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2012-12-09 09:45:17 PM

Happy Hours: Smackledorfer: Are there any other crimes at all in which the penalty for an action is based on the worst possible outcome and ignores intent? I can't think of any.

Well, I was going to say shoplifting a candy bar, but then you put all these conditions on it like ignoring intent. I'm pretty sure the intent of a shoplifter includes depriving the store of their property and a legitimate sale. And there's also that the store is the victim. Smoking pot victimizes nobody but the toker.

But what the hell do I know - I'm victimizing myself with beer right now.


If someone doses you with psychoactive chemicals without your consent or knowledge, it isn't a "victimless crime."
 
2012-12-09 09:46:50 PM

Amos Quito: sycraft: I can see people being really worried and scared. After all, think about how you feel when you are pretty stoned or drunk. Think about some of the symptoms, like dizziness, lack of coordination, trouble concentrating, changes in temperature perception and so on. Everything is, well, different. Now when you get high/drunk you know what you are doing and why it happens so no big deal. But if that started happening to you all of a sudden, for no apparent reason? You might well freak out because you have no idea what is going wrong and there are some serious medical problems that can present similar symptoms.


Yeah, as an example of how bad things can go, the CIA played a little game called "Spike the Local Bread with LSD" on a small town in France back in 1951.

" In 1951, a quiet, picturesque village in southern France was suddenly and mysteriously struck down with mass insanity and hallucinations. At least five people died, dozens were interned in asylums and hundreds afflicted.

For decades it was assumed that the local bread had been unwittingly poisoned with a psychedelic mould. Now, however, an American investigative journalist has uncovered evidence suggesting the CIA peppered local food with the hallucinogenic drug LSD as part of a mind control experiment at the height of the Cold War. "

Took 60 years to get to the bottom of the "mystery".

BAD CIA! BAD!


Vault 106, right?
 
2012-12-09 09:47:54 PM
robertdavidsullivan.typepad.com

Knows all about it.

/link not as hot as Marilu Henner back in that day.
 
2012-12-09 09:48:22 PM
Too much, guys, too much. Should have just gone with the half eighth for that batch of brownies.
 
2012-12-09 09:50:20 PM

queen biatch of the universe: Bathia_Mapes:


Hmmm...maybe that would explain why I've gotten a migraine everytime I've smoked pot in the past.  Don't smoke it anymore because migraines suck, no matter the cause.

The first time I tried pot I had the same reaction. Many some farker can help a sister out here on this question. I smoke pot the first time with my sister who got it from a friend that grew it himself. Thought it would help my depression but it just gave me the migraine from hell, didn't touch it again until last year. Last year I was allowed to legally use medical marijuana to help with my side-effects from chemo. Never had a headache - was it just a different variety? Don't know much about the stuff outside of the fact it works like a charm for stopping nausea.



That's a good question.  On those rare past occasions when I smoked pot it was my sister's homegrown.  Never tried any other variety/variation. 
 
2012-12-09 09:53:47 PM
About 10 years ago,my roommate at the time baked some chocolate chip cookies.He was going to Vegas that morning.I was going to work.I don't normally eat sweets,but I was hungry.I ate two cookies.Started driving to work and then it creeped on me.I called my boss and told him what was going on and he told me to take the day off.I called my roommate and told him I ate 2 cookies,he laughed and said you only need one.
 
2012-12-09 09:55:33 PM

Bathia_Mapes: That's a good question.  On those rare past occasions when I smoked pot it was my sister's homegrown.  Never tried any other variety/variation.


We should talk.
 
2012-12-09 09:55:46 PM
They should be expelled, immediately. Regardless of whether they actually spend any time in jail, they should be required to put the following on every resume or application they submit for anything:

"I am such a stupid, arrogant piece of shiat that I think my sense of humor is more important than the health, safety, or education of anyone around me. If you hire me, be aware that I am such a selfish asshole that I enjoy damaging other people for laughs."
 
2012-12-09 09:56:13 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Amos Quito: Then again, it is NEVER cool to offer any intoxicant to unwitting / unwilling participants.

Except for your cat.


Cats tripping on Melatonin is even funnier.
 
