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2012-12-10 10:02:07 AM

balthan: texdent: Reed Richards Is Useless

Comic book super geniuses are dicks considering how little they do to help the rest of humanity.


Is Peter Parker a super Genius or just a Regular Genius? I actually would like to know cause I heard that he is as smart as Reed Richards and even impressed Prym with his tracking devices when he was a kid.
 
2012-12-10 10:19:32 AM
yes! 3-D! I want to see the 2-D format disappear entirely. I want to see everyone forced to watch everything in 3-D even in their own homes.

/More 3-D!
//More 3-D!
 
2012-12-10 10:26:57 AM

Wolf892: Do you know who'd make a good Johnny Flame? Heath Ledger, he'd make a great Human Tourch...


I know you're trolling when you don't know it'sJohnny Storm.
 
2012-12-10 10:39:37 AM
Bad things need to happen to subby.

VERY. BAD. THINGS.
 
2012-12-10 11:03:29 AM

Brakefornobody: If it is a reboot, I hope they don't make the mistake of mixing the FF's origin with Doctor Doom's. At best, show the pre-scarred Doom as Reed's dick classmate from college, and then introduce him properly in the sequel.

One of the best lessons to learn from Nolan is that you don't introduce the hero's main villain in the first movie. Even if you do a good job, you've shot your wad in the beginning, and your next film is stuck trying to hype the B- and C-listers.

The Amazing Spider-Man

seemed to have learned this lesson, using B-Lister The Lizard and only making oblique mention of Norman Osborn/The Green Goblin. Of course, the sequel features another B-Lister, Electro, so they might be in it for the long haul, setting up Goblin as the villain for #3 or #4.
 
2012-12-10 11:07:32 AM

skepticultist: Brakefornobody: If it is a reboot, I hope they don't make the mistake of mixing the FF's origin with Doctor Doom's. At best, show the pre-scarred Doom as Reed's dick classmate from college, and then introduce him properly in the sequel.

One of the best lessons to learn from Nolan is that you don't introduce the hero's main villain in the first movie. Even if you do a good job, you've shot your wad in the beginning, and your next film is stuck trying to hype the B- and C-listers.

The Amazing Spider-Man seemed to have learned this lesson, using B-Lister The Lizard and only making oblique mention of Norman Osborn/The Green Goblin. Of course, the sequel features another B-Lister, Electro, so they might be in it for the long haul, setting up Goblin as the villain for #3 or #4.


Most likely #3 and it will bring the death of Gwen Stacy along with it.
 
2012-12-10 11:11:57 AM

yves0010: balthan: texdent: Reed Richards Is Useless

Comic book super geniuses are dicks considering how little they do to help the rest of humanity.

Is Peter Parker a super Genius or just a Regular Genius? I actually would like to know cause I heard that he is as smart as Reed Richards and even impressed Prym with his tracking devices when he was a kid.


Peter Parker is a Super Genius who failed to apply himself until late in life, as his academic studies were disrupted by his career as Spider-Man. In the main Marvelverse he currently works for a R&D lab that develops pioneering technologies. It's long been acknowledged in the comics that he has the potential to be a Reed Richards/Hank Pym/Tony Stark, but has consistently failed to live up to that potential. Web-swinging heroics are addictive apparently.
 
2012-12-10 11:17:19 AM

Scorpinock: Get James Gandolfini to play the non rocky Ben Grimm, then stay for his voice and do the Thing in full CG. Anything like that circus peanut costume Chicklas had to wear and this is a no go.


THIS is a good idea. A CGI Thing is the only way to go, and I can totally see Gandolfini in the role - if they go with an older FF. Which would be fine with me. In that case, they should cast Naomi Watts as The Invisible Woman. Someone suggested Colbert for Reed, which is hilariously spot-on if you want to go really camp, but isn't a realistic option. I can't think of anyone suitable for the role though.

I just realized that Reed Richards powers + 3D is going to be pretty zany. Arms stretching straight out into the audience.
 
2012-12-10 11:27:45 AM
I enjoyed Captain America and The Avengers much more than any of the FF movies, but Chris Evans made a much better Johnny Storm than Steve Rogers.
 
2012-12-10 11:44:12 AM

skepticultist: yves0010: balthan: texdent: Reed Richards Is Useless

Comic book super geniuses are dicks considering how little they do to help the rest of humanity.

Is Peter Parker a super Genius or just a Regular Genius? I actually would like to know cause I heard that he is as smart as Reed Richards and even impressed Prym with his tracking devices when he was a kid.

Peter Parker is a Super Genius who failed to apply himself until late in life, as his academic studies were disrupted by his career as Spider-Man. In the main Marvelverse he currently works for a R&D lab that develops pioneering technologies. It's long been acknowledged in the comics that he has the potential to be a Reed Richards/Hank Pym/Tony Stark, but has consistently failed to live up to that potential. Web-swinging heroics are addictive apparently.


