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(ABC)   Man has been suffering from amnesia since being discovered naked, unresponsive and covered with fire ant bites behind a Burger King dumpster in August 2004. Remember that the next time you think you're having a bad day   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 90
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2012-12-10 11:09:29 AM
Illegal alien!

Did they check him for a belly button?
 
2012-12-10 11:10:28 AM
I know, I know.....

i94.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-10 11:14:08 AM
Naked, unresponsive, and covered with fire ant bites is no way to go through life, son.
 
2012-12-10 11:16:55 AM
So nasty that fire ants left him out by the dumpster?
 
2012-12-10 11:18:12 AM

tetsoushima: [www.filmoria.co.uk image 390x116]

[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]

Time travel is a biatch.


OK if you're going to post that then I reply with.....

i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-12-10 11:24:46 AM
If you wake up naked behind the Burger King, it's probably a blessing that you don't remember anything.

/Sir, regardless of your strong belief, I doubt the massive rectal tearing is congenital.
 
2012-12-10 11:26:20 AM

Snort: This is a hoax.


Link

A few years ago, a Website called Websleuths began pouring in hours into the Benjaman Kyle story, trying to solve the case. One day, a moderator proclaimed, it was a hoax- due to some discrepancies between the reports of how he was found. Here's a quote from Neil Forsyth's article in The Guardian.

"In 2007 Kyle became one of the site's most popular cases until, on 3 April, Griffith posted a 350-word entry claiming that she and others had evidence Kyle wasn't beaten and so was a fraud. The 18-page discussion that followed contained two pieces of apparent evidence. The first was that Richmond Hill police had told a Websleuths member Kyle was not unconscious when found and was able to talk but chose not to do so.
However, Harold Copus, an investigator with more than a decade's experience as an FBI case manager, who was brought in by the Dr Phil show to look into Kyle's story, supports his version of events. "I spoke to the EMTs [paramedics], Burger King staff and responding police officers. Not only was Kyle unconscious when he was found, they thought he was dead." Copus confirms that Kyle's fingerprints have been checked against the FBI's files on both criminal and civil cases, the most comprehensive search possible. Kyle also cooperated with a linguist (who agreed that a midwest background was likely) and Copus talks about taking Kyle to an "expensive doctor in Atlanta" who reviewed "Kyle's medical situation from the moment he was found".

In my own research for the documentary, I tried to obtain the original police reports from the Richmond Hill Police Department. Sadly, they no longer exist. And when you do look at the information provided by websleuths, there do seem to be differences between the stories, but more disturbingly, the original report is gone.

Because of the strange circumstances of the case, proper care was not taken on the crime scene, or for the subsequent paperwork. To this day, it is used as an example to police trainees in Georgia on how to not conduct a crime scene. So, yes, Websleuth's conclusion that some of the details are hazy is correct, since the case was not given the proper documentation. But their conclusion, that this man is faking his condition, and doesn't know who he is, is not.
 
2012-12-10 11:27:27 AM
Some say its a hoax... HOW? No one has seen him and come forward and exposed him then. Its not like he is a millionaire from it. He is not hiding from someone either.

What would be the point and the people in that HOAX thread from that website have nothing to base their argument on.
 
2012-12-10 11:32:04 AM
The Internet is banding together in search of the identity of a man who does not know who he is.

No, we aren't. We like to keep the mystery.
 
2012-12-10 11:32:12 AM
he may have initially had amnesia, but he doesn't anymore. he knows who he is, but he isn't all that happy with his former life as a lonely, homeless man. now he's just an attention whore trying to get his fake name out there and see whatever free stuff can be provided for him. he likes to tell this story for sympathy and you're all falling for it.

/i don't actually have any idea what i'm talking about
 
2012-12-10 11:33:52 AM
'He has been fingerprinted more than five times by the FBI with no luck.'
I think the 6th time will be a charm.
 
2012-12-10 11:36:09 AM

XanthPrime: Snort: This is a hoax.

Link

A few years ago, a Website called Websleuths began pouring in hours into the Benjaman Kyle story, trying to solve the case. One day, a moderator proclaimed, it was a hoax- due to some discrepancies between the reports of how he was found. Here's a quote from Neil Forsyth's article in The Guardian.

