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2012-12-09 09:00:42 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Smackledorfer: I think felony is pushing it here. People have done and will do worse things, with malice no less, and gotten much less time.

When being an idiot about drugs is multiple felonies than hopefully battery is life in prison.

Drugging someone without their consent could hurt them severely, both physically or legally. What if they tried to drive, not knowing this? Or if they never realized they had pot brownies and work in a place that they're subject to drug tests?

You want to fark up your own life, that's your own business. But if you want to end or ruin another person's life then you should do some serious time.


Intent matters, and actual damage caused matters.

In that regard the punishment should fit the crime, and years in pmita prison for being stupid with pot brownies doesn't strike me as serving justice.

Any time above expulsion and a few months jailtime will be unlikely to increase the preventative aspect of the punishment, on others or on these morons. Extra time isn't likely to help rehabilitate these idiots.

So what is the point? A revenge sentence that costs society extra money and gives it nothing in return? No thanks.
 
2012-12-09 09:00:49 PM  
Pot brownies existed long before Barney Miller aired. Hasn't anyone here ever heard of The Alice B. Toklas Cookbook.??
 
2012-12-09 09:01:09 PM  

Happy Hours: Oh, and the hash episode of Barney Miller aired in 1976. The '70s called. They asked that you stop confusing them with the '80s.


The source of the best Fish quote of all: "Why is it when I feel good, it has to be illegal?"
 
2012-12-09 09:01:46 PM  
cdn0.sbnation.com

DO YOU THINK I'M CUTE DO YOU THINK I'M FUNNY?
 
2012-12-09 09:02:12 PM  

fusillade762: Reminds me of the one (and only) episode of "ER" I ever watched (because it was directed by Quentin Tarantino). A bunch of kids end up in the ER after eating chocolates dosed with LSD. One of the nurses unwittingly eats one and wanders around all wide-eyed and pawing at the walls like a child. No. Just no. You'd think you were dying or had been poisoned.

Never watched that stupid show again.


you love George Clooney, we all know you love George Clooney, and a quick search on Amazon shows you have bought the ER Series box set three times, having worn them out from over-play, George Clooney lover.
 
2012-12-09 09:02:15 PM  
Double Secret Probation! Mister
 
2012-12-09 09:03:05 PM  

Bathia_Mapes:


Hmmm...maybe that would explain why I've gotten a migraine everytime I've smoked pot in the past.  Don't smoke it anymore because migraines suck, no matter the cause.


The first time I tried pot I had the same reaction. Many some farker can help a sister out here on this question. I smoke pot the first time with my sister who got it from a friend that grew it himself. Thought it would help my depression but it just gave me the migraine from hell, didn't touch it again until last year. Last year I was allowed to legally use medical marijuana to help with my side-effects from chemo. Never had a headache - was it just a different variety? Don't know much about the stuff outside of the fact it works like a charm for stopping nausea.
 
2012-12-09 09:05:52 PM  
This should have happened in Denver so we could make some Mile High City jokes...
 
2012-12-09 09:06:41 PM  
"Anybody who thinks this is cute, anybody who thinks this was funny, is going to face pretty serious sanctions, both criminally and potentially within the student conduct process," said CU spokesman Bronson Hilliard.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahaha*gASP*HAhahahahahahahahaha
/grabs crotch
//I got you hall pass right here, LADY!
/Asshole.Think, before you speak.
 
2012-12-09 09:07:46 PM  

sycraft: I can see people being really worried and scared. After all, think about how you feel when you are pretty stoned or drunk. Think about some of the symptoms, like dizziness, lack of coordination, trouble concentrating, changes in temperature perception and so on. Everything is, well, different. Now when you get high/drunk you know what you are doing and why it happens so no big deal. But if that started happening to you all of a sudden, for no apparent reason? You might well freak out because you have no idea what is going wrong and there are some serious medical problems that can present similar symptoms.

