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2012-12-10 10:31:51 AM
7 votes:
The nurse killing herself wasn't a reason to cancel the show. Misrepresenting themselves in order to acquire private medical information, however, yeah. Cya.
2012-12-10 10:34:03 AM
6 votes:
I imagine the nurse was going to lose her job for giving patient info to unverified persons.

Never, never fark with a person's livelihood.
2012-12-10 10:28:58 AM
5 votes:
There are innocent prank calls, and there are 'dick' prank calls.

If you make an innocent prank call and someone kills themselves over it, that's not on your conscience. That's what happened here.
2012-12-10 11:11:06 AM
3 votes:
As I heard it from an Australian... first thing that woke up the radio station execs (who had previously been supportive) was when advertisers started pulling their ads.
Then the execs found out that the DJs/staff also didn't follow the protocol whereby they were supposed to get a release to air any voice of private citizens. (Apparently you can air people who call in, or spoof celebs and not have to get a release, but if you call private citizens you cannot air their responses w/out authorization of some kind) The radio staff said they 'tried 5 times' to followup, to get the release, but never got thru.
So it appears that the station staff is also in hot water for airing it w/out the standard releases, regardless of whatever else happened.

/What kind of idiots 'prank' people who are in the hospital, anyway? Dopes.
//no wonder the couple tried to keep the pregnancy a secret in the first place
///betting those DJs never pranked the hospital where Prince Phillip was in for surgery last summer.
////Should DJs get to decide when an illness is not serious enough & therefore 'prankable'?...
2012-12-10 10:51:35 AM
3 votes:
I'm not a fan of morning zoo type shows, I've always felt uncomfortable with the bullying aspect of prank calls. The whole point of it is to humiliate a stranger. Stapling your room mate's clothes to the ceiling is a prank, contacting a hospital to try to fraudulently acquire patient information isn't a prank, it's tasteless and illegal. The smallest amount of common sense should have told them that someone was going to get in trouble about it.

There is no possible way they could have known the mental state of the person they were calling, and yet they still went ahead and did it anyway. If you don't know the person well enough to know they will find it funny and won't be upset about it then you shouldn't be doing it. It's irresponsible. As for the station owners claiming the DJs are the victims here, that's just stupid beyond belief.
2012-12-10 10:50:39 AM
3 votes:
Oh, and I believe there is a segment of the population who should share the blame for the nurses death...you Royalty-loving douchebags who were calling for her head right after it happened. The paparazzi didn't kill Princess Diana, it was YOU, with your insatiable lust for candid pictures of her. You are the clowns who this nurse worried about when she was tormenting herslef over the mistake. You are the people who the hospital was going to be appeasing by firing her. Now, you've pulled your fangs back in because she killed herself and you direct your anger towards the DJs. But, we both know the truth. If this woman had not committed suicide, you would have wished her dead.
2012-12-10 12:39:11 PM
2 votes:

eddiesocket: Spiralmonkey: eddiesocket: Spiralmonkey: It seems as though there must have been other factors, but as I said above, they had no idea of the mental state of the person they were calling but went ahead and did it anyway.

You're honestly suggesting that the DJs shoud've somehow anticipated that something like this might happen?

No. Like I said, they had no idea of the mental state of the person they were calling. They didn't now if she was bi polar, depressed, whatever. They had no idea of how their actions would affect her. That is what I said, twice. I'm not sure I can be any clearer. They had no idea of the mental state of the person they were calling but went ahead and did it anyway.

And yet your tone suggests you believe that they should've at least considered that possibility, correct? That this hospital might hire mentally unstable and highly gullible people.. Am I getting that right?


You don't think there's the outside possibility that if you are involving a stranger in a situation that will lead to public humiliation they may not find it as hilarious as you do? If you can't see that maybe, just maybe, if one of the victims of the 'prank' might not be thrilled with it, you shouldn't be doing it. Otherwise it's bullying.

Like I said above, if you know the person and know that they will find it funny and won't be offended that's different, but humiliating a complete stranger and it doesn't occur to you that since you don't know them or their mental state there may be a downside to your hilarious humiliation?
2012-12-10 11:29:42 AM
2 votes:

van1ty: There are innocent prank calls, and there are 'dick' prank calls.

If you make an innocent prank call and someone kills themselves over it, that's not on your conscience. That's what happened here.


I wouldn't call trying to gain access to someone's private medical information and then releasing that medical information over the public airwaves "an innocent prank". Is that just me?
2012-12-10 11:27:26 AM
2 votes:
Protip: if nobody is laughing except for you, it's not a prank, it's what's known as a "dick move."

