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2012-12-10 09:56:10 AM
Well, I was all about to go all "Damned bath salts" on this guy, but this happened before bath salts, so..........
 
2012-12-10 10:18:32 AM
Dad?
 
2012-12-10 10:33:35 AM
Just hit him over the head. That should clear things up.
 
2012-12-10 10:33:47 AM
Has he shown any ninja skills?
 
2012-12-10 10:34:00 AM
yeah, I never want to do that again.
 
2012-12-10 10:34:07 AM
So does he carry a notepad to remind him of everything (name, ect..) just in case.
 
2012-12-10 10:34:57 AM
I once got amnesia in a Burger King bathroom...

/I'm a freak
// l like the girls with the boom
 
2012-12-10 10:35:56 AM
My friend just interviewed this guy and the documentary filmmaker making the movie about him. Pretty interesting. WorstShowOnTheWeb.com
 
2012-12-10 10:36:39 AM
Pretty sure I wouldn't want to remember what led me to that situation.
 
2012-12-10 10:36:57 AM
Forgive me if this is out of line, but should they perhaps go check with any local meth or crack houses?

I mean, what is the likelihood that a normal productive member of society (who would have at least one of a. friends, b. family, c. employer) who would have had somebody put out a notice on him going missing.
 
2012-12-10 10:37:00 AM
he ordered the Whopper?
 
2012-12-10 10:38:24 AM
That's Clay Morrow.
 
2012-12-10 10:39:01 AM
^he was a

grammar fail
 
2012-12-10 10:39:45 AM
Wasn't this a Gilligan's Island plot?
 
2012-12-10 10:40:03 AM
John Wheeler, back from the dead?
 
2012-12-10 10:41:16 AM
You had me until "fire ants"
 
2012-12-10 10:41:20 AM
Some roofer started using my EIN for about 2 years, he should certainly stick to building/contracting/sub, most of those guys aren't using real TINs. Heck, it would be a selling point in hiring him!
 
2012-12-10 10:41:59 AM

AdolfOliverPanties: My friend just interviewed this guy and the documentary filmmaker making the movie about him. Pretty interesting. WorstShowOnTheWeb.com


Hmm... I also have a friend associated with that show... do I know you? :)
 
2012-12-10 10:42:59 AM
Following the documentary's release, Kyle was able to get a special Florida state identification card, but still doesn't have a birth certificate or Social Security number.

At least he can buy beer
 
2012-12-10 10:43:52 AM
I can remember if I've ever had amnesia.
 
2012-12-10 10:44:13 AM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-12-10 10:44:48 AM
He's obviously a time traveler from the future, specifically a time period where porn 'staches are back in style.
 
2012-12-10 10:45:42 AM
Sounds like the FBI ought to train him...no finger prints or known database records...sounds like he would be a great addition to any undercover operation etc, I mean other than he is probably addicted to bath salts and sleeps in the burger king dumpster...
 
2012-12-10 10:46:13 AM
Now, with the help of a website, a documentary, Reddit and Twitter, people are rallying behind Kyle to solve the mystery of his identity or, at the very least, to attempt to help him get a new Social Security number.

And now Fark. The man is doomed.
 
2012-12-10 10:47:03 AM
Naked and covered in Fire Ants. Sounds like there might be more than family out looking for him.
May not like finding out who he is.
 
2012-12-10 10:47:40 AM
FTFA They aren't eligible for health insurance, can't pay rent or get a driver's license.

Why? All he needs is a job to pay rent. And all he needs to do is to prove he can drive to get a license.

He has been told that because of the presumption that he was given a Social Security number at some point, he cannot get another one.

Bullshiat. People get a new SSN all the time due to identity theft.

/I'm sympathetic to the guy but the article is poorly researched
 
2012-12-10 10:48:21 AM
That's Ryan Gosling from the future.

Next.
 
2012-12-10 10:48:48 AM
It's too early in the morning. Let me try that again.

I can't remember if I've ever had amnesia
 
2012-12-10 10:49:23 AM
"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I chase it with bath salts."
 
2012-12-10 10:50:05 AM
Why can't he get a SSN or ID? The FBI can't set this guy up with a new identity? They do it all the time.
 
