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(Associated Press)   New York only had 34 years' warning to plan for a superstorm - but really, there were more important things like bribes to take, unions to coddle, bribes to take, interns to bang, influence to sell, bribes to take, spam, spam, baked beans and spam   (registerstar.com) divider line 130
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2012-12-09 09:34:32 AM
Baked beans are off.
 
2012-12-09 01:43:29 PM

Elvis_Bogart: Baked beans are off.


groceryfoodfight.com
 
2012-12-09 01:43:31 PM
so it's just like everywhere else.
 
2012-12-09 01:45:08 PM
So what you're saying is, it's kind of like the levees in NOLA. Oh human nature, never change

/sarcasm
 
2012-12-09 01:45:12 PM
Let me guess, in an effort to piggyback Sandy on Katrina, the Right is claiming that NYC wasted their levee monies on fried chicken and watermelon.
 
2012-12-09 01:45:36 PM
Corpus Christi has been hit 6 times between 1919 and 1980, an average of once every 10 years.

Since then we have not had a major hurricane, which means 75% of the people in this town have never seen one at all---and 90% have never seen a bad one.

It is a prescription for disaster, Murphy will getcha every time.
 
2012-12-09 01:45:54 PM

Apik0r0s: Let me guess, in an effort to piggyback Sandy on Katrina, the Right is claiming that NYC wasted their levee monies on fried chicken and watermelon.


Was it at least Popeye's chicken?
 
2012-12-09 01:46:33 PM

Sticky Hands: so it's just like everywhere else.


This country is being crushed under the weight of its own bureucratic bullshiat. It's good to be a Vogon
 
2012-12-09 01:48:02 PM
Hey, we do the intern-banging in DC! Better step off our turf!
 
2012-12-09 01:48:56 PM
Well politicians wont look like heroes if they make preparations to avoid or mitigate a disaster...the american voter only sees them as heroes after the disaster hits when the politicians have the government write people checks....
 
2012-12-09 01:50:00 PM
Yeah but even if they had planned for it 34 years ago, oceans are going to rise 10 centimeters in the next 100 years and there is no way they could be prepared for that.
 
2012-12-09 01:50:24 PM
best government money can buy.
 
2012-12-09 01:53:23 PM
And this won't be brought up, because it's New York City.
 
2012-12-09 01:54:02 PM
So the situation is like all the states and commonwealths, then.

/nothing to see here
//move along citizen
///virgule
 
2012-12-09 01:54:38 PM

Marine1: And this won't be brought up, because it's New York City.


Except it's being brought up since it made the news.

But whatever...
 
2012-12-09 01:54:59 PM
southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com 


// hot like a chapped ass pointing a finger after the fact.
 
2012-12-09 01:55:13 PM
Well it's good to know that Mike Bloomberg poured his efforts into soda, trans-fats, stop-and-frisk, and gun laws in other states. It takes a true leader to lecture people as if they were children instead of preparing for possible catastrophes.
 
2012-12-09 01:56:35 PM
Name a government on the planet that plans for disasters years in advance, subby. Democracy doesn't make a government good; it just keeps out the dictator bug. Humans will always be stupid and human government will always be stupider.

gerbilpox: Hey, we do the intern-banging in DC! Better step off our turf!


It's OK, NY is a blue state so the escorts interns are female. No need for a turf war.
 
2012-12-09 01:56:44 PM
We've had decades of warning that we're on some of the most seismically active land on the continent (Missouri/New Madrid) but we do little to nothing to prepare for it. It's going to absolutely suck for places like St. Louis, Memphis and to a smaller extent, Nashville, Chicago, Indianapolis, and Cincinnati when the next big one hits mainly because we don't take the threat seriously.

To act like this is only an East Coast thing is foolish.
 
2012-12-09 01:57:08 PM

Mrtraveler01: Marine1: And this won't be brought up, because it's New York City.

Except it's being brought up since it made the news.

But whatever...


There's brought up, then there's "making it a constant national discussion to the point where it's a punchline of a joke". I guess I meant the latter.
 
2012-12-09 01:57:58 PM
Heckuva job, Brownie!
 
2012-12-09 01:58:19 PM

Apik0r0s: Let me guess, in an effort to piggyback Sandy on Katrina, the Right is claiming that NYC wasted their levee monies on fried chicken and watermelon.


Yeah, this. Especially considering one of their own (Giuliani) had his part to play in their own messes.
 
2012-12-09 01:58:56 PM

GORDON: Yeah but even if they had planned for it 34 years ago, oceans are going to rise 10 centimeters in the next 100 years and there is no way they could be prepared for that.