Sorry you made the decision to pull a dick move. Not sorry you have to face consequences for it.

p.s. good luck finding work now, douchebags.
2012-12-10 11:18:23 AM
2 votes:
When did we come up with adults who think practical jokes are "harmless", or "innocent? I knew better before I was fifteen. Practical jokes are sociopathic in and of themselves - they involve deceit and the willingness to subject another to unforeseeable consequences. There are no innocent or harmless practical jokes.
2012-12-10 11:17:05 AM
2 votes:
It's 5 am, and you don't necessarily have a great command of the english language (Jacintha had only been resident in the UK for 9 years, before that Muscat..and then before that India) and certainly wouldn't be able to accurately gauge an accent over a phone.

Try it yourself...play an audio recording of a famous bollywood actor, and then some average indian in the street...you won't be able to tell the difference.

Jacintha didn't give out the info...but christ, even if you have a slight self belief wobble, your imagined future is going to be 'all of my colleagues are going to take the piss from now until eternity for letting that call thru'..irrespective of whether thats true or not.

Pranks like this, are COMPLETELY unacceptable, it's just bullying on a grand scale.
2012-12-10 10:29:37 AM
2 votes:
I hope they get Jeff Bridges to play the DJ in the movie version of this.
2012-12-10 10:29:26 AM
2 votes:
It's sad and all but who the fark kills them self over something stupid like this? There had to be more going on with that woman and this just pushed her over the edge.
2012-12-10 10:28:41 AM
2 votes:
I hope the station owners don't hurt themselves, what with the jerking knees and all.
2012-12-11 08:21:37 AM
1 votes:

van1ty: There are innocent prank calls, and there are 'dick' prank calls.

If you make an innocent prank call and someone kills themselves over it, that's not on your conscience. That's what happened here.


Except that it's illegal to record a call without informing the other party. And that's true in both jurisdictions.
2012-12-10 10:21:51 PM
1 votes:

TalkShowGeek: Is this still fark?

You know the place where people mock sick children and dead people?

You idiots are actually mad about this?

The only medical info they got was that she wasn't puking and was feeling better.

This thread is pathetic.


I think you're confusing Fark with /b/

Fark generally mocks assholes. I'll happily mock you when you die, because you sound like an asshole.
2012-12-10 08:48:34 PM
1 votes:
This prank, and others done by various DJs (look up Glen Beck's hilarious idea of a 'miscarriage' prank from when he was a DJ), have left me think that the most unrealistic thing about The Fisher King was when Jeff Bridges had an attack of conscience over the consequences of his actions.
2012-12-10 08:13:45 PM
1 votes:

moel: ExcaliburPrime111: I suppose that from a PR standpoint, this was inevitable, and the loss of human life for any reason is always tragic.

BUT,

Nothing these two goof balls did warranted that poor nurse to take her own life. There were almost certainly other factors that led to her death, perhaps pre-existing emotional, mental, and physical problems. We will know more about the precise causes of her death when the inquest is complete. At any rate, a harmless prank with no real malice has turned into an awful situation, but I don't really believe the radio show presenters did anything particularly contemptible.

As has already been said, EXCEPT the bit about y'know, attempting to break patient doctor confidentiality, being guilty of fraud, and all that other stuff.

100% dick move by the radio station. How would you like it if someone 'playing a prank' resulted in the possibility of you losing YOUR job? (and being struck off by the medical registrar, meaning you will NEVER get a job in your chosen career again)

Yes it probably was 'the straw that broke the camels back' but that doesn't excuse what those presenters did. It was nothing but scraping the bottom of the barrel 'entertainment'...and some poor sod and their family paid the price with one death and interminable misery ahead.


Since when have morning "djs" on radio stations not been dicks? It's pretty much what they're paid to do.

She wasn't going to lose her job over this. Sympathy was on her side. She could be speaking out against the pranksters and public opinion would be totally with her.

Even if you lose your job, it's no reason to commit suicide. Hell, I could commit suicide tomorrow and if you said something mean to me on Fark should you feel responsible? Hint: No, you shouldn't.

There was something else going on with this woman and while this may have been the straw that broke the camel's back, it was just a straw. I could go to McDonald's and have an overcooked burger and that could send me over the edge. Would that mean it was McDonald's fault that I committed suicide? (Hint: The answer is no)

Why aren't people asking the hospital why they were employing an obviously unstable woman in a position of trust?
2012-12-10 03:26:05 PM
1 votes:

farkinfilipino: eh, this particular radio station had it coming, especially if you're the kind of station that forces young teens to admit on the air that they were raped.


Wow. Well considering they were already on probation for that disgusting display I hope they lose their license. That's despicable.
2012-12-10 02:25:04 PM
1 votes:

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: Prank? Pranks are funny.


Prank calls are always at the expense of the person being fooled - I've never found that type of humour even slightly amusing.

/and get off my lawn while you're at it
2012-12-10 01:11:26 PM
1 votes:

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: I hope the station owners don't hurt themselves, what with the jerking knees and all.


