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(Metro)   Will machines wipe out the human race?   (metro.co.uk) divider line 77
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2012-12-08 06:25:13 PM
More importantly, will they love? Somehow, in between all the terminating and the killing and the ending of humanity, they forgot about the love.
 
2012-12-08 06:26:46 PM

ShobuZukuri: [identidadgeek.com image 150x226]

This is also the premiss for the movie "DUNE" where the "Butlerian Jihad", the crusade against computers, thinking machines, and conscious robots begun as a religious movement. Its chief commandment remains in the O.C. Bible as "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."


Terminator > Matrix > Dune.
 
2012-12-08 06:29:08 PM
Jaron Lanier wrote what I found to be a great article about this, based entirely on arguments from engineering.

From what I can recall,

(a) No, because practically speaking any operating system complex enough to run a machine intelligence is going to be a piece of crap that crashes out constantly*, and
(b) no, because practically speaking nobody's going to volunteer billions and billions of dollars, tons of cutting-edge gear, and thousands of research staff to develop a sentient computer which by definition will be able to disobey the operator, and
(c) probably a few other devastating arguments too, it's been a while, sorry.

I've since never been able to find a link to the article (I'm sure it was free and not something I tracked down through the University's online periodicals), but if you find the subject interesting you might want to google search this guy's writings. Some big names in the field seemed to take his arguments quite seriously.

Oh, and also Randall Munroe has a good argument against robot apocalypse that even includes cartoons with stick figures.

* - e.g., the engineers discover far too late that their subroutine for emotional responses has an incompatibility with a legacy Linksys WRT-54G driver, so they write a patch which then cacks the visual recognition subroutine, which they patch in a way that now intermittently disables the battery monitor, and so on; and then they give up and farm it all out to a code factory in Bangalore to sort out, but the code comes back even worse and they even deleted out all the comments and so now we may as well start all over again....
 
2012-12-08 06:34:57 PM

Ishkur: They won't wipe us out. They'll just replace us. Or we'll merge with them. Or something.

It'll be a slow burn thing that occurs gradually over hundreds of years. Before we know it, we won't be human anymore.


you just don't get it. humans ARE machines. idiots on Fark laugh at television programs like Ancient Aliens because heaven forbid they have open minds and ask 'what if' questions. it's so sad that millions of dooshbags swallow THEORY lock stock and barrel and primp about as if they know the meaning of Life and all that. well they don't but let me tell you something Junior I've danced on the face of Jupiter and I can share a thing or two with you.

first off the THEORY of evolution: blow me. second, the bible / all religion: blow me and swallow. mankind is a high functioning machine and if you la-la boys could live long enough you'd find out (as mankind will) that we are a machine left on this planet. that's all there is to it. we didn't evolve from minkees for heaven sake, stop it. the vast cosmos holds millions of races of beings so incredibly superior to us its not even funny. ancient aliens TV guy is on the money. we are the product of another race, we were left here long ago to reproduce, we are monitored regularly by visitors that avoid us. you've been to Walmart. of course they want to avoid us!

i'll tell you more in the future but for now consider yourself much the wiser. i've nothing to gain by lying to you or misleading you. i've seen them, i've been there with them. i can tell you all you want to know.

/be patient
 
2012-12-08 06:39:02 PM

Hector Remarkable: More importantly, will they love? Somehow, in between all the terminating and the killing and the ending of humanity, they forgot about the love.


I am confident that the Japanese are working overtime at designing robots who love.

Which raises the interesting possibility of a robotic teenage Japanese schoolgirl sexbot apocalypse.

Which would be so awesome.
 
2012-12-08 07:37:55 PM
media1.gameinformer.com
 
2012-12-08 07:53:52 PM
Maybe they'll just keep a few alive to mess with . . .

www.oldgames.sk
 
2012-12-08 07:58:46 PM

KrispyKritter: humans ARE machines.


No.

Machines don't reproduce.

(and if you want to argue this point you're going to have to define what you mean by "machine" first)
 
2012-12-08 08:03:56 PM

Apos: Yes.


merkinpeeble: Of course they will.


Notabunny: It's already begun.


DreamyAltarBoy: I certainly hope so.


SnakeLee: If they do, I just hope they make it count.


Ishkur: They'll just replace us


Nuclear Monk: Yeah...maybe human life as we know it gets overtaken by borg-like robots, but as they expand outward and takeover the universe, it still counts as our team winning.


macadamnut: Eventually.


Amos Quito: Our technology will screw us


zamboni: I hope so.


Gyrfalcon: ....can't....stop.....giggling....