Also, not everyone has something to compare it to. Not everyone gets high. So it isn't like everyone could even say "Oh this feel like when I'm high, that is probably what happened," never mind that suppressing higher reasoning is one of the effects.

So I can understand why they are in so much trouble.


This is what the big deal is. And why it's not funny. If you have no idea what's happening to you, you're going to be terrified, and that mental state is going to guarantee a bad trip. All those 70's and 80's comedies of people accidentally becoming stoned and wandering around in a beatific haze (which is what probably led to these idiots thinking "hey, this will be funny") are not real. If I was to get one of those brownies, my first thought would be to think I was having a psychotic break--since I'm bipolar, and I've had those before. Thinking you're losing your mind isn't really a happy-making experience.

Then there's the fact that you don't really know where your victims will be when the high hits. Driving along a busy highway? Taking care of their kids? Ha-ha, that will be really funny when they're taking an important final in a few hours and can't even remember how to spell their name! Or, you know, not.
 
2012-12-09 09:08:09 PM  

theteacher: You JUST GOT legalized weed. Don't go farking it up for everyone, jerkwads.


Somewhere in Colorado there's a staff DA who's done nothing but plead out nickel-and-dime possession charges for the last ten years. He's been wondering what he's going to do with all this extra time in his day. Guess what just became his full-time job?

That said, as a college professor, I would never, ever, ever eat any food prepared for me by a student. Ever. Are you kidding me?

/it'd have urine in it
//if I was lucky
 
2012-12-09 09:08:44 PM  
Idiots. Throw the book at them, twice, before they fark things up for everybody else.
 
2012-12-09 09:09:06 PM  

LDM90: But I have been assured by Fark that pot is completely harmless and just legalize it already!


None of these people were actually in any danger though. They just didn't know they were high, so they panicked and got help. But once it wore off in a few hours, there was no harm done.
 
2012-12-09 09:09:12 PM  

queen biatch of the universe: Bathia_Mapes:


Hmmm...maybe that would explain why I've gotten a migraine everytime I've smoked pot in the past.  Don't smoke it anymore because migraines suck, no matter the cause.

The first time I tried pot I had the same reaction. Many some farker can help a sister out here on this question. I smoke pot the first time with my sister who got it from a friend that grew it himself. Thought it would help my depression but it just gave me the migraine from hell, didn't touch it again until last year. Last year I was allowed to legally use medical marijuana to help with my side-effects from chemo. Never had a headache - was it just a different variety? Don't know much about the stuff outside of the fact it works like a charm for stopping nausea.


Pot has never given me a headache, but then again I hardly ever get headaches even when hung over. Usually if I do get a headache it's due to dehydration or completely unexplainable.

Pot doesn't cure them either - at least not in my experience.
 
2012-12-09 09:09:25 PM  
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2012-12-09 09:09:34 PM  

sycraft: I can see people being really worried and scared. After all, think about how you feel when you are pretty stoned or drunk. Think about some of the symptoms, like dizziness, lack of coordination, trouble concentrating, changes in temperature perception and so on. Everything is, well, different. Now when you get high/drunk you know what you are doing and why it happens so no big deal. But if that started happening to you all of a sudden, for no apparent reason? You might well freak out because you have no idea what is going wrong and there are some serious medical problems that can present similar symptoms.



Yeah, as an example of how bad things can go, the CIA played a little game called "Spike the Local Bread with LSD" on a small town in France back in 1951.

" In 1951, a quiet, picturesque village in southern France was suddenly and mysteriously struck down with mass insanity and hallucinations. At least five people died, dozens were interned in asylums and hundreds afflicted.

For decades it was assumed that the local bread had been unwittingly poisoned with a psychedelic mould. Now, however, an American investigative journalist has uncovered evidence suggesting the CIA peppered local food with the hallucinogenic drug LSD as part of a mind control experiment at the height of the Cold War.
"

Took 60 years to get to the bottom of the "mystery".

BAD CIA! BAD!
 
