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(Vulture)   "The tasteless bombardment that is Les Misérables would, under most circumstances, send audiences screaming from the theater, but the film is going to be a monster hit and award winner, and not entirely unjustly"   (vulture.com) divider line 178
    More: Amusing, Nora Ephron, Victor Hugo, single-parent, William Edelstein, award winners, Andrew Lloyd Webber, comic relief, Hugh Jackman  
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2012-12-10 01:20:31 PM
While I often do agree with his underlying point, there's just something about David Edelstein's writing that makes me want to pour candle wax down his throat.
 
2012-12-10 01:22:31 PM
I was filled with admiration when she hit the big notes and stole the song back from Boyle.

Thank god. I can't stand it when "talented singers" like Boyle do a musical number and don't farking act the part. I don't care how good it sounds, you're supposed to be playing a character. You know, with emotions.
 
2012-12-10 01:26:35 PM
...So, it's a decent movie?
 
2012-12-10 01:33:34 PM

Pocket Ninja: While I often do agree with his underlying point, there's just something about David Edelstein's writing that makes me want to pour candle wax down his throat.


The word you are looking for is "supercilious."
 
2012-12-10 01:38:02 PM

Nabb1: Pocket Ninja: While I often do agree with his underlying point, there's just something about David Edelstein's writing that makes me want to pour candle wax down his throat.

The word you are looking for is "supercilious."


What every good critic is.
 
2012-12-10 01:43:19 PM
It seems that the critic was saying- "I hate musicals, but I relly hate liking this one so much!"
 
2012-12-10 01:44:28 PM
Oh, and there is a rape scene? Really? What the hell?
 
2012-12-10 01:49:28 PM
I'm hoping that a) Anne Hathaway does her own singing, since she's been preappointed and anointed to win Best Actress and b) no other Actress/Supporting Actress gets screwed over to avoid going head-to-head against her.
 
2012-12-10 02:27:29 PM
I'd be amused if Jackman won an Oscar for it.
 
2012-12-10 02:38:12 PM

OtherLittleGuy: I'm hoping that a) Anne Hathaway does her own singing,



The cast not only sang, but sang their parts live on set. They aren't lip synching over recorded vocals like most musical films.
 
2012-12-10 02:53:04 PM
LesMis is one of a class of musicals that defines soulless bombast.
 
2012-12-10 02:57:00 PM

Sybarite: OtherLittleGuy: I'm hoping that a) Anne Hathaway does her own singing,


The cast not only sang, but sang their parts live on set. They aren't lip synching over recorded vocals like most musical films.


You're right. I remember they were talking about that in one of those pre-previews shows at the movies.

Now as long as there isn't a Supporting Actress getting screwed over because an also-ran Actress wants her Nekkid Little Golden Guy.....
 
2012-12-10 03:13:06 PM

DjangoStonereaver: LesMis is one of a class of musicals that defines soulless bombast.


Pretty much this - much ado about nothing. I've seen Les Miz live several times and been equally underwhelmed with each performance. I'd take the Producers any day over this crap...

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2012-12-10 03:15:10 PM
.... and it is going to be AWESOME!

/Les Miz nerd
 
2012-12-10 03:41:46 PM
Hathaway will win many awards for this performance, if for no other reason than the image of her giant mouth will imprint itself indelibly on millions of brains, some belonging to Oscar voters

Now that is funny.
 
2012-12-10 04:33:19 PM
No musical will be a monster hit.
 
2012-12-10 04:36:38 PM

Lollipop165: .... and it is going to be AWESOME!

/Les Miz nerd


I saw Les Miz for the first time in 1986, in January. In London. Yes, the very first London cast, during the very English-speaking first run of the show. If you've never seen a version of it with Colm Wilkinson as Valjean and Roger Allam as Javert, you haven't seen the show. I walked in quite completely ignorant of the show, as our class had scored last-minute tickets that we weren't supposed to have been able to get, and I wasn't terribly up on the theatre at that time. I walked out about three hours later exhausted, with my hands hurting from clapping and my voice sore from cheering. I've only seen it live once since then, but I'm actually looking forward to the movie.
 
2012-12-10 04:41:52 PM

toddalmighty: No musical will be a monster hit.


Chicago did pretty well at the box office and Academy Awards.
 
