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(The New York Times)   Norwegian who parachuted into Nazi occupied territory on skis to blow up Hitler's nuclear weapons program using a 30-second fuse has just died at age 101 wishing he had accomplished something with his life   (nytimes.com) divider line 116
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2012-12-10 12:43:14 AM
My first thought was could make a good movie then I read...

He and other members of the mission at Norsk Hydro received medals from several Allied countries. In 1965, Hollywood produced "The Heroes of Telemark," a film starring Kirk Douglas and Richard Harris that included shootouts, dramatic chases through the snow and love scenes. The soldiers roundly panned the movie as unrealistic.

"He saw that," Mr. Stromsheim's son said. "He didn't like it. It was too glamorous."


Real soldiers are real.

Sounds like a good man. RIP.
 
2012-12-10 12:49:50 AM
I've beaten that level before. Piece'O'cake.

/Job well done, Sir.
 
2012-12-10 01:01:45 AM
Now I want to watch this movie again:

img.movieberry.com 

Oh dear lord, I just read the copy on that poster. Forgive me.
 
2012-12-10 01:14:28 AM

fusillade762: Now I want to watch this movie again:

[img.movieberry.com image 500x755] 

Oh dear lord, I just read the copy on that poster. Forgive me.


I wanna see Barbara Bach blow more than a bridge.
 
2012-12-10 01:15:17 AM
The Hero tag has never been more appropriate.

/Rest in peace, valiant warrior.
 
2012-12-10 02:25:04 AM
^ What he said.
 
2012-12-10 04:32:34 AM

Apos: The Hero tag has never been more appropriate.

/Rest in peace, valiant warrior.


This +1,000,000
 
2012-12-10 04:39:53 AM
FTA: They lighted a 30-second fuse and ran.
....they lit a 30-second fuse?????
/grammar Nazi
 
2012-12-10 04:44:13 AM
Is this the mostly nonexistent one that Heisenberg was in charge of.
 
2012-12-10 04:48:13 AM
I always like to think of their reactions during the mission briefing.

"Alright guys, we got intel that the nazzies are building a NUCLEAR BOMB. You're gonna skii down a massive hill, infiltrate a fortified base and light a bomb with a -- get this -- 30-second fuse."

"Okay."
 
2012-12-10 04:48:41 AM

fusillade762: Oh dear lord, I just read the copy on that poster. Forgive me.


Please tell me that is a 'shop.

Baumli: FTA: They lighted a 30-second fuse and ran.
....they lit a 30-second fuse?????
/grammar Nazi


This guy has earned the right to do whatever the hell he wants.
 
2012-12-10 05:03:51 AM

Lionel Mandrake: I wanna see Barbara Bach blow more than a bridge.


You made me picture her blowing her husband, Ringo Starr.

/thanks
 
2012-12-10 05:07:39 AM
To be sure, most movies about WWII made in the 60s were just to melodramatic and not even close to being truthful. Remember Battle of the Bulge with Henry Fonda? They used the US Patton tank, a Vietnam era tank, to represent the Nazi "super tank". Guns of Navaronne, while entertaining, was not very close to real. The Longest Day was pretty close to real, as was the 1970s, Battle Of Britain, The Man That Never Was and Sink The Bismarck. But most of the others had too much unnecessary love interest scenes and glommed multiple soldiers' war histories onto one or two characters.
 
2012-12-10 05:11:35 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com
RIP
 
2012-12-10 05:15:39 AM
my first reaction was:
"boy, with a bit of luck, he'll have a Hollywood movie made about it
- with americans in place of norvegians, of course!"

I looked up the wiki, and no, "The Heroes of Telemark" is not as shameless as "U-whatever"(about stealing the enigma from that U-Boot), Pearl-harbor and others of todays "historical" flicks.
From the Wiki:

"Other versions

Ray Mears made a documentary entitled The Real Heroes of Telemark. Despite mainly sticking to the factual evidence, some scenes in the documentary, like the film, were partly dramatised, focusing more on the survival skills involved in the operation.

The same story was also covered in the 1948 Franco-Norwegian film Kampen om tungtvannet (La bataille de l'eau lourde - "The battle for heavy water"). Quite faithful to the real events, it even had many of the original Norwegian commandos starring as themselves.
Cast"
 
2012-12-10 05:22:05 AM

Baumli: FTA: They lighted a 30-second fuse and ran.
....they lit a 30-second fuse?????
/grammar Nazi


I will waddle into your room wearing clogs and spill diet coke into your keyboard.

/The new kind of heroism
 
2012-12-10 05:25:21 AM
Rest well, you motherfarking badass.

/Job well done.
 
2012-12-10 05:26:02 AM
Norwegians were simply awesome.

When they weren't suplying their hovercrafts with eels, they were planning to parachute into Nazi territory to blow up Hitler.

Plus, Thor is their god. Packing a hammer that shoots lightning, and smashes shiat up.

How awesome is that?
 
2012-12-10 05:29:04 AM
"You had a tent?!"
i50.tinypic.com

// but seriously
// did he have a tent?
 
2012-12-10 05:29:18 AM
Good night, sir.

May as well figure out how to get Hollywood to do a remake.
 
2012-12-10 05:40:43 AM
Was it confirmed that it was a heavy water plant? I mean the info did come from British intelligence...

/trolling

/Love stories like this.
 
2012-12-10 05:41:14 AM
Greatest Generation: Performed countless acts of humble greatness and self-sacrifice for the greater good.

Your Generation: Can't wait to post their outrage when the fast food drive-thru is too slow

Thank you for your service, Mr. 200-mile skiing, Nazi-heavy-water-facility-exploding Guy.
 
