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(Some Guy)   Live video streaming of same-sex couples getting married today at City Hall in Seattle. Lots of dust in these old government buildings   (married.seattle.gov) divider line 96
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2012-12-09 06:40:34 PM  
7 votes:

jehovahs random negro: This is a wedding.



This is an atrocity.



If you can't tell the difference then you're a victim of the same politically correct government school mandate of "multiculturalism" and religious disrespect that has been tearing this country apart for 50 years now.

/not to mention spitting in the face of the Heroic Men who wore that uniform


My husband currently wears a Navy uniform and has for the past 26 years. He also enthusiastically voted for same-sex marriage in Washington because he believes in the Constitution which he has sworn to defend.

/plus he's not a bigoted asswipe
2012-12-09 02:52:37 PM  
7 votes:
There's also a huge crowd outside City Hall, cheering each newly wedded couple, handing them flowers and throwing rice as they walk down the steps. It's so beautiful to watch. I love my blue state.
2012-12-09 08:20:26 PM  
5 votes:

captainmaxthedestroyer:
I also think you are over glorifying the Gay struggle. You are only discriminated against as gay when you put it out there that you are gay. It isn't something that you cannot help but wear, like gender or race or age discrimination are.



Fark you, you wilfully ignorant piece of shiat. No, really, it's only that "I put it out there that I am gay" that my wife's insurance coverage through my work is taxed as income when the straight guys I work with get it for free for their wives. Somehow those 1,100+ rights and privileges granted to heterosexual couples will magically come my wife's and my way if we never, ever mention it - even though DOMA specifically prohibits it.

And fark you again for thinking that the only way I should live my life is to have to be silent and/or lie all the time. You are a real piece of work - that should be trashed.
2012-12-09 06:27:13 PM  
5 votes:

jayphat: I don't want to watch straight people get married with all the "look at me! look at me!" shiat that just gets old really fast, why the fark would I want to watch the same sex get married?


There will come a day when this is no longer exceptional, when it is common. And that day will be just as awesome as this one
2012-12-09 06:24:10 PM  
5 votes:

jayphat: I don't want to watch straight people get married with all the "look at me! look at me!" shiat that just gets old really fast, why the fark would I want to watch the same sex get married?


You don't have to, some people want to and no one is forced to participate. See everyone is happy.
2012-12-09 07:17:27 PM  
4 votes:
I just realized nobody's posted this yet:

i2.photobucket.com 

/it's kind of a tradition, it is not?
2012-12-09 06:33:38 PM  
4 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: Nobody cares, stop acting like you're so farking special.


You cared enough to post in this thread.
2012-12-09 05:58:32 PM  
4 votes:
would have been a great week to be in Seattle. First the pot prohibition ending and now this. + 2 for liberty and freedom
2012-12-09 08:24:16 PM  
3 votes:

captainmaxthedestroyer: Keizer_Ghidorah: captainmaxthedestroyer: GhostFish: captainmaxthedestroyer: That's it, they can do everything else. They are discriminated against only because of their behavior. But it's something they are capable of keeping private, so its not a glaring scarlet letter like race.

Right, we can just keep it private. And use lots of gender neutral pronouns and cumbersome terms like "significant other", or just run screaming from the room whenever the straight people want to talk about wives/girlfriends/husbands/boyfriends, dating and relationships.

Quit sounding butthurt. You're deliberately looking past my point.

Keizer_Ghidorah:

So you think they're doing it because they want to scream "LOOK AT MEEEEE!" and to force people to do things for them?

Somehow I doubt that you're not trolling.

A live marriage stream seems a bit...flamboyant.

/See what I did there?

Your point is that gays should shut up and fade away. We're saying no, they shouldn't. They're fellow human beings and American citizens who have been treated like animals because of farktarded religious assholes and shiatbrained bigots. You're upset because they're celebrating the fact that they're now being treated as equal citizens.

No, I think they should shut up, be thankful that it's slowly starting to become a reality, and quietly push forward the initiative until it's nationwide and people forget about it all together.

I also think you are over glorifying the Gay struggle. You are only discriminated against as gay when you put it out there that you are gay. It isn't something that you cannot help but wear, like gender or race or age discrimination are.


It is more important that gays get to marry than it is for society to shield your fragile self from it.
2012-12-09 07:07:32 PM  
3 votes:
Irish Catholic conservative here, can someone tell me how same sex marriage is bad for me or families or the country? What's the argument? Because for the life of me, I can't figure it out.

If two people love each other and want to take care of each other more power to them. Who am I to interfere with that? Like I said, I'm conservative, but I don't get the whole 'gay people are bad/evil etc.' thing.
2012-12-09 06:42:27 PM  
3 votes:

douchebag/hater: Big deal.

Normal people get married all the time but I don't see crowds cheering them on.


"Normal" people aren't just now getting a civil right granted to them which had previously been denied because of religious bigotry.
2012-12-09 06:37:05 PM  
3 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: Nobody cares, stop acting like you're so farking special.


Look at you, pretending you don't know the difference between 'special' and 'equal'.

Nice imitation of a derp-fueled halfwit.

Ya had me going there for a second, ya rascal!
2012-12-09 06:24:39 PM  
3 votes:

jayphat: I don't want to watch straight people get married with all the "look at me! look at me!" shiat that just gets old really fast, why the fark would I want to watch the same sex get married?