Oh, fark you, and your childish attitude. A woman KILLED herself over this and you see nothing wrong with punishing the perpetrators.

The idea that 'it's for fun' is just plain bullshiate as morons like and the djs prove.
2012-12-10 12:29:05 PM
1 votes:

eddiesocket: maddermaxx: Bingo. Prank calling a hospital, pretending to be a relative and getting a nurse to reveal private info on a patient is a dick move.

It's not a "dick move". It's something that happens all the time in hospitals, and people who are employed there shouldn't be falling for it.


People ring up hospitals pretending to be someone's grandmother all the time? Bullshiat. The nurse wouldn't have given very private information out, but a grandmother asking if someone's ok won't usually be greeted with a curt "fark off".

And you're honestly saying it's NOT a dick move to do so? They shouldn't have asked, it was unethical to do so while pretending to be a relative, and unethical to play the tape when a night duty nurse did make a mistake and let something slip. Unless you're of the opinion that people trying to hoax or lie to others are never at fault, and it's 100% the fault of those who got taken it.

Nurse let something slip by accident, and that should be reviewed. Stupid radio station set up a deception deliberately to try and get information on a patient, and that should be loudly decried.
2012-12-10 12:21:33 PM
1 votes:

eddiesocket: Spiralmonkey: It seems as though there must have been other factors, but as I said above, they had no idea of the mental state of the person they were calling but went ahead and did it anyway.

You're honestly suggesting that the DJs shoud've somehow anticipated that something like this might happen?


No. Like I said, they had no idea of the mental state of the person they were calling. They didn't now if she was bi polar, depressed, whatever. They had no idea of how their actions would affect her. That is what I said, twice. I'm not sure I can be any clearer. They had no idea of the mental state of the person they were calling but went ahead and did it anyway.
2012-12-10 11:59:33 AM
1 votes:
brimed03: I imagine the nurse was going to lose her job for giving patient info to unverified persons.
Sentient Yep, and likely lose any credentialing she'd received for breaking client confidentiality. She may have gotten some leniency, but given the target, I suspect the royal family would have more likely made an example out of her. She wouldn't have worked in health care again.

WTF? There's loads of stuff like this on this thread.
The royals don't run the medical establishment here. Nor is there any reason to suppose the hospital, the royals or anybody else was about to have a go at this nurse, far less any proof for that. If anything the royals were trying to laugh it off.
The nurse is dead and I and many others feel shiat for her, I guess she was a good person and held herself to high standards. Maybe also she thought this crap stunt was more significant than it actually was.
2012-12-10 11:40:04 AM
1 votes:
Fark them. Karma is a biatch. I hope their Christmas is ruined as well.
2012-12-10 11:28:11 AM
1 votes:

Broktun: Doom MD: Screw with someone's livelihood? Seriously? Medical staff should not be giving protected medical information to any mouth-breathing jabroney that asks for it over the phone.

Do the Brits have HIPAA?


Different system. The UK has universal healthcare so the insurance company part isn't necessary. Briefly, the relevant part from medicalprotection.org:

Confidentiality is usually referred to as an ethical issue. It is, but it is also a legal principle.

NHS employees will find a confidentiality clause in their contract.
There is a common-law duty to preserve professional confidence.
There are requirements under the Data Protection Act 1998 to keep personal data, including medical records, secure.
It is a condition of registration to abide by GMC guidance, which includes a requirement to respect patient confidentiality.

Discussing a patient's care with relatives can be problematic. In general, the information should be given to the patient, who can then pass it on to the family as he sees fit, but it would be extremely callous for a doctor to refuse to say anything to concerned relatives. If the patient is conscious and able to make decisions, the simplest thing is to ask whether he's happy for you to talk to the relatives and, if so, how much you may tell them.
2012-12-10 11:27:55 AM
1 votes:
I used to produce a morning radio show. All of our prank calls were done off air so that we could edit out swear words and gain the permission of the person to air the call after it was revealed that it was indeed a prank and that they were winning X prize. This also allowed to avoid situations like this.
2012-12-10 11:12:13 AM
1 votes:

fireclown: Isn't there some kind of verification for VIPS just to prevent that kind of thing? Some kind of royal family CEOI or something? I would think that this happens about twenty times every time any member of the royal family goes to the hospital for anything.


Yeah, aparrently standard procedure would have all calls about a Royal family member go to an aide, but apparently that didn't happen properly, probably because it was 5:30 am, so there's no regular reception staff working (thusly why a nurse was answering phones), and probably because at that time after a night shift, you're probably more likely to forget specific protocols for everything.
2012-12-10 10:57:20 AM
1 votes:

Sentient: brimed03: I imagine the nurse was going to lose her job for giving patient info to unverified persons.

Never, never fark with a person's livelihood.