2012-12-10 05:41:41 AM
I'm a bit impressed at the first group who escaped, lived off rock food and deer meat, and McGyvered a radio until the 2nd group met up with them..then went and completed the mission.
 
2012-12-10 05:50:15 AM
What a badass.
 
2012-12-10 06:01:26 AM
oldies.s3.amazonaws.com

You can order the movie online from Walmart for $9.50 with free shipping to the store. (click graphic) (new window)
 
2012-12-10 06:06:37 AM

Devolving_Spud: Greatest Generation: Performed countless acts of humble greatness and self-sacrifice for the greater good.-and to provide the next generation with a world free from tyranny.

Your Generation: Can't wait to post their outrage when the fast food drive-thru is too slow
Inherits an awesome world, and farks up the planet for all future generations through greed and laziness because it doesn't wanna give up its hummers.


Seriously. Thinking about the shiat that my grandparents did to give me an awesome life, and thinking about how little anyone my age gives a shiat about the world they're leaving for future generations gives me a sad.
 
2012-12-10 06:14:24 AM
cdn5.triplepundit.com

So what? I waited in line for a new iPhone for 4 hours, and it was chilly THE WHOLE TIME!

/modern humans are lame
//not all of 'em though
///but most of 'em
 
2012-12-10 06:19:53 AM

Devolving_Spud: Greatest Generation: Performed countless acts of humble greatness and self-sacrifice for the greater good.


Misty-eyed romantic crap. Of course there was that. But there was also monumental farktardery.
There are heroes and bums in every age.

There are Germans with the same ideas about their Greatest Generation too..but I'm glad those old bastards have been replaced by modern Deutsche Pussies.
 
2012-12-10 06:23:53 AM
I visited the heavy water plant in Rjukan and my Norwegian host had tears running
down her face while she gave me a tour. Very moving experience.
 
2012-12-10 06:33:19 AM

0Icky0: Misty-eyed romantic crap. Of course there was that. But there was also monumental farktardery.
There are heroes and bums in every age.


Nah dude. There is monumentally more farktardery in our generation.
I mean, yeah, obviously there were the grandparents of ours that started that war. But just from the North-American perspective, there's no comparison.
I get it, it sucks to have to face up to the fact that our generation has failed in the basic moral test of "not completely screwing up the planet", but it's the reality; there's just no way in hell our grandkids are going to be calling us "the greatest generation".
 
2012-12-10 06:45:44 AM
I invented the turducken, but you don't see me tooting my horn about it all over the place. Heroes don't do that. We just go straight up hero.
 
2012-12-10 06:49:21 AM
How big of a parachute do you to safely land 500 lb balls?
 
2012-12-10 06:55:04 AM

sudo give me more cowbell: there's just no way in hell our grandkids are going to be calling us "the greatest generation".


There is no way that "The Greatest Generation's" parents called them that either. Because they were looking back to a more "noble" age themselves. Their "Greatest Generation" was the one that fought the Civil War. Even the Southern traitors saw their fathers that way.
 
2012-12-10 06:55:11 AM

monty666: I invented the turducken, but you don't see me tooting my horn about it all over the place.


If I invented a food with "turd" in the name, I'd hide away in shame, as well...
 
2012-12-10 06:58:41 AM

RobSeace: monty666: I invented the turducken, but you don't see me tooting my horn about it all over the place.

If I invented a food with "turd" in the name, I'd hide away in shame, as well...


If I boned your mom and she squirted you out, I'd hide in shame too.
 
2012-12-10 07:10:50 AM

0Icky0: Devolving_Spud: Greatest Generation: Performed countless acts of humble greatness and self-sacrifice for the greater good.

Misty-eyed romantic crap. Of course there was that. But there was also monumental farktardery.
There are heroes and bums in every age.

There are Germans with the same ideas about their Greatest Generation too..but I'm glad those old bastards have been replaced by modern Deutsche Pussies.


I had a minor car accident with an old guy.
It was actualy more his fault, but I was driving kinda to fast, and he was driving some blind guy around and was very nice, and did'n start by insulting me like german cagers normaly do... so I agreed to pai for the small damage to his car (old east-germans are poor).
We met at his flat, where he told me proudly he was in the U-Boots during the War. And there was no way he could'nt have noticed I was french and realy not nazi.
I was so shocked I didn't answer anything. But dude...
 
2012-12-10 07:29:10 AM

sudo give me more cowbell: Devolving_Spud: Greatest Generation: Performed countless acts of humble greatness and self-sacrifice for the greater good.-and to provide the next generation with a world free from tyranny.

Your Generation: Can't wait to post their outrage when the fast food drive-thru is too slow
Inherits an awesome world, and farks up the planet for all future generations through greed and laziness because it doesn't wanna give up its hummers.


Seriously. Thinking about the shiat that my grandparents did to give me an awesome life, and thinking about how little anyone my age gives a shiat about the world they're leaving for future generations gives me a sad.


I agree with you, but I have read that there is a movement led by a flow farmer to have a 15 yr old Hallmark card removed from circulation because it may harm 13 yr old girls feelings. He/She appears to feel strongly about it so we have that going for us which is nice as always.

/RIP awesome soldier and thanks for all you did.
 
2012-12-10 07:30:54 AM

On-Off: We met at his flat, where he told me proudly he was in the U-Boots during the War. And there was no way he could'nt have noticed I was french and realy not nazi.
I was so shocked I didn't answer anything. But dude...


I've got a German friend in Thailand who's grandfathers were both high-ranking SS officers. (One of them blew his brains out on VE day). He's got that guy's Iron Cross hanging in his office. He's hugely proud of his German Greatest Generation.
But still...he has no problem mixing his Aryan seed with Thai women. So he's got that going for him.
 
