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(ABC Local)   Some wonder why a state senator, making at least $67k a year (plus $132 a day per diem), with a Masters in Healthcare Administration, is moonlighting part-time at a security firm with an unregistered firearm   (abclocal.go.com) divider line 185
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2012-12-09 11:09:30 PM  
And another CIA agent gets outed
 
2012-12-09 11:19:29 PM  
The Sun-Times has a pretty derpy editorial on the matter here .

Apparently, this is somehow a vindication of Illinois' stance on concealed carry, and a good opportunity to bash the NRA. Because the NRA totally advocates trying to bring guns on to planes.
 
2012-12-09 11:42:21 PM  
He must be one of Marcone's men.
 
2012-12-10 12:27:46 AM  

Fark It: The Sun-Times has a pretty derpy editorial on the matter here .

Apparently, this is somehow a vindication of Illinois' stance on concealed carry, and a good opportunity to bash the NRA. Because the NRA totally advocates trying to bring guns on to planes.


I seem to recall quite a few NRA people saying that if people would have allowed guns on planes then 9/11 would have never happened.
 
2012-12-10 12:49:39 AM  

Fark It: The Sun-Times has a pretty derpy editorial on the matter here .


You weren't kidding. That op-ed was a complete piece of crap. Who the hell thinks profound thoughts like "I am a certified wimp when it comes to guns. They terrify me.....Predictably, his fellow elected officials have been noncommittal. ...we'll see how it goes, blah, blah, blah. Some of them are probably carrying, too....The National Rifle Association will probably sign him up for an honorary membership. They want us all packing, all the time."

I left the NRA decades ago when they flopped to the right of Genghis Khan, but this is just shiatwriting.
 
2012-12-10 12:56:03 AM  
Oooh $67k! He is practically a millionare
 
2012-12-10 12:57:01 AM  
He is charged with having a gun that no one seems to know he owned to use on a job that no one knew he had.

And the company in question aint talking?

Fred, Daphne, Scooby, Velma, Shaggy!

Get yer asses in here we got a mystery to solve!
 
2012-12-10 01:00:29 AM  
dear subby, "per diem" and "a day" are precisely and exactly the same thing and using them like that was both duplicative and repetitive. i find that to be unnecessary and extraneous.
 
2012-12-10 01:16:43 AM  

cretinbob: And another CIA agent gets outed


www.blakesnyder.com


Fark It: Because the NRA totally advocates trying to bring guns on to planes.


Credit where credit is due. My grandfather bought me a lifetime membership to the NRA at 14 which I later canceled because they went full retard on the derp as Charlton Heston slipped further into madness, and the ultra-right wingers took it over..
 
2012-12-10 01:41:58 AM  
What is a registered firearm? I have no idea.

*reads article*

Ah, Chicago. It makes total sense now. Here in Pennsylvania we trust our citizens, sorry about your luck.
 
2012-12-10 02:08:10 AM  
that's like twice the per diem
 
2012-12-10 02:10:18 AM  

cretinbob: And another CIA agent gets outed


The CIA does a lot of strange stuff, but having agents working for a small armed-response security company in Chicago seems a little too weird even for them. Especially if that agent is also a state senator.

I'm going with him being in the pay of some Chicago mob boss, or possibly working as a deep-cover DEA agent a la Leonardo DiCaprio in "The Departed."
 
2012-12-10 02:13:44 AM  

shaft6969: dear subby, "per diem" and "a day" are precisely and exactly the same thing and using them like that was both duplicative and repetitive. i find that to be unnecessary and extraneous.


I would like to repeat everything shaft6969 says here. Again.
 
2012-12-10 02:15:15 AM  

ultraholland: that's like twice the per diem


He likes per diem

*

I'm thinking he got a part-time job as a security guard just so he'd have an easier time keeping a gun. Many states' gun laws are more lenient if you have what is perceived to be a more valid reason for carrying it.
 
2012-12-10 02:17:02 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Here in Pennsylvania we trust our citizens,


You may, but I sure as hell don't. This state is full of rednecks, assholes, mouthbreathers and the products of generations of incest, and that's just the Philly suburbs!
 
2012-12-10 02:22:55 AM  
What kind of "security guard" carries a .25? Most .25's are tiny and the accuracy is horrid. It's a pocket gun fer crying out loud.
 
2012-12-10 02:26:13 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Ah, Chicago. It makes total sense now. Here in Pennsylvania we trust our citizens, sorry about your luck.


