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(NYPost)   WW2 bomber pilot Charlie Brown spared death by German fighter who had him in his crosshairs in 1943. He never knew why, until they met...oh my, subby allergic to dust   (nypost.com) divider line 216
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2012-12-09 09:08:31 AM
Yes, it's getting pretty dusty in here. Damn woodstove. Or maybe it's the cat hair. I'm glad they finally did get in touch with each other.
 
2012-12-09 11:13:22 AM
Cool story, bro. Seriously though.
 
2012-12-09 11:31:35 AM

kimwim: Yes, it's getting pretty dusty in here. Damn woodstove. Or maybe it's the cat hair. I'm glad they finally did get in touch with each other.


Nah, it's summer here in Australia and it's damn dusty too. So sorry pal, not the woodstove.

Awesome link subby.
 
2012-12-09 11:41:41 AM
offsite2.seriousshops.com

CURSE YOU, RED BARON!!
 
2012-12-09 11:54:42 AM
Great story. Glad they both survived to tell.
 
2012-12-09 11:56:37 AM
That's a *really* good article, subby.

Thank you for finding that and submitting it.
 
2012-12-09 12:41:38 PM

ArkAngel: [offsite2.seriousshops.com image 400x283]

CURSE YOU, RED BARON!!


www.fletcherarmstrongblog.com
 
2012-12-09 01:12:22 PM
Did anyone else open TFA, get one look at the German fighter and think, "Holy crap, it's Ben Affleck."

/Here comes the science.
 
2012-12-09 01:13:46 PM
Excellent story but a B-17 is not a fighter subby
 
2012-12-09 01:14:30 PM
The news had come out in the First World War
The bloody Red Baron was flying once more
The Allied command ignored all of its men
And called on Snoopy to do it again.

Was the night before Christmas, 40 below
When Snoopy went up in search of his foe
He spied the Red Baron, fiercely they fought
With ice on his wings Snoopy knew he was caught.

Christmas bells those Christmas bells
Ring out from the land
Asking peace of all the world
And good will to man
 
2012-12-09 01:16:11 PM
Good grief that's an interesting story.
 
2012-12-09 01:16:49 PM
Very old Article, but well worth mentioning time and time again. I have this painting on my wall behind my computer, next to the Red Baron's Portrait and on the other side a copy of the V-day Newspaper.
 
2012-12-09 01:17:27 PM
You ----> cdn.hotstockmarket.com <---- Death (not yours)
 
2012-12-09 01:19:51 PM
www.neatorama.com

ehh what's up doc
 
2012-12-09 01:20:48 PM

ArkAngel: [offsite2.seriousshops.com image 400x283]

CURSE YOU, RED BARON!!


Why didn't the headline play on this? It's such an obvious (and funnier) reference.

[reads TFA]

Gee, I can almost smell the smoke from that burning plane. It's getting in my eyes too.
 
2012-12-09 01:20:49 PM
Bonus: constant references to Red baron in Peanuts and of course the Peanuts song where the Red Baron doesn't shoot down snoopy because it's Christmas. Pilot in real life similar situation named charlie Brown. Coincidence?
 
2012-12-09 01:21:31 PM

Chak: Excellent story but a B-17 is not a fighter subby


Just gonna assume you're not a troll. The B-17 was the bomber Brown was flying, not the fighter Stigler was flying next to him with when he decided not to shoot.
 
2012-12-09 01:22:18 PM
Wow.
 
2012-12-09 01:22:34 PM

Ehcks: Chak: Excellent story but a B-17 is not a fighter subby

Just gonna assume you're not a troll. The B-17 was the bomber Brown was flying, not the fighter Stigler was flying next to him with when he decided not to shoot.


Wait, there's two "fighters" in the headline. I'm blind.
 
2012-12-09 01:24:23 PM
That is a great story. My guess, the Post is scrambling to shore up its image in the wake of publishing that awful "this man is about to die" photo, realizing they still need to be in that market in between the Daily News and the Times.
 