2012-12-10 07:36:36 AM
The New York Times is reporting this a month late. Ah well, it took the two years to find out that there was a war going on, so I suppose things are getting a little better.
 
2012-12-10 07:37:49 AM

On-Off: We met at his flat, where he told me proudly he was in the U-Boots during the War. And there was no way he could'nt have noticed I was french and realy not nazi.
I was so shocked I didn't answer anything. But dude...


ERIC: "Look, Dad, I need my car. Don't you remember when you were in high school? I bet you had some good times driving around senior year with your friends."

RED: "My senior year I was driving a gunboat around Okinawa. And if you count the Japanese snipers as my friends...then, yes, I had some good times."

KITTY: "You have to understand, Eric. It's not that you're father's trying to be a bad guy. It's just that he's been irreparably damaged by war."
 
2012-12-10 07:40:56 AM
Oh holy hell I spit coffee on my phone and it deserves it. That flow farmer is really a farker. Looking at Robin Meade while trying to type.
 
2012-12-10 07:44:52 AM

dericwater: To be sure, most movies about WWII made in the 60s were just to melodramatic and not even close to being truthful. Remember Battle of the Bulge with Henry Fonda? They used the US Patton tank, a Vietnam era tank, to represent the Nazi "super tank". Guns of Navaronne, while entertaining, was not very close to real. The Longest Day was pretty close to real, as was the 1970s, Battle Of Britain, The Man That Never Was and Sink The Bismarck. But most of the others had too much unnecessary love interest scenes and glommed multiple soldiers' war histories onto one or two characters.


The ones I love are the war time propaganda movies. Hero's like Ronald Regan shoot their way through dozens, if not hundreds of completely dehumanized enemy soldiers. While the depictions of the German soldiers are simplistic, the Japanese are depicted as subhuman monsters.
 
2012-12-10 07:46:09 AM

0Icky0: sudo give me more cowbell: there's just no way in hell our grandkids are going to be calling us "the greatest generation".

There is no way that "The Greatest Generation's" parents called them that either. Because they were looking back to a more "noble" age themselves. Their "Greatest Generation" was the one that fought the Civil War. Even the Southern traitors saw their fathers that way.


No, but regardless of what their parents might have thought, a better measure of each generation's contribution is to be evaluated in retrospect. The question is about how each generation will be remembered.
I'm just saying, right now we can look at what our grandparents did and think "yeah, they saved our asses." but in 60 years, our grandkids are gonna be looking at what we did and thinking "yeah, they could have very easily made our lives easier, but instead they farked us over because it was 0.1% cheaper to drill more oil than to build a few solar panels."
 
2012-12-10 07:47:07 AM

dericwater: To be sure, most movies about WWII made in the 60s were just to melodramatic and not even close to being truthful. Remember Battle of the Bulge with Henry Fonda? They used the US Patton tank, a Vietnam era tank, to represent the Nazi "super tank". Guns of Navaronne, while entertaining, was not very close to real. The Longest Day was pretty close to real, as was the 1970s, Battle Of Britain, The Man That Never Was and Sink The Bismarck. But most of the others had too much unnecessary love interest scenes and glommed multiple soldiers' war histories onto one or two characters.


"Battle of the Bulge" can be forgiven for using US equipment for tanks that were for the most part unavailable at the time of filming. It's similar to how film-makers of "Tora Tora Tora" had to use what was available to represent Japanese aircraft.

Which brings up a great point, that "Tora Tora Tora" is perhaps the best of the WWII films, telling history like it pretty much was with almost zero distortions. It even beats out "Das Boot", which is perhaps the best submarine film, but it has some serious flaws, a major one being that in late 1941, the U-boats were at the height of their power, or nearly so, and moral in the U-bootwaffe was at it's peak. The film should have been set in mid-to-late 1943, which is when the Battle of the Atlantic had actually noticeably turned against the Nazis.

Another interesting contrast is between "Tora Tora Tora" and "Battle of Midway": Both tackled real historical events, but while TTT stuck to history and is a gripping film, BOM falls victim to the malady you describe, injecting an unnecessary love story (between a pilot and a Japanese-American girl, no less!). That, and the over-use of stock footage really brought down the potential for a good film. The events surrounding the battle of Midway *SHOULD* be made into a good film, but probably never will be.
 
2012-12-10 07:54:48 AM

BigBooper: The ones I love are the war time propaganda movies. Hero's like Ronald Regan shoot their way through dozens, if not hundreds of completely dehumanized enemy soldiers. While the depictions of the German soldiers are simplistic, the Japanese are depicted as subhuman monsters.


Contrast that with the original "Red Dawn", where the 'bad guys' are shown to be human, and the 'good guys' are asshole bullies (Jed Eckert), psychopathic killers (Robert Morris), psychologically damaged rape victims (Toni and Erica Mason), turncoats (Daryl Bates), or cynical (Colonel Tanner).
 
2012-12-10 07:58:00 AM

RobSeace: monty666: I invented the turducken, but you don't see me tooting my horn about it all over the place.

If I invented a food with "turd" in the name, I'd hide away in shame, as well...


If I could toot my own horn, I wouldn't waste my time posting on Fark.
 
2012-12-10 07:58:53 AM
I hate the way the term "hero" is thrown around, but this guy was the real deal.

RIP
 
2012-12-10 08:13:07 AM

dittybopper: dericwater: To be sure, most movies about WWII made in the 60s were just to melodramatic and not even close to being truthful. Remember Battle of the Bulge with Henry Fonda? They used the US Patton tank, a Vietnam era tank, to represent the Nazi "super tank". Guns of Navaronne, while entertaining, was not very close to real. The Longest Day was pretty close to real, as was the 1970s, Battle Of Britain, The Man That Never Was and Sink The Bismarck. But most of the others had too much unnecessary love interest scenes and glommed multiple soldiers' war histories onto one or two characters.

