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2012-12-08 06:17:12 PM  
If you read other reports on the matter, and not just the Sun's version, you'll see that she doesn't come across as quite so daft. For example, she is fine with him receiving chemotherapy. The issue seems to be whether he needs radio therapy as well. Despite the certainty with which so many farkers view the case, the judge has not ruled yet, saying that the medical picture is changing.
 
2012-12-08 06:17:39 PM  

loveblondieo: Since what I was going to say has already been covered, I'll just say:

1. She looks a bit like Chloe Sevigny.
2. Neon? Really?


ANd like Chloe, she's probably been in movies where she's given oral.
 
2012-12-08 06:19:07 PM  
"if I do chemotherapy, it could damage you."
"And if you don't, it's gonna kill me. Now, a headache I can get over. I'm not sure I'm gonna get over being dead anytime soon."
 
2012-12-08 06:20:04 PM  

Mister Peejay: dickfreckle: You're "not bonkers," yet you named your son "Neon?"

Hey now, that's a fine name. Noble, even.


Ouch. That one hurt. My chemist wife is going to get a kick out of it tonight, though.
 
2012-12-08 06:20:17 PM  

anfrind: "if I do chemotherapy, it could damage you."
"And if you don't, it's gonna kill me. Now, a headache I can get over. I'm not sure I'm gonna get over being dead anytime soon."


If 12/21/12 is the zombie apocalypse, then maybe.
 
2012-12-08 06:21:53 PM  
But I am Bonkers.
 
2012-12-08 06:22:23 PM  
The Old Lady is a RN, she sadly as a lot of stories like this one, one I remember is this woman that came in for some reason and they found she had early stage (think she called it stage 1A or something) cervical cancer, the woman was told that with treatment she had a 90+% chance of survival, instead of coming in for treatment she opted for "natural remedies" herbal teas, infusion therapy (whatever the fark that is) etc, when that didn't work she flew to Mexico for some kind of cancer "boot camp", when that still didn't cure her she finally came in only to find that the cancer had spread and now her chances were less than 10%, so of course she is now blaming the hospital because they didn't clearly tell her that ignoring their advice for 4 years might endanger her chances of survival....
 
2012-12-08 06:25:33 PM  
neon...not the brightest of choices...lets try PLASMA!!!!
 
2012-12-08 06:26:23 PM  
How about you stop the ship from sinking and then worry about how clean the decks are?!? Silly twit.
 
2012-12-08 06:28:38 PM  

anfrind: "if I do chemotherapy, it could damage you."
"And if you don't, it's gonna kill me. Now, a headache I can get over. I'm not sure I'm gonna get over being dead anytime soon."


Mr. Garibaldi sees what you did there.
 
HBK
2012-12-08 06:29:20 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com

Well, just look at it did to this guy!
 
2012-12-08 06:29:40 PM  

Pribar: infusion therapy (whatever the fark that is)


Herbal tea douches, basically.
 
2012-12-08 06:32:17 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Props to the doc who likened radiotherapy to "frying the brain."


I'm sure that's exactly what he said. "We need to fry his brain, so if you'll sign here... Yes, 'fry the brain..." No, that is the technical terminology... Look, do you want us to fry his brain or not?"
 
2012-12-08 06:34:07 PM  

MooseUpNorth: Pribar: infusion therapy (whatever the fark that is)

Herbal tea douches, basically.


So her corpse will be clean and fresh with just a hint of mint at least huh?
 
2012-12-08 06:34:10 PM  

Pribar: The Old Lady is a RN, she sadly as a lot of stories like this one, one I remember is this woman that came in for some reason and they found she had early stage (think she called it stage 1A or something) cervical cancer, the woman was told that with treatment she had a 90+% chance of survival, instead of coming in for treatment she opted for "natural remedies" herbal teas, infusion therapy (whatever the fark that is) etc, when that didn't work she flew to Mexico for some kind of cancer "boot camp", when that still didn't cure her she finally came in only to find that the cancer had spread and now her chances were less than 10%, so of course she is now blaming the hospital because they didn't clearly tell her that ignoring their advice for 4 years might endanger her chances of survival....