2012-12-09 01:24:44 PM
Nope not trolling, and again good story but the headline says "WW2 fighter pilot Charlie Brown..." and the opening paragraph reads, "On Dec. 20, 1943, a young American bomber pilot named Charlie Brown found
 
2012-12-09 01:24:56 PM
I wonder how many civilians Mr. Brown killed by dropping bombs on them?
 
2012-12-09 01:26:15 PM

Bacontastesgood: That is a great story. My guess, the Post is scrambling to shore up its image in the wake of publishing that awful "this man is about to die" photo, realizing they still need to be in that market in between the Daily News and the Times.


I was going to say, this has been the most worthwhile Post article in probably years.
 
2012-12-09 01:26:37 PM

Bacontastesgood: That is a great story. My guess, the Post is scrambling to shore up its image in the wake of publishing that awful "this man is about to die" photo, realizing they still need to be in that market in between the Daily News and the Times.


I thought that too. But they got this one right.
 
2012-12-09 01:27:06 PM
So he was too honorable to shoot down a bomber when it was vulnerable. Nice job, Stigler, you've just freed that bomber crew to return to battle and kill god knows how many of your countrymen.

It's such an aristocratic way of thinking. Who cares how many of the little people die as result of your actions (or lack thereof). The important thing is that you keep your "honor."

Thank God such chivalry has gone out of fashion. We're a better world for it.
 
2012-12-09 01:27:48 PM
Great read.
 
2012-12-09 01:29:09 PM
Pretty sure I've read about this before, when they died maybe.

I highly recommend the book Unbroken for anyone interested in this stuff. True story about an Olympian and bomber crewman who survived a crash in the ocean and floated for like 60 days or something ridiculous, was captured by the Japanese, etc. Great read.
 
2012-12-09 01:30:44 PM

superdude72: So he was too honorable to shoot down a bomber when it was vulnerable. Nice job, Stigler, you've just freed that bomber crew to return to battle and kill god knows how many of your countrymen.

It's such an aristocratic way of thinking. Who cares how many of the little people die as result of your actions (or lack thereof). The important thing is that you keep your "honor."

Thank God such chivalry has gone out of fashion. We're a better world for it.


Thank God not everyone thinks like you do, you pathetic little worm.
 
2012-12-09 01:30:49 PM

scavenger: I wonder how many civilians Mr. Brown killed by dropping bombs on them?


0.5/10
 
2012-12-09 01:30:58 PM

scavenger: I wonder how many civilians Mr. Brown killed by dropping bombs on them?


0 out of 10 on the troll scale
 
2012-12-09 01:31:53 PM

scavenger: I wonder how many civilians Mr. Brown killed by dropping bombs on them?


Jesus. Great sentimental story about honor and heroism, yet the peace hippy trolls have already arrived posting this crap in the first 2 dozen posts. Why do you asshats even click on links about war?

Must be a new fark record...
 
2012-12-09 01:32:09 PM
Simply amazing ...
 
2012-12-09 01:32:34 PM
blog.maxandmittens.com
 
2012-12-09 01:33:49 PM

superdude72:

Thank God such chivalry has gone out of fashion. We're a better world for it.


Obviously, things would have been much better had the Axis Powers won the War.
 
2012-12-09 01:34:19 PM
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2012-12-09 01:34:29 PM
Really excellent read. There was a story like this (probably many more left untold) about a German UBoot captain and another captain he didn't capture against orders.
 
2012-12-09 01:35:04 PM

scavenger: I wonder how many civilians Mr. Brown killed by dropping bombs on them?


i210.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-09 01:35:19 PM
wow,
 
2012-12-09 01:36:09 PM

Discernibly Turgid: scavenger: I wonder how many civilians Mr. Brown killed by dropping bombs on them?