"Battle of the Bulge" can be forgiven for using US equipment for tanks that were for the most part unavailable at the time of filming. It's similar to how film-makers of "Tora Tora Tora" had to use what was available to represent Japanese aircraft.

Which brings up a great point, that "Tora Tora Tora" is perhaps the best of the WWII films, telling history like it pretty much was with almost zero distortions. It even beats out "Das Boot", which is perhaps the best submarine film, but it has some serious flaws, a major one being that in late 1941, the U-boats were at the height of their power, or nearly so, and moral in the U-bootwaffe was at it's peak. The film should have been set in mid-to-late 1943, which is when the Battle of the Atlantic had actually noticeably turned against the Nazis.

Another interesting contrast is between "Tora Tora Tora" and "Battle of Midway": Both tackled real historical events, but while TTT stuck to history and is a gripping film, BOM falls victim to the malady you describe, injecting an unnecessary love story (between a pilot and a Japanese-American girl, no less!). That, and the over-use of stock footage really brought down the potential for a good film. The events surrounding the battle of Midway *SHOULD* be made into a good film, but probably never will be.


BOM was screwed up by putting in Charlton Heston in it. That guy is such a terrible actor, even in Ben-Hur.
 
2012-12-10 08:16:28 AM

dericwater: BOM was screwed up by putting in Charlton Heston in it. That guy is such a terrible actor, even in Ben-Hur.


Even with a different actor, it still would have been a mess. I blame the writer, director, and producer.
 
2012-12-10 08:19:22 AM
I read Thor Hyerdahl's biography a few decades back. He was one of these guys who were dropped there for these missions. The whole Kon Tiki thing would have to wait a decade.
 
2012-12-10 08:20:47 AM

quatchi: My first thought was could make a good movie then I read...

He and other members of the mission at Norsk Hydro received medals from several Allied countries. In 1965, Hollywood produced "The Heroes of Telemark," a film starring Kirk Douglas and Richard Harris that included shootouts, dramatic chases through the snow and love scenes. The soldiers roundly panned the movie as unrealistic.

"He saw that," Mr. Stromsheim's son said. "He didn't like it. It was too glamorous."

Real soldiers are real.

Sounds like a good man. RIP.


One thing you might not really appreciate is that it's hard to make a gripping film of something that involves very little action, and a whole bunch of waiting.

I mean, I really enjoy hunting. I can spend hours in the woods looking for deer. It's an exciting thing to be actively looking for something to shoot. But a film about just that would be boring as Hell without some action. I suspect that the majority of things like this are the same: There wasn't a lot of actual *ACTION*, even if it was exciting and potentially dangerous to be actually accomplishing those feats.
 
2012-12-10 08:22:37 AM

jgilb: I visited the heavy water plant in Rjukan and my Norwegian host had tears running
down her face while she gave me a tour. Very moving experience.


You shouldn't have hit her.
 
2012-12-10 08:25:06 AM

dittybopper: dericwater: To be sure, most movies about WWII made in the 60s were just to melodramatic and not even close to being truthful. Remember Battle of the Bulge with Henry Fonda? They used the US Patton tank, a Vietnam era tank, to represent the Nazi "super tank". Guns of Navaronne, while entertaining, was not very close to real. The Longest Day was pretty close to real, as was the 1970s, Battle Of Britain, The Man That Never Was and Sink The Bismarck. But most of the others had too much unnecessary love interest scenes and glommed multiple soldiers' war histories onto one or two characters.

"Battle of the Bulge" can be forgiven for using US equipment for tanks that were for the most part unavailable at the time of filming. It's similar to how film-makers of "Tora Tora Tora" had to use what was available to represent Japanese aircraft.

Which brings up a great point, that "Tora Tora Tora" is perhaps the best of the WWII films, telling history like it pretty much was with almost zero distortions. It even beats out "Das Boot", which is perhaps the best submarine film, but it has some serious flaws, a major one being that in late 1941, the U-boats were at the height of their power, or nearly so, and moral in the U-bootwaffe was at it's peak. The film should have been set in mid-to-late 1943, which is when the Battle of the Atlantic had actually noticeably turned against the Nazis.

Another interesting contrast is between "Tora Tora Tora" and "Battle of Midway": Both tackled real historical events, but while TTT stuck to history and is a gripping film, BOM falls victim to the malady you describe, injecting an unnecessary love story (between a pilot and a Japanese-American girl, no less!). That, and the over-use of stock footage really brought down the potential for a good film. The events surrounding the battle of Midway *SHOULD* be made into a good film, but probably never will be.


Lived in Honolulu when they were filming Tora Tora Tora. Newspapers warned us not to be alarmed if we saw what looked like Japanese planes flying low over town. It was 1970.

Quite a few grown ups hadn't forgotten.
 
2012-12-10 08:30:56 AM

Generation_D: Lived in Honolulu when they were filming Tora Tora Tora. Newspapers warned us not to be alarmed if we saw what looked like Japanese planes flying low over town. It was 1970.

Quite a few grown ups hadn't forgotten.


Well, in 1970 it had only been 29 years earlier. Someone 20 years old in 1941 would have been 49 in 1970, an age I am rapidly approaching myself, and one I consider relatively young.

/Met a WWI vet when I was a kid.
//Long dead by now.
///The vet, not the kid in me.
 
2012-12-10 08:40:27 AM
orbister: The New York Times is reporting this a month late. Ah well, it took the two years to find out that there was a war going on, so I suppose things are getting a little better.

Oh, I am sure the New York Times reported on the invasion of Poland and subsequent events from day one.
 