2012-12-09 09:10:13 PM  

fusillade762: Reminds me of the one (and only) episode of "ER" I ever watched (because it was directed by Quentin Tarantino). A bunch of kids end up in the ER after eating chocolates dosed with LSD. One of the nurses unwittingly eats one and wanders around all wide-eyed and pawing at the walls like a child. No. Just no. You'd think you were dying or had been poisoned.

Never watched that stupid show again.


You should really step back and see how foolish this post makes you look.

You claim to have never watched a particular show, save a single episode with a guest director, and yet somehow you formed the opinion that the show is stupid? Based in this, why should anyone, ever, give 2 shiats about your opinion about anything?
 
2012-12-09 09:10:23 PM  

Amos Quito: "The Boulder County district attorney will review the case, at which time Cunningham and Essa may each face more than 10 felonies, Huff said."


Seems a bit harsh.

Then again, it is NEVER cool to offer any intoxicant to unwitting / unwilling participants.


/Except Rohypnol, of course


As long as the eyes say yes, even when the mouth says no, you're fine with rohypnol.
 
2012-12-09 09:11:14 PM  

Gyrfalcon: All those 70's and 80's comedies of people accidentally becoming stoned and wandering around in a beatific haze (which is what probably led to these idiots thinking "hey, this will be funny") are not real.


Everyone who thinks this has to do with 70s or 80s comedies isn't thinking about when undergrads were born.

If you're 18, you were born in 1994 or so.
 
2012-12-09 09:11:54 PM  

Smackledorfer: Intent matters, and actual damage caused matters.

In that regard the punishment should fit the crime, and years in pmita prison for being stupid with pot brownies doesn't strike me as serving justice.

Any time above expulsion and a few months jailtime will be unlikely to increase the preventative aspect of the punishment, on others or on these morons. Extra time isn't likely to help rehabilitate these idiots.

So what is the point? A revenge sentence that costs society extra money and gives it nothing in return? No thanks.


If I were to give you spiked drinks with the intent that you have fun at a party and you end up getting in a fatal drunk driving accident, I'm going to go to jail. Because intent only matters to a certain extent. What also matters is what a reasonable person could expect to happen.

You drug someone against their will, you're responsible for the worst case scenarios of what can happen to them.

Putting someone in jail for years for smoking pot of their couch is retarded and yes, that is revenge sentencing. Putting someone in jail for years from drugging someone without their consent is just common sense.
 
2012-12-09 09:17:00 PM  

Dafatone: Gyrfalcon: All those 70's and 80's comedies of people accidentally becoming stoned and wandering around in a beatific haze (which is what probably led to these idiots thinking "hey, this will be funny") are not real.

Everyone who thinks this has to do with 70s or 80s comedies isn't thinking about when undergrads were born.

If you're 18, you were born in 1994 or so.


Pretty sure cable was around in '94.
 
2012-12-09 09:17:59 PM  

Smackledorfer: Intent matters, and actual damage caused matters.

In that regard the punishment should fit the crime, and years in pmita prison for being stupid with pot brownies doesn't strike me as serving justice.



Some companies, government contractors in particular, will take hair samples for drug testing, which can retain THC for 8-10 years. Depending on the chosen careers of the victims, this could seriously impact their job prospects for the next decade or so, perhaps longer if you count the damage caused by missing out on that good job straight out of college.

I'm not saying these guys should get life in prison for a prank, but I don't feel that 'time served' is sufficient for something that may continue to cause damage years in the future.
 
2012-12-09 09:19:24 PM  
Next on the list of 80s comedy film pranks to emulate, lets commit the crime of Rape by Deception!

www.tampabay.com
 
2012-12-09 09:19:32 PM  
Even if I knew what it felt like to be under the influence of marijuana, I think I'd really freak out if I just started feeling stoned and had no clue why.

Think about it--you'd just suddenly start feeling disoriented/etc., without knowing why you were feeling that way.

I mean, if someone dosed me with LSD without my knowing it, I wouldn't be like, "oh man, this is trippy and cool." I'd probably be like "someone call 911, I think I'm dying."
 
