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(CBS Houston)   Off-duty cop in "fear for his life" fires weapon at suspected Walmart shoplifters speeding away, killing one but luckily missing the two small children in the car. Tag is for not knowing Walmart's new policy regarding shoplifters   (houston.cbslocal.com) divider line 672
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2012-12-09 10:36:48 AM  

Richard Saunders: DON.MAC: ox45tallboy: DON.MAC: You can get killed for stealing a toaster before it gets put on the first container.

But by the second container you're cool, right?

Far less likely to have your family pay for the bullet at least.

If your toaster is in a vehicle speeding away from you in a Walmart parking lot, let it go, man... it's gone. 

/if shoplifters were armed, this wouldn't happen


Great, now we're going to have armed shoplifters. Thanks Obama.
 
2012-12-09 10:36:50 AM  

DON.MAC: CreamFilling: ox45tallboy: Wal-Mart could very well face some liability in a wrongful death suit, especially if it is proven he fired into a vehicle moving away from him.

The vehicle wasn't moving away from him. It was dragging him along with it.

That depends on which story you read.


Reading seldom trumps paradigms.
 
2012-12-09 10:38:16 AM  
Well yes they have a new rule. But the article didn't say anything about a bunch of customers and a wal-mart guard killing the person with a headlock
 
2012-12-09 10:38:17 AM  
This happened in Texas. You are allowed to chase people down and kill them for minor property crimes there, you don't even have to be a cop, you can be a bystander. Probably perfectly legal to kill everyone including the kids in the fleeing vehicle too.
 
2012-12-09 10:38:20 AM  

BravadoGT: It sounds like a good shooting:

The deputy was standing between the car door and driver's seat and, fearing for his life, fired his weapon.



No. He is only claiming a "fear for his life" because the shooting is not justified under these circumstances.
 
2012-12-09 10:38:21 AM  

Godscrack: Via Infinito: thamike: I think you may have left something out, subby.

Yeah, maybe the part about the cop getting dragged as the car sped away.

The cop should have thought of the consequences before holding on, trying to be another Christmas hero.


Gotta question any idiot that attempts to hold a car.
 
2012-12-09 10:38:21 AM  
Could someone point me to where in the "article" it mentions children in the car? I could only find reference to grown women.
 
2012-12-09 10:38:29 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: Great, now we're going to have armed shoplifters. Thanks Obama.


Hey, the armless ones are just as bad, Sir.

wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net
 
2012-12-09 10:39:26 AM  

BravadoGT: One more thing--she was already on probation for shoplifting...from Walmart! As part of her probation, she wasn't even allowed to be in a Walmart...

Here's a pic of the delicate little flower...

[www.digitaljournal.com image 281x371]



By all means then, shoot her dead for petty larceny.
 
2012-12-09 10:40:00 AM  

BravadoGT: One more thing--she was already on probation for shoplifting...from Walmart! As part of her probation, she wasn't even allowed to be in a Walmart...

Here's a pic of the delicate little flower...

[www.digitaljournal.com image 281x371]


So clearly, she deserves death. Right.
 
2012-12-09 10:41:25 AM  
It's too bad that he missed a prime opportunity to remove two more from the shoplifting gene pool...
 
2012-12-09 10:42:11 AM  

Rich Cream: By all means then, shoot her dead for petty larceny.


KellyKellyKelly: So clearly, she deserves death. Right.


The article seems to indicate she was shot because she tried to drive off and drug the guy with her, not because she stole something. Which if that's the case, IS legal grounds for using lethal force.
 
2012-12-09 10:42:23 AM  

BravadoGT: Reading this from Lubbock Online-It sounds like a good shooting:

HOUSTON

Authorities are investigating the fatal shooting of a suspected shoplifter by a sheriff's deputy during a confrontation outside a Houston-area Wal-Mart store.

Officials say Harris County sheriff's Deputy Louis Campbell confronted several female suspects suspected of stealing from the store Thursday evening.

Sheriff's spokesman Thomas Gilliland says Campbell chased one of the suspects after she hit him. The woman then entered a car. Gilliland says that when Campbell opened the car's door, the vehicle accelerated. The deputy was standing between the car door and driver's seat and, fearing for his life, fired his weapon.


image.shutterstock.com
What a person standing between a car door and driver's seat may look like.

I don't think he's in danger unless the car is going backwards.
 