2012-12-10 08:44:50 AM
meh,

doesn't beat Valkoinen Kiolema, aka White Death

Link
 
2012-12-10 08:45:45 AM
Generation_D: dittybopper: dericwater: To be sure, most movies about WWII made in the 60s were just to melodramatic and not even close to being truthful. Remember Battle of the Bulge with Henry Fonda? They used the US Patton tank, a Vietnam era tank, to represent the Nazi "super tank". Guns of Navaronne, while entertaining, was not very close to real. The Longest Day was pretty close to real, as was the 1970s, Battle Of Britain, The Man That Never Was and Sink The Bismarck. But most of the others had too much unnecessary love interest scenes and glommed multiple soldiers' war histories onto one or two characters.

"Battle of the Bulge" can be forgiven for using US equipment for tanks that were for the most part unavailable at the time of filming. It's similar to how film-makers of "Tora Tora Tora" had to use what was available to represent Japanese aircraft.

Which brings up a great point, that "Tora Tora Tora" is perhaps the best of the WWII films, telling history like it pretty much was with almost zero distortions. It even beats out "Das Boot", which is perhaps the best submarine film, but it has some serious flaws, a major one being that in late 1941, the U-boats were at the height of their power, or nearly so, and moral in the U-bootwaffe was at it's peak. The film should have been set in mid-to-late 1943, which is when the Battle of the Atlantic had actually noticeably turned against the Nazis.

Another interesting contrast is between "Tora Tora Tora" and "Battle of Midway": Both tackled real historical events, but while TTT stuck to history and is a gripping film, BOM falls victim to the malady you describe, injecting an unnecessary love story (between a pilot and a Japanese-American girl, no less!). That, and the over-use of stock footage really brought down the potential for a good film. The events surrounding the battle of Midway *SHOULD* be made into a good film, but probably never will be.

Lived in Honolulu when they were filming Tora Tora Tora. Newspapers ...


I thought filming wrapped in June of '69?
 
2012-12-10 08:46:44 AM
"The combined group then made its way to the opposite side of a steep gorge from the Norsk Hydro facility. With the only bridge across guarded by Nazis, they descended to the bottom and climbed to the top on the other side."

Motherfarkers were really determined to blow up that place. All that climbing even with onions on their belts.
 
2012-12-10 08:49:16 AM

dittybopper: RobSeace: monty666: I invented the turducken, but you don't see me tooting my horn about it all over the place.

If I invented a food with "turd" in the name, I'd hide away in shame, as well...

If I could toot my own horn, I wouldn't waste my time posting on Fark.


No, you'd be making cheesy amateur autofellatio porn.
 
2012-12-10 08:50:54 AM

0Icky0: On-Off: We met at his flat, where he told me proudly he was in the U-Boots during the War. And there was no way he could'nt have noticed I was french and realy not nazi.
I was so shocked I didn't answer anything. But dude...

I've got a German friend in Thailand who's grandfathers were both high-ranking SS officers. (One of them blew his brains out on VE day). He's got that guy's Iron Cross hanging in his office. He's hugely proud of his German Greatest Generation.
But still...he has no problem mixing his Aryan seed with Thai women. So he's got that going for him.


He should fly a swastika flag. Heritage, not hate you know.
 
2012-12-10 08:51:01 AM

ruinevil: Is this the mostly nonexistent one that Heisenberg was in charge of.


Not certain about that...
 
2012-12-10 08:51:42 AM
so i hear fark actually used the hero tag properly... is this true??

next thing you know they will accidentally use the ironic tag correctly

/cats and dogs living together
 
2012-12-10 08:59:43 AM
Too bad the Norwegians didn't honor his legacy and use some of their petro-dollars to buy a helicopter or zodiac boat to stop this guy:

static.guim.co.uk

/for Special Forces, talking about going from first to worst
 
2012-12-10 09:03:28 AM

Baumli: FTA: They lighted a 30-second fuse and ran.
....they lit a 30-second fuse?????
/grammar Nazi


Ironic use of grammar Nazi-ing

On a related note, I'm in awe of this gentleman. Rest peacefully, sir.
 
2012-12-10 09:06:02 AM

fusillade762: Now I want to watch this movie again:

[img.movieberry.com image 500x755] 

Oh dear lord, I just read the copy on that poster. Forgive me.


"Fighting on rough ground again"? The hell?
 
2012-12-10 09:07:29 AM

monty666: dittybopper: RobSeace: monty666: I invented the turducken, but you don't see me tooting my horn about it all over the place.

If I invented a food with "turd" in the name, I'd hide away in shame, as well...

If I could toot my own horn, I wouldn't waste my time posting on Fark.

No, you'd be making cheesy amateur autofellatio porn.


I disagree. It would be high quality amateur autofellatio porn.
 
2012-12-10 09:09:41 AM

rufus-t-firefly: He should fly a swastika flag. Heritage, not hate you know.


Well, he certainly isn't going to fly a banner with a rat's anus on it.
 
2012-12-10 09:17:36 AM

ingineervt: I'm a bit impressed at the first group who escaped, lived off rock food and deer meat, and McGyvered a radio until the 2nd group met up with them..then went and completed the mission.


Listen, and understand. The Norwegians are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. They will not stop, ever, until the Nazi nuclear weapons program is dead.
 
2012-12-10 09:23:10 AM

Baumli: FTA: They lighted a 30-second fuse and ran.
....they lit a 30-second fuse?????
/grammar Nazi


We all have our battles.
 
2012-12-10 09:26:33 AM
Too bad about the ferry.
 
2012-12-10 09:29:41 AM

dittybopper: quatchi: My first thought was could make a good movie then I read...

