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(The New York Times)   Norwegian who parachuted into Nazi occupied territory on skis to blow up Hitler's nuclear weapons program using a 30-second fuse has just died at age 101 wishing he had accomplished something with his life   (nytimes.com) divider line 116
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2012-12-10 12:43:14 AM  
My first thought was could make a good movie then I read...

He and other members of the mission at Norsk Hydro received medals from several Allied countries. In 1965, Hollywood produced "The Heroes of Telemark," a film starring Kirk Douglas and Richard Harris that included shootouts, dramatic chases through the snow and love scenes. The soldiers roundly panned the movie as unrealistic.

"He saw that," Mr. Stromsheim's son said. "He didn't like it. It was too glamorous."


Real soldiers are real.

Sounds like a good man. RIP.
 
2012-12-10 12:49:50 AM  
I've beaten that level before. Piece'O'cake.

/Job well done, Sir.
 
2012-12-10 01:01:45 AM  
Now I want to watch this movie again:

img.movieberry.com 

Oh dear lord, I just read the copy on that poster. Forgive me.
 
2012-12-10 01:14:28 AM  

fusillade762: Now I want to watch this movie again:

[img.movieberry.com image 500x755] 

Oh dear lord, I just read the copy on that poster. Forgive me.


I wanna see Barbara Bach blow more than a bridge.
 
2012-12-10 01:15:17 AM  
The Hero tag has never been more appropriate.

/Rest in peace, valiant warrior.
 
2012-12-10 02:25:04 AM  
^ What he said.
 
2012-12-10 04:32:34 AM  

Apos: The Hero tag has never been more appropriate.

/Rest in peace, valiant warrior.


This +1,000,000
 
2012-12-10 04:39:53 AM  
FTA: They lighted a 30-second fuse and ran.
....they lit a 30-second fuse?????
/grammar Nazi
 
2012-12-10 04:44:13 AM  
Is this the mostly nonexistent one that Heisenberg was in charge of.
 
2012-12-10 04:48:13 AM  
I always like to think of their reactions during the mission briefing.

"Alright guys, we got intel that the nazzies are building a NUCLEAR BOMB. You're gonna skii down a massive hill, infiltrate a fortified base and light a bomb with a -- get this -- 30-second fuse."

"Okay."
 
2012-12-10 04:48:41 AM  

fusillade762: Oh dear lord, I just read the copy on that poster. Forgive me.


Please tell me that is a 'shop.

Baumli: FTA: They lighted a 30-second fuse and ran.
....they lit a 30-second fuse?????
/grammar Nazi


This guy has earned the right to do whatever the hell he wants.
 
2012-12-10 05:03:51 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: I wanna see Barbara Bach blow more than a bridge.


You made me picture her blowing her husband, Ringo Starr.

/thanks
 
2012-12-10 05:07:39 AM  
To be sure, most movies about WWII made in the 60s were just to melodramatic and not even close to being truthful. Remember Battle of the Bulge with Henry Fonda? They used the US Patton tank, a Vietnam era tank, to represent the Nazi "super tank". Guns of Navaronne, while entertaining, was not very close to real. The Longest Day was pretty close to real, as was the 1970s, Battle Of Britain, The Man That Never Was and Sink The Bismarck. But most of the others had too much unnecessary love interest scenes and glommed multiple soldiers' war histories onto one or two characters.
 
2012-12-10 05:11:35 AM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
RIP
 
2012-12-10 05:15:39 AM  
my first reaction was:
"boy, with a bit of luck, he'll have a Hollywood movie made about it
- with americans in place of norvegians, of course!"

I looked up the wiki, and no, "The Heroes of Telemark" is not as shameless as "U-whatever"(about stealing the enigma from that U-Boot), Pearl-harbor and others of todays "historical" flicks.
From the Wiki:

"Other versions

Ray Mears made a documentary entitled The Real Heroes of Telemark. Despite mainly sticking to the factual evidence, some scenes in the documentary, like the film, were partly dramatised, focusing more on the survival skills involved in the operation.

The same story was also covered in the 1948 Franco-Norwegian film Kampen om tungtvannet (La bataille de l'eau lourde - "The battle for heavy water"). Quite faithful to the real events, it even had many of the original Norwegian commandos starring as themselves.
Cast"
 
2012-12-10 05:22:05 AM  

Baumli: FTA: They lighted a 30-second fuse and ran.
....they lit a 30-second fuse?????
/grammar Nazi


I will waddle into your room wearing clogs and spill diet coke into your keyboard.

/The new kind of heroism
 
2012-12-10 05:25:21 AM  
Rest well, you motherfarking badass.

/Job well done.
 
2012-12-10 05:26:02 AM  
Norwegians were simply awesome.