2012-12-09 09:20:45 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Dafatone: Gyrfalcon: All those 70's and 80's comedies of people accidentally becoming stoned and wandering around in a beatific haze (which is what probably led to these idiots thinking "hey, this will be funny") are not real.

Everyone who thinks this has to do with 70s or 80s comedies isn't thinking about when undergrads were born.

If you're 18, you were born in 1994 or so.

Pretty sure cable was around in '94.


Sure, and yeah, the "hilarity" of "get people high that don't realize it" stems from there. And other shows have made this joke since then. But I promise you neither of these kids know who Barney Miller is.
 
2012-12-09 09:21:44 PM  

Teresaol31: Home cooked treats and dishes are off limits.


I'm that way with bar food, God only knows whose grubby hands were in it before I got there.
 
2012-12-09 09:22:26 PM  

ambassador_ahab: Even if I knew what it felt like to be under the influence of marijuana, I think I'd really freak out if I just started feeling stoned and had no clue why.

Think about it--you'd just suddenly start feeling disoriented/etc., without knowing why you were feeling that way.

I mean, if someone dosed me with LSD without my knowing it, I wouldn't be like, "oh man, this is trippy and cool." I'd probably be like "someone call 911, I think I'm dying."


To make matters worse, eating pot will make you freak out way worse than smoking it.
 
2012-12-09 09:24:31 PM  
This reminds me of one of the urban legends at my high school.

There was a substitute teacher who just hated the students. He called everyone "genius" with dripping sarcasm and was just a huge tool.

The legend was that he had been a full-time teacher who was alright. Until someone slipped a hit of LSD into his coffee one morning.

Apparently, he ended up in the hospital after freaking out and that's why he went out of his way to be a dick to everyone.

Probably not true, but it was a great story to tell whenever someone asked why he abused everyone.
 
2012-12-09 09:26:07 PM  
I was expecting the "banana in the tailpipe trick".
 
2012-12-09 09:26:16 PM  
WTF are they doing holding a class for 12 pupils? No wonder higher Ed is so farked up.
 
2012-12-09 09:27:05 PM  

aninconvenienterection: fusillade762: Reminds me of the one (and only) episode of "ER" I ever watched (because it was directed by Quentin Tarantino). A bunch of kids end up in the ER after eating chocolates dosed with LSD. One of the nurses unwittingly eats one and wanders around all wide-eyed and pawing at the walls like a child. No. Just no. You'd think you were dying or had been poisoned.

Never watched that stupid show again.

You should really step back and see how foolish this post makes you look.

You claim to have never watched a particular show, save a single episode with a guest director, and yet somehow you formed the opinion that the show is stupid? Based in this, why should anyone, ever, give 2 shiats about your opinion about anything?


No one gives 2 shiats about my opinion anyway. How is this going to change anything?
 
2012-12-09 09:27:17 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Smackledorfer: Intent matters, and actual damage caused matters.

In that regard the punishment should fit the crime, and years in pmita prison for being stupid with pot brownies doesn't strike me as serving justice.

Any time above expulsion and a few months jailtime will be unlikely to increase the preventative aspect of the punishment, on others or on these morons. Extra time isn't likely to help rehabilitate these idiots.

So what is the point? A revenge sentence that costs society extra money and gives it nothing in return? No thanks.

If I were to give you spiked drinks with the intent that you have fun at a party and you end up getting in a fatal drunk driving accident, I'm going to go to jail. Because intent only matters to a certain extent. What also matters is what a reasonable person could expect to happen.

You drug someone against their will, you're responsible for the worst case scenarios of what can happen to them.

Putting someone in jail for years for smoking pot of their couch is retarded and yes, that is revenge sentencing. Putting someone in jail for years from drugging someone without their consent is just common sense.


So your response to "intent and actual damage caused matters" is to present a hypothetical with terrible results that outweigh the intent? Odd.