Jesus. Great sentimental story about honor and heroism, yet the peace hippy trolls have already arrived posting this crap in the first 2 dozen posts. Why do you asshats even click on links about war?

Must be a new fark record...


Hippies came because the headline mentions Charlie Brown and, well, anything Woodstock is good Woodstock.
 
2012-12-09 01:37:40 PM
Well, that article just convinced me to gift the book to my dad. And then read it myself.
 
2012-12-09 01:38:52 PM
Although I'm not entirely against their use, a drone wouldn't make the same decision. Great story.
What I find interesting is how removed people feel from the war. It's as if it's simply a TV show that we all know major plot details to. This isn't ancient history. If you were born in the 50s or 60s, you lived in the consequences and ongoing momentum of WW2 (Hirihito and Hess lived until the late 80s, well Hirihito for sure). The war didn't really end until the 1990s.
 
2012-12-09 01:39:34 PM
He's a clown, that Charlie Brown
 
2012-12-09 01:41:24 PM
If I remember correctly, there's a similar story in "Thunderbolt!" by Robert Johnson. His plane was shot to hell, figured the German pilot was about to finish him off but he disengaged and let him go.
 
2012-12-09 01:41:54 PM
I think the furnace filter needs to be changed again, cat hair must be blowing around into my eyes this morning.

Excellent article. Proud to have been a ground pounder and protected many mighty flying machines and the flyers and their crews.
 
2012-12-09 01:42:35 PM
I met a German Major one time who had some interesting stories to tell.

He fought with full force when he thought the war could be won, but as soon as he knew it was lost, he turned around and saved as many of his men as he could.

He crossed the lines many times, negotiating surrender of hundreds of German troops, saving not only their lives but also those of many Americans.

He was a genuine hero, and if he had been caught he would have faced a terrible, slow execution.

I also met an American citizen who renounced his country and joined the Wehrmacht, one of three men in all history who did so. I do not agree with his politics, but he had an "interesting" slant on life.
 
2012-12-09 01:43:16 PM
Hey scavenger, how many civilians did the Germans kill during the occupation of Western Europe?

farking troll.....
 
2012-12-09 01:43:42 PM
Wow, humanity springs up where you least expect it. Glad that Brown got to finally meet the man who saved him and his crew.
 
2012-12-09 01:46:09 PM
My dad used to shoot down German fighters during ww2. He made a picture frame out of a ME-109 that he shot down in Africa and put my mom's photo in . Still have it.
 
2012-12-09 01:46:45 PM

ElLoco: scavenger: Discernibly Turgid: scavenger: I wonder how many civilians Mr. Brown killed by dropping bombs on them?

Jesus. Great sentimental story about honor and heroism, yet the peace hippy trolls have already arrived posting this crap in the first 2 dozen posts. Why do you asshats even click on links about war?

Must be a new fark record...

Sorry to interrupt your wank session. Carry on...

Sometimes, trying to be cool and edgy has the opposite effect. Yes?

Maybe you'll learn something today, at least... but I doubt it.


I'm neither cool nor edgy, don't worry. I just abhor violence and anything that glorifies war.
 
2012-12-09 01:47:26 PM
Forgoing the possibility of being trolled...

The idea of this code of honor exhibited by the German pilot, that you find hypocritical and needless...

First, in the article, it was discussed by his superior, that to conduct yourself personally with honor and forethought may not "help your side", but it will help your own mental well-being, and preserve your humanity. So consider that he was following orders, albeit esoteric orders, from his commanding officer.

Second, such ridiculous things at the Geneva Convention also offer acts of chivalry and codes of honor/ethics, such as using bullets with full metal jackets, so that more people shot remain casualties and aren't converted to kills.

Perhaps human beings engage in warfare under hypocritical principles, but often those who don't adhere to that chivalry, and place the ends justifying the means as their guiding principle, they are vilified by the rest of us... as per terrorism.
 
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