When they weren't suplying their hovercrafts with eels, they were planning to parachute into Nazi territory to blow up Hitler.

Plus, Thor is their god. Packing a hammer that shoots lightning, and smashes shiat up.

How awesome is that?
 
2012-12-10 05:29:04 AM  
"You had a tent?!"
i50.tinypic.com

// but seriously
// did he have a tent?
 
2012-12-10 05:29:18 AM  
Good night, sir.

May as well figure out how to get Hollywood to do a remake.
 
2012-12-10 05:40:43 AM  
Was it confirmed that it was a heavy water plant? I mean the info did come from British intelligence...

/trolling

/Love stories like this.
 
2012-12-10 05:41:14 AM  
Greatest Generation: Performed countless acts of humble greatness and self-sacrifice for the greater good.

Your Generation: Can't wait to post their outrage when the fast food drive-thru is too slow

Thank you for your service, Mr. 200-mile skiing, Nazi-heavy-water-facility-exploding Guy.
 
2012-12-10 05:41:41 AM  
I'm a bit impressed at the first group who escaped, lived off rock food and deer meat, and McGyvered a radio until the 2nd group met up with them..then went and completed the mission.
 
2012-12-10 05:50:15 AM  
What a badass.
 
2012-12-10 06:01:26 AM  
oldies.s3.amazonaws.com

You can order the movie online from Walmart for $9.50 with free shipping to the store. (click graphic) (new window)
 
2012-12-10 06:06:37 AM  

Devolving_Spud: Greatest Generation: Performed countless acts of humble greatness and self-sacrifice for the greater good.-and to provide the next generation with a world free from tyranny.

Your Generation: Can't wait to post their outrage when the fast food drive-thru is too slow
Inherits an awesome world, and farks up the planet for all future generations through greed and laziness because it doesn't wanna give up its hummers.


Seriously. Thinking about the shiat that my grandparents did to give me an awesome life, and thinking about how little anyone my age gives a shiat about the world they're leaving for future generations gives me a sad.
 
2012-12-10 06:14:24 AM  
cdn5.triplepundit.com

So what? I waited in line for a new iPhone for 4 hours, and it was chilly THE WHOLE TIME!

/modern humans are lame
//not all of 'em though
///but most of 'em
 
2012-12-10 06:19:53 AM  

Devolving_Spud: Greatest Generation: Performed countless acts of humble greatness and self-sacrifice for the greater good.


Misty-eyed romantic crap. Of course there was that. But there was also monumental farktardery.
There are heroes and bums in every age.

There are Germans with the same ideas about their Greatest Generation too..but I'm glad those old bastards have been replaced by modern Deutsche Pussies.
 
2012-12-10 06:23:53 AM  
I visited the heavy water plant in Rjukan and my Norwegian host had tears running
down her face while she gave me a tour. Very moving experience.
 
2012-12-10 06:33:19 AM  

0Icky0: Misty-eyed romantic crap. Of course there was that. But there was also monumental farktardery.
There are heroes and bums in every age.


Nah dude. There is monumentally more farktardery in our generation.
I mean, yeah, obviously there were the grandparents of ours that started that war. But just from the North-American perspective, there's no comparison.
I get it, it sucks to have to face up to the fact that our generation has failed in the basic moral test of "not completely screwing up the planet", but it's the reality; there's just no way in hell our grandkids are going to be calling us "the greatest generation".
 
2012-12-10 06:45:44 AM  
I invented the turducken, but you don't see me tooting my horn about it all over the place. Heroes don't do that. We just go straight up hero.
 
2012-12-10 06:49:21 AM  
How big of a parachute do you to safely land 500 lb balls?
 
2012-12-10 06:55:04 AM  

sudo give me more cowbell: there's just no way in hell our grandkids are going to be calling us "the greatest generation".


There is no way that "The Greatest Generation's" parents called them that either. Because they were looking back to a more "noble" age themselves. Their "Greatest Generation" was the one that fought the Civil War. Even the Southern traitors saw their fathers that way.
 
2012-12-10 06:55:11 AM  

monty666: I invented the turducken, but you don't see me tooting my horn about it all over the place.


If I invented a food with "turd" in the name, I'd hide away in shame, as well...
 
2012-12-10 06:58:41 AM  

RobSeace: monty666: I invented the turducken, but you don't see me tooting my horn about it all over the place.

If I invented a food with "turd" in the name, I'd hide away in shame, as well...


If I boned your mom and she squirted you out, I'd hide in shame too.
 
2012-12-10 07:10:50 AM  

0Icky0: Devolving_Spud: Greatest Generation: Performed countless acts of humble greatness and self-sacrifice for the greater good.

Misty-eyed romantic crap. Of course there was that. But there was also monumental farktardery.
There are heroes and bums in every age.