He and other members of the mission at Norsk Hydro received medals from several Allied countries. In 1965, Hollywood produced "The Heroes of Telemark," a film starring Kirk Douglas and Richard Harris that included shootouts, dramatic chases through the snow and love scenes. The soldiers roundly panned the movie as unrealistic.

"He saw that," Mr. Stromsheim's son said. "He didn't like it. It was too glamorous."

Real soldiers are real.

Sounds like a good man. RIP.

One thing you might not really appreciate is that it's hard to make a gripping film of something that involves very little action, and a whole bunch of waiting.

I mean, I really enjoy hunting. I can spend hours in the woods looking for deer. It's an exciting thing to be actively looking for something to shoot. But a film about just that would be boring as Hell without some action. I suspect that the majority of things like this are the same: There wasn't a lot of actual *ACTION*, even if it was exciting and potentially dangerous to be actually accomplishing those feats.


I liked this movie about hunting (kind of) and it didn't have too much action.

www.aceshowbiz.com
 
2012-12-10 09:31:41 AM
Lovely plummage
 
2012-12-10 09:33:39 AM

sudo give me more cowbell: but in 60 years, our grandkids are gonna be looking at what we did and thinking "yeah, they could have very easily made our lives easier, but instead they farked us over because it was 0.1% cheaper to drill more oil than to build a few solar panels."


I'm going to have to agree with you on this.
 
2012-12-10 09:36:18 AM
age 101 wishing he had accomplished something with his life

If only he had spent more time on Fark.
 
2012-12-10 09:36:24 AM

beta_plus: Too bad the Norwegians didn't honor his legacy and use some of their petro-dollars to buy a helicopter or zodiac boat to stop this guy:

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

/for Special Forces, talking about going from first to worst


THAT is what you took away from this? You need help
 
2012-12-10 09:36:49 AM

ruinevil: Is this the mostly nonexistent one that Heisenberg was in charge of.


Well, we knew exactly where the plant was but had no idea how quickly they were moving toward a working bomb.
 
2012-12-10 09:44:18 AM

beta_plus: Too bad the Norwegians didn't honor his legacy and use some of their petro-dollars to buy a helicopter or zodiac boat to stop this guy:

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

/for Special Forces, talking about going from first to worst


He's the latest one I like to point out when making an argument for the death penalty with friends. He did it and was proud of it--would do it again. He was sane, of at least average intelligence and in control of his actions. Now the citizens of Norway have to warehouse him the rest of his life in what amount to luxury prison accommodations while he looks back fondly on his "accomplishments" without even the remorse that one might feel at squashing a spider? No, he should die.

As for the real hero here, he was one of many all over Europe that fought to resist the Nazis. Those who fought and served have earned our praise and respect.
 
2012-12-10 09:46:08 AM

Raging Thespian


ruinevil: Is this the mostly nonexistent one that Heisenberg was in charge of.

Well, we knew exactly where the plant was but had no idea how quickly they were moving toward a working bomb.


*nerdy snicker*
 
2012-12-10 09:52:15 AM

dittybopper: quatchi: My first thought was could make a good movie then I read...

He and other members of the mission at Norsk Hydro received medals from several Allied countries. In 1965, Hollywood produced "The Heroes of Telemark," a film starring Kirk Douglas and Richard Harris that included shootouts, dramatic chases through the snow and love scenes. The soldiers roundly panned the movie as unrealistic.

"He saw that," Mr. Stromsheim's son said. "He didn't like it. It was too glamorous."

Real soldiers are real.

Sounds like a good man. RIP.

One thing you might not really appreciate is that it's hard to make a gripping film of something that involves very little action, and a whole bunch of waiting.

I mean, I really enjoy hunting. I can spend hours in the woods looking for deer. It's an exciting thing to be actively looking for something to shoot. But a film about just that would be boring as Hell without some action. I suspect that the majority of things like this are the same: There wasn't a lot of actual *ACTION*, even if it was exciting and potentially dangerous to be actually accomplishing those feats.


i.ytimg.com

"Hey, Ever wonder why we are here?"
"Its one of life's great mysteries... Were we made by some omnipotent being for some purpose or are we just some common coincident?"
"No, I meant why are we here in this canyon. What's all this stuff about God?"
"Um... nothing!"
"Want to talk about it?"
"No"

tv.shut.net

"So what are they doing?"
"Just standing there and talking. That's what they have been doing for the past 5 minutes. That's what they will be doing for the next 5 minutes when you ask."

The first few seasons were almost them just standing around and talking.
 
2012-12-10 10:11:30 AM

BigBooper: While the depictions of the German soldiers are simplistic, the Japanese are depicted as subhuman monsters.


Hollywood does portray some things accurately.
 
2012-12-10 10:13:31 AM
Yeah I just watched this documentary about him 

ecx.images-amazon.com 

Seriously though when I heard about this guy as a kid he was totally my hero for a while.

I don't know if this is his quote or just a Norwegian saying but I remember this was associated with him:

"A man who is a man goes on till he can do no more and then goes twice as far"
 
2012-12-10 10:14:05 AM

dittybopper: rufus-t-firefly: He should fly a swastika flag. Heritage, not hate you know.

Well, he certainly isn't going to fly a banner with a rat's anus on it.


Never seen them before. Thanks for that.

And the "Are we the baddies?" made me think of this: 

i48.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-10 10:19:12 AM

RobSeace: monty666: I invented the turducken, but you don't see me tooting my horn about it all over the place.

If I invented a food with "turd" in the name, I'd hide away in shame, as well...


Imagine how you'd feel if you invented sCRAPple!
 
2012-12-10 10:26:42 AM

RembrandtQEinstein: Yeah I just watched this documentary about him 

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300] 

Seriously though when I heard about this guy as a kid he was totally my hero for a while.