Who's forcing you to watch EITHER marriage? Why do people like you feel the need to say such retarded things?
2012-12-09 06:19:24 PM  
3 votes:
A momentous day. Good luck to all those happy newlyweds :3

And a "Suck it hard" to the homophobes, assholes, and conservatives.
2012-12-09 03:54:49 PM  
3 votes:
bitsandpieces.us
2012-12-09 03:00:18 PM  
3 votes:
Wish I could be there to cheer them on.  :-)
2012-12-09 10:22:55 PM  
2 votes:
Amusing/alarming number of Internet Tough Guy homophobes in this thread
2012-12-09 09:59:33 PM  
2 votes:
I'm late getting on the computer and onto Fark so I'm just getting to this story, but my congratulations to all of the newly wedded couples!!

My daughter will be marrying her girlfriend some time while she works on her 2nd Masters degree or Ph.D (her girlfriend already has her Ph.D). I want them to have the same rights, privileges and protections as different gendered couples (as her father and I did) have. Equal protection under the law, religious and cultural prejudices, falsehoods and bullshiat be damned!!!!!
2012-12-09 08:29:41 PM  
2 votes:

jehovahs random negro: This is a wedding.

[www.1950swedding.com image 676x519]

This is an atrocity.

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 500x332]

If you can't tell the difference then you're a victim of the same politically correct government school mandate of "multiculturalism" and religious disrespect that has been tearing this country apart for 50 years now.

/not to mention spitting in the face of the Heroic Men who wore that uniform


Whatever - but the important thing is BOTH are marriages. Equal, and just. It must be sad to live in your world where you spend all of your time and energy checking your ass to make sure that you can presume to be better than your equals. Plus, knowing deep down it'll never get better - you'll never have the fictional paradise where everyone "else" keeps the place you've set for them. Without that control, you JUST KNOW that you're nothing, and that lack of control (or at least it's presumed loss, since you never really ever possessed it) overwhelms so much of your life that you really can't ever be truly happy. You'll never have my respect - but for what it's worth you can have my pity.

You sound SO sad - doesn't he sound sad?
2012-12-09 08:23:56 PM  
2 votes:

tinfoil-hat maggie: zerkalo: jayphat: I don't want to watch straight people get married with all the "look at me! look at me!" shiat that just gets old really fast, why the fark would I want to watch the same sex get married?

There will come a day when this is no longer exceptional, when it is common. And that day will be just as awesome as this one

So much this!!!


Reminds me of an exchange I had with a friend not long ago:

me: "It'll be a milestone when the USA elects its first black lesbian atheist president."
friend: "It'll be a better milestone when the president being a black lesbian atheist isn't considered newsworthy."
2012-12-09 08:12:58 PM  
2 votes:

jehovahs random negro: This is a wedding.

[www.1950swedding.com image 676x519]

This is an atrocity.

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 500x332]

If you can't tell the difference then you're a victim of the same politically correct government school mandate of "multiculturalism" and religious disrespect that has been tearing this country apart for 50 years now.

/not to mention spitting in the face of the Heroic Men who wore that uniform


well goddamn, you people just can't help yourselves.
1/10
and a slash circle click for wasting my time.
2012-12-09 08:11:21 PM  
2 votes:

OtherLittleGuy: King Something:
Oh, and the lynch mobs. Can't forget about the rednecks who beat and kill gays because they are gay -- which is not something straight people generally need to worry about.

[www.blogcdn.com image 500x330]


Hey, guys, you know what it's like to be treated as sub-human because you were born in a way that you can't change, right? You fought and struggled for equality, right? You know all about marriage inequality when people were advocating anti-interracial marriage, right?

Then why are so many of you against allowing gays to have equal rights, hm? Seems pretty hypocritical to me.
2012-12-09 07:51:49 PM  
2 votes:

Uranus Megahertz: fknra: leave marriage to the church where it started. use the term domestic partner in all governmental forms in reference to the family unit and the issue goes away in a generation or two.

That's how I feel. Get married in the church. Get whatever privileges the church affords you. The US government will offer domestic partnerships, unions whatever and they get all the rights and privileges that married couples have been getting. You religious people don't like gays getting united than don't get one yourself. You have your marriage, go away and have babies. The rest of us will be going forward with love and respect.


And then suddenly all atheists and all people not married in a church wouldn't be "married" any more? Because a bunch of religious people have decided that "marriage" is *their* word and the government can't use it? Because the government should give a rat's ass what any religion wants from it, per the First Amendment? Yeah, that seems like a great idea.
2012-12-09 07:44:19 PM  
2 votes:

captainmaxthedestroyer: Quit sounding butthurt. You're deliberately looking past my point.


You had a point?
2012-12-09 07:38:33 PM  
2 votes:

fknra: eh... /shrug

i get why some celebrate this. and i get why some condemn it. it just doesn't conjure up an emotional response in me though. if two people love each other and want to legally bind their relationship, more power to em. i just don't believe a government stamped piece of paper should be a matter of consequence.

leave marriage to the church where it started. use the term domestic partner in all governmental forms in reference to the family unit and the issue goes away in a generation or two.


Sorry, dude, separate-but-equal is not equal. This is America, where "All men are created equal", and that equality trumps petty religious whining.
2012-12-09 07:30:03 PM  
2 votes:

captainmaxthedestroyer: Want to make sure you understand I'm not trolling.

I knew about the Boy Scouts (who cares, I'm sure there are pedophiles amongst them). As well as the military and typical marriage benefits that they can't get.

But I don't feel like it's those discriminatory reasons that they want equal rights. I feel like the way its being presented is that they want to have ceremony, like everybody else. And that screams of "hey! look at me!!!" And I think that is complete opposite of what civil rights are all about.

Women were second rate citizens for a hundred years. Blacks had slavery and then another hundred years of lynchings, drinking from toilets, riding on the back of the bus and unemployment after that. Neither women nor blacks could vote. And all simply because of how they looked. What they were physically.

