I hope they get a medical marijuana initiative on their ballot in the next few years.


You know, "medicinal" was one of the few legit exceptions to prohibition. I think to have to attach "medicinal" to marijuana use is farcical. Lots of folk self-medicate, (poorly and with often disastrous result), with alcohol. Guilty myself on occasion. But I wouldn't buy another cocktail again in my life if I could walk in to a Circle-K and buy a Copenhagen can sized can of pot now and then. The buzz is mellower, the behavior is more manageable and the long term health effects would save this country trillions. fark "Medical Marijuana". MAKE. IT. LEGAL.
 
2012-12-10 06:03:58 PM  

ordinarysteve: I could see Colbert being a serious candidate in a few years. Lefties like me love him and he is a sunday school teacher. That is two huge demographics. If I was South Carolinian, I'd vote for him in a second.
[media1.teenormous.com image 350x263]
I'm waiting for this ticket


Well, it's unlikely it'll happen in the next 21 days...
 
2012-12-10 06:06:24 PM  

Uzzah: sprawl15: Lumpmoose: Er, how the fark would that work? Al Franken is a comedian but outside of character, everyone already knew he was smart, politically active and holding a political science BA from Harvard. I love Colbert, but after he leaves the character and bombast behind, what indication is there that he has real political chops?

To do what he does in interviews, you have to be ludicrously informed.

I like that "ludicrously informed" in 2012 is exactly the same as "the amount of knowledge of current affairs that a typical newspaper-reading citizen would have" as of, say, 1980.


Rose tinted glasses are awesome, aren't they?
 
2012-12-10 06:09:07 PM  

wxboy: Lumpmoose: Er, how the fark would that work? Al Franken is a comedian but outside of character, everyone already knew he was smart, politically active and holding a political science BA from Harvard. I love Colbert, but after he leaves the character and bombast behind, what indication is there that he has real political chops? Or does he run in character?

He testified before Congress in character, so I would have to assume he'd run in character.

But I don't think he'd actually run. Even when he was "running" for president, he (according to interviews afterwards) had a plan to avoid actually doing anything that would substantially alter the outcome. He never intended to actually beat anybody.

Imagine a close vote in the Senate. Would he vote according to what his character would do, or what he actually feels is best?


He'd vote like the good guy he is, but to stay in character he'd cake it in something like:

"Since I'm a rebel, mavericky, buck-the-Republican-trend, former Alaska Governor, I'm voting with those filthy Democrats! And that's today's Word, folks"
 
2012-12-10 06:09:41 PM  

sprawl15: Uzzah: I like that "ludicrously informed" in 2012 is exactly the same as "the amount of knowledge of current affairs that a typical newspaper-reading citizen would have" as of, say, 1980.

We are talking about politics, here.


Seriously, though, 'informed' is more than just 'knowing things', it's an approach to things. He didn't just report on Citizens United and super PACs and say they're dumb, he (well, his team) dug through the laws, understood them, and figured out how to maneuver through them and execute some of the best reporting I've ever seen. It wasn't, fundamentally, different than most any other reporting on the super PACs, even those basically informed reporters who could detail exactly why the PACs were dumb. But it was showing it, putting action to premise. That is absolutely a ludicrous way of doing things under the public eye, and it's always been rare.
 
2012-12-10 06:11:34 PM  

codergirl42: ordinarysteve: I could see Colbert being a serious candidate in a few years. Lefties like me love him and he is a sunday school teacher. That is two huge demographics. If I was South Carolinian, I'd vote for him in a second.
[media1.teenormous.com image 350x263]
I'm waiting for this ticket

Well, it's unlikely it'll happen in the next 21 days...


I meant them for the presidential elections in 2024 or something..after Hillary has done her 2 terms. I'm Canadian so you guys could just send them up here as well, if you're not gonna use them. I think we could find a sweater-west for one of those bastards.
 
2012-12-10 06:12:30 PM  

mrshowrules: For how long though. I've seen 6 months in some place I think.


It really all depends on what he declares as his "legal residence". After Romney ended his term as Governor of Mass and moved to Utah to handle the Olympics, he sold his house in Boston but kept his "legal residence" as the basement apartment in one of his son's homes.

If Colbert declared SC as his legal residence, that's where he lives, even if he doesn't reside there.
 
2012-12-10 06:13:29 PM  

ordinarysteve: codergirl42:

sweater-vest I mean. My proof-reading is weak

 
2012-12-10 06:15:56 PM  

mrshowrules: ManateeGag: Cyberluddite: ManateeGag: don't you have to live in the state to be a Senator from there? last I checked, Montclair, NJ isn't in SC. that must be some really farking crazy redistricting.

Colbert is from SC, and I believe he still owns a second home there.

isn't there residency requirements?

For how long though. I've seen 6 months in some place I think.


No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen. [U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 3, clause 3]

So as long as Colbert is considered a resident of SC by election day (or the day he's appointed by the Governor) then that's all that's needed.
 
2012-12-10 06:22:24 PM  

ManateeGag: don't you have to live in the state to be a Senator from there? last I checked, Montclair, NJ isn't in SC. that must be some really farking crazy redistricting.


Hillary Clinton, D-Ark.-North, objects to your reasoning.
 
2012-12-10 06:25:34 PM  
If Haley did appoint him, she would instantly become the most popular Republican in the country.
 
2012-12-10 06:28:06 PM  

Uzzah: like that "ludicrously informed" in 2012 is exactly the same as "the amount of knowledge of current affairs that a typical newspaper-reading citizen would have" as of, say, 1980.


