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(Google)   #%#^#%. Guy next to me in the library won't stop flapping his knees together. What are your library pet peeves? (Besides too easily annoyed people like Subby, smartass)   (google.com) divider line 47
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2012-12-08 02:01:41 PM  
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... he was doing the Charleston?
 
2012-12-08 02:12:20 PM  
My library pet peeve are people that taze me when I make annoying noises in the library.
 
2012-12-08 02:17:13 PM  
I haven't been to a library in 15 years.
 
2012-12-08 02:19:24 PM  
A better survey would have been asking how many people actually have library pet peeves.
 
2012-12-08 02:28:55 PM  
Cut him some slack, he's on the short strokes now. He'll be done soon.
 
2012-12-08 02:42:47 PM  

EvilEgg: Cut him some slack, he's on the short strokes now. He'll be done soon.


Flapping.
 
2012-12-08 03:20:04 PM  
Turn off your goddamn cell phones.  There are signs on all the doors, including those in the courtyard area.
 
2012-12-08 03:22:52 PM  
Shut the fark up I'm trying to read here!

/there's some weird stereotype about libraries being quiet
//no more true than the notion that nurses are pretty
 
2012-12-08 03:40:13 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: /there's some weird stereotype about libraries being quiet
//no more true than the notion that nurses are pretty



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2012-12-08 04:04:44 PM  
people using larger study rooms to take naps.
 
2012-12-08 04:22:25 PM  
 
2012-12-08 04:31:12 PM  
People interrupting me when I'm fapping in the reference section.
 
2012-12-08 04:37:44 PM  
Loud teenagers, clueless old people, nowhere near enough plugs, and farking cell phones with Gangnam Style ringtones set at 300 db.
 
2012-12-08 05:19:24 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Turn off your goddamn cell phones.  There are signs on all the doors, including those in the courtyard area.


This ^
and this:

AliceBToklasLives: Shut the fark up I'm trying to read here!


Plus people who refuse to shower/bathe or bring tissues with them and spend a hour snorting up snot off their upper lips.
 
2012-12-08 05:37:19 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Turn off your goddamn cell phones.  There are signs on all the doors, including those in the courtyard area.


This. I work in a library and we finally gave up reminding people not to be inconsiderate jackasses because we'd need 3 or 4 full time people walking around telling people to get off the damn phone.
 
2012-12-08 05:50:23 PM  
women who won't have sex with me in the stacks
 
2012-12-08 06:46:51 PM  
The fact that in 2012, we still have a big old building full of stacks and stacks of decaying paper as a primary means to store and transfer knowledge. They can't be easily searched, they get lost and not replaced, and at any moment they can be taken out of circulation.

Once everything is digitized, libraries are just an anachronism.
 
2012-12-08 06:50:22 PM  
Dog-eared book pages. Highlighting, or notes written all over the place. Missing illustrations and pages. Bad scotch-tape repairs that leave sticky goo all over the place. Notes in the online catalogue that the book I'd hoped to borrow is "Missing" or Due six months ago.

Other patrons never bother me, I can tune all of them out.
 
2012-12-08 06:51:29 PM  

Generation_D: Once everything is digitized


So ... when's that gonna be?
 
2012-12-08 06:53:53 PM  

phaseolus: Generation_D: Once everything is digitized

So ... when's that gonna be?


Already well under way. You've not seen google books, or the library of congress online?
 
2012-12-08 07:12:24 PM  

Generation_D: phaseolus: Generation_D: Once everything is digitized

So ... when's that gonna be?

Already well under way. You've not seen google books, or the library of congress online?



So ... I'd be tied to my desk if I wanted to read something, then, or be forced to spend money I don't have on a reader or a tablet? And forced to pay for a lot of content I can borrow from my library for free?

And people who can't afford internet access would be SOL?
 
2012-12-08 07:21:21 PM  

phaseolus: Generation_D: phaseolus: Generation_D: Once everything is digitized

So ... when's that gonna be?

Already well under way. You've not seen google books, or the library of congress online?


So ... I'd be tied to my desk if I wanted to read something, then, or be forced to spend money I don't have on a reader or a tablet? And forced to pay for a lot of content I can borrow from my library for free?

And people who can't afford internet access would be SOL?


You're tied to your tablet, which is smaller than your desk typically. Plus, you dont have to go visit the library, which involves leaving your house, which is more of an annoyance in many cases. As for affording access, the tablets are almost being given away now as it is.

Paper books take up space, can't be easily searched, age and get ruined in a variety of ways, and weigh as much or more than a tablet.

There are still niches they're useful, but in 100 years or less they'll be as relevant as papyrus scrolls are today.
 
2012-12-08 07:24:46 PM  

phaseolus: Generation_D: phaseolus: Generation_D: Once everything is digitized

So ... when's that gonna be?

Already well under way. You've not seen google books, or the library of congress online?


So ... I'd be tied to my desk if I wanted to read something, then, or be forced to spend money I don't have on a reader or a tablet? And forced to pay for a lot of content I can borrow from my library for free?

