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(Some Guy)   Sony to cease manufacturing some kind of device called a "cassette recorder" in 2013   (en.akihabaranews.com) divider line 70
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2012-12-08 12:41:28 AM
FTFA: All good things must come to an end and I am sorry to report that Sony WILL discontinue early January 2013 once and for all the production of its latest Cassette Player/ Recorder!

OMFG!!! WHAT AM I GOING TO USE TO MAKE/PLAY MY MIX TAPES???!!!11!!
 
2012-12-08 12:59:08 AM
CSB time:

Back in the mid 80s while in college, I worked for Radio Shack.

I sold a guy one of their first portable CD players, and, just so he could play it in his factory 8-track equipped mid-70s Cutlass, a headphone-out to cassette adapter, and a cassette to 8-track adapter.

It worked so well he tipped me with a bag of some really good shiat.
 
2012-12-08 01:02:18 AM
i236.photobucket.com

Rahad Jackson does not approve.
 
2012-12-08 01:55:37 AM
Yesterday I lent my VCR to a buddy that had to watch something on a VHS recorded in 1991, for something to do with his job. Just because something isn't cutting edge doesn't mean we don't still need it.
 
2012-12-08 08:23:12 AM
Isn't there some kind of hipster movement that drones on about the superior sound of cassette tapes?
 
2012-12-08 08:59:04 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Isn't there some kind of hipster movement that drones on about the superior sound of cassette tapes?


I was going to jump on this and make a mock rant about the fidelity of the media...but them I looked at all the analog film cameras sitting around me and decided to just let it go.
 
2012-12-08 09:10:47 AM
Keep getting an increasing share of a shrinking market. Down the tubes. Slow but sure. You know, at one time there must've been dozens of companies making buggy whips. And I'll bet the last company around was the one that made the best goddamn buggy whip you ever saw.
 
2012-12-08 09:24:29 AM
I have a couple of Crayola CD Walkmen that work great if anyone is interested?

i.ebayimg.com

/make me an offer
 
2012-12-08 09:33:50 AM
Nothing beats the fidelity of my wax cylinder, biatches.
 
2012-12-08 09:35:57 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Keep getting an increasing share of a shrinking market. Down the tubes. Slow but sure. You know, at one time there must've been dozens of companies making buggy whips. And I'll bet the last company around was the one that made the best goddamn buggy whip you ever saw.


There's a difference between something made from leather or cord vs something made from hundreds of little parts. And that's the real surprise about optical disc drives, once the tech was figured out there were only a few parts needed to make all of your disc drives.
 
2012-12-08 09:49:44 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Isn't there some kind of hipster movement that drones on about the superior sound of cassette tapes?


No, because cassettes sucked. Vinyl and reel to reel do not.
 
2012-12-08 09:51:25 AM

Ennuipoet: FirstNationalBastard: Isn't there some kind of hipster movement that drones on about the superior sound of cassette tapes?

I was going to jump on this and make a mock rant about the fidelity of the media...but them I looked at all the analog film cameras sitting around me and decided to just let it go.


Did somebody invent the infinite sampling rate?
 
2012-12-08 09:55:53 AM
at least they still have 8 tracks
 
2012-12-08 09:57:18 AM

MFAWG: Did somebody invent the infinite sampling rate?


To tell the truth, I don't know. I could make an informed comment on tonal characteristics and grain patterns, which is likely the same thing in a different medium.
 
2012-12-08 09:59:19 AM

MFAWG: FirstNationalBastard: Isn't there some kind of hipster movement that drones on about the superior sound of cassette tapes?

No, because cassettes sucked. Vinyl and reel to reel do not.


1/2" Tape is the shiat, yo
 
2012-12-08 10:01:48 AM

MFAWG: FirstNationalBastard: Isn't there some kind of hipster movement that drones on about the superior sound of cassette tapes?

No, because cassettes sucked. Vinyl and reel to reel do not.


99.99% of people have never heard sound from a half-track reel-to-reel running at 15 ips, so they just do not understand.
 