OhioUGrad: I think it's well on its way.


KrispyKritter: first off the THEORY of evolution: blow me. second, the bible / all religion: blow me and swallow.



Yes, subby... and it can't happen soon enough IMHO.
 
2012-12-08 08:08:24 PM
Just bought my 11yr. old daughter a smartphone yesterday as a Christmas present and for being on honor roll the past 2 years. Would've been smarter to put a bullet in her I guess.
 
2012-12-08 08:39:30 PM
Wow 60+ posts and no Foundation quotes...

\ Am disappoint
\\ Sad slash
 
2012-12-08 09:03:55 PM
The Humans are dead?

/Oblig, NSFW language.
 
2012-12-08 09:57:02 PM

Ishkur: KrispyKritter: humans ARE machines.

No.

Machines don't reproduce.

(and if you want to argue this point you're going to have to define what you mean by "machine" first)


Don't tell the Replicators...
 
2012-12-08 10:13:05 PM

ShobuZukuri: [identidadgeek.com image 150x226]

This is also the premiss for the movie "DUNE" where the "Butlerian Jihad", the crusade against computers, thinking machines, and conscious robots begun as a religious movement. Its chief commandment remains in the O.C. Bible as "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."


Came to post this, leaving satisfied.
 
2012-12-08 10:31:00 PM
Artificial Intelligence expert Massimo Barbato , author of Thinking Beyond Limitation, welcome the establishment of the CSER.

Massimo Barbato
Mister Roboto
 
2012-12-08 10:43:32 PM
Well I think machines will destroy the world people will still be in control of them and the whole thing will be started by 99 red balloons : )
 
2012-12-08 10:54:57 PM
jmstevenson.files.wordpress.com

An intriguing question.

/choose Synthesis!
 
2012-12-08 10:55:28 PM

ArmanTanzarian: Wow 60+ posts and no Foundation quotes...

\ Am disappoint
\\ Sad slash


I was waiting for a Bender 'KIll all Humans'/ All the things hybrid meme.

2damnfunny.com
 
2012-12-08 11:09:35 PM
They just want to protect us... 

/Pak... chooie... unf...
 
2012-12-08 11:27:01 PM
We may deserve such a fate.
 
2012-12-08 11:27:14 PM

Fail in Human Form: SnakeLee: If they do, I just hope they make it count. I want the whole solar system converted to one giant processor and I want them expanding as far as robotically possible

Soooo you want us to unleash a plague on the universe?


We are the plague unleashed on the universe. We're just wondering about the next phase.
 
2012-12-09 12:14:29 AM
Humans will continue to integrate with their devices more and more. Home computers led to smart phones which will lead to wearables which will lead to implantables which will lead to maternally-transmissables. At this point homo-sapiens will have speciated into several varieties that will have difficulty communicating. The two most dominate species, homo-Google and homo-Apple, will have a natural enmity dating back to today's IP disputes. War will ravage the land. EMPs will lead to legions of zombies who will have no idea how to find restaurants, remember birthdays, or even locate major parts of the anatomy without machine aid. The world we be in need of a savior. Herobrine will return and unite humanity to put aside their weapons, rebuild, and prepare to face the ender dragon.
 
2012-12-09 12:18:13 AM

LostGuy: Humans will continue to integrate with their devices more and more. Home computers led to smart phones which will lead to wearables which will lead to implantables which will lead to maternally-transmissables. At this point homo-sapiens will have speciated into several varieties that will have difficulty communicating. The two most dominate species, homo-Google and homo-Apple, will have a natural enmity dating back to today's IP disputes. War will ravage the land. EMPs will lead to legions of zombies who will have no idea how to find restaurants, remember birthdays, or even locate major parts of the anatomy without machine aid. The world we be in need of a savior. Herobrine will return and unite humanity to put aside their weapons, rebuild, and prepare to face the ender dragon.


www.brainygamer.com
Brilliant.
 
2012-12-09 03:47:55 AM
When machines do 90% of the work and there is no work now for those 90% people to do....well maybe we need to rethink a lot of things. But hopefully if there are robots they look more like Cameron (Summer Gua) rather than Arnold
 
2012-12-09 09:09:01 AM
I for one would like to welcome our new metallic overlords
 
2012-12-09 11:40:44 AM
Barfmaker: No worries, I have top men working on this.

Who?

Top. Men.

indiana-jones-and-raiders-of-lost-ark.trailertheater.com
Approves.
 
2012-12-09 03:39:52 PM
media.giantbomb.com

Just call this guy.
 
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