2012-12-09 09:57:16 PM
My cleaning crew ate one of my brownies last week. I got an email asking for my private email (I usually use my work one) as they had a pressing personal matter to ask about". I called, and the husband answered, and said he was totally embarrassed (at this point I'm wondering if they found my meth lab or sex slave dungeon) but he asked if there was anything special in them, because there better be or something is wrong. I told him there was, he apologized for eating my food. He said his wife was passed out, and he quit smoking 20 years ago, but "I guess I'll enjoy this while I can"

/csb
 
2012-12-09 09:57:22 PM

gonegirl: They should be expelled, immediately. Regardless of whether they actually spend any time in jail, they should be required to put the following on every resume or application they submit for anything:

"I am such a stupid, arrogant piece of shiat that I think my sense of humor is more important than the health, safety, or education of anyone around me. If you hire me, be aware that I am such a selfish asshole that I enjoy damaging other people for laughs."


We don't know that they did it "for laughs." It's possible they thought this would be welcomed, or that other kids wouldn't mind getting high without their consent.

They're idiots, and should suffer serious legal consequences, but their thought process might not have been "haha other kids will get high and won't realize it and that's funny."
 
2012-12-09 09:58:33 PM

Smackledorfer: Are there any other crimes at all in which the penalty for an action is based on the worst possible outcome and ignores intent? I can't think of any.


If you're pirating software/music/movies for personal use you can be punished as though you intended to profit off of it (selling the things you acquired). Does that count?

Or in the same vein, if you're busted with your drug of choice in a quantity beyond a certain threshold, you can be charged with intent to sell even if it's for personal use.
 
2012-12-09 09:59:41 PM

topcon: To make matters worse, eating pot will make you freak out way worse than smoking it.


Yeah, this too. Even when intentionally smoking it, the effect kicks in pretty fast, so you can stop smoking once you've had enough. But when you eat it, if you don't know the dose, by the time it kicks in, it's too late and you could be really messed up for hours. And that's even if you eat too much and know why you're feeling so strange.

Sure, some will argue that THC is basically non-toxic and I'm sure everybody is now medically fine, but I'm sure some of those people felt terribly ill and extremely paranoid for hours--not knowing what the fark happened to them. So just because nobody got permanently hurt doesn't make it any better.
 
2012-12-09 10:00:24 PM
The brownies were brought as part of a "bring food to class" day. Police said the brownies and orange juice were the only items brought to class.


So nobody else even brought the Doritos? Lazy bastards.
 
2012-12-09 10:01:14 PM

eraser8: vice_magnet: WTF are they doing holding a class for 12 pupils? No wonder higher Ed is so farked up.

I must be missing something...why is a class for 12 students bad?


Hope he doesn't find out that lots of graduate-school seminars often have six or fewer.
 
2012-12-09 10:01:20 PM

gonegirl: "I am such a stupid, arrogant piece of shiat that I think my sense of humor is more important than the health, safety, or education of anyone around me. If you hire me, be aware that I am such a selfish asshole that I enjoy damaging other people for laughs."


This is basically my personal ethics code and even I wouldn't do something like what these assclowns did.
 
2012-12-09 10:01:25 PM

Polyhazard: If someone doses you with psychoactive chemicals without your consent or knowledge, it isn't a "victimless crime."


I agree with that.

I think the person I replied to was talking about people taking drugs of their own free will.

CSB time - my grandfather (who was not a drinker) when he was young was at a party one time on a hot summer day. He asked for a glass of water which at the time when people still wore onions on their belts was apparently slang for vodka. So they poured him a glass of vodka - how he didn't notice that they poured him a vodka and not water is something I didn't think to ask when I heard this story.

He eagerly gulped the glass of "water" down and needless to say immediately realized it wasn't water.
 
2012-12-09 10:03:44 PM

St_Francis_P: The "awesome prank" is pretty stupid, then and now.


Especially since cooking thc gives it effects close to LSD and some people will suffer hallucinations after ingestion.
 
2012-12-09 10:06:41 PM
Either that was toxic pot, those 2 are awful cooks, are college students are pot pussies these days. Probably NOT the latter.
 
2012-12-09 10:08:42 PM

Polyhazard: Amos Quito: sycraft: I can see people being really worried and scared. After all, think about how you feel when you are pretty stoned or drunk. Think about some of the symptoms, like dizziness, lack of coordination, trouble concentrating, changes in temperature perception and so on. Everything is, well, different. Now when you get high/drunk you know what you are doing and why it happens so no big deal. But if that started happening to you all of a sudden, for no apparent reason? You might well freak out because you have no idea what is going wrong and there are some serious medical problems that can present similar symptoms.