Gays just can't get married or learn to tie knots at camp. That's it, they can do everything else. They are discriminated against only because of their behavior. But it's something they are capable of keeping private, so its not a glaring scarlet letter like race.

Any of that make sense? I mean, there's no logical reason why the state would ban any marriage between two willing parties. But I don't see why any church would have to acknowledge it either.

I just feel like all of this could've been worked out behind the scenes, passed, and then celebrated with one big gay ass wedding. Sort of how the marijuana legalization in Washington story evolved. It's just too in your face for me and dampens the achievement in my eyes.


So you think they're doing it because they want to scream "LOOK AT MEEEEE!" and to force people to do things for them?

Somehow I doubt that you're not trolling.
2012-12-09 06:56:36 PM  
2 votes:

jehovahs random negro:

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 500x332]

If you can't tell the difference,,,



I can tell you the difference. The bottom picture is farking gorgeous.
2012-12-09 06:52:40 PM  
2 votes:

lemortede: Bathia_Mapes: The first couple that was married today.
 
[pbs.twimg.com image 600x803]

I threw up in my mouth a little.
2 guys makes me sick.
2 girls..not bad, as long as they are not both uggos



No... you misunderstand... those are lesbians in that photo. That's what real lesbians look like. The "lesbians" in your sad little porn collection are actually straight gals trying to make some money.

Seriously, this is great. It's amazing to watch a paradigm shift in progress. Twenty years from now the bans on gay marriage will seem like the miscegenation laws of the 50's.
2012-12-09 06:46:09 PM  
2 votes:
And my life has not changed a bit. Guess my give-a-damn meter broke.

Good for all of them, but especially any that have waited decades. The rest of us change partners like we change clothes, but such devotion is awe inspiring.
2012-12-09 06:40:28 PM  
2 votes:

Lolpwnt: The real question is: why do we allow the government (at the state or federal level) to regulate marriage at all? All it is is a ceremony where two people say "I really like this other person!" WTF does the .gov have to do with that at all?


Because it is also a legal contract in regards to property rights.
2012-12-09 06:37:28 PM  
2 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: Nobody cares, stop acting like you're so farking special.


Finally being treated as equal American citizens and human beings in this United States of America "where all men are created equal" = "special"?

Why are you trolls so farking dumb?
2012-12-09 06:35:39 PM  
2 votes:
I'm just glad the Supreme Court is finally going to hear these cases so we can toss this government-sponsored homophobia bullsh*t into the can for good. The rationale for forbidding same-sex marriage is entirely religious, and according to the 1st Amendment we have no business codifying religious rules into federal or state law. There is no other reason to prevent same-sex marriage. The back-asswards churches don't have to marry The Gays if they don't want, but they have absolutely no right to force other people who have no association with them to adhere to their principles. Once again the Supreme Court has to drag conservatives, kicking and screaming, into the future by making them adhere to the Constitution they claim to venerate.
2012-12-09 06:33:01 PM  
2 votes:
This is a wedding.

www.1950swedding.com

This is an atrocity.

farm9.staticflickr.com

If you can't tell the difference then you're a victim of the same politically correct government school mandate of "multiculturalism" and religious disrespect that has been tearing this country apart for 50 years now.

/not to mention spitting in the face of the Heroic Men who wore that uniform
2012-12-09 06:21:23 PM  
2 votes:

Miss Stein: Hobodeluxe: would have been a great week to be in Seattle. First the pot prohibition ending and now this. + 2 for liberty and freedom

And the Seahawks are up 38-0 at halftime at home against the Cardinals. It's a wunnerful week to be in Seattle.


This should be the pitch for future gay marriage initiatives. "Let the gays marry and your team gets to put an utter beatdown on their opponents the Sunday it's legal"

Texas would be bussing in additional gay folks and financing their weddings.
2012-12-09 06:05:15 PM  
2 votes:
And so ends a long period of hatred and misunderstanding due to blind ignorance and bigotry.


/Good for all of you..and i wish you the best.
2012-12-09 06:03:30 PM  
2 votes:
Am I bad because seeing two men kissing makes me want to gag?
2012-12-09 05:01:11 PM  
2 votes:
This picture makes my heart happy. You gentlemen go with your awesome selves.
2012-12-09 03:25:04 PM  
2 votes:
https://twitter.com/cityofseattle
 
Seattle's twitter feed, which has photos of some of the newlywed couples. 
2012-12-09 03:07:59 PM  
2 votes:
That's very cool.
Wish I could be there.
2012-12-10 12:03:57 PM  
1 votes:

FuryOfFirestorm: common sense is an oxymoron: tinfoil-hat maggie: KarmaSpork: Wow, none of the A-list trolls will even touch this one, lol.

All we have here are the wanna-be and Z-list trolls, and they are not entertaining.

I know right and most of the trolls that have come in here I haven't even seen before, weird.


Yep. A lot of new Yellow 3 in this thread.

What a coincidence! That's the same color I use for trolls as well!


I use a "strike" system, so for me it goes red 5, red 4 ... red 1, and then sometime after that they go on ignore.

But if they do anything to redeem themselves, they go into the orange or yellow zone. I have a lot of farkers farkied as "mixed" in this way Most people on Fark will eventually say something worth listening to, if you wait long enough.

Then, of course, there's this thread.
2012-12-10 08:16:37 AM  
1 votes:

Poo_Fight: seadoo2006: /Just be a good person

Wow, that is word for word what my devout Catholic Mother would tell me when I questioned our religion. She would sum it up by saying "Just be a good person. God knows you." She would also constantly remind me not to judge other people for who they are. "Listen!" she would exclaim "We are ALL just as god made us."