So he is up there in smarts to the likes of the Marvel smarties. I knew he was smart but not at what level within the Marvel universe. Plus, come on, he was dating two hot women as well. Both Gwen and MJ had to be distracting at some point.
 
2012-12-10 01:06:19 PM

texdent: Reed Richards Is Useless


There's a pretty awesome comic where Reed Richardseseses from across the multi-verse team up to solve the major problems in existence.

It kind of illustrates why maybe it's not such a bad thing for Reed to be kind of "useless", as you put it.
 
2012-12-10 02:59:42 PM

yves0010: skepticultist: yves0010: balthan: texdent: Reed Richards Is Useless

Comic book super geniuses are dicks considering how little they do to help the rest of humanity.

Is Peter Parker a super Genius or just a Regular Genius? I actually would like to know cause I heard that he is as smart as Reed Richards and even impressed Prym with his tracking devices when he was a kid.

Peter Parker is a Super Genius who failed to apply himself until late in life, as his academic studies were disrupted by his career as Spider-Man. In the main Marvelverse he currently works for a R&D lab that develops pioneering technologies. It's long been acknowledged in the comics that he has the potential to be a Reed Richards/Hank Pym/Tony Stark, but has consistently failed to live up to that potential. Web-swinging heroics are addictive apparently.

So he is up there in smarts to the likes of the Marvel smarties. I knew he was smart but not at what level within the Marvel universe. Plus, come on, he was dating two hot women as well. Both Gwen and MJ had to be distracting at some point.


This is why I was glad they killed his marriage to MJ. He spent more time protecting her from villains who figured out what she meant to him, and less time inventing things.

He recently saved the world from Doc Ock using his genius. In turn, Doc Ock-- very close to death, now-- swapped bodies and shares memories with Peter. Now Otto's running around as Spider-Man, living Pete's life, and Pete's stuck in Otto's dying body, giving orders to a last-ditch group of supervillains in an effort to get his body back. And there's one issue left of Amazing Spider-Man before it's canceled in favor of a new series, so I'm not feeling very confident about the end of this story.

They'd better not pull a Miles Morales, here. They'd better not even pull a Ben Reilly.
 
2012-12-10 03:04:56 PM
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2012-12-10 03:05:10 PM

GhostFish: texdent: Reed Richards Is Useless

There's a pretty awesome comic where Reed Richardseseses from across the multi-verse team up to solve the major problems in existence.

It kind of illustrates why maybe it's not such a bad thing for Reed to be kind of "useless", as you put it.


This is a running thing in FF comics. Reed is an arrogant snot, and he hangs out with other Reeds from other dimensions who all essentially pat each other on the back and work to save the multiverse. There have been times that Reed has spent so much time with his other selves that he hasn't had time to be with his wife and kids. Consequently, his super-genius daughter and infinitely powerful son have had to step up and do things to save the team when daddy was too busy impressing himself in another dimension.

Reed's such a dick. How do you make a superhero movie in which the main character is one of the biggest dicks in the world? Super-smart? Yes. But he's also a class-A jackass. Tony Stark's got nothing on Reed (and actually, since Tony rebooted his brain and doesn't even remember Civil War, he's back to being a cool guy).

Who would have thought, all these years later, that Hank Pym would be the most responsible, well-adjusted super-genius in the Marvel Universe?
 
2012-12-10 03:12:09 PM

ZeroCorpse:
Who would have thought, all these years later, that Hank Pym would be the most responsible, well-adjusted super-genius in the Marvel Universe?


To be fair, Banner really only screwed up that one time, and even then it was to save a kid. He's at the same level of intelligence, just that those pesky transformations/MPD/daddy issues/impedement-du-jour get in the way. Hard to get any real research done when you destroy your lab at least once a week and/or the army is hunting you.
 
2012-12-10 03:43:14 PM
Post-converted to 3D? I'll have the 2D, then.
 
2012-12-10 04:14:58 PM
Fantastic 4 have always been kinda lame, it should be possible to do a good movie of them, but im not expecting it to ever happen...

This on the other hand, odd as it is, im cautiously optimistic about.

www.geeksofdoom.com
 
2012-12-10 05:03:41 PM

Dr.Zom: In the comics, Marvel writers have managed to condense the FF origin story into two pages, oh, probably a hundred times.

You could tell the origin story before the opening credits were finished. Then get to the good stuff.


That's one of the things that I liked about the Ed Norton version of The Hulk. The "origin" happened in the first three minutes of film via flashback. I thought that it was brave of them to simply trust that the audience didn't need to be walked through all of that, yet again.
 
2012-12-10 05:42:34 PM

Robert1966: I enjoyed Captain America and The Avengers much more than any of the FF movies, but Chris Evans made a much better Johnny Storm than Steve Rogers.