Eh. I'm completely pro-Second Amendment and I'm fine with (and prefer) firearms registration. I don't see it as a "Trust" issue; even when it comes to the most trustworthy, knowledgeable owner, accidents happen and thieves exist. For the sake of argument, let's imagine that somebody stole your gun - if it's registered, it should be easier to retrieve or replace, right?

/What's the difference between registering/licensing guns and registering/licensing cars?
 
2012-12-10 02:26:54 AM  
I wonder if the GOP of Illinois will side with him
 
2012-12-10 02:29:03 AM  

LittleSmitty: What kind of "security guard" carries a .25? Most .25's are tiny and the accuracy is horrid. It's a pocket gun fer crying out loud.


Does it make a loud noise when fired, especially in an otherwise quiet night?

/There's your answer.
 
2012-12-10 02:29:38 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Ah, Chicago. It makes total sense now. Here in Pennsylvania we trust our citizens, sorry about your luck.

Eh. I'm completely pro-Second Amendment and I'm fine with (and prefer) firearms registration. I don't see it as a "Trust" issue; even when it comes to the most trustworthy, knowledgeable owner, accidents happen and thieves exist. For the sake of argument, let's imagine that somebody stole your gun - if it's registered, it should be easier to retrieve or replace, right?

/What's the difference between registering/licensing guns and registering/licensing cars?


Ask an old Jew that one day.
 
2012-12-10 02:30:01 AM  
In Texas it's $7200 per year plus a per diem while the state congress is in session, which I think is limited to 120 days every two years unless the governor calls for a special session. So our legislature has to have a real job to go back to.

I don't know what the gun registration rules are like in Chicago, but I know that if you travel much you should pack a pistol in your CHECKED LUGGAGE. Then you declare it at check-in and it gets extra special treatment from the TSA to make sure it stays with you. That would explain why he had a dinky .25 pistol. Unless he's a hitman.
 
2012-12-10 02:34:41 AM  

LittleSmitty: What kind of "security guard" carries a .25? Most .25's are tiny and the accuracy is horrid. It's a pocket gun fer crying out loud.


It's one step up from a pellet gun. Maybe. Depending on the pellet gun.
 
2012-12-10 02:39:54 AM  

Summercat: LittleSmitty: What kind of "security guard" carries a .25? Most .25's are tiny and the accuracy is horrid. It's a pocket gun fer crying out loud.

Does it make a loud noise when fired, especially in an otherwise quiet night?

/There's your answer.


By that logic, a cap gun or maybe a large pot and a wooden spoon would be sufficient.

And as far as I know, security gaurds don't randomly pop off a cap to scare away a criminal.

/Try a new answer
 
2012-12-10 02:41:25 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: Fluorescent Testicle: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Ah, Chicago. It makes total sense now. Here in Pennsylvania we trust our citizens, sorry about your luck.

Eh. I'm completely pro-Second Amendment and I'm fine with (and prefer) firearms registration. I don't see it as a "Trust" issue; even when it comes to the most trustworthy, knowledgeable owner, accidents happen and thieves exist. For the sake of argument, let's imagine that somebody stole your gun - if it's registered, it should be easier to retrieve or replace, right?

/What's the difference between registering/licensing guns and registering/licensing cars?

Ask an old Jew that one day.


The answer was "one gets you to the market, the other is a bad investment". No charge.
 
2012-12-10 02:42:22 AM  
Let's be sure and make this a Republican vs Democrat thread. This place is really getting bad.

I know....

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2012-12-10 02:45:17 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: LittleSmitty: What kind of "security guard" carries a .25? Most .25's are tiny and the accuracy is horrid. It's a pocket gun fer crying out loud.

It's one step up from a pellet gun. Maybe. Depending on the pellet gun.


I owned a .25 Raven for a while. One step up from a cap gun maybe. My .22 pump pellet rifle is probably a better weapon. Certainly more accurate.
 
2012-12-10 02:47:15 AM  
/What's the difference between registering/licensing guns and registering/licensing cars?

The difference is that there are not multiple, large political groups lobbying for laws to take away our cars.

/Proud owner of a rifle that is illegal in California, Massachusetts, and Canada.
//Still want to get out of the right wing insanity of Texas.
///Gay marriage, legal marijuana, and liberal (meaning free, not left wing) gun laws? Washington is looking real good!
 
2012-12-10 02:48:01 AM  

BMulligan: shaft6969: dear subby, "per diem" and "a day" are precisely and exactly the same thing and using them like that was both duplicative and repetitive. i find that to be unnecessary and extraneous.

I would like to repeat everything shaft6969 says here. Again.