2012-12-10 10:50:35 AM

stuffy: Naked and covered in Fire Ants. Sounds like there might be more than family out looking for him.
May not like finding out who he is.


Nah, if you're by a fast-food dumpster, "covered in fire ants" is kinda redundant.
 
2012-12-10 10:52:12 AM
Just food for thought:

If he has no idea who he is or how he got there, how does he know he's 64 years old? In the article, he mentions being that age and "due to my social and economic background, I figure I have 10 years left"

Oddly specific....
 
2012-12-10 10:53:44 AM

The Bunyip: I once got amnesia in a Burger King bathroom...

/I'm a freak
// l like the girls with the boom


I once got busy in a Burger King dumpster.

/Samoans!
 
2012-12-10 10:54:04 AM
John Titor?
/heeh heeh....you said TIT..
 
2012-12-10 10:54:35 AM
"He found himself personally frustrated with how few resources there are for the living unidentified"


There is enough fraud and corruption already with the living identified, that's why
 
2012-12-10 10:54:49 AM
He's a real nowhere man,
Sitting in his Nowhere Land,
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody.

Doesn't have a point of view,
Knows not where he's going to,
Isn't he a bit like you and me?
 
2012-12-10 10:56:33 AM
The lesson to be learned here is that you need to have your fingerprints in a federal database at least once in your life.
 
2012-12-10 10:56:54 AM

Randal2477: Just food for thought:

If he has no idea who he is or how he got there, how does he know he's 64 years old? In the article, he mentions being that age and "due to my social and economic background, I figure I have 10 years left"

Oddly specific....


He said he has some memories - like being exactly 10 years older than Michael Jackson. But yes, it's oddly specific.

He did an AMA on Reddit, mostly to ask for help in getting a new SSN - but it was odd. Lots of people offered to help finding out his actual identity, but he didn't seem all that interested. Either he's already heard everything that's helpful, or he's not that interested in finding out.
 
2012-12-10 10:57:18 AM
www.filmoria.co.uk

a.abcnews.com

Time travel is a biatch.
 
2012-12-10 10:58:06 AM
He should have switched to Direct TV.
 
2012-12-10 10:58:54 AM

Randal2477: Just food for thought:

If he has no idea who he is or how he got there, how does he know he's 64 years old? In the article, he mentions being that age and "due to my social and economic background, I figure I have 10 years left"

Oddly specific....


The doctors probably told him an estimate.
 
2012-12-10 10:59:13 AM

Skarekrough: The lesson to be learned here is that you need to have your fingerprints in a federal database at least once in your life.


that would be funny if somehow hello.jpg appeared in place of your fingerprint file
 
2012-12-10 11:00:42 AM

Primitive Screwhead: He should have switched to Direct TV.


This wins the thread.
 
2012-12-10 11:01:15 AM
Benjaman Kyle? I thought his name was Herb.
 
2012-12-10 11:05:44 AM
Did they charge him as a sex offender for being nude in public?
 
xcv
2012-12-10 11:05:55 AM
No mention of how the websleuths board considers this to be a hoax? Part of their claim is that the initial police report, medical exam and interview with responding officer all claim there was no sign of physical injury on Kyle while he keeps playing up the 'near death,' serious injury aspect in the documentaries.
 
2012-12-10 11:06:09 AM
this is why you should always have some close friends or family members who would try to figure out what happened to you if you ever disappeared mysteriously. it's possible this guy lived alone, had no family, shifted from job to job, no real close friends. so if he gets amnesia and disappears, no one would think to go looking for him. his only real hope is that someone recognizes him.
 
2012-12-10 11:06:38 AM
For some reason this guy just screams ex- military to me. I retired from the Armed Forces and can think of only 2 "organizations" that require a complete wipe of former identity, neither of which he would ever find through public channels.

That and he has a very slight pacific northwest accent, definitely not a Georgian where he was found.

Very odd story, with this much exposure no one has stepped forward to recognize him.
 
2012-12-10 11:07:05 AM
 
2012-12-10 11:08:29 AM

IAmRight: Primitive Screwhead: He should have switched to Direct TV.

This wins the thread.


i36.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-10 11:09:29 AM
Illegal alien!

Did they check him for a belly button?
 