Yep, and likely lose any credentialing she'd received for breaking client confidentiality. She may have gotten some leniency, but given the target, I suspect the royal family would have more likely made an example out of her. She wouldn't have worked in health care again.

Add to that the fact that she probably spent all day telling everyone that she's personally spoken to royalty. Way up high one day, career-ending tragedy the next.

She must have already been depressed, but I can see how that would send someone over the edge.


She didn't break any confidentiality - she answered the phone and passed the call along to the nurse who was directly involved. The hospital assured both nurses that neither would lose their job. The royals didn't seem to be too bothered by it. It seems as though there must have been other factors, but as I said above, they had no idea of the mental state of the person they were calling but went ahead and did it anyway.
2012-12-10 10:52:53 AM
1 votes:
In the USA, at least, it could be Queen Elizabeth herself on the phone, but unless Kate expressly requests it, you cannot give her info about the patient.
2012-12-10 10:48:34 AM
1 votes:
Good... pranks should be funny... pretending to be the royals could be funny... but doing it so you can embarass a nurse by way of her naivety in order to fraudulently obtain private medical information... that's not funny. It was a dick move, and those two idiots should be ashamed of themselves.
2012-12-10 10:44:41 AM
1 votes:

brimed03: I imagine the nurse was going to lose her job for giving patient info to unverified persons.

Never, never fark with a person's livelihood.


I dunno...anyone dumb enough to fall for an Austrian male impersonating Queen Elizabeth might just be too dumb to hold down a job that sensitive.
2012-12-10 10:44:16 AM
1 votes:

brimed03: I imagine the nurse was going to lose her job for giving patient info to unverified persons.

Never, never fark with a person's livelihood.


Yep, and likely lose any credentialing she'd received for breaking client confidentiality. She may have gotten some leniency, but given the target, I suspect the royal family would have more likely made an example out of her. She wouldn't have worked in health care again.

Add to that the fact that she probably spent all day telling everyone that she's personally spoken to royalty. Way up high one day, career-ending tragedy the next.

She must have already been depressed, but I can see how that would send someone over the edge.
2012-12-10 10:42:24 AM
1 votes:

LowbrowDeluxe: The nurse killing herself wasn't a reason to cancel the show. Misrepresenting themselves in order to acquire private medical information, however, yeah. Cya.


Bingo. Prank calling a hospital, pretending to be a relative and getting a nurse to reveal private info on a patient is a dick move.

Plus, it may well have broken some phone laws, as they did not inform the nurses they were being recorded, which is what's being investigated. Very few people are soley blaming the hosts for the suicide, there are always other factors involved with that sort of thing, but the whole thing was still a dick move by the show (producers/managers as well as the hosts), and they shouldn't have played it.
2012-12-10 10:35:42 AM
1 votes:

Jeremysbrain: I just don't get how this is the DJ's fault. She was so embarresed by a innocent prank call that she had to kill herself? There had to be something else going on with this woman for her to kill herself.


I wouldn't necessarily call a prank designed to humiliate the targets as 'innocent'.

/Still don't think she off-ed herself purely because of it though
2012-12-10 10:35:39 AM
1 votes:
this was just a really stupid prank, and they should have pulled the ripcord when they realized they were going to actually get private medical data on the future Queen. They needed to realize they were crossing a line.
2012-12-10 10:35:33 AM
1 votes:

JustinCase: The nurse that took the phone call killed herself, right?


No

the reception nurse that took the prank phone call, and passed it onto a nurse, *may have committed suicide*

As I hear it, the nurse who died probably spent 10 seconds on the call and did not give away any info, she simply passed the call on to the ward nurse
2012-12-10 10:34:49 AM
1 votes:

abhorrent1: It's sad and all but who the fark kills them self over something stupid like this? There had to be more going on with that woman and this just pushed her over the edge.


True, however even though they meant no real harm, it's become a PR disaster for the station. Not sure it's a career ender for them, but they may want to rebrand with new air names. I'd go with " Queeny" and "Killer".
2012-12-10 10:32:43 AM
1 votes:
Prank? Pranks are funny.
2012-12-10 10:31:55 AM
1 votes:
I just don't get how this is the DJ's fault. She was so embarresed by a innocent prank call that she had to kill herself? There had to be something else going on with this woman for her to kill herself.
2012-12-10 10:29:55 AM
1 votes:
I suppose that from a PR standpoint, this was inevitable, and the loss of human life for any reason is always tragic.

BUT,

Nothing these two goof balls did warranted that poor nurse to take her own life. There were almost certainly other factors that led to her death, perhaps pre-existing emotional, mental, and physical problems. We will know more about the precise causes of her death when the inquest is complete. At any rate, a harmless prank with no real malice has turned into an awful situation, but I don't really believe the radio show presenters did anything particularly contemptible.
2012-12-10 10:28:47 AM
1 votes:
Sad dingo, is sad.
 
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