2012-12-10 04:47:15 PM
My gf is dying to take me to see this, especially since I've never seen any production of Les Mis before (play, movie, nothing). Everything I know about it I learned from watching Jeopardy!

Yeah I'm an uncultured dolt.
 
2012-12-10 04:49:35 PM

Lumpmoose: Thank god. I can't stand it when "talented singers" like Boyle do a musical number and don't farking act the part. I don't care how good it sounds, you're supposed to be playing a character. You know, with emotions.


Boyle singing that song as her dream was coming true on national television is like playing Born in the USA at an "AMERICA, FARK YEAH" rally.
 
2012-12-10 04:51:11 PM

pizen: toddalmighty: No musical will be a monster hit.

Chicago did pretty well at the box office and Academy Awards.


As did Dreamgirls. The notion that musicals are box office poison has been proven false, they just need to be done properly.

I just regret the way they casted Phantom of the Opera. So much wasted potential.
 
2012-12-10 04:56:02 PM
Liam Neeson ruined Les Mis for me, but sadly I'm being dragged to see it anyway.
 
2012-12-10 04:56:47 PM
Samantha Barks is in it, and that's all I need to know.
 
2012-12-10 04:57:16 PM
I'm not big on musicals, but I'll defnitely see one that has French guys getting shot down on the streets of Paris while they sing.
 
2012-12-10 04:59:31 PM

ManateeGag: I'd be amused if Jackman won an Oscar for it.


And yet another X-Men Oscar Winner!
 
2012-12-10 04:59:36 PM

Elzar: DjangoStonereaver: LesMis is one of a class of musicals that defines soulless bombast.

Pretty much this - much ado about nothing. I've seen Les Miz live several times and been equally underwhelmed with each performance. I'd take the Producers any day over this crap...

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This only proves that you are either lying or that you are a farking idiot for seeing it "several times."
 
2012-12-10 05:01:21 PM
I don't go to see a pre-recorded show in order to listen to people miss notes. If I want to see a live show, I will go to see a live show.
 
2012-12-10 05:03:49 PM
Bloody musicals. Never could see the attraction of them on the stage, let alone on film

Now Opera is a different matter. How about der Ring des Niebelungen. Maybe Jackson could have a go, after he's finished Hobbit.
 
2012-12-10 05:03:52 PM
Can't wait!
 
2012-12-10 05:06:38 PM
The article is cheating. He predicts it will be a success, but the original publish date is Dec 17, 2012. He has prior past knowledge.
 
2012-12-10 05:07:51 PM

cenobyte40k: I don't go to see a pre-recorded show in order to listen to people miss notes. If I want to see a live show, I will go to see a live show.


Then don't go?
 
2012-12-10 05:09:35 PM

Sybarite: OtherLittleGuy: I'm hoping that a) Anne Hathaway does her own singing,


The cast not only sang, but sang their parts live on set. They aren't lip synching over recorded vocals like most musical films.


She was all-East US high school choir, so she's actually got a decent set of pipes. The vast majority of the kids in those groups could get into the majority of decent US music schools as long as they're not complete idiots.
 
2012-12-10 05:16:50 PM

toddalmighty: No musical will be a monster hit.


Moulin Rouge did alright.

The musical version of Hairspray made $200 million worldwide, but I'm not sure what the budge was.
 
2012-12-10 05:19:59 PM

dahmers love zombie: Lollipop165: .... and it is going to be AWESOME!

/Les Miz nerd

I saw Les Miz for the first time in 1986, in January. In London. Yes, the very first London cast, during the very English-speaking first run of the show. If you've never seen a version of it with Colm Wilkinson as Valjean and Roger Allam as Javert, you haven't seen the show. I walked in quite completely ignorant of the show, as our class had scored last-minute tickets that we weren't supposed to have been able to get, and I wasn't terribly up on the theatre at that time. I walked out about three hours later exhausted, with my hands hurting from clapping and my voice sore from cheering. I've only seen it live once since then, but I'm actually looking forward to the movie.


I live in NYC. I've seen it on stage easilly over 20 times (after around 15 I stopped counting). And yes, I saw Wilkinson in 1987. Don't remember who was playing Javert though, but I also had the original (and wonderful) Frances Ruffelle as Eponine and Randy Graff as Fantine. Best cast EVAR.