You're asking the Right to be logical; don't do that. :)
 
2012-12-09 01:59:04 PM

Mrtraveler01: We've had decades of warning that we're on some of the most seismically active land on the continent (Missouri/New Madrid) but we do little to nothing to prepare for it. It's going to absolutely suck for places like St. Louis, Memphis and to a smaller extent, Nashville, Chicago, Indianapolis, and Cincinnati when the next big one hits mainly because we don't take the threat seriously.

To act like this is only an East Coast thing is foolish.


Generally, areas that are very seismically active don't have "big ones" on a regular basis. Earthquakes are sudden, violent releases of energy, and if that's constantly going on, there's not much energy to be released.

Besides, there are parts of St. Louis that could probably use a good shaking.
 
2012-12-09 01:59:36 PM
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2012-12-09 02:01:39 PM

Marine1: Generally, areas that are very seismically active don't have "big ones" on a regular basis.


Neither do hurricanes in New York/New Jersey, but yet you're still ragging on them.

Marine1: Besides, there are parts of St. Louis that could probably use a good shaking.


There are some parts of St. Louis that are very nice and other parts where you wouldn't be able to tell the difference of what it looked like when an earthquake struck it.

/St. Louisian
 
2012-12-09 02:02:12 PM

GORDON: Yeah but even if they had planned for it 34 years ago, oceans are going to rise 10 centimeters in the next 100 years and there is no way they could be prepared for that.


s0.geograph.org.uk 

www.familyholiday.net

i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2012-12-09 02:02:50 PM

Mrtraveler01: Apik0r0s: Let me guess, in an effort to piggyback Sandy on Katrina, the Right is claiming that NYC wasted their levee monies on fried chicken and watermelon.

Was it at least Popeye's chicken?


Oh great now I'm hungry!!!
 
2012-12-09 02:03:46 PM

mypinkpony: Mrtraveler01: Apik0r0s: Let me guess, in an effort to piggyback Sandy on Katrina, the Right is claiming that NYC wasted their levee monies on fried chicken and watermelon.

Was it at least Popeye's chicken?

Oh great now I'm hungry!!!


Me too.
 
2012-12-09 02:04:21 PM
And watch, even after this Sandy disaster not much will be done. So the next time Lower Manhattan gets flooded again we'll be having this same discussion because few recommendation will be implemented.
 
2012-12-09 02:05:46 PM

Mrtraveler01: Marine1: Generally, areas that are very seismically active don't have "big ones" on a regular basis.

Neither do hurricanes in New York/New Jersey, but yet you're still ragging on them.

Marine1: Besides, there are parts of St. Louis that could probably use a good shaking.

There are some parts of St. Louis that are very nice and other parts where you wouldn't be able to tell the difference of what it looked like when an earthquake struck it.

/St. Louisian


Hurricanes hit the Atlantic Seaboard of the US and Canada pretty often. There's been a lull over the last few years, but storms of all sizes have hit New York City pretty consistently.

The word you're looking for on the "wouldn't be able to tell the difference" area is "downtown".
 
2012-12-09 02:06:12 PM

dragonchild: Name a government on the planet that plans for disasters years in advance, subby.


The Netherlands. Japan. If you think the Sendai/Fukushima situation was bad, compare it to what happened when a similar quake/tsunami hit off Indonesia eight years ago.

Even California, for all its other dysfunctions, has planned well for seismic events.
 
2012-12-09 02:06:48 PM
I really was surprised that the smug force in NY didn't just stop the tornado in its tracks.
 
2012-12-09 02:07:22 PM
Let me guess, the Left will bristle at any suggestion that some groups that tend to vote Democratic might have contributed to the devastation and will instead cherry-pick a few right wing boogeymen?

Apik0r0s: Let me guess, in an effort to piggyback Sandy on Katrina, the Right is claiming that NYC wasted their levee monies on fried chicken and watermelon.


Yep, sounds about right.

You know, it's okay to admit fault among your own constituency groups. Treating your political ideology like your religion is as bad as treating your religion like a political ideology.
 
2012-12-09 02:08:56 PM

Marine1: Mrtraveler01: Marine1: Generally, areas that are very seismically active don't have "big ones" on a regular basis.

Neither do hurricanes in New York/New Jersey, but yet you're still ragging on them.

Marine1: Besides, there are parts of St. Louis that could probably use a good shaking.

There are some parts of St. Louis that are very nice and other parts where you wouldn't be able to tell the difference of what it looked like when an earthquake struck it.

/St. Louisian

Hurricanes hit the Atlantic Seaboard of the US and Canada pretty often. There's been a lull over the last few years, but storms of all sizes have hit New York City pretty consistently.