2012-12-10 11:10:28 AM
I know, I know.....

i94.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-10 11:14:08 AM
Naked, unresponsive, and covered with fire ant bites is no way to go through life, son.
 
2012-12-10 11:16:55 AM
So nasty that fire ants left him out by the dumpster?
 
2012-12-10 11:18:12 AM

tetsoushima: [www.filmoria.co.uk image 390x116]

[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]

Time travel is a biatch.


OK if you're going to post that then I reply with.....

i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-12-10 11:24:46 AM
If you wake up naked behind the Burger King, it's probably a blessing that you don't remember anything.

/Sir, regardless of your strong belief, I doubt the massive rectal tearing is congenital.
 
2012-12-10 11:26:20 AM

Snort: This is a hoax.


Link

A few years ago, a Website called Websleuths began pouring in hours into the Benjaman Kyle story, trying to solve the case. One day, a moderator proclaimed, it was a hoax- due to some discrepancies between the reports of how he was found. Here's a quote from Neil Forsyth's article in The Guardian.

"In 2007 Kyle became one of the site's most popular cases until, on 3 April, Griffith posted a 350-word entry claiming that she and others had evidence Kyle wasn't beaten and so was a fraud. The 18-page discussion that followed contained two pieces of apparent evidence. The first was that Richmond Hill police had told a Websleuths member Kyle was not unconscious when found and was able to talk but chose not to do so.
However, Harold Copus, an investigator with more than a decade's experience as an FBI case manager, who was brought in by the Dr Phil show to look into Kyle's story, supports his version of events. "I spoke to the EMTs [paramedics], Burger King staff and responding police officers. Not only was Kyle unconscious when he was found, they thought he was dead." Copus confirms that Kyle's fingerprints have been checked against the FBI's files on both criminal and civil cases, the most comprehensive search possible. Kyle also cooperated with a linguist (who agreed that a midwest background was likely) and Copus talks about taking Kyle to an "expensive doctor in Atlanta" who reviewed "Kyle's medical situation from the moment he was found".

In my own research for the documentary, I tried to obtain the original police reports from the Richmond Hill Police Department. Sadly, they no longer exist. And when you do look at the information provided by websleuths, there do seem to be differences between the stories, but more disturbingly, the original report is gone.

Because of the strange circumstances of the case, proper care was not taken on the crime scene, or for the subsequent paperwork. To this day, it is used as an example to police trainees in Georgia on how to not conduct a crime scene. So, yes, Websleuth's conclusion that some of the details are hazy is correct, since the case was not given the proper documentation. But their conclusion, that this man is faking his condition, and doesn't know who he is, is not.
 
2012-12-10 11:27:27 AM
Some say its a hoax... HOW? No one has seen him and come forward and exposed him then. Its not like he is a millionaire from it. He is not hiding from someone either.

What would be the point and the people in that HOAX thread from that website have nothing to base their argument on.
 
2012-12-10 11:32:04 AM
The Internet is banding together in search of the identity of a man who does not know who he is.

No, we aren't. We like to keep the mystery.
 
2012-12-10 11:32:12 AM
he may have initially had amnesia, but he doesn't anymore. he knows who he is, but he isn't all that happy with his former life as a lonely, homeless man. now he's just an attention whore trying to get his fake name out there and see whatever free stuff can be provided for him. he likes to tell this story for sympathy and you're all falling for it.

/i don't actually have any idea what i'm talking about
 
2012-12-10 11:33:52 AM
'He has been fingerprinted more than five times by the FBI with no luck.'
I think the 6th time will be a charm.
 
2012-12-10 11:36:09 AM

XanthPrime: Snort: This is a hoax.

Link

A few years ago, a Website called Websleuths began pouring in hours into the Benjaman Kyle story, trying to solve the case. One day, a moderator proclaimed, it was a hoax- due to some discrepancies between the reports of how he was found. Here's a quote from Neil Forsyth's article in The Guardian.

