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2012-12-08 03:25:21 PM  
The guy is an idiot. Anyone who drives drunk is, no matter their profession.
 
2012-12-08 03:26:21 PM  
Better article http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20121208-dal las-cowboy-dies-in-irving-car-crash-teammate-arrested-on-manslaughter- charges.ece

Guy was one of his teammates, "Jerry Brown, 25, is the person who died. Brown is listed as a linebacker on the team."
 
2012-12-08 03:26:26 PM  
This has just been a real bad week for football teams and deaths.


Real REAL bad week for their victims.
 
2012-12-08 03:26:49 PM  
Not really a surprise. It always amazes me how guys with that much money fail to call a cab or at least have a ride set up. It's pretty sad.
 
2012-12-08 03:27:33 PM  
Is Bob Costas now going to tell us how we need car control and that young men in the NFL should not have access to cars?
 
2012-12-08 03:28:28 PM  
jesus.

So is Bob Costas going to call for Prohibition?
 
2012-12-08 03:28:49 PM  
This sucks. What a terrible situation.
 
2012-12-08 03:33:24 PM  

rickythepenguin: jesus.

So is Bob Costas going to call for Prohibition?


Hey, remember when Bob Costas called for gun control, yea, neither do I. Words have meanings and a change of culture is not the same as instituting new laws.
 
2012-12-08 03:33:55 PM  

p the boiler: The guy is an idiot. Anyone who drives drunk is, no matter their profession.


Amen to that.
 
2012-12-08 03:36:43 PM  
Yikes.
 
2012-12-08 03:37:13 PM  

SirGeorgeBurkelwitzIII: Not really a surprise. It always amazes me how guys with that much money fail to call a cab or at least have a ride set up. It's pretty sad.


All NFL players even have access to free car service at anytime and these idiots still don't use it.
 
2012-12-08 03:37:17 PM  
On the plus side a couple of roster spots just opened up. Unfortunately Jerry Jones will be filling them so there will still be no improvement. Be warned NFC East- the higher the arrest rate of them Cowboys the better they play- just ask Michael Irvin.

/go Giants
 
2012-12-08 03:38:22 PM  

SirGeorgeBurkelwitzIII: Not really a surprise. It always amazes me how guys with that much money fail to call a cab or at least have a ride set up. It's pretty sad.


Yep. Compared to what he's going to have to pay just for bail, that 50 bucks for cab fare seems downright cheap.
 
2012-12-08 03:38:38 PM  

dlp211: remember when Bob Costas called for gun control


wasn't bob quoting from a jason whitlock article? he said he agreed with whitlock.
 
2012-12-08 03:38:42 PM  
Whos dumber.. the guy who drinks and drives or the friend that lets him AND gets into the same car.

Both of them were idiots and dont even TRY to claim this was a tragedy.
 
2012-12-08 03:38:43 PM  
So, how many games will Goodell suspend him?

/the dead player, I mean
 
2012-12-08 03:40:27 PM  

dlp211: rickythepenguin: jesus.

So is Bob Costas going to call for Prohibition?

Hey, remember when Bob Costas called for gun control, yea, neither do I. Words have meanings and a change of culture is not the same as instituting new laws.


Right. Just about everything I have wanted to say has been said already. Drunk driving is culturally acceptable in this country across any demographic background. I think that most of us here think that this was thoughtless and needless, but it's also ingrained in our culture. Campaigns against it and stiffer penalties might put small dents in the problem, but the best resolution is example setting and parenting in the formative years. Rest assured, people are gonna fark up sometimes whether or not they had the best parents ever, but that's where it all starts.
 
2012-12-08 03:41:29 PM  
phillyburbs.csnphilly.com
RIP Jerome Brown.
 
2012-12-08 03:43:23 PM  

marius2: Better article http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20121208-dal las-cowboy-dies-in-irving-car-crash-teammate-arrested-on-manslaughter- charges.ece

Guy was one of his teammates, "Jerry Brown, 25, is the person who died. Brown is listed as a linebacker on the team."


Chiefs-Browns-Cowboys.

The trifecta is now complete. :-(
 
2012-12-08 03:44:10 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: So, how many games will Goodell suspend him?

/the dead player, I mean


I'm sure Jerry Jones is already putting the bribe together to keep Brent on the field for Sunday.
 
2012-12-08 03:45:12 PM  
WHY ISN'T THE NFL NETWORK CUTTING INTO THEIR PROGRAMMING AND FOCUSING ON THIS ISSUE?!?! WE COULD BE DEBATING IT AND LEARNING STUFFS!!!!
 
2012-12-08 03:45:14 PM  

TheOther: This has just been a real bad week for football teams and deaths.