2012-12-08 10:03:34 AM
My 8" floppy has more fidelity than your fancy BluRay with all it's DTS and Dolby crap
 
2012-12-08 10:25:23 AM
t0.gstatic.com 

who the fark wrote over my 8 track label
 
2012-12-08 10:28:50 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: My 8" floppy has more fidelity than your fancy BluRay with all it's DTS and Dolby crap


But only when it's played over gold-plated Monster cables.
 
zez
2012-12-08 10:46:29 AM

markie_farkie: CSB time:

Back in the mid 80s while in college, I worked for Radio Shack.

I sold a guy one of their first portable CD players, and, just so he could play it in his factory 8-track equipped mid-70s Cutlass, a headphone-out to cassette adapter, and a cassette to 8-track adapter.

It worked so well he tipped me with a bag of some really good shiat.


I used to have a setup like that but my 8-track was an underdash 8-track/FM radio since the car only had AM.

Then I moved up to a portable cassette player spliced into my 40W power booster.

/off my lawn
 
2012-12-08 10:53:20 AM
I found it was pretty easy to make my mp3 player sound like an authentic cassette system: First a ran a DD against the Mp3s to randomly flip a bit every few kilobytes and then a tool that automatically starts reducing the tempo at the 2 hour mark until 2:15 minutes in it just shuts down the app. Oh and a 10% chance every time I change the play list that it deletes one of the mp3s.

I feel exactly like I'm back in the glory days of analog music, its great!
 
zez
2012-12-08 10:59:44 AM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-08 11:49:28 AM

MFAWG: FirstNationalBastard: Isn't there some kind of hipster movement that drones on about the superior sound of cassette tapes?

No, because cassettes sucked. Vinyl and reel to reel do not.


Limited dynamic range, bass mixed down to mono, wow and flutter, etc. Vinyl is an archaic medium that people cling to because they misunderstand sampling rates and bit depth.
 
2012-12-08 11:52:40 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: at least they still have 8 tracks


Had a '68 Camaro convertible in high school/first 2 years of college. 8- track player. Two tapes. 'Machine Head' by Deep Purple and 'Endless Summer' by the Beach Boys. Good times.
 
2012-12-08 11:53:45 AM
I still have one of these:

tokyo5.files.wordpress.com

/have needed a new band drive for it since 1985
 
2012-12-08 11:58:05 AM

zez:


That's great :)
 
2012-12-08 12:03:13 PM
I remember even when I was a little kid, like 5 years old, thinking that 8 tracks sucked horribly. Turns out I was right.
 
2012-12-08 12:26:55 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Isn't there some kind of hipster movement that drones on about the superior sound of cassette tapes?


Funny you should mention that. There's a large group of black metal bands/labels that are cassette exclusive.

I recently had to pick up a cassette player when my wife brought all of her cassette tapes back from Russia and asked me to do mp3 transfers of them all. Talk about tedious...
 
2012-12-08 12:27:07 PM
Does anyone else remember using a cassette recorder to save their files on?
Yes it was the days before floppies.
My first: Texas Instruments TI-99/4A

www.mainbyte.com
 
2012-12-08 12:32:23 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: I still have one of these:

[tokyo5.files.wordpress.com image 301x370]

/have needed a new band drive for it since 1985


Soundwave? Is that you?
 
2012-12-08 12:33:06 PM

cig-mkr: Does anyone else remember using a cassette recorder to save their files on?


I used to save patches from my Yamaha DX21 synth to cassette.
 
2012-12-08 12:33:21 PM
HotWingAgenda

"Just because something isn't cutting edge doesn't mean we don't still need it."

Yep. I have an entire dresser (and then some) of prerecorded cassettes, many of which were never issued on CD. I need something to transfer them to digital. So I have a stockpile of 8 cassette decks, all nice machines & all dirt cheap these days. 2 Onkyos, a Kenwood, a Technics, a Realistic, 2 3-head Tascam broadcast decks, and a Nakamichi 3-head, which is my favorite.

Oh goody... I see we have a format war going on in this thread... Fact is, all formats suck, and they're all awesome. Except 8-track, which just sucked.
 
2012-12-08 12:45:13 PM

Bacontastesgood: I remember even when I was a little kid, like 5 years old, thinking that 8 tracks sucked horribly. Turns out I was right.


