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(AL.com)   Alabama public school separates boys and girls for all classes "because boys are better than girls because their bodies receive testosterone, while girls have similar skills only a few days per month". The ACLU has a problem with this   (blog.al.com) divider line 64
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2012-12-10 02:56:42 AM
11 votes:

TheHopeDiamond: How about we stop sending foreign aid to third-world developing countries and send it to farking Alabama?


How about you stop making fun of the best school system on the planet? Alabama was first place out of fifty states in getting the lowest science test scores. It's no wonder we kick your butts at football.
2012-12-10 01:08:10 AM
9 votes:
It makes sense for drivers' ed.
2012-12-10 12:59:09 AM
8 votes:
As long as the classes are equal it's OK if they're separated.
2012-12-10 04:31:34 AM
7 votes:
"the school relied on a book that teaches that boys are better than girls in math because their bodies receive daily surges of testosterone"

When I get a surge of testosterone, all I can think about is multiplying. Am I right? amirite? guys?
2012-12-10 01:18:34 AM
7 votes:

Apos: Mind-boggling idiocy. Alabama is clearly vying for a Fark tag.


Jake. It's Alabama. You can't do anything about it.

/Spent a lot of my life on the AL/TN/MS border. Jesus Christ, the stupidity.
//Jesus Christ seemed to have a lot to do with their stupidity, actually
2012-12-10 04:44:10 AM
6 votes:

Serious Black: Did these assclowns fall out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down?


They fell out of the family tree and farked every sibling on the way down.
2012-12-10 01:09:36 AM
4 votes:

GAT_00: and I'm all with the ACLU here. What a crock of shiat.


I dunno, man. When I get a surge of testosterone I get REAL good at math.
2012-12-10 07:10:47 AM
3 votes:
Sweet hormone, Alabama.
2012-12-10 06:29:39 AM
3 votes:

Mike_LowELL: TheHopeDiamond: How about we stop sending foreign aid to third-world developing countries and send it to farking Alabama?

How about you stop making fun of the best school system on the planet? Alabama was first place out of fifty states in getting the lowest science test scores. It's no wonder we kick your butts at football.


Not only that, but the toothbrush was invented in Alabama.
Anywhere else, and they'd have called it a "teethbrush".
2012-12-10 04:22:00 AM
3 votes:
CSS time:

They tried splitting out girls and boys into our own gym classes one year at my high school. The reasoning was that girls and boys have different interests in physical activities. Really, I think my teacher just really, really wanted to teach dance and they knew the boys wouldn't go for it.

Well, we girls didn't really go for it, either. It was supposed to be some six-week course, going through all the different major types of dance. ...while the boys got to screw around playing basketball. By the second week, we were pretty close to mutiny, and if you have never seen 70+ teenaged girls all sulking around in a room with a smoldering look of fury in their eyes, well. You can imagine.

Anyway, by that point, my teacher, god love her, realized what was happening. So she decided to hold a vote. Continue dance or play tennis with the shiattiest ping-pong paddle-sized plastic racquets you've ever seen? And oh man, it was like a TV show, the way she said it all. "Who would like to continue with our wonderful study of dance, ranging in a wide selection of important historical, cultural, blahblahblah" and on. One girl raised her hand. Then she said, flatly, "...and who would like to play tennis?"

We voted for tennis.

Best month of gym class ever, eight of us to a court with those shiatty plastic racquets and all. We had a hell of a great time.

I think that's what finally broke my teacher's heart in gym, though, and convinced her to stick to teaching English. She was great at that.
2012-12-10 08:44:44 AM
2 votes:
I would love to see what they're teaching in science class. I bet at least one of their textbooks has a picture of Jesus riding a velociraptor.
2012-12-10 07:50:30 AM
2 votes:

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Plus, the culture in math and the physical sciences is pretty funny. There is a huge component of nerdiness coupled with machismo...I often found it alienating, like the sweaty smell most of my classmates would infuse the classroom with. Lucky for me, I love science more than that.