Real REAL bad week for their victims linebackers.

 
2012-12-08 03:46:33 PM  
So are there going to be hundreds of posts of tragedy-addicts arguing for the Cowboys to postpone or forfeit?
 
2012-12-08 03:48:14 PM  
Are there going to be a rash of people calling for the postponement of the game again this week?
 
2012-12-08 03:48:18 PM  

Captain Steroid: marius2: Better article http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20121208-dal las-cowboy-dies-in-irving-car-crash-teammate-arrested-on-manslaughter- charges.ece

Guy was one of his teammates, "Jerry Brown, 25, is the person who died. Brown is listed as a linebacker on the team."

Chiefs-Browns-Cowboys.

The trifecta is now complete. :-(


I missed the Browns one... What happened?
 
2012-12-08 03:48:41 PM  
Memo to Professional Athletes:

Hire a goddamn driver and some goddamn bodyguards

/WTF do you need to drive drunk?
//WTF do you need to get into fights?
///seriously, these two points should be the whole first day of orientation
 
2012-12-08 03:49:44 PM  
Cripes. What a couple of weeks.
 
2012-12-08 03:50:12 PM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: dlp211: remember when Bob Costas called for gun control

wasn't bob quoting from a jason whitlock article? he said he agreed with whitlock.


Stone him.
 
2012-12-08 03:50:37 PM  

lordjupiter: So are there going to be hundreds of posts of tragedy-addicts arguing for the Cowboys to postpone or forfeit?


And we'll need a moment of silence for drunk drivers and their passengers
 
2012-12-08 03:50:51 PM  

p the boiler: I missed the Browns one... What happened?


I don't remember all the details, but I think a groundskeeper committed suicide in one of the buildings or something. :(
 
2012-12-08 03:51:00 PM  

dlp211: rickythepenguin: jesus.

So is Bob Costas going to call for Prohibition?

Hey, remember when Bob Costas called for gun control, yea, neither do I. Words have meanings and a change of culture is not the same as instituting new laws.


That car culture, taking young men and women from us at more than twice the rate of guns. We need to recognize that vehicles do not need to be 4,000 pounds or have 400 horsepower, and that dubs actually make cars more dangerous. Put one in the hands of a drunk and mayhem ensues. One thing is certain, Brown would be alive today if Brent hadn't had access to a car.

Yeah, it does sound pretty stupid, doesn't it? But hey, at least it wasn't a gun that killed him, because while he would be just as dead one is much worse than the other.
 
2012-12-08 03:51:39 PM  
I read somewhere else Brown was supposed to become a father very soon.
 
2012-12-08 03:52:04 PM  

lordjupiter: So are there going to be hundreds of posts of tragedy-addicts arguing for the Cowboys to postpone or forfeit?


srhp29: Are there going to be a rash of people calling for the postponement of the game again this week?


Are there going to be hundreds of people biatching about the hundreds of people who call for the postponement of a game?
 
2012-12-08 03:52:28 PM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: dlp211: remember when Bob Costas called for gun control

wasn't bob quoting from a jason whitlock article? he said he agreed with whitlock.


Yes, he was quoting Whitlock.
 
2012-12-08 03:52:33 PM  
So is Costas going to...oh, too late.
So are people going to ask for the game to be postpo....oh, too late.
......
Romo fail!

FIRST!
 
2012-12-08 03:53:03 PM  

becksellent: p the boiler: I missed the Browns one... What happened?

I don't remember all the details, but I think a groundskeeper committed suicide in one of the buildings or something. :(


Hung himself, I believe.
 
2012-12-08 03:53:36 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: lordjupiter: So are there going to be hundreds of posts of tragedy-addicts arguing for the Cowboys to postpone or forfeit?

And we'll need a moment of silence for drunk drivers and their passengers


Does Leonard Little still play? Because if he's on the opposing team...that could be awkward.
 
2012-12-08 03:53:51 PM  

poisonedpawn78: Whos dumber.. the guy who drinks and drives or the friend that lets him AND gets into the same car.

Both of them were idiots and dont even TRY to claim this was a tragedy.


They were college teammates, and the dead guy apparently was about to become a father.

A guy is gonna have to go through life knowing he killed his best friend, and made his best friend's child grow up without a father. I'd say that this whole situation is pretty tragic.
 
2012-12-08 03:54:07 PM  

becksellent: p the boiler: I missed the Browns one... What happened?

I don't remember all the details, but I think a groundskeeper committed suicide in one of the buildings or something. :(


But he wasn't very strong or fast and he didn't take anybody with him on his way out, so who cares about that one?
 