2012-12-09 10:43:25 AM  
TFA does not actually say that the person killed was one of the shoplifters, could have been the getaway driver, or just someone that was not involved and was taking care of the kids in the car. Probably still legal in Texas though.
 
2012-12-09 10:45:23 AM  

ox45tallboy: Shooting at a fleeing car might look great in an action movie, but it makes you look like a total dick unconcerned with public safety when it happens in real life.


FIFY
 
2012-12-09 10:45:28 AM  

Theaetetus: BravadoGT: Reading this from Lubbock Online-It sounds like a good shooting:

HOUSTON

Authorities are investigating the fatal shooting of a suspected shoplifter by a sheriff's deputy during a confrontation outside a Houston-area Wal-Mart store.

Officials say Harris County sheriff's Deputy Louis Campbell confronted several female suspects suspected of stealing from the store Thursday evening.

Sheriff's spokesman Thomas Gilliland says Campbell chased one of the suspects after she hit him. The woman then entered a car. Gilliland says that when Campbell opened the car's door, the vehicle accelerated. The deputy was standing between the car door and driver's seat and, fearing for his life, fired his weapon.

[image.shutterstock.com image 300x470]
What a person standing between a car door and driver's seat may look like.

I don't think he's in danger unless the car is going backwards.


Right, because there's no way once the car starts moving and knocks him balance, he could fall under the rear wheels....
 
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2012-12-09 10:46:57 AM  
damn, that girl skipped the sharpie and went straight for the kiwi shoe polish
 
2012-12-09 10:48:13 AM  

BravadoGT: Theaetetus: BravadoGT: Reading this from Lubbock Online-It sounds like a good shooting:

HOUSTON

Authorities are investigating the fatal shooting of a suspected shoplifter by a sheriff's deputy during a confrontation outside a Houston-area Wal-Mart store.

Officials say Harris County sheriff's Deputy Louis Campbell confronted several female suspects suspected of stealing from the store Thursday evening.

Sheriff's spokesman Thomas Gilliland says Campbell chased one of the suspects after she hit him. The woman then entered a car. Gilliland says that when Campbell opened the car's door, the vehicle accelerated. The deputy was standing between the car door and driver's seat and, fearing for his life, fired his weapon.

[image.shutterstock.com image 300x470]
What a person standing between a car door and driver's seat may look like.

I don't think he's in danger unless the car is going backwards.

Right, because there's no way once the car starts moving and knocks him balance, he could fall under the rear wheels....


Gosh, you're right... I hadn't thought of that. Mind you, that could happen any time anyone is standing near a car, so therefore, we're justified in shooting the driver if we're within 5 feet while they're moving.
 
2012-12-09 10:48:59 AM  
Keep preventing that loss, coppers.
 
2012-12-09 10:49:29 AM  

Theaetetus:
Gosh, you're right... I hadn't thought of that. Mind you, that could happen any time anyone is standing near a car, so therefore, we're justified in shooting the driver if we're within 5 feet while they're moving.


www.c-pol.com
 
2012-12-09 10:51:02 AM  
Subby probably writes for NBC news.
 
2012-12-09 10:51:19 AM  
Here's a pic of the delicate little flower...

Looks like an Anime character
 
2012-12-09 10:51:28 AM  
In the civilized world, this is considered murder.

A human life for a property crime? Maybe in Saudi Arabia.
 
2012-12-09 10:51:46 AM  

BravadoGT: Theaetetus: BravadoGT: Reading this from Lubbock Online-It sounds like a good shooting:

HOUSTON

Authorities are investigating the fatal shooting of a suspected shoplifter by a sheriff's deputy during a confrontation outside a Houston-area Wal-Mart store.

Officials say Harris County sheriff's Deputy Louis Campbell confronted several female suspects suspected of stealing from the store Thursday evening.

Sheriff's spokesman Thomas Gilliland says Campbell chased one of the suspects after she hit him. The woman then entered a car. Gilliland says that when Campbell opened the car's door, the vehicle accelerated. The deputy was standing between the car door and driver's seat and, fearing for his life, fired his weapon.

[image.shutterstock.com image 300x470]
What a person standing between a car door and driver's seat may look like.

I don't think he's in danger unless the car is going backwards.

Right, because there's no way once the car starts moving and knocks him balance, he could fall under the rear wheels....


Think that one through CAREFULLY, and maybe you will understand why everyone is laughing at you. eEstapo cops indeed.
 