As they say ... how can you tell a Cambridge mathematician likes you? He looks at your feet when he's talking to you.
2012-12-10 07:09:31 AM
2 votes:

BiffSpiffy: Just a quick question (I think).

Why is everyone posting about Alabama? The article is from the Newspaper in Alabama, but I think they have pulled one over on FARK folks.

In the first sentence it states "Birmingham's Huffman Middle School and another district in Idaho"

I'm not sure, and I could be wrong, but this is all about Idaho, not Alabama. In the actual article it talks about Birmingham. Maybe they are speaking about Birmingham, England.


=====

Well they both have a lot in common.

/potato
2012-12-10 06:58:17 AM
2 votes:

fusillade762: 182: fusillade762: As long as the classes are equal it's OK if they're separated.

wow! just wow.

What? You have a problem with separate but equal classes?


Nah, he just saw a modified wooden toilet paper roller.
2012-12-10 06:15:21 AM
2 votes:

182: fusillade762: As long as the classes are equal it's OK if they're separated.

wow! just wow.


What? You have a problem with separate but equal classes?
2012-12-10 05:35:56 AM
2 votes:
Can we just dedicate an entire HD channel to Alabama and give David Attenborough a contract?
2012-12-10 04:18:53 AM
2 votes:
[kitten jumps up carefully into Rik01's lap, purrs nicely]
2012-12-10 03:40:39 AM
2 votes:

kingoomieiii: doglover: Here is a stereotype I know about one of the parties in this headline with no other context 

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i25.photobucket.com
2012-12-10 01:39:42 PM
1 votes:
Whatever you think of the school's policy, one thing is for sure, the spread of cooties has dropped significantly.
2012-12-10 12:29:09 PM
1 votes:
Whatever.

SkunkWerks: We've


You insist on speaking on behalf of everyone in multiple threads, but I'm the narcissist?

Get off your cross, sparky, we need the wood.

SkunkWerks: I find the nature of your "findings" less


Straw man. I've listed no "findings".
Well, aside from you being a trollign butthook, intent on demeaning people who find interest in the topic, by labeling them as feigning intersest.

Ah, I've a stalker. Glad to know how you categorize people. Helps me identify who I should ignore.
2012-12-10 12:01:07 PM
1 votes:

SkunkWerks: So, we've never identified this before... ever?


No, WE are not all aware of it.

Individuals put it forth, yes. It's been discovered. Word has not gotten out yet, it's still news to some.


SkunkWerks: feigning empirical interest


What does that even mean? We're here on fark discussing it, we're not feigning interest. We ARE interested, albeit to varying degrees from passing conversation to hobby to professional career.

Want to call everyone a hipster or poser, make a simple post like every other jackass and then GTFO.
2012-12-10 10:20:38 AM
1 votes:

someonelse: Maybe giftedmadness missed it because he's at a low point in his menstrual cycle.


Biorhythms! LOL!
2012-12-10 10:19:58 AM
1 votes:

Phinn: I haven't seen this many White Knights gathered in one place since that Ren Faire in Minnesota.


How about at that Canadian SCA tourney?
2012-12-10 10:09:30 AM
1 votes:
Of course women are inferior, they wouldn't be submissive nor look for someone to take care of them if they weren't.

I mean state the damn obvious people, as you all know how people with Down's syndrome are inferior but we all know it's not nice to tease them, but it doesn't change the fact that they are.
2012-12-10 10:03:50 AM
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: I like that the comments section seems convinced that the ACLU is the federal government.

Alabama!