2012-12-08 03:55:05 PM  

you are a puppet: HaywoodJablonski: lordjupiter: So are there going to be hundreds of posts of tragedy-addicts arguing for the Cowboys to postpone or forfeit?

And we'll need a moment of silence for drunk drivers and their passengers

Does Leonard Little still play? Because if he's on the opposing team...that could be awkward.


No, Little retired in '09 I think.

Donte Stallworth is still in the NFL though.
 
2012-12-08 03:56:02 PM  

Ed_Severson: becksellent: p the boiler: I missed the Browns one... What happened?

I don't remember all the details, but I think a groundskeeper committed suicide in one of the buildings or something. :(

But he wasn't very strong or fast and he didn't take anybody with him on his way out, so who cares about that one?


I thought you were gonna go all "but he was associated with the Browns, so..."

/kinda glad you didn't
//good point though, unfortunately :(
 
2012-12-08 03:56:56 PM  

NEDM: They were college teammates, and the dead guy apparently was about to become a father.


If only he could have somehow avoided getting into the car with a drunk driver.
 
2012-12-08 03:57:39 PM  

SilentStrider: you are a puppet: HaywoodJablonski: lordjupiter: So are there going to be hundreds of posts of tragedy-addicts arguing for the Cowboys to postpone or forfeit?

And we'll need a moment of silence for drunk drivers and their passengers

Does Leonard Little still play? Because if he's on the opposing team...that could be awkward.

No, Little retired in '09 I think.

Donte Stallworth is still in the NFL though.


I don't fully know the details in the Stallworth thing, but having seen people jaywalk in the dark and almost hit them soberly, I don't know that alcohol made a huge difference in that case.
 
2012-12-08 03:57:45 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: dlp211: rickythepenguin: jesus.

So is Bob Costas going to call for Prohibition?

Hey, remember when Bob Costas called for gun control, yea, neither do I. Words have meanings and a change of culture is not the same as instituting new laws.

Right. Just about everything I have wanted to say has been said already. Drunk driving is culturally acceptable in this country across any demographic background. I think that most of us here think that this was thoughtless and needless, but it's also ingrained in our culture. Campaigns against it and stiffer penalties might put small dents in the problem, but the best resolution is example setting and parenting in the formative years. Rest assured, people are gonna fark up sometimes whether or not they had the best parents ever, but that's where it all starts.


Nobody condones drunk driving. We just realize there is a difference between going out and having a beer or 2 and driving drunk
 
2012-12-08 03:57:58 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: lordjupiter: So are there going to be hundreds of posts of tragedy-addicts arguing for the Cowboys to postpone or forfeit?

srhp29: Are there going to be a rash of people calling for the postponement of the game again this week?

Are there going to be hundreds of people biatching about the hundreds of people who call for the postponement of a game?



I hope so. We need that.
 
2012-12-08 03:59:10 PM  

you are a puppet: I don't fully know the details in the Stallworth thing, but having seen people jaywalk in the dark and almost hit them soberly, I don't know that alcohol made a huge difference in that case.


You know Stallworth saw the guy and flashed his lights at him, right?

That said, I think Stallworth's situation had nothing to do with alcohol. He probably didn't even realize he would be over the limit since he had been sleeping for three or four hours prior to driving.
 
2012-12-08 03:59:12 PM  

srhp29: NEDM: They were college teammates, and the dead guy apparently was about to become a father.

If only he could have somehow avoided getting into the car with a drunk driver.


I'm not saying that it wasn't stupid, just that it was tragic. If you don't have any sympathy for the dead, at least have some empathy for the ones they leave behind.
 
2012-12-08 04:00:37 PM  

p the boiler: The guy is an idiot. Anyone who drives drunk is, no matter their profession.


The odds against dying in a car wreck while driving drunk are only about 1,000,000 to 1. So driving drunk is no more idiotic than dozens of other things we do every day.
 
2012-12-08 04:01:39 PM  

lordjupiter: So are there going to be hundreds of posts of tragedy-addicts arguing for the Cowboys to postpone or forfeit?


srhp29: Are there going to be a rash of people calling for the postponement of the game again this week?


Yeah - like this is even the same thing as your employee blowing his brains out in front of you and then having to go to work a few hours later, lead a team and hold a press conference. Totally the same thing.
 
2012-12-08 04:02:36 PM  

Triumph: lordjupiter: So are there going to be hundreds of posts of tragedy-addicts arguing for the Cowboys to postpone or forfeit?

srhp29: Are there going to be a rash of people calling for the postponement of the game again this week?

Yeah - like this is even the same thing as your employee blowing his brains out in front of you and then having to go to work a few hours later, lead a team and hold a press conference. Totally the same thing.


Yet somehow the Chiefs managed to win their second game of the year.
 
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