Really? I think he's the definitive Steve Rogers. Granted, I'm not a lifelong comics fan or anything, but I thought he nailed the WWII-era tough guy.
 
2012-12-10 05:50:32 PM

Cyno01: Fantastic 4 have always been kinda lame, it should be possible to do a good movie of them, but im not expecting it to ever happen...

This on the other hand, odd as it is, im cautiously optimistic about.

[www.geeksofdoom.com image 533x243]


If there was ever a Marvel project tailor-made for Guilermo del Toro, it's this one IMO.
 
2012-12-10 08:37:02 PM

ZeroCorpse: He recently saved the world from Doc Ock using his genius. In turn, Doc Ock-- very close to death, now-- swapped bodies and shares memories with Peter. Now Otto's running around as Spider-Man, living Pete's life, and Pete's stuck in Otto's dying body, giving orders to a last-ditch group of supervillains in an effort to get his body back. And there's one issue left of Amazing Spider-Man before it's canceled in favor of a new series, so I'm not feeling very confident about the end of this story.

They'd better not pull a Miles Morales, here. They'd better not even pull a Ben Reilly.


They're promising the death of Peter Parker, but if this all ends with him "dying" in Doc Ock's body and Doc Ock running around in a Peter suit, then I'm calling shenanigans.

I'm pretty okay with the Miles Morales thing. But I'm pretty sick of Marvel "changing Spider-Man forever" and then reversing course a few months later -- Giving up his secret identity in Civil War and the magic eraser that was One More Day. Ugh. They've learned nothing from the whole Clone War debacle.
 
2012-12-10 08:44:02 PM

ZeroCorpse: yves0010: skepticultist: yves0010: balthan: texdent: Reed Richards Is Useless

Comic book super geniuses are dicks considering how little they do to help the rest of humanity.

Is Peter Parker a super Genius or just a Regular Genius? I actually would like to know cause I heard that he is as smart as Reed Richards and even impressed Prym with his tracking devices when he was a kid.

Peter Parker is a Super Genius who failed to apply himself until late in life, as his academic studies were disrupted by his career as Spider-Man. In the main Marvelverse he currently works for a R&D lab that develops pioneering technologies. It's long been acknowledged in the comics that he has the potential to be a Reed Richards/Hank Pym/Tony Stark, but has consistently failed to live up to that potential. Web-swinging heroics are addictive apparently.

So he is up there in smarts to the likes of the Marvel smarties. I knew he was smart but not at what level within the Marvel universe. Plus, come on, he was dating two hot women as well. Both Gwen and MJ had to be distracting at some point.

This is why I was glad they killed his marriage to MJ. He spent more time protecting her from villains who figured out what she meant to him, and less time inventing things.

He recently saved the world from Doc Ock using his genius. In turn, Doc Ock-- very close to death, now-- swapped bodies and shares memories with Peter. Now Otto's running around as Spider-Man, living Pete's life, and Pete's stuck in Otto's dying body, giving orders to a last-ditch group of supervillains in an effort to get his body back. And there's one issue left of Amazing Spider-Man before it's canceled in favor of a new series Before it;s renamed and renumbered for a year or two., so I'm not feeling very confident about the end of this story.

They'd better not pull a Miles Morales, here. They'd better not even pull a Ben Reilly.



Here you go
 
2012-12-10 08:47:19 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Dr.Zom: In the comics, Marvel writers have managed to condense the FF origin story into two pages, oh, probably a hundred times.

You could tell the origin story before the opening credits were finished. Then get to the good stuff.

That's one of the things that I liked about the Ed Norton version of The Hulk. The "origin" happened in the first three minutes of film via flashback. I thought that it was brave of them to simply trust that the audience didn't need to be walked through all of that, yet again.

The Incredible Hulk

was written in such a way that you can entirely ignore the first movie (and substitute the TV series origin) OR you can ignore the opening credit sequence and it works as a sequel (which ended with Bana/Banner hiding out in Brazil, which is where we find Norton/Banner). It was less of a reboot than a retool.
 
2012-12-12 04:36:50 AM

skepticultist: Some 'Splainin' To Do: Dr.Zom: In the comics, Marvel writers have managed to condense the FF origin story into two pages, oh, probably a hundred times.

You could tell the origin story before the opening credits were finished. Then get to the good stuff.

That's one of the things that I liked about the Ed Norton version of The Hulk. The "origin" happened in the first three minutes of film via flashback. I thought that it was brave of them to simply trust that the audience didn't need to be walked through all of that, yet again.

The Incredible Hulk was written in such a way that you can entirely ignore the first movie (and substitute the TV series origin) OR you can ignore the opening credit sequence and it works as a sequel (which ended with Bana/Banner hiding out in Brazil, which is where we find Norton/Banner). It was less of a reboot than a retool.


And it was a genius maneuver.
 
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