Alabama being taken over by either one would be a huge improvement.
2012-12-10 09:53:34 AM
1 votes:
I haven't seen this many White Knights gathered in one place since that Ren Faire in Minnesota.
2012-12-10 09:53:05 AM
1 votes:
I can understand having some of the classes separated, do boys really need to go to Sammich class?
2012-12-10 09:49:28 AM
1 votes:
This foolishness must stop. It is impossible to continue pussification the American male if he is in a same sex classroom wherein his maleness is emphasized. The feminist agenda is always more important.
2012-12-10 09:45:28 AM
1 votes:

Linux_Yes: What's important to Alabamaians/The South: -not in any particular order-

1)God

2)Football - sports in general

3)Nascar

4)Booze

5) cliques (being in the 'right' social circles)

6) Race - the blacks are just as prejudiced as the whites

7)Republican party -- the majority (~60%) of Alabamaians (and the south) are Republican and poor. they don't even know who in D.C. is against their interests. they vote for their enemy in washington.


What is not important to Alabamaians/The South:

1) the ability to reason. the ability to take information/facts and make reasonable conclusions/judgments about them without using 'God' as a source.

2)Taxes -they're evil and ruining freedom. even though the South gets more Federal Money than any other section of the United States. ironic to say the least.



addendum:

forgot one:

FOX News is the only source of real news in the South. all other sources are lying 'librals'
2012-12-10 09:43:42 AM
1 votes:
What's important to Alabamaians/The South: -not in any particular order-

1)God

2)Football - sports in general

3)Nascar

4)Booze

5) cliques (being in the 'right' social circles)

6) Race - the blacks are just as prejudiced as the whites

7)Republican party -- the majority (~60%) of Alabamaians (and the south) are Republican and poor. they don't even know who in D.C. is against their interests. they vote for their enemy in washington.


What is not important to Alabamaians/The South:

1) the ability to reason. the ability to take information/facts and make reasonable conclusions/judgments about them without using 'God' as a source.

2)Taxes -they're evil and ruining freedom. even though the South gets more Federal Money than any other section of the United States. ironic to say the least.
2012-12-10 09:40:49 AM
1 votes:
Everyone knows that without regular pelvic massage, people of the female persuasion are subject to hysteria and the vapors.
2012-12-10 09:34:59 AM
1 votes:
Successful Hot Male: "Clearly there's some issue here with energy retention, i just can't figure it out!"
Attractive Single Female: "Oh, that? If you simply use encapsulated phase-change materials in the node, then you could reduce the effects of the second law, thereby increasing energy retention efficiency...
Successful Hot Male: .......
Attractive Single Female: "uhhuh, i mean... Is that a sale on shoes? I LOVE shoes!"
2012-12-10 09:31:42 AM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: ph0rk: If you were a betting person you'd wager the individual from group a has a higher score than an individual from group b (absent individual evidence) because that is the safer bet.

If you were a betting person, you wouldn't take a bet with 10:1 odds against you unless the payoff was huge...

... which raises the question - what's the huge payoff in gender discrimination that leads people to enforce it?


Sandwiches, obviously.
2012-12-10 09:31:06 AM
1 votes:

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: 2c

While there may be a lot of talk about how math and science are male subjects people should note that girls are either closing the gap or are now outperforming boys (depending on your location) and have been outperforming boys in language and literature for some time.

The idea that boys are better at math, or academia in general, is an idea built on very shaky foundations.


Boys are certainly better at dropping out of high school, not going to college, and not graduating from college if they do go, however.
2012-12-10 09:30:22 AM
1 votes:
Alabama: Making Kentucky look progressive since 1819.
2012-12-10 09:26:00 AM
1 votes:

octopied: Both my brother and his wife are engineers, so I'm getting a kick....


My sister worked her way up from an entry-level, grunt engineer to VP of engineering at a large and well known company over the course of 20 years. Oh, she also raised a passel of kids in that time. One of her daughters is studying chemical engineering now.

...so I'm kicking myself for letting testosterone (or whatever) keep me distracted from math back then.
2012-12-10 09:17:02 AM
1 votes:

lyanna96: Kittypie070: [kitten jumps up carefully into Rik01's lap, purrs nicely]

What the fark was that? This isn't a hook-up site!