DAMN, I miss her...


Sounds like if there really is a God, he greeted her at the gate. :)
2012-12-10 01:21:45 AM  
1 votes:
captainmaxthedestroyer: herp derp

Read a history book and you might notice that there were parades in the streets when women gained the right to vote, when blacks gained true equality, etc. I'm sure you would classify those as "LOOK AT ME!" too. Guess what? People celebrate when they're happy. They even celebrate publically. Unless they're horribly restrained.
2012-12-10 12:02:35 AM  
1 votes:

fknra: eh... /shrug

i get why some celebrate this. and i get why some condemn it. it just doesn't conjure up an emotional response in me though. if two people love each other and want to legally bind their relationship, more power to em. i just don't believe a government stamped piece of paper should be a matter of consequence.

leave marriage to the church where it started. use the term domestic partner in all governmental forms in reference to the family unit and the issue goes away in a generation or two.


The only flaw in your argument is that marriage didn't start with the church, and even in the assbackwards parts of the US of A, you aren't legally married unless the civil paper work is done. Weddings take place in a church, the act of marriage takes place on paper.
2012-12-09 10:36:30 PM  
1 votes:

Tyranicle: PsiChick: About damn time.

/If I watched the feed I think I'd never get work done...

Yeah, 'about damn time'. Homos acount for two to three percent of any westernized country. When have homosexuals ever wanted to get married? This ghey marriage crap is a facade produced by the media and only the media so nice jewish people don't get killed. Ghey marriage is used as a means to destabilise people so the nice jewish people don't get their asses blown up from suicide bombers.


Look at how stupid you are.
2012-12-09 10:31:34 PM  
1 votes:

D_Evans45: So now that weve trampled the oppressive anti-gay, anti-pot-prohibition agenda, what do WA residents have to rally against now?


Reforming our cripplingly regressive tax code so we don't keep having giant holes blown in the budget.

Or running Tim Eyman out of the state on a rail. Either is good.
2012-12-09 10:19:38 PM  
1 votes:

stirfrybry: Why do I feel like having sex with a turtle? We were warned!!


That slippery slope? Yep, covered in Astroglide
2012-12-09 10:02:03 PM  
1 votes:
Congratulations to all the newly wedded couples, and I'm sorry it took so long.
2012-12-09 09:18:03 PM  
1 votes:

Uranus Megahertz: austerity101: And then suddenly all atheists and all people not married in a church wouldn't be "married" any more? Because a bunch of religious people have decided that "marriage" is *their* word and the government can't use it? Because the government should give a rat's ass what any religion wants from it, per the First Amendment? Yeah, that seems like a great idea.

Those that got married at a courthouse or other locale officiated by a government official would be cool. If you were married in a church, a religious institution or even by a religious official and you want continue to enjoy the rights and privileges that the states allow, then you both must apply for a civil union/domestic partnership.
Yeah, it'll be a cluster-fyck for a year at the court offices but government will be out of the church and vice-versa.


You know you can already get a government marriage without god or a marriage under god without telling the government right?

The only overlap is the term and the convenience extended to the church giving their marriages recognition if they want it. The latter is something no one is against. The former... Well you have a lot of work to do if you want to eliminate multiple definitions for words.
2012-12-09 09:09:24 PM  
1 votes:
And it's about dang time!

Congrats to all the newly married couples, to all the folks that can consider it as a real option now, and to those of you who were sane enough to let people love equally under the eyes of the law.

/*sniff*
2012-12-09 09:00:36 PM  
1 votes:

jehovahs random negro: This is a wedding.

[www.1950swedding.com image 676x519]

This is an atrocity.

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 500x332]

If you can't tell the difference then you're a victim of the same politically correct government school mandate of "multiculturalism" and religious disrespect that has been tearing this country apart for 50 years now.

/not to mention spitting in the face of the Heroic Men who wore that uniform


A lot of heroic men AND women wore and wear the uniform and serve our country with honor. Why should they or anyone else be kept from marrying whomever they love because YOU and your backward religious beliefs say it's wrong? You are free to live by your beliefs, they should be able to live by theirs. That's not disrespect for your religion, it's freedom.
2012-12-09 08:55:23 PM  
1 votes:
Keizer_Ghidorah SmartestFunniest 2012-12-09 08:45:55 PM


Gdalescrboz: Keizer_Ghidorah

Gdalescrboz: Oh wow, sweet, awesome. Where are the liberals biatching about a religious ceremony being held in a public building?

Religion is being used for good this time.

True, but if you put up a nativity scene, holy shiat is that evil

I'm not against that either, as long as other religions get to have their scenes up as well. Unfortunately, Christians seem to think that they're the only ones allowed to do such things.


Let's face it. Liberals are no different than the religious right they can't stand. They are against something until it's somethign they support, then it's ok. Just like in this instance. They convince themselves otherwise, but they are lying to themsleves.
2012-12-09 08:52:55 PM  
1 votes:

captainmaxthedestroyer: roadmarks: Smackledorfer:
On the plus side there is so much support for your cause that this generic wargarbling is the only thing a lot of bigots are even willing to say.

Couple more decades...

It may not take even that long, depending on SCOTUS. Labgrrl and I were married in NY a year and a half ago when it was first allowed here. It would be very nice to have that particular discriminatory tax bite taken away.

I would really like to see WorldCitizen and people like him be able to sponsor their partners for admittance into the US. Labgrrl and I have had some relief at the state level - his can only come through Federal action.

Take it one state at a time. Make it successful where each opportunity is given (ie low divorce rates, pay your taxes) and by the time it reaches the federal level there will be no attention paid to it. No opposition either. It will just be another law.