Reminds me of - now stay with me for a bit - my brother's ex-fiance's mother. She had breast cancer and had it removed via surgery (which is standard for lower stage breast cancers). At the same time, she started the macrobiotics diet, a fad diet that purports to cure cancer. It doesn't, but that's what the founder wants you to believe (and curiously, the founder and his daughter both died of cancer, even though they were both on this diet). For years (every since I met her about 5-6 years ago, and probably for longer than that) she swore up and down that it was the diet that cured her of cancer, and those "western medicine death mongers" had nothing to do with it.
 
2012-12-08 06:34:26 PM  

jaytkay: I bet that kid's not vaccinated, either


Look at how healthy he is!
 
2012-12-08 06:38:45 PM  
i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-08 06:39:27 PM  

Pribar: MooseUpNorth: Pribar: infusion therapy (whatever the fark that is)

Herbal tea douches, basically.

So her corpse will be clean and fresh with just a hint of mint at least huh?


Yeah. You know, SCAM practitioners piss me off so much since my normally pragmatic father's been taken in with the bullshiat, I can't even joke about it right now.
 
2012-12-08 06:41:34 PM  

MooseUpNorth: Pribar: MooseUpNorth: Pribar: infusion therapy (whatever the fark that is)

Herbal tea douches, basically.

So her corpse will be clean and fresh with just a hint of mint at least huh?

Yeah. You know, SCAM practitioners piss me off so much since my normally pragmatic father's been taken in with the bullshiat, I can't even joke about it right now.


In that case, you might enjoy this:

Link (Takes a minute to load. Sorry)
 
2012-12-08 06:41:46 PM  

Mister Peejay: dickfreckle: You're "not bonkers," yet you named your son "Neon?"

Hey now, that's a fine name. Noble, even.

lolthulhu.com
 
2012-12-08 06:43:01 PM  
Without treatment, the boy is more sure to die, and will do it sooner. This will help Mum put it all behind her much quicker, and most importanly, avoid all that cancer-stricken teen angst she's sure to get thrown at her if he lives into adolescence.
 
2012-12-08 06:43:24 PM  

mgshamster: In that case, you might enjoy this:


*gets out the chainsaw*
 
2012-12-08 06:44:41 PM  

slimfast: [i49.tinypic.com image 400x300]


Took long enough
 
2012-12-08 06:45:44 PM  

breakfast_in_bedlam: ToxicMunkee: I had gamma knife radiation on my brain tumor and it didn't fry anything but the tumor. So that was nice.

[moegolf.files.wordpress.com image 850x518]

"So iv'e got that going for me, which is nice"

/first thing that popped in my head


Don't make him angry. You wouldn't like him when he's angry.
 
2012-12-08 06:47:14 PM  

mgshamster: Pribar: The Old Lady is a RN, she sadly as a lot of stories like this one, one I remember is this woman that came in for some reason and they found she had early stage (think she called it stage 1A or something) cervical cancer, the woman was told that with treatment she had a 90+% chance of survival, instead of coming in for treatment she opted for "natural remedies" herbal teas, infusion therapy (whatever the fark that is) etc, when that didn't work she flew to Mexico for some kind of cancer "boot camp", when that still didn't cure her she finally came in only to find that the cancer had spread and now her chances were less than 10%, so of course she is now blaming the hospital because they didn't clearly tell her that ignoring their advice for 4 years might endanger her chances of survival....

Reminds me of - now stay with me for a bit - my brother's ex-fiance's mother. She had breast cancer and had it removed via surgery (which is standard for lower stage breast cancers). At the same time, she started the macrobiotics diet, a fad diet that purports to cure cancer. It doesn't, but that's what the founder wants you to believe (and curiously, the founder and his daughter both died of cancer, even though they were both on this diet). For years (every since I met her about 5-6 years ago, and probably for longer than that) she swore up and down that it was the diet that cured her of cancer, and those "western medicine death mongers" had nothing to do with it.


a macrobiotic diet simply enjoins one to eat bland, nutrious food from as local a source as possible and maintain a balanced diet and good digestive habits. there's nothing "fad" about it. it certainly won't cure cancer but statistically, it can lower your exposure and therefore your risk, to carcinogens.
 
2012-12-08 06:50:38 PM  

namatad: SilentStrider: Yeah ok, I'll give you cute.

She's got the crazy eyes though.

and is a complete and total moron. They basically need the courts to appoint a guardian ad litem. Problem solved.


You know, every time I get to the point where I'm thinking, "You know, the government really shouldn't be allowed to take away someone's kid" an article like this comes up and proves me wrong. She'd rather choose herbal tea and magnetic field therapy for her son over a potentially life-saving treatment. Where are the storm troopers when you need them.