"In 2007 Kyle became one of the site's most popular cases until, on 3 April, Griffith posted a 350-word entry claiming that she and others had evidence Kyle wasn't beaten and so was a fraud. The 18-page discussion that followed contained two pieces of apparent evidence. The first was that Richmond Hill police had told a Websleuths member Kyle was not unconscious when found and was able to talk but chose not to do so.
However, Harold Copus, an investigator with more than a decade's experience as an FBI case manager, who was brought in by the Dr Phil show to look into Kyle's story, supports his version of events. "I spoke to the EMTs [paramedics], Burger King staff and responding police officers. Not only was Kyle unconscious when he was found, they thought he was dead." Copus confirms that Kyle's fingerprints have been checked against the FBI's files on both criminal and civil cases, the most comprehensive search possible. Kyle also cooperated with a linguist (who agreed that a midwest background was likely) and Copus talks about taking Kyle to an "expensive doctor in Atlanta" who reviewed "Kyle's medical situation from the moment he was found".

In my own research for the documentary, I tried to obtain the original police reports from the Richmond Hill Police Department. Sadly, they no longer exist. And when you do look at the information provided by websleuths, there do seem to be differences between the stories, but more disturbingly, the original report is gone.

Because of the strange circumstances of the case, proper care was not taken on the crime scene, or for the subsequent paperwork. To this day, it is used as an example to police t ...



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The story is repeated until it becomes true.

The guy got what he wanted, a fresh start and now notoriety.

You don't have to listen to me, though, I am a life long cynic. This case sets off my stink meter.
 
2012-12-10 11:39:44 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaspar_Hauser

Kasper Hauser
 
2012-12-10 11:40:39 AM

Snort: a fresh start and now notoriety


Those seem to be mutually exclusive.
 
2012-12-10 11:44:36 AM

xcv: No mention of how the websleuths board considers this to be a hoax? Part of their claim is that the initial police report, medical exam and interview with responding officer all claim there was no sign of physical injury on Kyle while he keeps playing up the 'near death,' serious injury aspect in the documentaries.


Outside and naked in winter could easily have one be near death without any outward physical trauma.

Just FYI.
 
2012-12-10 11:44:47 AM
a fully grown prom night dumpster baby
 
2012-12-10 11:47:55 AM
This guy did an AMA on reddit awhile back.

There were multiple redditors that remember seeing someone similar working as a maintenance man for Waffle House.

Ben Kyle never responded to those questions/comments. Others are following up on the clues.

Link to AMA on reddit
 
2012-12-10 11:51:14 AM
Since he's not in the US files, anyone thought about trying Canadian or European databases?

Still sounds awfully fishy to me.
 
2012-12-10 11:51:49 AM
Well, as long as it was only bites and not stings, he's fine, I'm sure.
 
2012-12-10 11:56:10 AM

Null Pointer: This guy did an AMA on reddit awhile back.

There were multiple redditors that remember seeing someone similar working as a maintenance man for Waffle House.

Ben Kyle never responded to those questions/comments. Others are following up on the clues.

Link to AMA on reddit


That's mentioned in TFA, and there's a blurb about how he worked at a kitchen and 'instinctually' knew how to repair and operate things there, so he thinks the Reddit folks are onto something.
 
2012-12-10 12:00:31 PM
Did anybody even stop to consider that he's bat shiat farking crazy? The reason that no one claims him is because of that fact? That he does know who he is?
 
2012-12-10 12:02:41 PM

WarszawaScream: That's mentioned in TFA, and there's a blurb about how he worked at a kitchen and 'instinctually' knew how to repair and operate things there, so he thinks the Reddit folks are onto something.


Or it could be that he simply has an aptitude for mechanical systems, which could also mean he's a self taught software developer, for instance. So I don't think they are on to something, personally. On to a rabbit hole, sure...
 
2012-12-10 12:23:54 PM

special20: WarszawaScream: That's mentioned in TFA, and there's a blurb about how he worked at a kitchen and 'instinctually' knew how to repair and operate things there, so he thinks the Reddit folks are onto something.

Or it could be that he simply has an aptitude for mechanical systems, which could also mean he's a self taught software developer, for instance. So I don't think they are on to something, personally. On to a rabbit hole, sure...


maybe he's the secret creator of FARK.COM
 
2012-12-10 12:28:13 PM
it's gerald mcraney from simon and simon
i295.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-10 12:45:10 PM

gingerjet: FTFA They aren't eligible for health insurance, can't pay rent or get a driver's license.