Damn you are an idiot. It is ALREADY at the Federal level. Somehow DOMA is going to magically disappear if all of us pretend top be straight again and nobody will pay any attention to it?

Unicorns and fairies must fly around in your world, and you claim you're not gay?
2012-12-09 08:45:55 PM  
1 votes:

Gdalescrboz: Keizer_Ghidorah

Gdalescrboz: Oh wow, sweet, awesome. Where are the liberals biatching about a religious ceremony being held in a public building?

Religion is being used for good this time.

True, but if you put up a nativity scene, holy shiat is that evil


I'm not against that either, as long as other religions get to have their scenes up as well. Unfortunately, Christians seem to think that they're the only ones allowed to do such things.
2012-12-09 08:44:14 PM  
1 votes:

Smackledorfer:
On the plus side there is so much support for your cause that this generic wargarbling is the only thing a lot of bigots are even willing to say.

Couple more decades...


It may not take even that long, depending on SCOTUS. Labgrrl and I were married in NY a year and a half ago when it was first allowed here. It would be very nice to have that particular discriminatory tax bite taken away.

I would really like to see WorldCitizen and people like him be able to sponsor their partners for admittance into the US. Labgrrl and I have had some relief at the state level - his can only come through Federal action.
2012-12-09 08:39:48 PM  
1 votes:

douchebag/hater: Big deal.

Normal people get married all the time but I don't see crowds cheering them on.


You know how I know you've never been to a wedding? Christ.

I have no flipping idea when this will happen in my state, which is a f--king shame, but for all the incredible BS committed gay couples have to go through - benefits spouses don't get, money to lawyers so they can try to make sure their kids will be protected if one partner dies, etc., - for all that I've seen friends and acquaintances struggle with because of discriminating assholes - I will probably be standing outside my City Hall when they can marry in my state.

I don't know when that'll be, but it's inevitable.

andrewgelman.com

/Congrats, Washington
2012-12-09 08:38:11 PM  
1 votes:

Poo_Fight: Irish Catholic conservative here, can someone tell me how same sex marriage is bad for me or families or the country? What's the argument? Because for the life of me, I can't figure it out.

If two people love each other and want to take care of each other more power to them. Who am I to interfere with that? Like I said, I'm conservative, but I don't get the whole 'gay people are bad/evil etc.' thing.


Because our religion believes that it's an abomination to humanity. That's it, that's all. That since gays cannot be married within the Church, then any sexual acts are then outside of the bonds of marriage (which is a Catholic no-no).

So, in essence, the Catholics have created a catch-22 for gay and lesbians. They are not sinners unless they act on their sexual impulses, but in order to act sexually, they need to be married, but the Church says they can't get married.

It's dumb, it's antiquated, and it makes about as much sense as the Vatican's prohibition on prophylactics and birth control.

In short, I'm Catholic, but technically not because I disagree with the Church on many of their social issues. But, whatever, most Catholics are the same way. The Vatican has been trying to keep the Church's shiat together for the better portion of the last century, but the problem is US Catholicism is awfully liberal compared to the Vatican.

/Just be a good person ... if there is a God, I doubt he's going to be a vindictive prick because you had sex before you were married, you used a condom, or you believe that man/man or woman/woman love is right and good. If God is really that way, well, rest assured that you'll be in good company with the majority of everyone else in this world in Hell.
2012-12-09 08:22:14 PM  
1 votes:
Oh wow, sweet, awesome. Where are the liberals biatching about a religious ceremony being held in a public building?
2012-12-09 08:18:04 PM  
1 votes:

captainmaxthedestroyer: Bisu: captainmaxthedestroyer: King Something: captainmaxthedestroyer: I don't understand why same sex marriage is even discussed. The arguments don't make sense.

Which arguments, the ones in favor of gay marriage (civil rights for all) or the ones against (homofags make Baby Jesus™ cry)?

Both, really. I don't understand why the opposed are so against it. Marriage has no effect on anybody outside of the marriage. And I don't understand why the gays feel so discriminated, as if there are truly things you can't do in this country because youre gay.

It's a waste of time for all.

To me it's the legal benefits and rights of a state-recognized marriage. Not having to testify against your spouse, inheritance advantages, etc.

Here are some listed

I don't really see why people care that it's called marriage or not called marriage. I haven't thought about that enough to have an opinion. But overall it seems people against same-sex marriage should be against the churches that perform a religious wedding for a gay couple (spiritual marriage), not the government contractually uniting them (legal marriage). I don't see why anyone would have a problem with these courthouse-set legal marriages.

I think that's what I'm getting at. These legal benefits should be awarded to all unions, providing both parties are willing. This is one of the simplest debates that somehow people (even those at the top of our judicial system) can't separate the concept of church and state. Marriage is all or none or it needs to be redefined.

If a church thinks gay marriage is wrong, then so be it. You ain't gettin' married there.

Also, if you have a ceremony at the courthouse you are a douchebag. Gay or not. I don't want to walk through a bunch of cretins taking pictures when I'm on my way to pay my fines.


Oh boo hoo.
2012-12-09 08:14:46 PM  
1 votes:

jehovahs random negro: Pathetic. A celebration of moral depravity with the full support of government in direct violation of the First Amendment. We're shredding the Constitution and dancing while this once great country burns.

Pick up your guns, boys and girls. The Democrats are just getting warmed up.