The sad thing is, it takes years and a fortune to adopt a child, but any loony moron who can figure out how to get a dick in her vagina can have a kid hassle-free.
 
2012-12-08 06:51:55 PM  

dickfreckle: You're "not bonkers," yet you named your son "Neon?"


She's clearly planning on him being a baseball and football superstar.

www.biography.com
 
2012-12-08 06:52:42 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Props to the doc who likened radiotherapy to "frying the brain."


$10 says that 'doctor' does not have an M.D. degree.
 
HBK
2012-12-08 06:54:07 PM  

stiletto_the_wise: The sad thing is, it takes years and a fortune to adopt a child, but any loony moron who can figure out how to get a dick in her vagina can have a kid hassle-free.


If there are any women who are having trouble figuring this out, I can help.

/no fatties
 
2012-12-08 06:54:28 PM  

gweilo8888: cretinbob: He's English, how much lower can his IQ go?

American.


Californian
 
2012-12-08 06:54:29 PM  

mgshamster: At the same time, she started the macrobiotics diet, a fad diet that purports to cure cancer.


I've honestly never heard macrobiotic dieting framed in that regard. Just thought it was a high-brow way of saying "I eat simple, local, organic foods".
 
2012-12-08 06:55:23 PM  
Who knew they had chavs in Devon?
 
2012-12-08 06:56:50 PM  
" But a lawyer representing health authorities told the court the alternative to radiotherapy is "death".

Death is ALWAYS the inevitable homecoming. Suck it up.

Once you get to a certain point of STUPID, does it really matter anymore?
 
2012-12-08 06:56:55 PM  

willfullyobscure: mgshamster: Pribar: The Old Lady is a RN, she sadly as a lot of stories like this one, one I remember is this woman that came in for some reason and they found she had early stage (think she called it stage 1A or something) cervical cancer, the woman was told that with treatment she had a 90+% chance of survival, instead of coming in for treatment she opted for "natural remedies" herbal teas, infusion therapy (whatever the fark that is) etc, when that didn't work she flew to Mexico for some kind of cancer "boot camp", when that still didn't cure her she finally came in only to find that the cancer had spread and now her chances were less than 10%, so of course she is now blaming the hospital because they didn't clearly tell her that ignoring their advice for 4 years might endanger her chances of survival....

Reminds me of - now stay with me for a bit - my brother's ex-fiance's mother. She had breast cancer and had it removed via surgery (which is standard for lower stage breast cancers). At the same time, she started the macrobiotics diet, a fad diet that purports to cure cancer. It doesn't, but that's what the founder wants you to believe (and curiously, the founder and his daughter both died of cancer, even though they were both on this diet). For years (every since I met her about 5-6 years ago, and probably for longer than that) she swore up and down that it was the diet that cured her of cancer, and those "western medicine death mongers" had nothing to do with it.

a macrobiotic diet simply enjoins one to eat bland, nutrious food from as local a source as possible and maintain a balanced diet and good digestive habits. there's nothing "fad" about it. it certainly won't cure cancer but statistically, it can lower your exposure and therefore your risk, to carcinogens.


As a toxicologist, I strongly contest that it will lower anyone's exposure to carcinogens. They'll just get their carcinogens from a different source.

/You're right about the "fad" part; I used the wrong word.
//Additionally, the diet, when strictly followed, will lead one to malnutrition.
 
2012-12-08 06:58:55 PM  
Let her have her way. It will take her genes out of the pool.
 
2012-12-08 07:02:23 PM  
Why does cute have a well established stupid bias?
 
2012-12-08 07:02:26 PM  

orbister: If you read other reports on the matter, and not just the Sun's version, you'll see that she doesn't come across as quite so daft. For example, she is fine with him receiving chemotherapy. The issue seems to be whether he needs radio therapy as well. Despite the certainty with which so many farkers view the case, the judge has not ruled yet, saying that the medical picture is changing.


The Guardian also has the story

Chemo alone has a much lower survival rate than radio and chemo.

She was gone online and is now an expert on cancer while those Doctors who have cured hundreds of people are going to put her son through treatment he doesn't need.

/Too much crazy
//Give the kid to his farther, he wants the best for his son.
 
2012-12-08 07:04:09 PM  

Mister Peejay: dickfreckle: You're "not bonkers," yet you named your son "Neon?"