2012-12-09 10:51:50 AM  
Loss prevention officials noticed

WTF. Walmart has officials. The article doesn't explain how Walmart was nationalized earlier in the morning to prevent another December 7th style terrorist attack or that the author has shared her christmas meth recipe with the editor again.
 
2012-12-09 10:52:38 AM  

truchaos: "killing one but luckily missing the two small children in the car."


More proof that cops should carry fully automatic weapons.


Just don't lead them so much...
 
2012-12-09 10:53:03 AM  

BravadoGT: One more thing--she was already on probation for shoplifting...from Walmart! As part of her probation, she wasn't even allowed to be in a Walmart...

Here's a pic of the delicate little flower...

[www.digitaljournal.com image 281x371]


So she got what she deserved?
 
2012-12-09 10:53:20 AM  
Nother obamer voter down.
 
2012-12-09 10:54:02 AM  

Theaetetus: BravadoGT: Theaetetus: BravadoGT: Reading this from Lubbock Online-It sounds like a good shooting:

HOUSTON

Authorities are investigating the fatal shooting of a suspected shoplifter by a sheriff's deputy during a confrontation outside a Houston-area Wal-Mart store.

Officials say Harris County sheriff's Deputy Louis Campbell confronted several female suspects suspected of stealing from the store Thursday evening.

Sheriff's spokesman Thomas Gilliland says Campbell chased one of the suspects after she hit him. The woman then entered a car. Gilliland says that when Campbell opened the car's door, the vehicle accelerated. The deputy was standing between the car door and driver's seat and, fearing for his life, fired his weapon.

[image.shutterstock.com image 300x470]
What a person standing between a car door and driver's seat may look like.

I don't think he's in danger unless the car is going backwards.

Right, because there's no way once the car starts moving and knocks him balance, he could fall under the rear wheels....

Gosh, you're right... I hadn't thought of that. Mind you, that could happen any time anyone is standing near a car, so therefore, we're justified in shooting the driver if we're within 5 feet while they're moving.


If you're a police officer in the lawful exercise of your duty and have given the individual a lawful order to stop, and that individual has refused and as a consequence-placed your life in danger. Then yes, you are justified.

I'm not giving you my opinion, I'm just telling you how the law reads (at least in my state, which I would bet is very similar to Texas in this respect).
 
2012-12-09 10:54:17 AM  

filter: In the civilized world, this is considered murder.

A human life for a property crime? Maybe in Saudi Arabia.


Uh, what? The guy didn't shoot her for driving away with property. TFA indicates he shot her because he was being dragged by the vehicle when he tried to stop her from driving off, after she slugged him. If you drag a cop, you're probably going to get shot by him.
 
2012-12-09 10:54:28 AM  

BravadoGT: Right, because there's no way once the car starts moving and knocks him balance, he could fall under the rear wheels....


How would the vehicle make contact with the body? Did it go sideways or something? More likely he didn't let go of the door handle or he threw himself into the car trying to control the situation.
 
2012-12-09 10:54:36 AM  
Dear Subtard:
The headline is totally misleading, I read nothing about children, nor did it gave me the impression that the deputy was acting unlawfully. The man gave several warnings, was assaulted, and even dragged by a car.
 
2012-12-09 10:54:38 AM  

BravadoGT: Here's a pic of the delicate little flower...


Markie the clown to sue for trademark infringement before she's in the ground.
 
2012-12-09 10:54:47 AM  
img831.imageshack.us
 
2012-12-09 10:56:31 AM  

filter: In the civilized world, this is considered murder.

A human life for a property crime? Maybe in Saudi Arabia.


Texas
Civilized world?

Vast riches from oil wealth isn't the only thing Texas had in common with Saudi Arabia.
 
2012-12-09 10:56:44 AM  
I'm still trying to find the dammm kids. WTF?
 
2012-12-09 10:57:34 AM  

Godscrack: [img831.imageshack.us image 600x574]


So this is what we've come to.

Photoshopping the dead?

That's shameful. Anne Frankly, I won't stand for it.

molempire.com
 
2012-12-09 10:58:10 AM  

BravadoGT: If you're a police officer in the lawful exercise of your duty and have given the individual a lawful order to stop, and that individual has refused and as a consequence-placed your life in danger. Then yes, you are justified.



I agree but I don't see where his life was threatened. Maybe if we go with "threat of grave bodily harm" rather than "death" we can find a common ground.

/still, why is the gun even out of the holster at this point? is that standard practice now to draw your weapon at the initiation of procedure or at the first sign of disobedience? seems a little cowardly
 
2012-12-09 10:58:27 AM  

BlackMtnMan: I'm still trying to find the dammm kids. WTF?