There are Germans with the same ideas about their Greatest Generation too..but I'm glad those old bastards have been replaced by modern Deutsche Pussies.


I had a minor car accident with an old guy.
It was actualy more his fault, but I was driving kinda to fast, and he was driving some blind guy around and was very nice, and did'n start by insulting me like german cagers normaly do... so I agreed to pai for the small damage to his car (old east-germans are poor).
We met at his flat, where he told me proudly he was in the U-Boots during the War. And there was no way he could'nt have noticed I was french and realy not nazi.
I was so shocked I didn't answer anything. But dude...
 
2012-12-10 07:29:10 AM  

sudo give me more cowbell: Devolving_Spud: Greatest Generation: Performed countless acts of humble greatness and self-sacrifice for the greater good.-and to provide the next generation with a world free from tyranny.

Your Generation: Can't wait to post their outrage when the fast food drive-thru is too slow
Inherits an awesome world, and farks up the planet for all future generations through greed and laziness because it doesn't wanna give up its hummers.


Seriously. Thinking about the shiat that my grandparents did to give me an awesome life, and thinking about how little anyone my age gives a shiat about the world they're leaving for future generations gives me a sad.


I agree with you, but I have read that there is a movement led by a flow farmer to have a 15 yr old Hallmark card removed from circulation because it may harm 13 yr old girls feelings. He/She appears to feel strongly about it so we have that going for us which is nice as always.

/RIP awesome soldier and thanks for all you did.
 
2012-12-10 07:30:54 AM  

On-Off: We met at his flat, where he told me proudly he was in the U-Boots during the War. And there was no way he could'nt have noticed I was french and realy not nazi.
I was so shocked I didn't answer anything. But dude...


I've got a German friend in Thailand who's grandfathers were both high-ranking SS officers. (One of them blew his brains out on VE day). He's got that guy's Iron Cross hanging in his office. He's hugely proud of his German Greatest Generation.
But still...he has no problem mixing his Aryan seed with Thai women. So he's got that going for him.
 
2012-12-10 07:36:36 AM  
The New York Times is reporting this a month late. Ah well, it took the two years to find out that there was a war going on, so I suppose things are getting a little better.
 
2012-12-10 07:37:49 AM  

On-Off: We met at his flat, where he told me proudly he was in the U-Boots during the War. And there was no way he could'nt have noticed I was french and realy not nazi.
I was so shocked I didn't answer anything. But dude...


ERIC: "Look, Dad, I need my car. Don't you remember when you were in high school? I bet you had some good times driving around senior year with your friends."

RED: "My senior year I was driving a gunboat around Okinawa. And if you count the Japanese snipers as my friends...then, yes, I had some good times."

KITTY: "You have to understand, Eric. It's not that you're father's trying to be a bad guy. It's just that he's been irreparably damaged by war."
 
2012-12-10 07:40:56 AM  
Oh holy hell I spit coffee on my phone and it deserves it. That flow farmer is really a farker. Looking at Robin Meade while trying to type.
 
2012-12-10 07:44:52 AM  

dericwater: To be sure, most movies about WWII made in the 60s were just to melodramatic and not even close to being truthful. Remember Battle of the Bulge with Henry Fonda? They used the US Patton tank, a Vietnam era tank, to represent the Nazi "super tank". Guns of Navaronne, while entertaining, was not very close to real. The Longest Day was pretty close to real, as was the 1970s, Battle Of Britain, The Man That Never Was and Sink The Bismarck. But most of the others had too much unnecessary love interest scenes and glommed multiple soldiers' war histories onto one or two characters.


The ones I love are the war time propaganda movies. Hero's like Ronald Regan shoot their way through dozens, if not hundreds of completely dehumanized enemy soldiers. While the depictions of the German soldiers are simplistic, the Japanese are depicted as subhuman monsters.
 
2012-12-10 07:46:09 AM  

0Icky0: sudo give me more cowbell: there's just no way in hell our grandkids are going to be calling us "the greatest generation".

There is no way that "The Greatest Generation's" parents called them that either. Because they were looking back to a more "noble" age themselves. Their "Greatest Generation" was the one that fought the Civil War. Even the Southern traitors saw their fathers that way.


No, but regardless of what their parents might have thought, a better measure of each generation's contribution is to be evaluated in retrospect. The question is about how each generation will be remembered.
I'm just saying, right now we can look at what our grandparents did and think "yeah, they saved our asses." but in 60 years, our grandkids are gonna be looking at what we did and thinking "yeah, they could have very easily made our lives easier, but instead they farked us over because it was 0.1% cheaper to drill more oil than to build a few solar panels."
 