But the 4-tracks that preceded them were much better. Double the bandwidth, and being gear-driven, they eliminated most of the wow and flutter that misaligned 8-tracks suffered from.

upload.wikimedia.org

We had a Quadrophonic 4-track deck when I was a kid (Quad, unfortunately takes you back to the same bandwidth as 8-tracks), and the sound quality was much preferable to cassettes or 8-track players. It would play both Quad and Stereo, although Stereo was much better.
 
2012-12-08 12:50:26 PM

GibbyTheMole: HotWingAgenda

"Just because something isn't cutting edge doesn't mean we don't still need it."

Yep. I have an entire dresser (and then some) of prerecorded cassettes, many of which were never issued on CD. I need something to transfer them to digital. So I have a stockpile of 8 cassette decks, all nice machines & all dirt cheap these days. 2 Onkyos, a Kenwood, a Technics, a Realistic, 2 3-head Tascam broadcast decks, and a Nakamichi 3-head, which is my favorite.

Oh goody... I see we have a format war going on in this thread... Fact is, all formats suck, and they're all awesome. Except 8-track, which just sucked.


I always found it, well, ironic isn't the right word but...somethingsomethingsomething that broadcast carts looked so much like 8 tracks.
 
2012-12-08 12:50:45 PM

zez: [25.media.tumblr.com image 402x299]


This made me lol... I remember having to do that many times in my younger years.


/Get off my lawn
 
2012-12-08 01:03:19 PM
UNAUTHORIZED FINGER

That looks uncannily like a broadcast cart.

/old radio guy
 
2012-12-08 01:09:13 PM
John Buck 41

I always found it, well, ironic isn't the right word but...somethingsomethingsomething that broadcast carts looked so much like 8 tracks.

LOL. Just spotted your post.

Yeah, the 4 track cartridge evolved from the broadcast cart & the 8 track evolved from the 4 track. The big reason 8 tracks sucked is because you had 8 super thin tracks squeezed onto the width of the tape, and the wow & flutter was horrible because unlike broadcast carts & 4 tracks, the pinch roller was in the cartridge rather than the machine. And the pinch roller was a small plastic roller on a plastic pin with a larger rubber roller over it. (if you were lucky) It wasn't precision to begin with, but what made it worse, was when the plastic wore from friction, you'd get rough spots that would cause flutter. 8 tracks just plain sucked.
 
2012-12-08 01:13:15 PM
Whats hilarious is tape data files as MP3. My dad was working on some old synth and had to reload the programming on it via mp3 versions of the data files from some website.
 
2012-12-08 01:19:06 PM

GibbyTheMole: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER

That looks uncannily like a broadcast cart.

/old radio guy


My step dad also did radio for the Navy, so that may be where our 4-track player came from. We had hundreds of 4-track cassettes of all music genres, and I must have listened to each one hundreds of times. The pic I chose was the closest I could find to what I remember, so it may very well be a broadcast cartridge.
 
2012-12-08 01:49:41 PM

Cyno01: Whats hilarious is tape data files as MP3. My dad was working on some old synth and had to reload the programming on it via mp3 versions of the data files from some website.


Too cool! Any problems with the lossy files, or did it work fine? What a great idea for old synth patches.
 
2012-12-08 01:49:49 PM
UNAUTHORIZED FINGER

Found this image of a Muntz 4-track cartridge:

i.ebayimg.com

Yep... a lot like the broadcast cart, only the 4-track had a lot more tape on the hub to accommodate an entire album.

Speaking of obscure formats, try the RCA tape cartridge on for size.

Or how 'bout Sony's failed "Elcaset"?

Wire recorders sounded like a joy to use.
 
2012-12-08 02:00:55 PM

Dragonflew: Cyno01: Whats hilarious is tape data files as MP3. My dad was working on some old synth and had to reload the programming on it via mp3 versions of the data files from some website.

Too cool! Any problems with the lossy files, or did it work fine? What a great idea for old synth patches.


Nah, audio data data is pretty crappy and error tolerant to begin with, it sorta has to be.
 
2012-12-08 02:35:49 PM
My home stereo has a dual cassette deck (and single CD), I got it as a gift when I was 16...Im 35 now. It still works, every function of it.

I bet if I buy a modern equivalent it wont last 19+ years.