"In 2007 Kyle became one of the site's most popular cases until, on 3 April, Griffith posted a 350-word entry claiming that she and others had evidence Kyle wasn't beaten and so was a fraud. The 18-page discussion that followed contained two pieces of apparent evidence. The first was that Richmond Hill police had told a Websleuths member Kyle was not unconscious when found and was able to talk but chose not to do so.
However, Harold Copus, an investigator with more than a decade's experience as an FBI case manager, who was brought in by the Dr Phil show to look into Kyle's story, supports his version of events. "I spoke to the EMTs [paramedics], Burger King staff and responding police officers. Not only was Kyle unconscious when he was found, they thought he was dead." Copus confirms that Kyle's fingerprints have been checked against the FBI's files on both criminal and civil cases, the most comprehensive search possible. Kyle also cooperated with a linguist (who agreed that a midwest background was likely) and Copus talks about taking Kyle to an "expensive doctor in Atlanta" who reviewed "Kyle's medical situation from the moment he was found".

In my own research for the documentary, I tried to obtain the original police reports from the Richmond Hill Police Department. Sadly, they no longer exist. And when you do look at the information provided by websleuths, there do seem to be differences between the stories, but more disturbingly, the original report is gone.

Because of the strange circumstances of the case, proper care was not taken on the crime scene, or for the subsequent paperwork. To this day, it is used as an example to police t ...



iwanttobelieve.jpg

The story is repeated until it becomes true.

The guy got what he wanted, a fresh start and now notoriety.

You don't have to listen to me, though, I am a life long cynic. This case sets off my stink meter.
 
2012-12-10 11:39:44 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaspar_Hauser

Kasper Hauser
 
2012-12-10 11:40:39 AM

Snort: a fresh start and now notoriety


Those seem to be mutually exclusive.
 
2012-12-10 11:44:36 AM

xcv: No mention of how the websleuths board considers this to be a hoax? Part of their claim is that the initial police report, medical exam and interview with responding officer all claim there was no sign of physical injury on Kyle while he keeps playing up the 'near death,' serious injury aspect in the documentaries.


Outside and naked in winter could easily have one be near death without any outward physical trauma.

Just FYI.
 
2012-12-10 11:44:47 AM
a fully grown prom night dumpster baby
 
2012-12-10 11:47:55 AM
This guy did an AMA on reddit awhile back.

There were multiple redditors that remember seeing someone similar working as a maintenance man for Waffle House.

Ben Kyle never responded to those questions/comments. Others are following up on the clues.

Link to AMA on reddit
 
2012-12-10 11:51:14 AM
Since he's not in the US files, anyone thought about trying Canadian or European databases?

Still sounds awfully fishy to me.
 
2012-12-10 11:51:49 AM
Well, as long as it was only bites and not stings, he's fine, I'm sure.
 
2012-12-10 11:56:10 AM

Null Pointer: This guy did an AMA on reddit awhile back.

There were multiple redditors that remember seeing someone similar working as a maintenance man for Waffle House.

Ben Kyle never responded to those questions/comments. Others are following up on the clues.

Link to AMA on reddit


That's mentioned in TFA, and there's a blurb about how he worked at a kitchen and 'instinctually' knew how to repair and operate things there, so he thinks the Reddit folks are onto something.
 
2012-12-10 12:00:31 PM
Did anybody even stop to consider that he's bat shiat farking crazy? The reason that no one claims him is because of that fact? That he does know who he is?
 
2012-12-10 12:02:41 PM

WarszawaScream: That's mentioned in TFA, and there's a blurb about how he worked at a kitchen and 'instinctually' knew how to repair and operate things there, so he thinks the Reddit folks are onto something.


Or it could be that he simply has an aptitude for mechanical systems, which could also mean he's a self taught software developer, for instance. So I don't think they are on to something, personally. On to a rabbit hole, sure...
 
2012-12-10 12:23:54 PM

special20: WarszawaScream: That's mentioned in TFA, and there's a blurb about how he worked at a kitchen and 'instinctually' knew how to repair and operate things there, so he thinks the Reddit folks are onto something.

Or it could be that he simply has an aptitude for mechanical systems, which could also mean he's a self taught software developer, for instance. So I don't think they are on to something, personally. On to a rabbit hole, sure...


maybe he's the secret creator of FARK.COM
 
2012-12-10 12:28:13 PM
it's gerald mcraney from simon and simon
i295.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-10 12:45:10 PM

gingerjet: FTFA They aren't eligible for health insurance, can't pay rent or get a driver's license.

Why? All he needs is a job to pay rent. And all he needs to do is to prove he can drive to get a license.