I don't know if this is his quote or just a Norwegian saying but I remember this was associated with him:

"A man who is a man goes on till he can do no more and then goes twice as far"


That movie is awesome.

/Bli en os.
/Bli ninja.
 
2012-12-10 10:55:45 AM
I'm in your debt, Mr. Stromsheim.

Great job, subby, and likely spot-on.

Now I'll get my umbrella out of the closet because there's a threat of rain, and I have to walk 30 feet to my car.
 
2012-12-10 11:06:00 AM

Devolving_Spud: Greatest Generation: Performed countless acts of humble greatness and self-sacrifice for the greater good.


....and responsible for spawning the Baby Boomers. Something went terribly wrong there, I think.
 
2012-12-10 11:06:40 AM

dericwater: To be sure, most movies about WWII made in the 60s were just to melodramatic and not even close to being truthful.


Counterpoint: To Hell and Back. OK, it was 1955, but still Audie Murphy had them take out some shiat that HE ACTUALLY DID because it was so over the top he didn't think people would believe it was real. The guy was that balls-out insane.
 
2012-12-10 11:09:12 AM
30. Second. Fuse.
Do you know how far away you can get in just 30 seconds? If you can use your legs? And aren't on a conveyor belt running the opposite direction? And your boots aren't tied together?

/plenty
 
2012-12-10 11:20:35 AM

Baumli: FTA: They lighted a 30-second fuse and ran.
....they lit a 30-second fuse?????
/grammar Nazi


Better turn in your jackboots, Fritz. Lighted is correct. Lit is wrong.
 
2012-12-10 11:42:54 AM

AgentKGB: That movie is awesome.


i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-10 11:46:03 AM
Ha ha ha, ja ja, you see zis? You see zis here vat I have told you? Yeah, zis is an example of smartness here. I have said that zis is ze quick fuse. Huh? And zis IS ze quick fuse.

THE QUICK FUSE!
 
2012-12-10 11:47:22 AM
Rest in peace, Norwegian dude, and thanks for kicking Nazi ass.
 
2012-12-10 11:51:40 AM
It's just unreal what some people seem to have casually done earlier in their lives, granted they had a hell of a big war going on to be doing things in but still. These stories need to be gathered from those who were there before they're gone forever.

RIP you giant balled SOE guy, this REMF Cold Warrior has nothing but respect for what you did.

/not a cold warrior in the sense that he was, out hiking in the snow & all but rather.... ah you know what I meant
 
2012-12-10 11:58:07 AM

Recoil Therapy: It's just unreal what some people seem to have casually done earlier in their lives, granted they had a hell of a big war going on to be doing things in but still. These stories need to be gathered from those who were there before they're gone forever.

RIP you giant balled SOE guy, this REMF Cold Warrior has nothing but respect for what you did.

/not a cold warrior in the sense that he was, out hiking in the snow & all but rather.... ah you know what I meant


Ironically, perhaps, I was a Cold Warrior who got stationed in Hawai'i. If it was a hot war, I suppose I would have ended up in Antarctica somewhere.

/It didn't suck.
 
2012-12-10 12:08:15 PM

hdhale: He's the latest one I like to point out when making an argument for the death penalty with friends. He did it and was proud of it--would do it again. He was sane, of at least average intelligence and in control of his actions. Now the citizens of Norway have to warehouse him the rest of his life in what amount to luxury prison accommodations while he looks back fondly on his "accomplishments" without even the remorse that one might feel at squashing a spider? No, he should die.


Don't know about Norway, but in these United States life imprisonment is cheaper than the death penalty (because of the mandatory appeals and reviews).

And if there's no Hell, it could be argued that life imprisonment is a harsher punishment.
 
2012-12-10 12:13:44 PM
What I want to know is how they made it down and up the ravine without the clanking of their huge titanium balls giving them away.

Damn.

/Hats off, and a salute to everyone on that team.
 
2012-12-10 12:13:45 PM
btw. Much better description of the mission here.
Balls. of. Steel.
 
2012-12-10 12:14:21 PM

trappedspirit: 30. Second. Fuse.
Do you know how far away you can get in just 30 seconds? If you can use your legs? And aren't on a conveyor belt running the opposite direction? And your boots aren't tied together?


However, the briefing probably contained statements such as, "This is some sort of doomsday device and it's theoretical and supposedly involves splitting atoms, and the top non-Nazi scientists are shiatting bricks and they say that a single explosion could wipe out an entire city and when they talked with me I started shiatting bricks and we don't really know what would happen if you blow up their lab and anyway you need to go and blow up their lab."
 
2012-12-10 12:16:19 PM

dittybopper: Ironically, perhaps, I was a Cold Warrior who got stationed in Hawai'i. If it was a hot war, I suppose I would have ended up in Antarctica somewhere.


My ironically perhaps is that if the Cold War went hot I would have been cold. My Guard unit was tasked to go take over the running of Ft. Richardson in Alaska (& a few other locations up there such as Adak) so that the 4th ID could head out & fight. I'm glad that it never came down to that, Adak Island in January would suck.

/I'm reading a book right now on the Battle of the Bulge - those were some true 'cold' warriors.
 
2012-12-10 12:40:13 PM

mofa: trappedspirit: 30. Second. Fuse.
Do you know how far away you can get in just 30 seconds? If you can use your legs? And aren't on a conveyor belt running the opposite direction? And your boots aren't tied together?

However, the briefing probably contained statements such as, "This is some sort of doomsday device and it's theoretical and supposedly involves splitting atoms, and the top non-Nazi scientists are shiatting bricks and they say that a single explosion could wipe out an entire city and when they talked with me I started shiatting bricks and we don't really know what would happen if you blow up their lab and anyway you need to go and blow up their lab."