Meh.. I think we're all (at least us aggregator junkies) very much more informed than the average newspaper reading 1980's citizen. However, the quality of that information is suspect. You can't just read the New York Times anymore and call yourself an informed citizen. You have to wade through the muck and judge the quality of your sources, demand citations, and be willing to dump bad imitation journalism.
 
2012-12-10 06:30:09 PM  

incendi: Uzzah: like that "ludicrously informed" in 2012 is exactly the same as "the amount of knowledge of current affairs that a typical newspaper-reading citizen would have" as of, say, 1980.

Meh.. I think we're all (at least us aggregator junkies) very much more informed than the average newspaper reading 1980's citizen. However, the quality of that information is suspect. You can't just read the New York Times anymore and call yourself an informed citizen. You have to wade through the muck and judge the quality of your sources, demand citations, and be willing to dump bad imitation journalism.


My level of informed has gone plaid.
 
2012-12-10 06:38:36 PM  
I was actually called the other day to see who I had a favorable opinion of among the choices were Stephen Colbert.
 
2012-12-10 07:06:35 PM  

incendi: You can't just read the New York Times anymore and call yourself an informed citizen


Actually, that's one of the very few single news sources around today where you can still claim that. The Times is still the gold standard in journalism- it's not a crazy liberal mouthpiece just because conservatives don't like facts and can't read that fancy elitist 'not dumbed down to a 7th grade reading level' stuff. The editorial page has its biases, yes, but their hard news is hard news. The Journal used to be similar, but since Murdoch bought it, it's news coverage has moved away from that, though in a sneaky sins of ommission-y way.

In 1980 though, you could read through your local paper and be reasonably well informed. Try doing that today.
 
2012-12-10 07:06:41 PM  
The political process in this country is a joke, and more people are recognizing it as such.
 
2012-12-10 07:11:33 PM  

sprawl15: Lumpmoose: Er, how the fark would that work? Al Franken is a comedian but outside of character, everyone already knew he was smart, politically active and holding a political science BA from Harvard. I love Colbert, but after he leaves the character and bombast behind, what indication is there that he has real political chops?

To do what he does in interviews, you have to be ludicrously informed.


Stephen Colbert is like Ali G. Ali G had the punk persona, but in order to make it work, Sasha Baron Cohen had to be really on the ball and ready to ask the right question the right way and turn on a dime. Same with Colbert.
 
2012-12-10 07:12:51 PM  

mrshowrules: ManateeGag: Cyberluddite: ManateeGag: don't you have to live in the state to be a Senator from there? last I checked, Montclair, NJ isn't in SC. that must be some really farking crazy redistricting.

Colbert is from SC, and I believe he still owns a second home there.

isn't there residency requirements?

For how long though. I've seen 6 months in some place I think.


That's for *running* for office. He's not running. From one of the previous threads on this, apparently South Carolina's are VERY broadly/badly/vaguely written. She's not even NOMINATING someone. It's an out right appointment. The only requirement, iirc, is that he's an American citizen. She's not even bound by nepotism laws. She could put her convicted child rapist brother as the next Senator if she wanted.
 
2012-12-10 07:12:53 PM  

JesusJuice: The political process in this country is a joke, and more people are recognizing it as such.


It's only a joke because two thirds of eligible voters sit on their asses not voting on election day. By not discriminating between choices and just letting predominately ideologically driven voters determine who gain power, the dissatisfied masses are the creators of their own dissatisfaction.
 
2012-12-10 07:33:04 PM  

a_bilge_monkey: whidbey: a_bilge_monkey: whidbey: Well somebody Democrat had better fill that hole.

Sick of Republicans. Sick.

Republican senator, Republican governor; I'm afraid you'll be sick a little longer.

I hope they get a medical marijuana initiative on their ballot in the next few years.

You know, "medicinal" was one of the few legit exceptions to prohibition. I think to have to attach "medicinal" to marijuana use is farcical. Lots of folk self-medicate, (poorly and with often disastrous result), with alcohol. Guilty myself on occasion. But I wouldn't buy another cocktail again in my life if I could walk in to a Circle-K and buy a Copenhagen can sized can of pot now and then. The buzz is mellower, the behavior is more manageable and the long term health effects would save this country trillions. fark "Medical Marijuana". MAKE. IT. LEGAL.


We did in Washington. Recreational, for fun, no "better" reason. Blows my mind that this actually happened in my lifetime. We'll see where it goes.
 
2012-12-10 07:40:28 PM  
And it's pretty farking sad Colbert is the smartest choice.
 
2012-12-10 07:42:54 PM  

Crapinoleum: We did in Washington. Recreational, for fun, no "better" reason. Blows my mind that this actually happened in my lifetime. We'll see where it goes.


I hope we did. So far, all we can legally do is keep the bag if the cops show up. Smoking it, and the things we use to smoke it are still very much illegal. Unless you've got a card. Which is more legal than the law in its present form, but then everything is illegal according to the DEA. Yeah. Confusing.
 
2012-12-10 07:45:21 PM  

Uzzah: sprawl15: Lumpmoose: Er, how the fark would that work? Al Franken is a comedian but outside of character, everyone already knew he was smart, politically active and holding a political science BA from Harvard. I love Colbert, but after he leaves the character and bombast behind, what indication is there that he has real political chops?

To do what he does in interviews, you have to be ludicrously informed.

I like that "ludicrously informed" in 2012 is exactly the same as "the amount of knowledge of current affairs that a typical newspaper-reading citizen would have" as of, say, 1980.


In 1980 a movie cowboy was elected president of the world's most powerful country. It takes a lot of uninformed idiots to allow that to happen.
 
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