I hear smitty likes salsa sauce.
 
2012-12-10 02:51:20 AM  

fatassbastard: BMulligan: shaft6969: dear subby, "per diem" and "a day" are precisely and exactly the same thing and using them like that was both duplicative and repetitive. i find that to be unnecessary and extraneous.

I would like to repeat everything shaft6969 says here. Again.

I hear smitty likes salsa sauce.


He's memorized the PIN number he needs to operate the ATM machine, too.
 
2012-12-10 02:52:47 AM  

Moriel: Gay marriage, legal marijuana, and liberal (meaning free, not left wing) gun laws? Washington is looking real good!


You'd hate it here. Trust me.
 
2012-12-10 02:53:20 AM  

Moriel: /What's the difference between registering/licensing guns and registering/licensing cars?

The difference is that there are not multiple, large political groups lobbying for laws to take away our cars.

/Proud owner of a rifle that is illegal in California, Massachusetts, and Canada.
//Still want to get out of the right wing insanity of Texas.
///Gay marriage, legal marijuana, and liberal (meaning free, not left wing) gun laws? Washington is looking real good!


Whoever left this comment really needs to learn how to edit them correctly! All bold? No quote attribution? Get a brain moran!
 
2012-12-10 02:59:39 AM  

BMulligan: Moriel: Gay marriage, legal marijuana, and liberal (meaning free, not left wing) gun laws? Washington is looking real good!

You'd hate it here. Trust me.


Eh. I hate Texas already, so that wouldn't be any different. At least I'd be some place with mountains and forests, instead of miles and miles of swamp fading into concrete. And the idea that my next door neighbors would not think of me as a potential target would be nice. Seriously. KKK recruiting on my street? It's more likely than you think! Happened, actually. As a lesbian, atheist, tree-hugger, who refused to vote for Obama because he's too far to the right, I have to say that I'd rather have liberal neighbors tut-tutting about my guns, than the current neighbors who glare and tell me that I'm going to Hell and they could shoot me legally if they wanted to. (Yes, that has happened too. There's a lot of good people in Texas, but mostly they don't live near me.)
 
2012-12-10 03:02:16 AM  

shaft6969: dear subby, "per diem" and "a day" are precisely and exactly the same thing and using them like that was both duplicative and repetitive. i find that to be unnecessary and extraneous.


SEIZE THE DIEM!!!
 
2012-12-10 03:04:06 AM  

shaft6969: dear subby, "per diem" and "a day" are precisely and exactly the same thing and using them like that was both duplicative and repetitive. i find that to be unnecessary and extraneous.


But did you find it redundant?
 
2012-12-10 03:05:34 AM  

doglover: He must be one of Marcone's men.


Not anymore he ain't, Marcone isn't exactly a fan of failure in his people.

/Still gotta read Cold Days soon here...
 
2012-12-10 03:08:31 AM  
He got the phantom security guard job to get the gun. Duh.

Most pols used to become Holiday Court Deputies for the Cook County Sherriff but that got ruined years ago by a few of their "finest."
 
2012-12-10 03:09:08 AM  

BronyMedic: cretinbob: And another CIA agent gets outed

[www.blakesnyder.com image 303x400]


Fark It: Because the NRA totally advocates trying to bring guns on to planes.

Credit where credit is due. My grandfather bought me a lifetime membership to the NRA at 14 which I later canceled because they went full retard on the derp as Charlton Heston slipped further into madness, and the ultra-right wingers took it over..


Even so, Charleston Heston takes scifi seriously and his bringing Soylent Green to life somewhat alleviates his NRA nonsense.
 
2012-12-10 03:14:12 AM  

Moriel: The difference is that there are not multiple, large political groups lobbying for laws to take away our cars.


And I'm happy to direct the same question to those groups or any other anti-gun douches.

I dunno. I just don't see a huge difference between cars and guns. They're useful tools that can be dangerous if used incorrectly; safety and how-to classes are necessary for using them properly; licenses, registrations and certain very minor restrictions (like drunk-driving laws) are ideal and make things easier for their owners (and non-owners) in the long run.
 
2012-12-10 03:15:27 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: [words]


... This conversation has fark all to do with TFA, doesn't it. Oh well. :P
 
2012-12-10 03:16:41 AM  

MisterTweak: Smeggy Smurf: Fluorescent Testicle: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Ah, Chicago. It makes total sense now. Here in Pennsylvania we trust our citizens, sorry about your luck.