Yeah, as an example of how bad things can go, the CIA played a little game called "Spike the Local Bread with LSD" on a small town in France back in 1951.

" In 1951, a quiet, picturesque village in southern France was suddenly and mysteriously struck down with mass insanity and hallucinations. At least five people died, dozens were interned in asylums and hundreds afflicted.

For decades it was assumed that the local bread had been unwittingly poisoned with a psychedelic mould. Now, however, an American investigative journalist has uncovered evidence suggesting the CIA peppered local food with the hallucinogenic drug LSD as part of a mind control experiment at the height of the Cold War. "

Took 60 years to get to the bottom of the "mystery".

BAD CIA! BAD!

Holy shiat! Thanks for posting that link. I knew about the "tainted" bread, but not this story.

When I learned about Frank Olsen I found myself becoming increasingly uneasy about what our modern-day spooks must be up to. This story reminds me just how far it went at the time.

What the hell must be going on our there today?



Heh.

I think it's safe to assume that work has "progressed", and that they are getting better at achieving the desired results.

A complacent, cooperative and non-resistant populace is the dream of ANY government.

No?
 
2012-12-09 10:08:45 PM

puckrock2000: The brownies were brought as part of a "bring food to class" day. Police said the brownies and orange juice were the only items brought to class.


So nobody else even brought the Doritos? Lazy bastards.


//this

OK, yeah, but what's the alternative?

"Hi, everybody, I brought orange juice that I stole out of the co-op refrigerator and it only expired a few weeks ago."

"Hi, I brought hummus from my bio lab."

"Hi, I brought homemade cottage cheese with cultures from my roommate's vag."

"Hey, I brought BROWNIES!"

You... make... the call!!!
 
2012-12-09 10:11:14 PM

AcneVulgaris: Amos Quito: "The Boulder County district attorney will review the case, at which time Cunningham and Essa may each face more than 10 felonies, Huff said."


Seems a bit harsh.

Then again, it is NEVER cool to offer any intoxicant to unwitting / unwilling participants.


/Except Rohypnol, of course

I tried eating pot once. I ate a little, nothing happened, a little more, nothing. Screw it, I'll finish off this eighth. Nothing, for an hour or so, and then suddenly holy shiat. I staggered around for a bit, and passed out for 22 hours. When I came to my wife was trying to drag me into the car to go to the hospital.

Definately not a cool prank.


Oh yeah, never eat a lot, when I cooked it down to butter form I used half of what the recipe called for and its probably a good thing I did since that shiat had us farked up for hours. If I had used what the recipe suggested I am sure one of us would have wound up in jail/hospital/mental ward.
 
2012-12-09 10:14:11 PM

the ha ha guy: Some companies, government contractors in particular, will take hair samples for drug testing, which can retain THC for 8-10 years.


Yeah, I hadn't even thought of the drug testing angle. One of those students might be up for a job, or in ROTC, or on an athletic scholarship, or on probation, or trying to get a student teaching appointment. Any one of those might or will require you to hand over a piss sample, and if these asshats hadn't got caught... yikes.

Hell, someone might be screwed regardless. A lot of the people who test your piss aren't going to care how gold-plated your excuse is for testing positive.

Well, like I said, there are going to be a lot of bored drug-case prosecutors in Colorado anyway, so at least they won't slip through the cracks. Go get 'em, boys!
 
2012-12-09 10:16:09 PM
Dosing anyone, with anything at all without their knowledge is horrible practice. I'd freak the fark out just wondering what was happening to me....then become totally unglued because I was way too high.
 
2012-12-09 10:18:54 PM

queen biatch of the universe: Bathia_Mapes:


Hmmm...maybe that would explain why I've gotten a migraine everytime I've smoked pot in the past.  Don't smoke it anymore because migraines suck, no matter the cause.

The first time I tried pot I had the same reaction. Many some farker can help a sister out here on this question. I smoke pot the first time with my sister who got it from a friend that grew it himself. Thought it would help my depression but it just gave me the migraine from hell, didn't touch it again until last year. Last year I was allowed to legally use medical marijuana to help with my side-effects from chemo. Never had a headache - was it just a different variety? Don't know much about the stuff outside of the fact it works like a charm for stopping nausea.


You had dirt weed, basically from a weak ass strain of thc that barely gets anyone high, usually its cut with something else today as well so the other chemicals make it worse. When you have good weed the difference is like drinking 36 year old scotch compared to old grandad, sure both may get you drunk but one is also gonna make you violently sick.
 