Are there any other crimes at all in which the penalty for an action is based on the worst possible outcome and ignores intent? I can't think of any.

You say your argument is based on common sense, which is a meaningless statement, and you ignore the entirety of the rest of the criminal justice system in the process.
 
2012-12-09 09:28:10 PM  

vice_magnet: WTF are they doing holding a class for 12 pupils? No wonder higher Ed is so farked up.


3/10
 
2012-12-09 09:28:48 PM  

vice_magnet: WTF are they doing holding a class for 12 pupils? No wonder higher Ed is so farked up.


I must be missing something...why is a class for 12 students bad?
 
2012-12-09 09:29:39 PM  
God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.
 
2012-12-09 09:31:18 PM  
This happened to me in high school, except it was mushrooms in cheese sauce at a fiesta in Spanish class. Thankfully it was pretty late in the day.

Pretty good day actually, looking back.
 
2012-12-09 09:35:03 PM  

Bob Falfa: Enjoy explaining your expulsion to your parents, asshats.


With any luck the parents will keep in touch.
 
2012-12-09 09:35:31 PM  
Yeah, you just don't give that shiat to someone who hasn't consented or even knows. That's pretty farked up, 'cause that's a totally different high.

On the other hand, if anyone wishes to feed me pot brownies, please do. Please. No, really, please?
 
2012-12-09 09:37:19 PM  

Happy Hours: queen biatch of the universe: Bathia_Mapes:


Hmmm...maybe that would explain why I've gotten a migraine everytime I've smoked pot in the past.  Don't smoke it anymore because migraines suck, no matter the cause.

The first time I tried pot I had the same reaction. Many some farker can help a sister out here on this question. I smoke pot the first time with my sister who got it from a friend that grew it himself. Thought it would help my depression but it just gave me the migraine from hell, didn't touch it again until last year. Last year I was allowed to legally use medical marijuana to help with my side-effects from chemo. Never had a headache - was it just a different variety? Don't know much about the stuff outside of the fact it works like a charm for stopping nausea.

Pot has never given me a headache, but then again I hardly ever get headaches even when hung over. Usually if I do get a headache it's due to dehydration or completely unexplainable.

Pot doesn't cure them either - at least not in my experience.


It does depend on what you smoked. Recently someone told me that smoking weed that was green (ie home grown that hadn't been properly cured) results in headaches. Don't know if that's true, but it came up because I also get migraines and smoke pot.

I find that smoking a bit along with my painkillers and a cup of tea is the perfect formula to get me through the pain. 2 different types of painkillers. If any of those things is missing it just doesn't hit the sweet spot.

These days quite a lot seems to be known about what all the different varieties have in them and what they are good for ....

Oh and I sympathise with the person who sounds like they have a bona fide mj allergy (also allergic to codeine - have heard that elsewhere recently). I didn't take it seriously at first because the only person I heard that from before was some whiny biatch who had a psychological reaction they didn't like, parroting what some nurse told them. Psychotic reactions, paranoia, white outs and so on DO happen, but they are not the same as an "allergy".
 
2012-12-09 09:37:39 PM  

queen biatch of the universe: I smoke pot the first time with my sister who got it from a friend that grew it himself. Thought it would help my depression but it just gave me the migraine from hell, didn't touch it again until last year. Last year I was allowed to legally use medical marijuana to help with my side-effects from chemo. Never had a headache - was it just a different variety?


Homegrown may have been the problem. I've heard of people who don't have all their shiat together using things like fertilizers or bug repellants that are absolutely not intended for human consumption. You may have been smoking Raid or something. Presumably your source for the medial pot was professional and knew what they were doing.
 
2012-12-09 09:37:41 PM  

Amos Quito: sycraft: I can see people being really worried and scared. After all, think about how you feel when you are pretty stoned or drunk. Think about some of the symptoms, like dizziness, lack of coordination, trouble concentrating, changes in temperature perception and so on. Everything is, well, different. Now when you get high/drunk you know what you are doing and why it happens so no big deal. But if that started happening to you all of a sudden, for no apparent reason? You might well freak out because you have no idea what is going wrong and there are some serious medical problems that can present similar symptoms.