Eh. I'm completely pro-Second Amendment and I'm fine with (and prefer) firearms registration. I don't see it as a "Trust" issue; even when it comes to the most trustworthy, knowledgeable owner, accidents happen and thieves exist. For the sake of argument, let's imagine that somebody stole your gun - if it's registered, it should be easier to retrieve or replace, right?

/What's the difference between registering/licensing guns and registering/licensing cars?

Ask an old Jew that one day.

The answer was "one gets you to the market, the other is a bad investment". No charge.


I do not think that was his angle. Think Warsaw Resistance.
 
2012-12-10 03:17:11 AM  

LittleSmitty: Summercat: LittleSmitty: What kind of "security guard" carries a .25? Most .25's are tiny and the accuracy is horrid. It's a pocket gun fer crying out loud.

Does it make a loud noise when fired, especially in an otherwise quiet night?

/There's your answer.

By that logic, a cap gun or maybe a large pot and a wooden spoon would be sufficient.

And as far as I know, security gaurds don't randomly pop off a cap to scare away a criminal.

/Try a new answer


You would be wrong. At least about the "randomly" part. Often they randomly pop off caps, though more often it's because they're dumber than a sackful of broken hammers than to scare away criminals.
 
2012-12-10 03:19:26 AM  

doglover: He must be one of Marcone's men.


Thats Gentleman Marcone
 
2012-12-10 03:20:36 AM  

fusillade762: shaft6969: dear subby, "per diem" and "a day" are precisely and exactly the same thing and using them like that was both duplicative and repetitive. i find that to be unnecessary and extraneous.

SEIZE THE DIEM!!!


Carpe diem

/farking slackers
 
2012-12-10 03:25:13 AM  
Carpe ubera.

/Seize the boobs.
 
2012-12-10 03:31:20 AM  

SnakeLee: Oooh $67k! He is practically a millionare


I know, right? Damn 1%er.

Srsly, do people really think 67k is a big annual salary?
 
2012-12-10 03:35:20 AM  
The arrest yesterday of Illinois Democrat Donne Trotter by TSA agents for attempting to bring a .25-caliber Beretta pistol on an airplane at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport demonstrates the hypocrisy of the anti-Second Amendment crowd.

Trotter is charged with one count of attempting to board an airplane with a weapon, a Class 4 felony.

Donne Trotter is a long-time gun-grabber. He opposed concealed carry legislation in the state and worked to outlaw so-called assault weapons. During an unsuccessful Democratic primary bid in 2000 against U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush, he criticized his opponent for missing a special legislative session attacking the right of Illinois citizens to own firearms.

In 1995, Trotter went up against fellow state senator Kirk Dillard after the Republican proposed a concealed carry law. Trotter argued that passing the law would turn citizens into vigilantes.

"Trotter is a South Side Democrat and he was a leader in the move to ban so-called 'assault weapons' during his first term as a state representative," said Alan Gottlieb, chairman of Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, in a press release. "A man who favored banning firearms for thousands of his fellow Illinois residents shouldn't even have a gun, much less be packing one illegally into an airport."

"Senator Trotter, by his own action, has demonstrated the monumental hypocrisy of gun control advocates who try to disarm average citizens while reserving the right to bear arms for themselves alone," Gottlieb continued. "He should not even be serving in the state legislature, much less be running for a seat in Congress, which already has its share of gun prohibition hypocrites."

Trotter's arrest follows remarks by sportscaster Bob Costas and sports writer Jason Whitlock after linebacker Jovan Belcher killed his girlfriend and then committed suicide with a handgun. "If Jovan Belcher didn't possess a gun, he and Kassandra Perkins would both be alive today," Costas said Sunday, citing an article condemning the Second Amendment.

link
 
2012-12-10 03:42:25 AM  
As somebody who lives in San Francisco I know why a state senator making 67K a year is moonlighting for a security firm.
 
2012-12-10 03:45:21 AM  

giftedmadness: "If Jovan Belcher didn't possess a gun, he and Kassandra Perkins would both be alive today," the murder would have been much more brutal."


FTFY. You had some derp on your point.
 
2012-12-10 03:47:27 AM  

Moriel: The difference is that there are not multiple, large political groups lobbying for laws to take away our cars.


Mitt Romney's Republicans?
 
2012-12-10 03:55:43 AM  

doglover: giftedmadness: "If Jovan Belcher didn't possess a gun, he and Kassandra Perkins would both be alive today," the murder would have been much more brutal."

FTFY. You had some derp on your point.


wtf...the part you fixed was a quote from Costas you farking moron.
 
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