My cousin, who was among those married today (and has been faithful to his partner longer than Newt Gingrich was married to his first wife), will be happy to find out I told you that you are a horrible person who makes Jesus cry.
2012-12-09 08:08:15 PM  
1 votes:

captainmaxthedestroyer: Keizer_Ghidorah: captainmaxthedestroyer: GhostFish: captainmaxthedestroyer: That's it, they can do everything else. They are discriminated against only because of their behavior. But it's something they are capable of keeping private, so its not a glaring scarlet letter like race.

Right, we can just keep it private. And use lots of gender neutral pronouns and cumbersome terms like "significant other", or just run screaming from the room whenever the straight people want to talk about wives/girlfriends/husbands/boyfriends, dating and relationships.

Quit sounding butthurt. You're deliberately looking past my point.

Keizer_Ghidorah:

So you think they're doing it because they want to scream "LOOK AT MEEEEE!" and to force people to do things for them?

Somehow I doubt that you're not trolling.

A live marriage stream seems a bit...flamboyant.

/See what I did there?

Your point is that gays should shut up and fade away. We're saying no, they shouldn't. They're fellow human beings and American citizens who have been treated like animals because of farktarded religious assholes and shiatbrained bigots. You're upset because they're celebrating the fact that they're now being treated as equal citizens.

No, I think they should shut up, be thankful that it's slowly starting to become a reality, and quietly push forward the initiative until it's nationwide and people forget about it all together.

I also think you are over glorifying the Gay struggle. You are only discriminated against as gay when you put it out there that you are gay. It isn't something that you cannot help but wear, like gender or race or age discrimination are.


Now you're saying that they should stay hidden and in fear because they happen to love the same gender, to not do what other people do with those they love in public like hold hands, kiss, cuddle, and be themselves. Sure, they can do that when straight people stop wearing their sexuality on their sleeves and doing all of that in public. Sound good?

Maybe people like you should stop obsessing over what other people do, think, say, and act if it doesn't concern or harm you in the slightest.
2012-12-09 08:01:40 PM  
1 votes:

zerkalo: There will come a day when this is no longer exceptional, when it is common. And that day will be just as awesome as this one


48 years. ( I'm drawing a direct parallel to the Civil Rights Act of 1964)

/ one of my Grandparents was horrified when that was passed
// his opinion, and the opinion of some of his generation no longer matter, because they passed away....
2012-12-09 07:58:58 PM  
1 votes:

Because People in power are Stupid: [bitsandpieces.us image 500x375]


I was so certain the part after "I always cry at weddings" was going to be "and laugh at funerals!"

/You can take the Farkette out of Rocky, but you can't take the Rocky out of the Farkette, I guess.
2012-12-09 07:46:25 PM  
1 votes:

fknra: eh... /shrug

i get why some celebrate this. and i get why some condemn it. it just doesn't conjure up an emotional response in me though. if two people love each other and want to legally bind their relationship, more power to em. i just don't believe a government stamped piece of paper should be a matter of consequence.

leave marriage to the church where it started. use the term domestic partner in all governmental forms in reference to the family unit and the issue goes away in a generation or two.


I get the anti-gay and pro-gay views. I don't get yours.

You say more power to 'em, but at the same time you don't care if they were stuck with lower civil liberties. At least the homophobes are taking liberties away for the good of society, in their minds. You, however, are perfectly fine with a loss of rights despite knowing gay marriage isn't 'bad'.

That is worse than the religious bigots: at least they mean well.
2012-12-09 07:45:11 PM  
1 votes:

captainmaxthedestroyer: GhostFish: captainmaxthedestroyer: That's it, they can do everything else. They are discriminated against only because of their behavior. But it's something they are capable of keeping private, so its not a glaring scarlet letter like race.

Right, we can just keep it private. And use lots of gender neutral pronouns and cumbersome terms like "significant other", or just run screaming from the room whenever the straight people want to talk about wives/girlfriends/husbands/boyfriends, dating and relationships.

Quit sounding butthurt. You're deliberately looking past my point.

Keizer_Ghidorah:

So you think they're doing it because they want to scream "LOOK AT MEEEEE!" and to force people to do things for them?

Somehow I doubt that you're not trolling.

A live marriage stream seems a bit...flamboyant.

/See what I did there?


Your point is that gays should shut up and fade away. We're saying no, they shouldn't. They're fellow human beings and American citizens who have been treated like animals because of farktarded religious assholes and shiatbrained bigots. You're upset because they're celebrating the fact that they're now being treated as equal citizens.
2012-12-09 07:45:07 PM  
1 votes:

captainmaxthedestroyer: King Something: captainmaxthedestroyer: I don't understand why same sex marriage is even discussed. The arguments don't make sense.

Which arguments, the ones in favor of gay marriage (civil rights for all) or the ones against (homofags make Baby Jesus™ cry)?

Both, really. I don't understand why the opposed are so against it. Marriage has no effect on anybody outside of the marriage. And I don't understand why the gays feel so discriminated, as if there are truly things you can't do in this country because youre gay.

It's a waste of time for all.


To me it's the legal benefits and rights of a state-recognized marriage. Not having to testify against your spouse, inheritance advantages, etc.

Here are some listed

I don't really see why people care that it's called marriage or not called marriage. I haven't thought about that enough to have an opinion. But overall it seems people against same-sex marriage should be against the churches that perform a religious wedding for a gay couple (spiritual marriage), not the government contractually uniting them (legal marriage). I don't see why anyone would have a problem with these courthouse-set legal marriages.
2012-12-09 07:42:44 PM  
1 votes:
leave marriage to the church where it started

You might want to read up on the history of marriage.
2012-12-09 07:32:09 PM  
1 votes:

jehovahs random negro: This is a wedding.

[www.1950swedding.com image 676x519]

This is an atrocity.