And people who can't afford internet access would be SOL?


I realize you're white knighting some imagined oppressed population, but who is actually not able to afford internet access of some kind right now in any country that already has books.

I mean, apples to apples please. If you're saying there's no internet in a lot of some parts of the world, then thats true. But there aren't a lot of books there either.

Which is easier to provide to third world countries: A tablet and an internet connection, which gets you access to everything thats out there already... or a truckload of books, which gets you .. a truckload of books?

Other than the romance of books, which honestly is no different than the romance of 45 RPM records, or the romance of analog stereo, or the romance of 8 mm film, or the romance of Polaroid pictures.

Once there's a fully in place digital solution, they all start to look a bit ridiculous and outdated, unless you're fetishizing the analog just because it IS analog. Which is fine, but it isn't the same argument.
 
2012-12-08 08:17:07 PM  
I always get amused by people who fetishize new technology as if it's automatically in every way superior to older technology without realizing they're making the same mistake as people who fetishize old technology as if it's automatically superior in every way to new...
 
2012-12-08 08:50:31 PM  

pseudowho: I always get amused by people who fetishize new technology as if it's automatically in every way superior to older technology without realizing they're making the same mistake as people who fetishize old technology as if it's automatically superior in every way to new...


Sure, if that were what I was doing.

What I'm doing is realizing i get most of my reading material now and almost all of my news by hand held or portable electronic means. Its the same thing as what happened with music 10 years ago.

Dead tree media won't last my lifetime, except as a niche similar to vinyl media.
 
2012-12-08 09:24:27 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Shut the fark up I'm trying to read here!

/there's some weird stereotype about libraries being quiet
//no more true than the notion that nurses are pretty


Hey, you're supposed to check out the books!

/and then return them on time
 
2012-12-08 10:13:04 PM  
Noisy librarians. All that shushing is incredibly aggravating.
 
2012-12-08 10:32:04 PM  
The Edmonton Public Library, while beautiful and wonderful, is full of homeless people who just hang out trying to get warm. While there's nothing wrong wrong with that, the permanent smell of body odor, shiat, and mold is kind of a bummer when trying to read or research.

The roving gangs of teenagers beating the shiat out of random people is also somewhat of a problem.

But otherwise, it's a nice library.
 
2012-12-08 11:39:40 PM  
Maybe subby should use his rotary phone to report the guy
 
2012-12-09 12:37:22 AM  

Generation_D: Already well under way. You've not seen google books, or the library of congress online?


Since when is the LoC material online? Even their own website says only the catalog and a few select materials are online. Not the content, which is contained in 838 miles of shelving.

"Users outside the Library can gain free access to its online catalog. Major exhibitions of the library are also available online, as are selected prints and photographs, historic films and political speeches. Information about the U.S. Congress can be found online at THOMAS, and the Library has recently launched an app that allows users access to the Congressional Record on their iPads."

Here's an example of one of their "full records" for a book.
 
2012-12-09 05:02:32 AM  
 
2012-12-09 08:20:47 AM  
Generation_D has never tried to wipe his butt with a "page" torn out of an e-book.
 
2012-12-09 08:50:21 AM  
sniffling. Over and over and over. Especially wet sniffling.
 
2012-12-09 09:38:11 AM  
What new institution or technology is going to kill libraries this time? Tired, boring conversation.
 
2012-12-09 10:52:10 AM  
Regarding libraries: Pop-up books! Hard to digitize those. And babies can't chew on digitized books (or rip their pages).

Regarding peeves: People who play the music in their headphones so loud I can hear it. If I wanted to hear it, I'd be playing it myself.
 
2012-12-09 11:15:58 AM  
Our university library had an ancient stack system. In the 60s, when the college switched to a university, they basically built a new library around the old one, with the old one becoming "The Stacks," with all sorts of nooks and crannies.

Wandering the stacks in the wee hours of the morning was always an enlightening experience.
 
2012-12-09 07:07:53 PM  
When I was in university I used to hate when I'd hear people near me making out. I chose that secluded desk because it was quiet.
 
2012-12-09 11:13:51 PM  

Generation_D: phaseolus: Generation_D: phaseolus: Generation_D: Once everything is digitized

So ... when's that gonna be?

Already well under way. You've not seen google books, or the library of congress online?

So ... I'd be tied to my desk if I wanted to read something, then, or be forced to spend money I don't have on a reader or a tablet? And forced to pay for a lot of content I can borrow from my library for free?

And people who can't afford internet access would be SOL?

I realize you're white knighting some imagined oppressed population, but who is actually not able to afford internet access of some kind right now in any country that already has books.

I mean, apples to apples please. If you're saying there's no internet in a lot of some parts of the world, then thats true. But there aren't a lot of books there either.

Which is easier to provide to third world countries: A tablet and an internet connection, which gets you access to everything thats out there already... or a truckload of books, which gets you .. a truckload of books?

Other than the romance of books, which honestly is no different than the romance of 45 RPM records, or the romance of analog stereo, or the romance of 8 mm film, or the romance of Polaroid pictures.