Hey now, that's a fine name. Noble, even.


images2.wikia.nocookie.net

/took me a second to get the joke, 'cos I'm a little slow you see
 
2012-12-08 07:04:26 PM  
Before the hearing, Ms Roberts - separated from Neon's dad - told how a doctor described radiotherapy to her as "frying the brain". She said: "I fear they are going to fry my son's brain when there are other ways to proceed."

Yes, there are other ways to proceed. Like having your son lose his mind while dying a horrible, painful death. The kid's dad may be a bum, but he might just be the kid's best chance for survival
 
2012-12-08 07:04:39 PM  

Killer Cars: mgshamster: At the same time, she started the macrobiotics diet, a fad diet that purports to cure cancer.

I've honestly never heard macrobiotic dieting framed in that regard. Just thought it was a high-brow way of saying "I eat simple, local, organic foods".


The Cancer Prevention Diet: Michio Kushi's Macrobiotic Blueprint for the Prevention and Relief of Disease

Note that Kushi is the inventor of the macrobiotic diet.
 
2012-12-08 07:09:24 PM  

NotoriousW.O.P: I'd settle for a diminished IQ if it meant spending more time above ground. Call me crazy...


It's easier to pretend the natural treatment will work than accept that there's no good answer.

AbbeySomeone: I've seen people go through the chemo and radiation. They still died, just slowly and in more pain. Prolonging a life of agony is never nice and there is no guarantee that this will cure him.


To choose quality of life over quantity is sometimes the right choice. That's not what she's doing, though.
 
2012-12-08 07:10:09 PM  

KrispyKritter: [www.theautolog.com image 400x600]


Is there a car in that photo? I'm not completely sure...


/yowza!
 
2012-12-08 07:13:49 PM  

KrispyKritter: [www.theautolog.com image 400x600]


No idea what that has to do with the article, but I approve.
 
2012-12-08 07:14:41 PM  

AbbeySomeone: They still died, just slowly and in more pain.


She isn't arguing that radiation will not work and increase suffering, she's arguing some made-up "fact" about reduced mental capacity. That's crazy, no matter what his odds are of recovering after additional treatment.

/ Also, everyone still dies; all medical treatment is simply prolonging the inevitable
 
2012-12-08 07:15:53 PM  

mgshamster: The Cancer Prevention Diet: Michio Kushi's Macrobiotic Blueprint for the Prevention and Relief of Disease

Note that Kushi is the inventor of the macrobiotic diet.


Interesting. I don't "diet" necessarily (although I to try to eat as healthy as I can), so I normally only hear of these things in the form of second-hand, watered-down descriptions from coworkers and such.
 
2012-12-08 07:16:04 PM  

Begoggle: KrispyKritter: [www.theautolog.com image 400x600]

No idea what that has to do with the article, but I approve.


The car is a Neon.
 
2012-12-08 07:18:50 PM  

Killer Cars: mgshamster: The Cancer Prevention Diet: Michio Kushi's Macrobiotic Blueprint for the Prevention and Relief of Disease

Note that Kushi is the inventor of the macrobiotic diet.

Interesting. I don't "diet" necessarily (although I to try to eat as healthy as I can), so I normally only hear of these things in the form of second-hand, watered-down descriptions from coworkers and such.


Eating healthy is good; just have to make sure we stay within the realm of reality. :)
 
2012-12-08 07:19:02 PM  

Dogsbody: How about you stop the ship from sinking and then worry about how clean the decks are?!? Silly twit.


He had the tumour removed a year ago.
 
2012-12-08 07:21:10 PM  

stiletto_the_wise: You know, every time I get to the point where I'm thinking, "You know, the government really shouldn't be allowed to take away someone's kid" an article like this comes up and proves me wrong. She'd rather choose herbal tea and magnetic field therapy for her son over a potentially life-saving treatment.


If it was as clear cut as you seem to think, the judge would surely have ruled in favour of treatment already?
 
2012-12-08 07:22:08 PM  
Have a family friend with a daughter who was born with a tumor either in her brain or right by her brain stem. They used radiation to kill it and she wound up with brain damage because of it.

Times have changed of course, nowadays they're more careful about limiting the radiation dosage, but she's not crazy for being worried about this. This kid has a brain tumor as well, if I were his parent I'd certainly resist radiation therapy.
 
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