2012-12-10 07:47:07 AM  

dericwater: To be sure, most movies about WWII made in the 60s were just to melodramatic and not even close to being truthful. Remember Battle of the Bulge with Henry Fonda? They used the US Patton tank, a Vietnam era tank, to represent the Nazi "super tank". Guns of Navaronne, while entertaining, was not very close to real. The Longest Day was pretty close to real, as was the 1970s, Battle Of Britain, The Man That Never Was and Sink The Bismarck. But most of the others had too much unnecessary love interest scenes and glommed multiple soldiers' war histories onto one or two characters.


"Battle of the Bulge" can be forgiven for using US equipment for tanks that were for the most part unavailable at the time of filming. It's similar to how film-makers of "Tora Tora Tora" had to use what was available to represent Japanese aircraft.

Which brings up a great point, that "Tora Tora Tora" is perhaps the best of the WWII films, telling history like it pretty much was with almost zero distortions. It even beats out "Das Boot", which is perhaps the best submarine film, but it has some serious flaws, a major one being that in late 1941, the U-boats were at the height of their power, or nearly so, and moral in the U-bootwaffe was at it's peak. The film should have been set in mid-to-late 1943, which is when the Battle of the Atlantic had actually noticeably turned against the Nazis.

Another interesting contrast is between "Tora Tora Tora" and "Battle of Midway": Both tackled real historical events, but while TTT stuck to history and is a gripping film, BOM falls victim to the malady you describe, injecting an unnecessary love story (between a pilot and a Japanese-American girl, no less!). That, and the over-use of stock footage really brought down the potential for a good film. The events surrounding the battle of Midway *SHOULD* be made into a good film, but probably never will be.
 
2012-12-10 07:54:48 AM  

BigBooper: The ones I love are the war time propaganda movies. Hero's like Ronald Regan shoot their way through dozens, if not hundreds of completely dehumanized enemy soldiers. While the depictions of the German soldiers are simplistic, the Japanese are depicted as subhuman monsters.


Contrast that with the original "Red Dawn", where the 'bad guys' are shown to be human, and the 'good guys' are asshole bullies (Jed Eckert), psychopathic killers (Robert Morris), psychologically damaged rape victims (Toni and Erica Mason), turncoats (Daryl Bates), or cynical (Colonel Tanner).
 
2012-12-10 07:58:00 AM  

RobSeace: monty666: I invented the turducken, but you don't see me tooting my horn about it all over the place.

If I invented a food with "turd" in the name, I'd hide away in shame, as well...


If I could toot my own horn, I wouldn't waste my time posting on Fark.
 
2012-12-10 07:58:53 AM  
I hate the way the term "hero" is thrown around, but this guy was the real deal.

RIP
 
2012-12-10 08:13:07 AM  

dittybopper: dericwater: To be sure, most movies about WWII made in the 60s were just to melodramatic and not even close to being truthful. Remember Battle of the Bulge with Henry Fonda? They used the US Patton tank, a Vietnam era tank, to represent the Nazi "super tank". Guns of Navaronne, while entertaining, was not very close to real. The Longest Day was pretty close to real, as was the 1970s, Battle Of Britain, The Man That Never Was and Sink The Bismarck. But most of the others had too much unnecessary love interest scenes and glommed multiple soldiers' war histories onto one or two characters.

"Battle of the Bulge" can be forgiven for using US equipment for tanks that were for the most part unavailable at the time of filming. It's similar to how film-makers of "Tora Tora Tora" had to use what was available to represent Japanese aircraft.

Which brings up a great point, that "Tora Tora Tora" is perhaps the best of the WWII films, telling history like it pretty much was with almost zero distortions. It even beats out "Das Boot", which is perhaps the best submarine film, but it has some serious flaws, a major one being that in late 1941, the U-boats were at the height of their power, or nearly so, and moral in the U-bootwaffe was at it's peak. The film should have been set in mid-to-late 1943, which is when the Battle of the Atlantic had actually noticeably turned against the Nazis.

Another interesting contrast is between "Tora Tora Tora" and "Battle of Midway": Both tackled real historical events, but while TTT stuck to history and is a gripping film, BOM falls victim to the malady you describe, injecting an unnecessary love story (between a pilot and a Japanese-American girl, no less!). That, and the over-use of stock footage really brought down the potential for a good film. The events surrounding the battle of Midway *SHOULD* be made into a good film, but probably never will be.


BOM was screwed up by putting in Charlton Heston in it. That guy is such a terrible actor, even in Ben-Hur.
 
2012-12-10 08:16:28 AM  

dericwater: BOM was screwed up by putting in Charlton Heston in it. That guy is such a terrible actor, even in Ben-Hur.


Even with a different actor, it still would have been a mess. I blame the writer, director, and producer.
 
2012-12-10 08:19:22 AM  
I read Thor Hyerdahl's biography a few decades back. He was one of these guys who were dropped there for these missions. The whole Kon Tiki thing would have to wait a decade.
 
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