The word you're looking for on the "wouldn't be able to tell the difference" area is "downtown".


Pfft...you think downtown is bad? You obviously haven't been North of Delmar Blvd. Downtown is tame compared to THAT.
 
2012-12-09 02:09:53 PM

FLMountainMan: Let me guess, the Left will bristle at any suggestion that some groups that tend to vote Democratic might have contributed to the devastation and will instead cherry-pick a few right wing boogeymen?

Apik0r0s: Let me guess, in an effort to piggyback Sandy on Katrina, the Right is claiming that NYC wasted their levee monies on fried chicken and watermelon.

Yep, sounds about right.

You know, it's okay to admit fault among your own constituency groups. Treating your political ideology like your religion is as bad as treating your religion like a political ideology.


Coming from Florida, y'all don't have much to say in this discussion.
 
2012-12-09 02:10:26 PM

dragonchild: Name a government on the planet that plans for disasters years in advance, subby. Democracy doesn't make a government good; it just keeps out the dictator bug. Humans will always be stupid and human government will always be stupider.

gerbilpox: Hey, we do the intern-banging in DC! Better step off our turf!

It's OK, NY is a blue state so the escorts interns are female. No need for a turf war.


Japan.
 
2012-12-09 02:11:12 PM

Rwa2play: Apik0r0s: the Right

one of their own (Giuliani)


i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-09 02:11:14 PM
Perhaps if the GOP-controlled Federal government during 2001-2007 had spent hundreds of billions on protecting this area from Mother Nature instead of from Allah, it might have been better.

But, of course, it's unions.
 
2012-12-09 02:11:18 PM
Or maybe just... maybe..

When something doesn't happen for a generation or two, people tend to forget about the risk.

When the New Madrid fault line clicks again, bribery and graft won't be the reason millions die in Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee and Arkansas. Complacency will be the reason, just as it was in NYC.
 
2012-12-09 02:13:54 PM
History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of man.
 
2012-12-09 02:16:43 PM

cmb53208: Well it's good to know that Mike Bloomberg poured his efforts into soda, trans-fats, stop-and-frisk, and gun laws in other states. It takes a true leader to lecture people as if they were children instead of preparing for possible catastrophes.


At least we can agree that Wisconsin's state politics is squeaky clean and above reproach.
 
2012-12-09 02:17:11 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Rwa2play: Apik0r0s: the Right

one of their own (Giuliani)

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Really? Didya check the campaign or you haven't been on this planet for the last year?
 
2012-12-09 02:21:51 PM

Gulper Eel: The Netherlands. Japan. If you think the Sendai/Fukushima situation was bad, compare it to what happened when a similar quake/tsunami hit off Indonesia eight years ago.

Even California, for all its other dysfunctions, has planned well for seismic events.


These are examples of disasters that happen with some frequency, so it is easy to convince people to set aside money for the next time it happens. Growing up in NYC, I remember exactly one hurricane hitting the city, and the damage was actually pretty minimal from it (I believe partly because it hit at low tide).

The point is, nobody had more than a theoretical reason to take hurricane threat seriously in NY because nobody had experienced the devastation a hurricane can do to the city first hand.

The same argument can apply to why there is no preparedness for a meteor impact.
 
2012-12-09 02:22:11 PM

Rwa2play: Really? Didya check the campaign or you haven't been on this planet for the last year?


Actually you're right so I'll ask, did he change for the campaign? Is he no longer the philandering, divorced, pro-abortion RINO who Pat Buchanan wants excommunicated?
 
2012-12-09 02:22:33 PM
I'd've been a lot more impressed with subby's snark had he posted this six months ago.
 
2012-12-09 02:23:35 PM

EdNortonsTwin: History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of man.


static.nme.com

Some natural disasters are harder to plan for than others. 



///rock on
 
2012-12-09 02:24:19 PM
But New York has done well improving the work of Graffiti artists.

So they have that going for them....which is nice.
 
2012-12-09 02:25:35 PM
"I don't know that anyone believed," acknowledged Gov. Andrew Cuomo this past week. "We had never seen a storm like this. So it is very hard to anticipate something that you have never experienced."

That's why so many people who are shot for the first time are surprised when it turns out to be painful.
 
2012-12-09 02:26:32 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Actually you're right so I'll ask, did he change for the campaign? Is he no longer the philandering, divorced, pro-abortion RINO who Pat Buchanan wants excommunicated?


Too bad Giuliani wasn't more holy, he could have prayed for no future hurricanes like Rick Perry prayed for rain.
 
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