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 500x332]

If you can't tell the difference then you're a victim of the same politically correct government school mandate of "multiculturalism" and religious disrespect that has been tearing this country apart for 50 years now.

/not to mention spitting in the face of the Heroic Men who wore that uniform


lolpics.se
2012-12-09 07:31:02 PM  
1 votes:

Miss Stein: Hobodeluxe: would have been a great week to be in Seattle. First the pot prohibition ending and now this. + 2 for liberty and freedom

And the Seahawks are up 38-0 at halftime at home against the Cardinals. It's a wunnerful week to be in Seattle.


58-0 now. The god of tits and wine is smiling upon us today!
2012-12-09 07:18:25 PM  
1 votes:

Poo_Fight: Irish Catholic conservative here, can someone tell me how same sex marriage is bad for me or families or the country? What's the argument? Because for the life of me, I can't figure it out.
If two people love each other and want to take care of each other more power to them. Who am I to interfere with that? Like I said, I'm conservative, but I don't get the whole 'gay people are bad/evil etc.' thing.


Well, you're not really supposed to question your religion's beliefs or dictates. I'm not sure what to tell you.
2012-12-09 07:02:39 PM  
1 votes:

captainmaxthedestroyer: King Something: captainmaxthedestroyer: I don't understand why same sex marriage is even discussed. The arguments don't make sense.

Which arguments, the ones in favor of gay marriage (civil rights for all) or the ones against (homofags make Baby Jesus™ cry)?

Both, really. I don't understand why the opposed are so against it. Marriage has no effect on anybody outside of the marriage. And I don't understand why the gays feel so discriminated, as if there are truly things you can't do in this country because youre gay.

It's a waste of time for all.


Well, there ARE things you cannot do in this country if you are gay. Specifically, marriage, and all associated benefits such as joint ownership of property and hospital visitation (hence today's celebration in Seattle, as that restriction is no longer in effect in Washington).

There are also other things not open to homosexuals, such as being allowed in the Boy Scouts -- and until recently, being allowed in the military. Not to mention that in Virginia, public colleges are REQUIRED to discriminate against homosexuals.

Oh, and the lynch mobs. Can't forget about the rednecks who beat and kill gays because they are gay -- which is not something straight people generally need to worry about.
2012-12-09 06:49:56 PM  
1 votes:

Anderson's Pooper: I was all in favor of gay marriage because my gay friends promised me they weren't looking for any special treatment, just equality. Now it turns out they're keeping government offices open on a Sunday so they can all get hitched at the same time. If they just wanted equality, they should have waited for tomorrow during regular court business hours. Guess it's time to start screwing my turtle.

/The above is sarcasm
//But I expect to hear it non sarcastically from Fox tomorrow
///Conservative Ally


I can't even imagine how FAUX News, Rush Limbaugh, and the rest of the swine are going to be like about this tomorrow.
2012-12-09 06:49:25 PM  
1 votes:

King Something: jehovahs random negro: This is a wedding.

[www.1950swedding.com image 676x519]

This is an atrocity.

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 500x332]

If you can't tell the difference then you're a victim of the same politically correct government school mandate of "multiculturalism" and religious disrespect that has been tearing this country apart for 50 years now.

/not to mention spitting in the face of the Heroic Men who wore that uniform

Both pics are of two people who love each other getting married. What's the difference between those two photos (apart from technical details of the photos themselves, such as color and aspect ratio)?

/oh by the way, I'm one of your "heroes" who wore that uniform


And I am an ordained clergywoman who feels in no way disrespected by this. Your box is too small for my God.

My congratulations to all the happy couples, and best wishes for a long and happy marriage!
2012-12-09 06:49:20 PM  
1 votes:

kimwim: Knob_Gobbler: thought of eating pussy makes a lot of gay men gag.

Knob_Gobbler: DorkusThe2nd: Am I bad because seeing two men kissing makes me want to gag?

No, but it makes you bad if you want prevent them from getting married. I think the thought of eating pussy makes a lot of gay men gag.

Straight men, too. :-(


You know my ex-husband too?
2012-12-09 06:49:03 PM  
1 votes:

King Something: captainmaxthedestroyer: I don't understand why same sex marriage is even discussed. The arguments don't make sense.

Which arguments, the ones in favor of gay marriage (civil rights for all) or the ones against (homofags make Baby Jesus™ cry)?


Both, really. I don't understand why the opposed are so against it. Marriage has no effect on anybody outside of the marriage. And I don't understand why the gays feel so discriminated, as if there are truly things you can't do in this country because youre gay.

It's a waste of time for all.
2012-12-09 06:45:59 PM  
1 votes:

jehovahs random negro: Pathetic. A celebration of moral depravity with the full support of government in direct violation of the First Amendment. We're shredding the Constitution and dancing while this once great country burns.

Pick up your guns, boys and girls. The Democrats are just getting warmed up.



Not only a troll, but a constitutionally illiterate troll.

/and a real merkin too
2012-12-09 06:44:06 PM  
1 votes:

kimwim: Knob_Gobbler: thought of eating pussy makes a lot of gay men gag.

Knob_Gobbler: DorkusThe2nd: Am I bad because seeing two men kissing makes me want to gag?

No, but it makes you bad if you want prevent them from getting married. I think the thought of eating pussy makes a lot of gay men gag.

Straight men, too. :-(


------

Hint - they're not really straight
2012-12-09 06:44:03 PM  
1 votes:

douchebag/hater: Big deal.

Normal people get married all the time but I don't see crowds cheering them on.


