Mr. Holmes: I just thought it was hilarious that the farking telecomm majors in TFA/Video kept on calling it "a weapon," or "the weapon." Kept on expecting them to call it an AK-47. Meanwhile, I looked it and thought, "Oh, cool, that one German gun from Call of Duty that doesn't suck."

//Anyone who likes the Kar 98 is a glutton for punishment.

I used to own the CoD 2 leader boards for a very long time using a kar98 or a Springfield rifle.

/grew up in Springfield, touring the old armory was one of my earliest thrills.

Whoever turned that in to be destroyed should be beaten. Goddamned pussies destroying history for paranoia.

What I wouldn't give to get hands on a PPK manufactured in Nazi Germany. Or at least an MP-40.

/Saving up for a Colt Python.
//Just bought an H&K USP Compact.

There's been similar happenings in the past and they still destroyed them because that was the rules of the gun buy back. Even in cases when it was something that the police could use themselves.

Taylor Mental: Finders keepers. The old bag should've paid up her cable bill to watch Pawn Stars so she'd know better.

They wouldn't have bothered to get it appraised since they cannot buy guns made after 1898.

Gun buy backs are a waste of time, taxpayer dollars and collectable firearms. At least these cops were surprisingly cool about the whole thing.

tallen702: Look again bubba: Link

There's no national registry for everyday run-of-the-mill firearms (aka Non-NFA firearms) However, for weapons that fall under the national firearms act of 1968 (and the subsequent modifications/additions/etc.) such as machine guns, yes, there is one and it is called "The National Firearm Registration and Transfer Record"

I'm only calling you out on it because you called the other guy bubba:

The NFA (National Firearms Act) was enacted in 1934 and restricted the sale of fully automatic weapons through taxation and a registry. The 1968 Firearm Owners Protection Act prohibited the registration of any new fully automatic firearms for civilian use, a de facto ban on the manufacture or sale of new fully automatic weapons to the general public.

If you're going to be anal about it, you better be right.

"You could kill a solider back then, and if the captain of your fighting unit signed off on it, you could send that gun home to your family or kid brother or cousin,"

You can't still do that? That's lame.

NFA: She can't legally possess that gun. Unless it's registered with that ATF in her name, it's illegal for her to possess it. The cops were right to say that it's a treasure and shouldn't be destroyed but it's an illegal gun. The penalty is 10 years in federal prison. Even if the gun was registered in her husband's for father's name, she can't possess it without having having it transfered to her name. Meanwhile it has to be in the possession of a class 3 dealer until the transfer occurs.

If the gun was never registered, it can't ever be registered.

Hey dude. Calm down.

vossiewulf: A Sturmgewehr 44, cool. World's first moderate-power cartridge, gas-operated, pistol grip assault rifle, the model followed by almost all modern guns. Then there's the long story of calling it the MP-44 to hide it from Hitler who didn't think the concept would work, then him finally trying it and ordering it into production. Used a fair amount of stampings but still typically German with too much skilled machine work required, the AK design is much simpler to manufacture.

BarkingUnicorn: If the deal's not undone, I don't see how they can "allow" her to sell it.

Think you're reading more into what he said than is there. The woman clearly wants to get rid of it, so I'm sure they're putting her in contact with museums and gun dealers so she can do so at a fair price.

I'm reading too much into TFA?

Relatively Obscure: Damnit. Pawn Stars image fail.



BarkingUnicorn: "This is a gun that should actually be in a museum rather than in a shredder,"
Crabtree said. And that's why they will allow the owner to sell the gun.

So she can only sell it to a museum?

Did she return the money the cops gave her? If the deal's not undone, I don't see how they can "allow" her to sell it.

You should probably treat news articles as not exact accounts of what was said and what happened.

No, one should read them and ask questions.

i.r.id10t: Hopefully it was properly taxed.... if it was, it would be worth 30-50k. Otherwise, it is an untaxed and therefore untransferrable and illegal as all heck to possess, so gotta give to ATF or a museum that has permission from ATF to have it.

Strangely enough in Miller v US regarding the NFA of '34 which was a deciding case on banning/taxing certain kinds of guns the SCOTUS ruled the 2nd only protects military type arms, and the un-registered (and therefore untaxed) sawed off shotgun and machine gun that Miller was busted with were not the type of arms being fielded by militaries...

I'm gonna have to double check, but I'm pretty sure that SBS were in use by the military in WWI for trench warfare. I know the cavalry units in the civil war used them. I understood that to be one of the bigger sticking points of Miller v US, well aside from Miller being dead and his legal team not actually being at the trial.