/or should it be?


wait... it isn't? shiat.
2012-12-10 09:08:31 AM
1 votes:

LouDobbsAwaaaay: And on the few days per month girls are good at math, they have to keep on guard about attracting bears.


sale.images.woot.com
2012-12-10 08:52:20 AM
1 votes:

SkunkWerks: MycroftHolmes: but is it not valid to recognize that women and men have different wiring, both physiologically as well as cognitively?

It's valid when your observation focuses on "wiring differences" that don't pertain to "having breasts", "missing penises" and "capacity to make sandwiches", yes.


You know, as much sandwich-making is frequently delegated to women, it is clearly an area that men excel at when dire circumstances force us to take matters into our own hands. Observe, sandwiches made by men:
bitesofbliss.files.wordpress.com
Sandwiches made by women:
4.bp.blogspot.com
2012-12-10 08:34:13 AM
1 votes:
Farking General Sherman and his half measures.

Seriously, if we don't figure out how to fix the Southern Problem soon, it will be the death of this country.
2012-12-10 08:16:57 AM
1 votes:

ggecko: And what would you say if the separated them by race next?


i775.photobucket.com
2012-12-10 08:15:02 AM
1 votes:
imgs.xkcd.com

Applies to anything, really (driving, sports, games, etc). Society tends to judge men's failures on an individual basis, but tends to judge an individual woman's failure as indicative of her entire gender (and an individual woman's success as an outlier).
2012-12-10 08:08:28 AM
1 votes:

Metalithic: Big Ramifications: Somacandra: FTFA: According to the ACLU, the school relied on a book that teaches that boys are better than girls in math because their bodies receive daily surges of testosterone, while girls have similar skills only a few days per month when they experience increased estrogen during the menstrual cycle.

Downloaded and read the PDF complaint. Seems to center around this book:

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Does a lot of "gender science." Not sure what that is supposed to mean, except it heavily priveldges nature over nurt
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So why ARE boys better at math? My reference is a similar-sounding book called Brain Sex.
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IIRC the book cites the absurdly lopsided ratio of male:female mathematics doctorates as proof.

b-b-but sexism at universities!

b-b-but child rearing duties!

b-b-but male hegemony!

So what exactly are you saying? That a predominance of male mathematics postgraduates is proof that testosterone makes you a math wiz?


Well, in his defense, he's not very good at math.
2012-12-10 07:58:36 AM
1 votes:
The last wonder in the world surely has to be why women are still voting GOP?
2012-12-10 07:56:02 AM
1 votes:
It's Al Obama's fault!
2012-12-10 07:46:26 AM
1 votes:
Last seen in girl's classes:

th04.deviantart.net

Last seen in boy's classes:

evridikidakos.edublogs.org

/Alabama needs it's own fark tag
2012-12-10 07:45:33 AM
1 votes:
I like that the comments section seems convinced that the ACLU is the federal government.

Alabama!
2012-12-10 07:34:44 AM
1 votes:

HindiDiscoMonster: /Assuming science is correct in this matter


Yes and no. Science largely debunked the "left-half/right-half-dominant" theories nearly a century ago.

So it really depends on what century you're still living in with regards to science.
2012-12-10 07:33:15 AM
1 votes:

orbister: Big Ramifications: IIRC the book cites the absurdly lopsided ratio of male:female mathematics doctorates as proof.

That's an interesting question. When I was at university, maths was roughly 50:50 at undergraduate level and roughly 20:1 male to female at postgrad. Physics, on the other hand, had a much higher proportion of women postgrads than undergrads.


I completed a PhD dissertation in a physics discipline with a significant topology/matrix mechanics focus. I probably could have gone into a pure topology field because I love abstract math, topo in particular.

However, i tried to be practical....the job prospects for a purely math postgrad degree weren't great, and I wouldn't want to be an actuary if all else failed, so off to the applied sciences I went.

Anecdote =/= data but I suspect there is some selection towards applied mathematics for other female scientists. If we are launching ourselves towards a degree in STEM, it's good to know we can compete for real jobs.