Once there's a fully in place digital solution, they all start to look a bit ridiculous and outdated, unless you're fetishizing the analog just because it IS analog. Which is fine, but it isn't the same argument.



I am a member of your generation (I'm assuming), and I have two things to say from experience:

1) Bashing old stuff won't endear you to anybody. :) Humans are tribal, and any reminder of the secure - and largely functional - environment in which they grew up becomes a proxy for they and those who used said environment, such as themselves. You attack peoples' institutions from way back when, you effectively (if unconsciously) attack THEM as old and outmoded. No real way around it.

2) I'm ADD, and I can't focus at home. I also don't want to buy coffee every time I want to read something. So libraries are awesome.

That being said, your points about the economics of reading are well-taken. I would caution that, even if all existing books were digitized and made free today (and the old copies preserved in paperback), it would probably take CENTURIES for books to become as rare as vinyl. A few reasons:

a) Thousands more years of habit.

b) Extraordinarily broad dispersal.

c) Failsafeness in an age of uncertain energy reserves and imperfect infrastructure.

d) INTENSE nostalgia.

e) Undeniable underground appeal, especially for political and social reasons (there's that tribalism again).
 
2012-12-10 12:24:35 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Turn off your goddamn cell phones.  There are signs on all the doors, including those in the courtyard area.


Wait, that seems kind of harsh. Turning off the ringer, yes, but turning the phone off completely? Have they never heard of smartphones, where people might just be looking for WiFi?
 
2012-12-10 12:51:13 AM  

Make More Hinjews: That being said, your points about the economics of reading are well-taken. I would caution that, even if all existing books were digitized and made free today (and the old copies preserved in paperback), it would probably take CENTURIES for books to become as rare as vinyl. A few reasons:

a) Thousands more years of habit.

b) Extraordinarily broad dispersal.

c) Failsafeness in an age of uncertain energy reserves and imperfect infrastructure.

d) INTENSE nostalgia.

e) Undeniable underground appeal, especially for political and social reasons (there's that tribalism again).


I would add

f) print-on-demand and what I guess you could call "recycle on demand" which will allow you to create many items including analog books within moments, and then instantly reclaim the material from most objects to be used as raw material for whatever you're printing next...

and possibly

g) concerns over EMP, which will be used more and more in the coming years in war and terrorism, or even by pranksters, to destroy electronics (not to mention solar storms which we've been lucky about so far).

Nonvolatile copies of important data (from books to photos, to whatever) will be seen as more valuable than they are now as a result.

Personally, my dream house when I build it will contain both a large library for my physical books as well as a room that's a Faraday Cage where I can store critical electronics and especially backups of my data.
 
2012-12-10 01:31:41 AM  

davidphogan: Bathia_Mapes: Turn off your goddamn cell phones.  There are signs on all the doors, including those in the courtyard area.

Wait, that seems kind of harsh. Turning off the ringer, yes, but turning the phone off completely? Have they never heard of smartphones, where people might just be looking for WiFi?



That's what I mean.  Silent and/or vibrate is fine, but your phone shouldn't be ringing audibly while you're inside the library.  The library isn't asking people to turn off their phones completely.  Granted I worded my original comment somewhat poorly, and I apologize for that.
 
2012-12-10 02:00:51 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: davidphogan: Bathia_Mapes: Turn off your goddamn cell phones.  There are signs on all the doors, including those in the courtyard area.

Wait, that seems kind of harsh. Turning off the ringer, yes, but turning the phone off completely? Have they never heard of smartphones, where people might just be looking for WiFi?


That's what I mean.  Silent and/or vibrate is fine, but your phone shouldn't be ringing audibly while you're inside the library.  The library isn't asking people to turn off their phones completely.  Granted I worded my original comment somewhat poorly, and I apologize for that.


That makes more sense, I've just heard of no phone policies including using a smartphone before. I thought maybe it was one of those situations.
 
2012-12-10 06:28:42 AM  
My library pet peeve: When the librarian has no sense of humor.

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I thought this was hilarious. She made me put them all back the way they "belong".
 
2012-12-10 08:38:42 AM  

WorkingInParadise: My library pet peeve: When the librarian has no sense of humor.

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I thought this was hilarious. She made me put them all back the way they "belong".


Okay, thank you for the monday morning chuckle :)
 
2012-12-10 08:42:57 AM  
Cropdusters, intentional or otherwise. Nothing ruins my concentration like someone walking by smelling like they just shiat themselves..
 
2012-12-10 12:07:54 PM  
i'd probably say it's people talking. I understand the exchange of a few words, but once you're in more than 4 sentences of conversation, it's time to step outside.

other than that, it's not a farking monastery... there will be some noise occasionally.
 
2012-12-11 02:52:44 PM  

WorkingInParadise: My library pet peeve: When the librarian has no sense of humor.

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I thought this was hilarious. She made me put them all back the way they "belong".



Got a good giggle out of me. Still chuckling, in fact.
 
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