I will say though, year after year I've found the Fantines to get worse and worse.... to the point of disappointment. I think last I saw the show was in the early 2000s.

So yeah, I'm a bigger nerd than you :-)
 
jvl
2012-12-10 05:22:49 PM

Darth_Lukecash: Oh, and there is a rape scene? Really? What the hell?


I'm assuming that the critic was too busy thinking up clever put-downs to notice that the plot included no rape.

Or someone rewrote the musical. I'm going with the first option though.
 
2012-12-10 05:22:53 PM
The problem with Les Miserables and almost every musical since the 1960s is that the songs are shiatty. And that's basically because recorded music meant that songwriters didn't need to write for a musical, they could just write songs. Look at every musical since the 1960s - shiatty songs.
 
2012-12-10 05:23:54 PM

had98c: My gf is dying to take me to see this, especially since I've never seen any production of Les Mis before (play, movie, nothing). Everything I know about it I learned from watching Jeopardy!

Yeah I'm an uncultured dolt.


You don't need to see Les Mis to correct your uncultured status. The hip thing to do is to badmouth Les Mis because people love it and you're just so far above the herd. Uncultured people love Les Mis. People who think themselves cultured take a dump on it, and you don't need to actually watch a show to say that it's bombastic manipulative pablum for the hoi polloi. All you have to do is memorize the phrase "bombastic manipulative pablum for the hoi polloi". Then presto: you're cultured.
 
2012-12-10 05:24:45 PM

farkeruk: The problem with Les Miserables ....is that the songs are shiatty.


FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!
 
jvl
2012-12-10 05:24:51 PM

farkeruk: The problem with Les Miserables and almost every musical since the 1960s is that the songs are shiatty. And that's basically because recorded music meant that songwriters didn't need to write for a musical, they could just write songs. Look at every musical since the 1960s - shiatty songs.


Were you edgy before it was hip to be edgy?
 
2012-12-10 05:27:07 PM
So since I haven't lived near broadway all my life, I usually watch the movie then see the musical if I like it. Surprisingly my favorite movie and musical is Phantom, despite only a 33% on RT. Yeah, I'm thinking critics suck at rating musicals but maybe thats just me.
 
2012-12-10 05:27:45 PM
I'm having a theatregasm just thinking about this movie...my local company got the rights to the play and will be producing it next summer.
 
2012-12-10 05:28:17 PM
I had the pleasure of seeing Hugh Jackman in "The Boy from Oz" so I know he can sing. Most people don't realize that Wolverine has a Tony and an Emmy for his singing and dancing. All he needs is a Grammy and an Oscar and his life won't be an entire failure.
 
2012-12-10 05:28:36 PM
farking hell, it's a musical?
 
2012-12-10 05:30:47 PM

Darth_Lukecash: Oh, and there is a rape scene? Really? What the hell?


Is it a legitimate rape? Todd Akin wants to know.
 
2012-12-10 05:31:34 PM
Saw the film, loved it. Edelstein is a cranky old biatch who has been reviewing movies waaaaay too long.
 
2012-12-10 05:32:04 PM

jvl: Darth_Lukecash: Oh, and there is a rape scene? Really? What the hell?

I'm assuming that the critic was too busy thinking up clever put-downs to notice that the plot included no rape.

Or someone rewrote the musical. I'm going with the first option though.


There are a few different reviews that mention Fontaine is raped after getting her hair cut off. I guess they could all be wrong.
 
2012-12-10 05:32:21 PM
No, thank you.
 
2012-12-10 05:33:32 PM

toddalmighty: No musical will be a monster hit.


The Sound of Music
The Producers
Oliver
Seven Brides
Singin in the Rain
The Music Man
Chicago
Carousel
Gypsy
Paint Your Wagon
Guys and Dolls......

Yah, you're right on target there, Skippy
 
2012-12-10 05:34:19 PM

jvl: Were you edgy before it was hip to be edgy?


Tell me I'm wrong. Show me a musical produced since the early 1970s with as many hummable tunes as Rodgers and Hammerstein, The Sherman Brothers or Lerner and Loewe stuffed into a musical.
 
2012-12-10 05:34:45 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Moulin Rouge did alright.


Moulin Rouge was the only musical I've ever seen that I loved. The closest runner-up is Spamelot, which was amusing but meh.
 
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