He comes, he shiats, he leaves!
HE COMES, HE SHIATS, HE LEAVES!
HE COMES, HE SHIATS, HE LEAVES!
2012-12-09 06:43:50 PM  
1 votes:
this is made of a bazillion types of awesome.
2012-12-09 06:43:17 PM  
1 votes:

douchebag/hater: Big deal.

Normal people get married all the time but I don't see crowds cheering them on.


You obviously missed the royal wedding. And my local paper had a prominently featured article about a city councilman whose leaving the job at the end of the year getting married. And every late night talk show guest gets a round of applause for saying "I've been married for x years"
2012-12-09 06:35:53 PM  
1 votes:

jayphat: I don't want to watch straight people get married with all the "look at me! look at me!" shiat that just gets old really fast, why the fark would I want to watch the same sex get married?


Nobody is forcing you to watch, so if you don't want to watch you don't have to.

The reason for the celebration is that they are no longer prohibited from marrying the people they love.

Suppose bacon was outlawed because some religious nutjobs don't like the way it tastes and found some passage in a 3000-year-old collection of fairy tales which had already been around for thousands of years at that point before someone decided to write them down that supported their opinion that bacon is evil. Then, eventually, enough people got together to pass a resolution that declared bacon to be delicious, non-evil, and LEGAL. Wouldn't you celebrate with a baconburger, some bacon-fried bacon on the side and a glass of bacon vodak?
2012-12-09 06:35:31 PM  
1 votes:

jehovahs random negro: This is a wedding.

[www.1950swedding.com image 676x519]

This is an atrocity.

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 500x332]

If you can't tell the difference then you're a victim of the same politically correct government school mandate of "multiculturalism" and religious disrespect that has been tearing this country apart for 50 years now.

/not to mention spitting in the face of the Heroic Men who wore that uniform


Is it just me or are those ladies on the right steps really really tiny? Like really tiny.
2012-12-09 06:34:51 PM  
1 votes:

jehovahs random negro: This is a wedding.

[www.1950swedding.com image 676x519]

This is an atrocity.

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 500x332]

If you can't tell the difference then you're a victim of the same politically correct government school mandate of "multiculturalism" and religious disrespect that has been tearing this country apart for 50 years now.

/not to mention spitting in the face of the Heroic Men who wore that uniform


Bored because there aren't any Benghazi threads to shiat in?
2012-12-09 06:23:33 PM  
1 votes:
City of Seattle @CityofSeattle

Overheard, a volunteer: "this is one of the best things I've ever done."
2012-12-09 06:22:13 PM  
1 votes:
I don't want to watch straight people get married with all the "look at me! look at me!" shiat that just gets old really fast, why the fark would I want to watch the same sex get married?
2012-12-09 06:18:47 PM  
1 votes:
I'm so wishy washy. I'm crying tears of joy for these couples ^_^
2012-12-09 06:04:57 PM  
1 votes:

DorkusThe2nd: Am I bad because seeing two men kissing makes me want to gag?


No, but it makes you bad if you want prevent them from getting married. I think the thought of eating pussy makes a lot of gay men gag.
2012-12-09 05:58:30 PM  
1 votes:

jehovahs random negro: Pathetic. A celebration of moral depravity with the full support of government in direct violation of the First Amendment. We're shredding the Constitution and dancing while this once great country burns.

Pick up your guns, boys and girls. The Democrats are just getting warmed up.


But the democrats already took our guns. :(
2012-12-09 05:53:41 PM  
1 votes:
Pathetic. A celebration of moral depravity with the full support of government in direct violation of the First Amendment. We're shredding the Constitution and dancing while this once great country burns.

Pick up your guns, boys and girls. The Democrats are just getting warmed up.
2012-12-09 05:12:42 PM  
1 votes:

Miss Stein: This picture makes my heart happy. You gentlemen go with your awesome selves.



I saw that on fark the other day and it put a big old happy smile on my face.  I hope these gentlemen are amongst those getting married today.
2012-12-09 04:54:01 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Heh!  It's okay.  We won't be too harsh on you.


TY but it's Bob the Flower I truly fear. I don't want to ever get him angry again.

*shudders*

/I don't like him when he's angry.
2012-12-09 04:38:54 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: It's a symbol of good luck, fertility and abundance.


Thanks, That makes more sense to me. As in "some".

/Still filing 'rice throwing' under "people are weird".

Rincewind53: Dan Savage's family is adorable


Totes. Thanks for sharing that. Dan's 'Savage Love' column is still the first thing I hit up when I pick up a Georgia Straight newspaper and I'm very happy for him, his family and all the other families like him on this most auspicious and long sought day.

Not sure which is making me happier at this moment the thought of all these newly married couples plighting their troths en masse with such obvious love or the thought of Frothy Santorum somewhere in his basement curled up into a fetal ball sobbing uncontrollably.

Their both so good it's hard to choose.
2012-12-09 04:26:54 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: http://www.flickr.com/groups/marriedinseattle/pool/
 
Some awesome pictures of newlywed couples.


Dan Savage's family is adorable:

farm9.staticflickr.com
2012-12-09 04:16:09 PM  
1 votes:
WooT! ^__^

Good times are good!

This is what moral evolution looks like, kids. Glad someone brought a camera.

That all cheerfully noted, I still really don't get the rice thing.

Why rice, why throw? What this is, I don't even...

This has always confused me but somehow never enough to ever bother googling for an answer.

Anyone? Some animistic thing? Paganistic throwback perhaps?
2012-12-09 03:32:00 PM  
1 votes:
It's about damn time. Bestr of wishes to all the couples.
2012-12-09 03:25:45 PM  
1 votes:
And it was good.
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-12-09 03:16:14 PM  
1 votes:
It's always a good thing to see such a happy story about people doing the right thing.
 
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