2012-12-09 10:21:22 PM

gonegirl:
"I am such a stupid, arrogant piece of shiat that I think my sense of humor is more important than the health, safety, or education of anyone around me. If you hire me, be aware that I am such a selfish asshole that I enjoy damaging other people for laughs."


That coulda also encompass so many public officials and political leaders,
 
2012-12-09 10:22:24 PM
Rocky mountain High-larity, Colorado.

These two asshats deserve expulsion but no jail time for this admittedly "pants-on-head/WTF-were-you-thinking?' stunt.

Hash brownies or pot cookies prepared by someone who knows what they are doing are awesome.

Not so cerebral it's a nice trippy body high that generally brings on a case of munchies that puts regular pot smokin' munchies to shame when ingested by people who have figured out their tolerances for this kinda stuff previously.

Done wrong and ingested by people who aren't aware what's going on brings nothing but misery all around.
 
2012-12-09 10:26:18 PM
You DO NOT dose someone without their consent. I think that was one of Tim Leary's rules. Or something. Such as.
 
2012-12-09 10:28:26 PM
You've got to be kidding me.

I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.

It's just common sense.
 
2012-12-09 10:31:26 PM

Sticky Hands: I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.


Wut?
 
2012-12-09 10:32:41 PM

Robots are Strong: Smackledorfer: Are there any other crimes at all in which the penalty for an action is based on the worst possible outcome and ignores intent? I can't think of any.

If you're pirating software/music/movies for personal use you can be punished as though you intended to profit off of it (selling the things you acquired). Does that count?

Or in the same vein, if you're busted with your drug of choice in a quantity beyond a certain threshold, you can be charged with intent to sell even if it's for personal use.


Fair enough, but the latter is because having that much shows intent.

The former is a law I, and most folks here, disagree with copywrite laws for the precise reason that the penalty is so unrelated to the crime.

For that matter most disagree with the drug example too.

I am not defending slipping drugs to people. I just look at criminal laws and see getting years for it, when things resulting in more damage and done with malice don't rise as high on the penalty scale. So I think the calls for blood here are misguided.
 
2012-12-09 10:38:11 PM

Dafatone: gonegirl: They should be expelled, immediately. Regardless of whether they actually spend any time in jail, they should be required to put the following on every resume or application they submit for anything:

"I am such a stupid, arrogant piece of shiat that I think my sense of humor is more important than the health, safety, or education of anyone around me. If you hire me, be aware that I am such a selfish asshole that I enjoy damaging other people for laughs."

We don't know that they did it "for laughs." It's possible they thought this would be welcomed, or that other kids wouldn't mind getting high without their consent.


True. It's just as possible they did this with the intent to poison and harm their classmates.
 
2012-12-09 10:42:03 PM
If you slip pot to me without my knowledge, be prepared for me to kick your ass when it wears off. I will take it no differently than if you tried to poison me.

Actually, I wouldn't kick your ass, but I would press charges and sue you into oblivion. I'd let the cops and courts kick your ass for me.

It's about choice and taking away my free will. You might as well be raping someone if you drug them against their will or without their knowledge. You are violating their body and taking away their right to say "no."
 
2012-12-09 10:45:04 PM

Sticky Hands: I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.


So true my friend... so true.

/I'll have whatever what he's having
 
2012-12-09 10:46:50 PM

ZeroCorpse: You might as well be raping someone if you drug them against their will or without their knowledge. You are violating their body and taking away their right to say "no."


I don't know if it's exactly the same as rape-rape, but I generally agree with your statement.

/Also, God's Will.
 
2012-12-09 10:48:11 PM

LDM90: But I have been assured by Fark that pot is completely harmless and just legalize it already!


No you weren't. You were assured that jailing hundreds of thousands of non-violent drug offenders is stupid.

It is.
 
2012-12-09 10:50:46 PM

LGeezer: DO YOU THINK I'M CUTE DO YOU THINK I'M FUNNY?


Why, yes I do! And I just ate a jelly donut.

/No really, I was still chewing the last bite when I scrolled down to this pic. Weird coincidence.
 
2012-12-09 10:53:41 PM

Sticky Hands: You've got to be kidding me.

I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.

It's just common sense.


Stoner confusion trolling..Brilliant.

//too lazy to link the beer guys..
 
2012-12-09 10:54:29 PM

Kibbler: No you weren't. You were assured that jailing hundreds of thousands of non-violent drug offenders is stupid.