Plus, the culture in math and the physical sciences is pretty funny. There is a huge component of nerdiness coupled with machismo...I often found it alienating, like the sweaty smell most of my classmates would infuse the classroom with. Lucky for me, I love science more than that.
2012-12-10 07:16:17 AM
1 votes:
Women who vote Republican:

This is the world the Republicans want for you and your daughters.
2012-12-10 06:23:51 AM
1 votes:
25.media.tumblr.com
2012-12-10 05:24:04 AM
1 votes:
Both my brother and his wife are engineers, so I'm getting a kick....
2012-12-10 05:08:00 AM
1 votes:
"Be a Man" has an unintentional comedy homo-erotic undercurrent to it - I bet the emphasis is on manly sports like wrestling and football. Probably just turf out loads of little Putins.
2012-12-10 04:59:04 AM
1 votes:
Everybody knows the true rugged, testosterone-filled manly men are to be found in the Mathematics Departments of universities.

*sigh* And this on Ada Lovelace's birthday.
2012-12-10 04:36:35 AM
1 votes:

Porous Horace: Oh, so now science is "bad"?


This word doesn't mean what I think you think it means in this context.
2012-12-10 04:35:17 AM
1 votes:
Oh, so now science is "bad"?
2012-12-10 04:29:35 AM
1 votes:
Did these assclowns fall out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down?
2012-12-10 04:26:36 AM
1 votes:
Are the Asian and Eastern European students in different classes also?
/They have kilotons of testosterone following in each one of them
2012-12-10 04:23:46 AM
1 votes:

giftedmadness: and the quote from the headline is never found in the article


Know how I know you didn't read the article?
2012-12-10 04:14:34 AM
1 votes:
The older I get, the more absolutely stupid humanity seems to become.

I grew up in the 50's and got used to Stupid, but by the 60's, changes were taking place that would be profound and for the overall good. Now we exist in a world of electronic miracles, which has shrunk the world dramatically, opened up borders, crossed the barriers of tradition, language, religion and society, exposed people to the thoughts of millions and brought vast amounts of education to your home, for free, at the click of a mouse.

I've seen 'liberation' in many forms and freedoms flourish like never before. I've watched traditions fall and civilizations begin to blend as free thinkers began to be heard.

However, as always, there seems to be an undercurrent of Stupid, which threatens to suck civilization back down into the Dark Ages and some people cling to archaic ideas and hire lawyers more than willing to take their money and tie up the courts in an effort to suppress the rights of others and make a joke of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Maybe pushing so much electronic advances on people was done before the species had matured enough to grasp them. The Internet and cell phones have given rise to new, expansive outlets for the Lunatic Fringe and hate groups, people who spew hate over things they don't understand and others who spread misinformation mainly because they can.

Stupid seems to thrive in the Southern States of the USA, where many folks are still fighting the civil war and cling to old traditions and philosophies.

Whoever is responsible for reinstating a segregational system that was forcibly ended by law at the end of the 18th century needs to have his or her collective arses kicked and loose their positions of power and influence.

Humanity never fails to disappoint me.
2012-12-10 04:05:53 AM
1 votes:
Wasn't this a simpsons episode :/ ? Does the school board learn nothing from Fox animation domination?
2012-12-10 02:33:55 AM
1 votes:
How about we stop sending foreign aid to third-world developing countries and send it to farking Alabama?
2012-12-10 02:25:55 AM
1 votes:
According to the ACLU, the school relied on a book that teaches that boys are better than girls in math because their bodies receive daily surges of testosterone, while girls have similar skills only a few days per month when they experience increased estrogen during the menstrual cycle.

20prospect.files.wordpress.com

/Oblig, hot and wrong.
2012-12-10 01:17:31 AM
1 votes:

kingoomieiii: doglover: Here is a stereotype I know about one of the parties in this headline with no other context 

[t0.gstatic.com image 278x181]


I say, I say, I say, that's a joke, son.
 
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