What movie is that from?
 
2012-12-10 12:59:09 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: And if there's no Hell, it could be argued that life imprisonment is a harsher punishment.


Unless you pass a "slow death penalty" act, that requires you to keep the convicted person alive for X number of years while you slowly execute them.
 
2012-12-10 01:20:16 PM
The one with Bruce Willis and the skis, and after that he says, "okay."

//Seriously; I read the other link, and I wonder if the briefing also included, "And you'll land at night, in February, in the mountains, go cross country 18 miles, climb down a ravine, up the other side, go onto the site, go through a door that will be left open and blow up the plant with these two-minute fuses, then it's just a 250 mile cross-country sprint across the frozen tundra to Sweden."
//"Okay, but if the guy doesn't leave the door open, I may decide to use a 30-second fuse to reduce the risk that the Nazis might stop it."
 
2012-12-10 01:27:09 PM

sexorcisst: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x252]
RIP


He was a Norwegian, not every hero in WWII was Murican, you know?
 
2012-12-10 01:44:46 PM

dj1s: sexorcisst: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x252]
RIP

He was a Norwegian, not every hero in WWII was Murican, you know?


I would of taken that as even Cap himself acknowledges his badassary and bows his head in honor of another fallen WWII hero
 
2012-12-10 01:46:32 PM

BigBooper: dericwater: To be sure, most movies about WWII made in the 60s were just to melodramatic and not even close to being truthful. Remember Battle of the Bulge with Henry Fonda? They used the US Patton tank, a Vietnam era tank, to represent the Nazi "super tank". Guns of Navaronne, while entertaining, was not very close to real. The Longest Day was pretty close to real, as was the 1970s, Battle Of Britain, The Man That Never Was and Sink The Bismarck. But most of the others had too much unnecessary love interest scenes and glommed multiple soldiers' war histories onto one or two characters.

The ones I love are the war time propaganda movies. Hero's like Ronald Regan shoot their way through dozens, if not hundreds of completely dehumanized enemy soldiers. While the depictions of the German soldiers are simplistic, the Japanese are depicted as subhuman monsters.


Just happened to have recently watched Victory Through Airpower, the propaganda film financed and produced by Walt Disney. Fascinating to watch, almost too bad it's not really available anywhere.
 
2012-12-10 01:47:08 PM

signaljammer: Too bad about the ferry.


Its interesting (but obviously pointless 70 years later) to speculate about the wrongs or rights of the ferry sinking. At the time one must imagine that they were carrying out the mission as best they could see fit. If the Nazis had even the smallest chance of getting the bomb how many innocent deaths would that be worth to prevent?

/I have no idea....
 
2012-12-10 02:16:15 PM
"Norwegian who parachuted into Nazi occupied territory on skis to blow up Hitler's nuclear weapons program using a 30-second fuse"

Wow. That's ... a powerful fuse.
 
2012-12-10 03:45:43 PM

Speaker2Animals: Baumli: FTA: They lighted a 30-second fuse and ran.
....they lit a 30-second fuse?????
/grammar Nazi

Better turn in your jackboots, Fritz. Lighted is correct. Lit is wrong.


memedepot.com
?

lit: past and past participle of light1, light3.
light: ... verb (past lit /lit/; past participle lit or lighted) ... make (something) start burning; ignite: Allen gathered sticks and lit a fire
 
2012-12-10 04:47:02 PM

ruinevil: Is this the mostly nonexistent one that Heisenberg was in charge of.


The atom bomb was not a high priority for the Nazis...but would have become one if they ever got wind of the American effort. We were lucky they chose to go the heavy water route rather than the graphite route (based on data from impure graphite samples, the rumor goes), but their approach would also have worked.

Bottom line: If you're developing an atom bomb, and it looks like it's going to work, and you find out the other guy is also working on an atom bomb, and you have the opportunity to take out their project, DO IT.
 
2012-12-10 04:55:42 PM

RobSeace: Speaker2Animals: Baumli: FTA: They lighted a 30-second fuse and ran.
....they lit a 30-second fuse?????
/grammar Nazi

Better turn in your jackboots, Fritz. Lighted is correct. Lit is wrong.

[memedepot.com image 152x143]
?

lit: past and past participle of light1, light3.
light: ... verb (past lit /lit/; past participle lit or lighted) ... make (something) start burning; ignite: Allen gathered sticks and lit a fire


AP and UPI stylebooks both say lighted. Assume NYT would be the same.
 
2012-12-10 06:21:45 PM
Wow... I just read about this guy this afternoon. Bomb by Steve Sheinkin
 
2012-12-10 08:10:41 PM

Speaker2Animals: AP and UPI stylebooks both say lighted. Assume NYT would be the same.


Journalists are just one step above illiterate.
 
2012-12-10 09:41:09 PM

dittybopper: Speaker2Animals: AP and UPI stylebooks both say lighted. Assume NYT would be the same.

Journalists are just one step above illiterate.


Got turned down, eh?
 
2012-12-11 06:21:21 AM

Speaker2Animals: dittybopper: Speaker2Animals: AP and UPI stylebooks both say lighted. Assume NYT would be the same.

Journalists are just one step above illiterate.

Got turned down, eh?


Yes, in the same way I wasn't elected for public office. I decided to go with something a little less sleazy than journalism or politics, so I became a used car salesman.
 
2012-12-11 07:30:35 AM
Thanks subby, I might have never even known about this.
RIP nordic badass
 
2012-12-11 10:21:25 PM

sudo give me more cowbell: btw. Much better description of the mission here.
Balls. of. Steel.


Nice find. Enjoyed the read.

Reminds me... where are my glasses again?
 
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