*GASP*

WHERE'S CARL?! WHERE IS CARL?!

cdn.motinetwork.net
 
2012-12-09 10:58:38 AM  

Rich Cream: BravadoGT: Right, because there's no way once the car starts moving and knocks him balance, he could fall under the rear wheels....

How would the vehicle make contact with the body? Did it go sideways or something? More likely he didn't let go of the door handle or he threw himself into the car trying to control the situation.


Go try it yourself. Have your buddy back out of a parking spot with his door open while you stand next to him. Then come back here and try again.
 
2012-12-09 10:59:35 AM  
It's jus' po' folk dieing for stealing $2 worth of Walmart shiat. Nuttin' to see here.
 
2012-12-09 11:00:11 AM  
Step 1 - Place yourself in danger
Step 2 - Claim you feared for your life
Step 3 - Shoot a minority in the face and live the dream of every cop an 2Aer.
 
2012-12-09 11:01:22 AM  

Theaetetus: BravadoGT: Reading this from Lubbock Online-It sounds like a good shooting:

HOUSTON

Authorities are investigating the fatal shooting of a suspected shoplifter by a sheriff's deputy during a confrontation outside a Houston-area Wal-Mart store.

Officials say Harris County sheriff's Deputy Louis Campbell confronted several female suspects suspected of stealing from the store Thursday evening.

Sheriff's spokesman Thomas Gilliland says Campbell chased one of the suspects after she hit him. The woman then entered a car. Gilliland says that when Campbell opened the car's door, the vehicle accelerated. The deputy was standing between the car door and driver's seat and, fearing for his life, fired his weapon.

[image.shutterstock.com image 300x470]
What a person standing between a car door and driver's seat may look like.

I don't think he's in danger unless the car is going backwards.




It helps when you actually RTFA.
 
2012-12-09 11:02:01 AM  

BronyMedic: TFA indicates he shot her because he was being dragged by the vehicle when he tried to stop her from driving off, after she slugged him.


She hit him with a purse.
 
2012-12-09 11:02:28 AM  

Apik0r0s: Step 1 - Place yourself in danger
Step 2 - Claim you feared for your life
Step 3 - Shoot a minority in the face and live the dream of every cop an 2Aer.


Pretty much, particularly when "standing next to a moving car" counts as "in danger" since you could "slip and fall under the rear wheels".

/"stepping backwards" may be more efficient than shooting someone in the head
 
2012-12-09 11:02:46 AM  

Cuchulane: Am I missing the mention in the article of the two small children?


Same here.
 
2012-12-09 11:03:04 AM  

jmr61: Theaetetus: BravadoGT: Reading this from Lubbock Online-It sounds like a good shooting:

HOUSTON

Authorities are investigating the fatal shooting of a suspected shoplifter by a sheriff's deputy during a confrontation outside a Houston-area Wal-Mart store.

Officials say Harris County sheriff's Deputy Louis Campbell confronted several female suspects suspected of stealing from the store Thursday evening.

Sheriff's spokesman Thomas Gilliland says Campbell chased one of the suspects after she hit him. The woman then entered a car. Gilliland says that when Campbell opened the car's door, the vehicle accelerated. The deputy was standing between the car door and driver's seat and, fearing for his life, fired his weapon.

[image.shutterstock.com image 300x470]
What a person standing between a car door and driver's seat may look like.

I don't think he's in danger unless the car is going backwards.



It helps when you actually RTFA.


What reading the article may look like.
 
2012-12-09 11:03:34 AM  

umad: Go try it yourself. Have your buddy back out of a parking spot with his door open while you stand next to him. Then come back here and try again.


Backing out? Since when?

Additional reports stated that the deputy then opened the door and commanded the driver to stop. Instead of stopping the car, the woman put it in drive, revving forward and dragging the deputy. It was then that the deputy fired his weapon as the vehicle sped away.


So he didn't fire until she was driving away and apparently not within arm's reach.

If he got dragged by the car it was because he grabbed it and hung onto it. Unless you want to say his wedding ring or belt loop got hung up on something?
 
2012-12-09 11:04:11 AM  

fusillade762: Off-duty cops hired by WalMart wear "the badge"?


Wal-Mart IS our Govt, may as well drop the pretense.
 
2012-12-09 11:04:49 AM  
If that shoplifter had stolen a gun, she might be alive today.
 
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