It is.


Yep. And that's not the issue.

The people who used the drugs aren't under arrest, nor should be. It's the people who drugged them without their consent that are in jail, as well they should be.

Smackledorfer: So your response to "intent and actual damage caused matters" is to present a hypothetical with terrible results that outweigh the intent? Odd.

Are there any other crimes at all in which the penalty for an action is based on the worst possible outcome and ignores intent? I can't think of any.

You say your argument is based on common sense, which is a meaningless statement, and you ignore the entirety of the rest of the criminal justice system in the process.


Yes, because that makes sense and how the law works. You can't allow people to drug others without their consent and just treat it like it was nothing.
 
2012-12-09 11:01:15 PM

Kibbler: LDM90: But I have been assured by Fark that pot is completely harmless and just legalize it already!

No you weren't. You were assured that jailing hundreds of thousands of non-violent drug offenders is stupid.

It is.


As far as what has been assured by Fark, spin the wheel and call out the first thing that comes to mind.
 
2012-12-09 11:03:18 PM
Where did I say anything about treating it like it was nothing?
 
2012-12-09 11:04:33 PM
Those students are awful human beings.

I was a chronic smoker from 1989-2007 (I'm old). Good stuff, ditch weed, whatever we could get. It was never scary, and I really loved it - I've never taken to alcohol, so it was my version of an after-work cocktail. I stopped when I married a teetotaler, which was fine by me. No withdrawals, just an occasional yearning.

A year ago, I went to a party and my friends wondered if I wanted the tiniest piece of a brownie I'd ever seen. They told me I should start with half. I laughed - I'm an old-school smoker with ears of experience under my belt, right? So I ate the whole thing. Thus began my first medical-grade adventure.

I was farked. So very, very farked. It took an hour to noticeably creep in. About 3 hours in, I (almost literally) crawled into their guest room, locked the door, and laid on the bed. Utterly immobilized. It took about 8 hours after eating the thing until I felt mostly normal. It was nothing like any pot experience I'd had, and my brain was on overdrive - more of an acid sensation than weed. Blech.

If my friends were dicks, and I if was naive and under the impression that it was a regular brownie (not recognizing the smell or whatever), I would have definitely gone to the ER. I would have been terrified. Luckily, I knew it would wear off eventually and I'd be OK. I kept having to remind myself of that, though, which was a bummer.

I still miss the fun weed, but I have no will to try the current stuff. That makes me sad.
 
2012-12-09 11:11:23 PM
This is why we can't have nice things. Put the blame in the proper place. It has very little to do with pot and a lot to do with human stupidity.
 
2012-12-09 11:11:41 PM
I worked for a Renaissance Faire and we (actors) were required to attend a cook-out one week, meet and greet event. We all thought it was hilarious that there were peaches served in brandy, and had several portions each. There was also a really nasty Greek dish filled with spinach that just looked off and very few people ate it.

Yeah, not all spinach. And a few actors began acting strangely, we didn't know what they had ingested, and the producers made the call to take them to the ER. Just pot, and our people were okay, but we were all pretty angry that some stranger had decided, oh, actors are all crazy people, they'll think this is awesome! NO.

Also at the party-- a nine-year-old child and a pregnant woman. The kid got dosed. Spent the night crying to his parents that he felt "weird". Not funny at all.

Want to get high? Great, good for you. Be my guest. But drugging people without their consent is a complete dick move.
 
2012-12-09 11:12:23 PM
Q&D
i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-09 11:14:00 PM

Smackledorfer: Where did I say anything about treating it like it was nothing?


Given the possible repercussions of their crime, simple expulsion and time served is nothing, especially compared to the punishment for spiking food or drink with any other drug.
 
2012-12-09 11:15:14 PM

Sticky Hands: You've got to be kidding me.

I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.

It's just common sense.


How is bbong smooked?
 
2012-12-09 11:15:47 PM
Side note and ITG:
For the last 12 years I've worked with explosives. I'm a mining engineer with multiple licenses and make a comfortable living. I'm also subject to random drug tests. Any drug use would directly affect my ability to earn a living.

If anyone ever did this to me, you BETTER hope they arrest you and keep you in jail. Because if I found you before the police did...
 
2012-12-09 11:16:28 PM
only 8 out of 12? at least we know who smokes.
 
2012-12-09 11:18:32 PM
i.ytimg.com
Typical reaction to being too high
 
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