Why? All he needs is a job to pay rent. And all he needs to do is to prove he can drive to get a license.

He has been told that because of the presumption that he was given a Social Security number at some point, he cannot get another one.

Bullshiat. People get a new SSN all the time due to identity theft.

/I'm sympathetic to the guy but the article is poorly researched


There are a few rare instances where a new SSN can be issued, identity theft is one of them (only if the person continues to be disadvantaged by using the original number), however amnesia is not.
 
2012-12-10 12:49:20 PM

Snort: This is a hoax.


Well I guess that settles that. After all, if it's posted on an internet forum then it must be true.
 
2012-12-10 01:16:40 PM
Sounds like 'Monday' to me.
 
2012-12-10 02:06:22 PM

ReapTheChaos: Snort: This is a hoax.

Well I guess that settles that. After all, if it's posted on an internet forum then it must be true.


Much like the article linked!
 
2012-12-10 02:13:01 PM

Snort: This case sets off my stink meter.


Mine as well, at first, but the fact that no one has come forward to conclusively debunk him makes me wonder. If this were just a hoax, the dude would have had to have been a near recluse prior to beginning it, as someone should have outed him by now, right?
 
2012-12-10 02:20:38 PM

gingerjet: FTFA They aren't eligible for health insurance, can't pay rent or get a driver's license.

Why? All he needs is a job to pay rent. And all he needs to do is to prove he can drive to get a license.

He has been told that because of the presumption that he was given a Social Security number at some point, he cannot get another one.

Bullshiat. People get a new SSN all the time due to identity theft.

/I'm sympathetic to the guy but the article is poorly researched


Try getting a real job without a SSN. Moreover, if an employer is paying you under the table they are NOT going to give you a letter of employment so you can get an apartment.

Also most landlords do a background check, how can you do a background check on someone without a past?
 
2012-12-10 02:57:35 PM
TFA doesn't say if they've ever run his DNA through CODIS. It won't ID him if he doesn't have a criminal record, but it might provide a pointer to a relative.
 
2012-12-10 03:36:29 PM
Something very, very fishy here.
 
2012-12-10 05:51:24 PM

Smoky Dragon Dish: Did anybody even stop to consider that he's bat shiat farking crazy? The reason that no one claims him is because of that fact? That he does know who he is?


If he were batshiat farking crazy the chances are he would have ended up in an institution or a jail cell by now. If the police are called to deal with a man found unconscious, naked and covered in fire ant bites behind a burger king then they probably aren't working on the assumption that it's a sane, law abiding member of society. Either way, he's been sane enough to stay out of trouble and function on his own.
 
2012-12-10 06:49:07 PM
Came for/during the Humpty Dance, leaving sore and inebriated.
 
2012-12-10 09:17:39 PM
Naked guy found behind a dumpster?

www.jamescamerononline.com

We are SO screwed.
 
2012-12-10 09:23:00 PM
animesucks
2012-12-10 11:32:12 AM
he may have initially had amnesia, but he doesn't anymore. he knows who he is, but he isn't all that happy with his former life as a lonely, homeless man. now he's just an attention whore trying to get his fake name out there and see whatever free stuff can be provided for him. he likes to tell this story for sympathy and you're all falling for it.

/i don't actually have any idea what i'm talking about


I was a member at WS still am... but this was the gist of it. He did not want his old life because he was quite happy with his new one.
 
2012-12-11 12:40:52 AM
There is a video floating around of him, pre-amnesia, but he doesn't reveal his name in the video.
 
2012-12-11 01:04:41 AM
Isn't that an old Scott Thompson character?

Must have escaped from his repertoire.

You know the one I mean.
 
2012-12-11 02:27:07 AM

brantgoose: Isn't that an old Scott Thompson character?

Must have escaped from his repertoire.

You know the one I mean.


Yep, but then one day he woke up behind a Burger King dumpster.
 
2012-12-11 10:22:37 AM

Cybernetic: TFA doesn't say if they've ever run his DNA through CODIS. It won't ID him if he doesn't have a criminal record, but it might provide a pointer to a relative.


I don't think they do that just whily-nily, also I think "looking for a relative" is a violation of privacy rights. You can get an FBI background fingerprint clearance for 18 bucks. I just had to get mine for Canadian Immigration so I know.
 
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