He has been told that because of the presumption that he was given a Social Security number at some point, he cannot get another one.

Bullshiat. People get a new SSN all the time due to identity theft.

/I'm sympathetic to the guy but the article is poorly researched


There are a few rare instances where a new SSN can be issued, identity theft is one of them (only if the person continues to be disadvantaged by using the original number), however amnesia is not.
 
2012-12-10 12:49:20 PM

Snort: This is a hoax.


Well I guess that settles that. After all, if it's posted on an internet forum then it must be true.
 
2012-12-10 01:16:40 PM
Sounds like 'Monday' to me.
 
2012-12-10 02:06:22 PM

ReapTheChaos: Snort: This is a hoax.

Well I guess that settles that. After all, if it's posted on an internet forum then it must be true.


Much like the article linked!
 
2012-12-10 02:13:01 PM

Snort: This case sets off my stink meter.


Mine as well, at first, but the fact that no one has come forward to conclusively debunk him makes me wonder. If this were just a hoax, the dude would have had to have been a near recluse prior to beginning it, as someone should have outed him by now, right?
 
2012-12-10 02:20:38 PM

gingerjet: FTFA They aren't eligible for health insurance, can't pay rent or get a driver's license.

Why? All he needs is a job to pay rent. And all he needs to do is to prove he can drive to get a license.

He has been told that because of the presumption that he was given a Social Security number at some point, he cannot get another one.

Bullshiat. People get a new SSN all the time due to identity theft.

/I'm sympathetic to the guy but the article is poorly researched


Try getting a real job without a SSN. Moreover, if an employer is paying you under the table they are NOT going to give you a letter of employment so you can get an apartment.

Also most landlords do a background check, how can you do a background check on someone without a past?
 
2012-12-10 02:57:35 PM
TFA doesn't say if they've ever run his DNA through CODIS. It won't ID him if he doesn't have a criminal record, but it might provide a pointer to a relative.
 
2012-12-10 03:36:29 PM
Something very, very fishy here.
 
2012-12-10 05:51:24 PM

Smoky Dragon Dish: Did anybody even stop to consider that he's bat shiat farking crazy? The reason that no one claims him is because of that fact? That he does know who he is?


If he were batshiat farking crazy the chances are he would have ended up in an institution or a jail cell by now. If the police are called to deal with a man found unconscious, naked and covered in fire ant bites behind a burger king then they probably aren't working on the assumption that it's a sane, law abiding member of society. Either way, he's been sane enough to stay out of trouble and function on his own.
 
2012-12-10 06:49:07 PM
Came for/during the Humpty Dance, leaving sore and inebriated.
 
2012-12-10 09:17:39 PM
Naked guy found behind a dumpster?

www.jamescamerononline.com

We are SO screwed.
 
2012-12-10 09:23:00 PM
animesucks
2012-12-10 11:32:12 AM
he may have initially had amnesia, but he doesn't anymore. he knows who he is, but he isn't all that happy with his former life as a lonely, homeless man. now he's just an attention whore trying to get his fake name out there and see whatever free stuff can be provided for him. he likes to tell this story for sympathy and you're all falling for it.

/i don't actually have any idea what i'm talking about


I was a member at WS still am... but this was the gist of it. He did not want his old life because he was quite happy with his new one.
 
2012-12-11 12:40:52 AM
There is a video floating around of him, pre-amnesia, but he doesn't reveal his name in the video.
 
2012-12-11 01:04:41 AM
Isn't that an old Scott Thompson character?

Must have escaped from his repertoire.

You know the one I mean.
 
2012-12-11 02:27:07 AM

brantgoose: Isn't that an old Scott Thompson character?

Must have escaped from his repertoire.

You know the one I mean.


Yep, but then one day he woke up behind a Burger King dumpster.
 
2012-12-11 10:22:37 AM

Cybernetic: TFA doesn't say if they've ever run his DNA through CODIS. It won't ID him if he doesn't have a criminal record, but it might provide a pointer to a relative.


I don't think they do that just whily-nily, also I think "looking for a relative" is a violation of privacy rights. You can get an FBI background fingerprint clearance for 18 bucks. I just had to get mine for Canadian Immigration so I know.
 
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