/my 19 inch color TV is 17 years old
//still works
 
2012-12-08 02:36:30 PM

GibbyTheMole: John Buck 41

I always found it, well, ironic isn't the right word but...somethingsomethingsomething that broadcast carts looked so much like 8 tracks.

LOL. Just spotted your post.

Yeah, the 4 track cartridge evolved from the broadcast cart & the 8 track evolved from the 4 track. The big reason 8 tracks sucked is because you had 8 super thin tracks squeezed onto the width of the tape, and the wow & flutter was horrible because unlike broadcast carts & 4 tracks, the pinch roller was in the cartridge rather than the machine. And the pinch roller was a small plastic roller on a plastic pin with a larger rubber roller over it. (if you were lucky) It wasn't precision to begin with, but what made it worse, was when the plastic wore from friction, you'd get rough spots that would cause flutter. 8 tracks just plain sucked.


Ever have to use a dime to unscrew the top to get at the pin? If I had a dime for every time I had to do that, I'd have....many dimes.
 
2012-12-08 02:42:58 PM

TheChaosPath: FirstNationalBastard: Isn't there some kind of hipster movement that drones on about the superior sound of cassette tapes?

Funny you should mention that. There's a large group of black metal bands/labels that are cassette exclusive.

I recently had to pick up a cassette player when my wife brought all of her cassette tapes back from Russia and asked me to do mp3 transfers of them all. Talk about tedious...


My father wanted me to do that for him with his vinyl - I told him to go to hell.

I'd rather give him $1000 in iTunes gift cards, than listen to hundreds of f*cking Glen Campbell and Floyd Cramer and Peter Paul & Mary records, slice up the records into songs, and put them in a library.
 
2012-12-08 02:52:48 PM
i258.photobucket.com
Inconsolable
 
2012-12-08 02:54:22 PM

Lernaeus: TheChaosPath: FirstNationalBastard: Isn't there some kind of hipster movement that drones on about the superior sound of cassette tapes?

Funny you should mention that. There's a large group of black metal bands/labels that are cassette exclusive.

I recently had to pick up a cassette player when my wife brought all of her cassette tapes back from Russia and asked me to do mp3 transfers of them all. Talk about tedious...

My father wanted me to do that for him with his vinyl - I told him to go to hell.

I'd rather give him $1000 in iTunes gift cards, than listen to hundreds of f*cking Glen Campbell and Floyd Cramer and Peter Paul & Mary records, slice up the records into songs, and put them in a library.


I remember something about being able to use an optical scanner to digitize vinyl records all in one go instead of playing them back. Seems plausible, but youd still have to figure out where to split the files.
 
2012-12-08 02:56:56 PM
When they quit making cassette tape players, how am I going to listen to my tapes of "CBS Radio Mystery Theater" with your host, E.G. Marshall??

/it's from the mid-'70s.
//off the lawn unless you're raking the leaves.
 
2012-12-08 03:09:25 PM
John Buck 41:

"Ever have to use a dime to unscrew the top to get at the pin? If I had a dime for every time I had to do that, I'd have....many dimes."

Oh yeah... I have cracked open many a cart is my day. Our carts were Fidelipacs like this. That straight wire rod that peels the tape pack off the center would come undone and jam up the cart, and we'd have to do emergency cart surgery to unjam the thing. I hated those Fidelipacs with a passion. The Audiopaks were more reliable, but still... I don't miss carts at all.

Lernaeus:

My father wanted me to do that for him with his vinyl (rip it to CD) - I told him to go to hell.
I'd rather give him $1000 in iTunes gift cards, than listen to hundreds of f*cking Glen Campbell and Floyd Cramer and Peter Paul & Mary records, slice up the records into songs, and put them in a library.


LOL. I hear ya. I have a collection of about 1200 LPs & it's a huge job. Usually, I just rip it when I'm listening to the album anyway. Makes it more tolerable. People don't realize how labor intensive it is to do it right. Or they don't care .

Once, a former boss at another radio station I worked at volunteered my services to an old fart to rip about 30 Don Ho records to CD. This was back when I had a Pentium 100 computer (which was the norm back then) & a 2x burner. It was hell, and it took forever. I wanted to stab him in the face with an icepick.
 
2012-12-08 03:32:56 PM
Why yes I do still have an 8 track player that works and I still have a few dozen 8 tracks as well.
 
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