Yeah, as an example of how bad things can go, the CIA played a little game called "Spike the Local Bread with LSD" on a small town in France back in 1951.

" In 1951, a quiet, picturesque village in southern France was suddenly and mysteriously struck down with mass insanity and hallucinations. At least five people died, dozens were interned in asylums and hundreds afflicted.

For decades it was assumed that the local bread had been unwittingly poisoned with a psychedelic mould. Now, however, an American investigative journalist has uncovered evidence suggesting the CIA peppered local food with the hallucinogenic drug LSD as part of a mind control experiment at the height of the Cold War. "

Took 60 years to get to the bottom of the "mystery".

BAD CIA! BAD!


Holy shiat! Thanks for posting that link. I knew about the "tainted" bread, but not this story.

When I learned about Frank Olsen I found myself becoming increasingly uneasy about what our modern-day spooks must be up to. This story reminds me just how far it went at the time.

What the hell must be going on our there today?
 
2012-12-09 09:37:58 PM  

Smackledorfer: Are there any other crimes at all in which the penalty for an action is based on the worst possible outcome and ignores intent? I can't think of any.


Copyright infringement.
 
2012-12-09 09:38:35 PM  
Was a funny highdea at the time.
 
2012-12-09 09:39:53 PM  

Happy Hours: Oh, and the hash episode of Barney Miller aired in 1976. The '70s called. They asked that you stop confusing them with the '80s.


whispers: Mooshie mooshie.
 
2012-12-09 09:41:35 PM  

Smackledorfer: Satanic_Hamster: Smackledorfer: I think felony is pushing it here. People have done and will do worse things, with malice no less, and gotten much less time.

When being an idiot about drugs is multiple felonies than hopefully battery is life in prison.

Drugging someone without their consent could hurt them severely, both physically or legally. What if they tried to drive, not knowing this? Or if they never realized they had pot brownies and work in a place that they're subject to drug tests?

You want to fark up your own life, that's your own business. But if you want to end or ruin another person's life then you should do some serious time.

Intent matters, and actual damage caused matters.

In that regard the punishment should fit the crime, and years in pmita prison for being stupid with pot brownies doesn't strike me as serving justice.

Any time above expulsion and a few months jailtime will be unlikely to increase the preventative aspect of the punishment, on others or on these morons. Extra time isn't likely to help rehabilitate these idiots.

So what is the point? A revenge sentence that costs society extra money and gives it nothing in return? No thanks.


You're right.
Just execute them
 
2012-12-09 09:41:41 PM  
Leary's Two Commandments:

Thou shalt not alter the consciousness of thy neighbor without his or her consent.

Thou shalt not prevent thy neighbor from altering his or her own consciousness.
 
2012-12-09 09:41:45 PM  

theteacher: You JUST GOT legalized weed. Don't go farking it up for everyone, jerkwads.


This.
 
2012-12-09 09:41:47 PM  

Smackledorfer: Are there any other crimes at all in which the penalty for an action is based on the worst possible outcome and ignores intent? I can't think of any.


Well, I was going to say shoplifting a candy bar, but then you put all these conditions on it like ignoring intent. I'm pretty sure the intent of a shoplifter includes depriving the store of their property and a legitimate sale. And there's also that the store is the victim. Smoking pot victimizes nobody but the toker.

But what the hell do I know - I'm victimizing myself with beer right now.
 
2012-12-09 09:45:01 PM  
The only thing worse than forcing unwitting consumption of pot because it's baked into brownies is forcing unwitting consumption of organized religion because it comes with a roof, a warm blanket and a hot meal.

/yes, sir, I'll assume the position
 
2012-12-09 09:45:12 PM  
They should get the same punishment as the people in the CIA who dosed people with out their knowledge.
 
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