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(The Raw Story)   Belize archaeologist sues makers of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull for design infringement. Yeah, it's as stupid as it sounds but he claims to have top men working on it. Top. Men   (rawstory.com) divider line 48
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2012-12-07 08:19:35 PM
...the skull was found by the daughter of an adventurer named F.A. Mitchell-Hedges under a collapsed altar in temple ruins in Belize, and taken to the US in 1930.
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"LucasFilm never sought, nor was given permission to utilize the Mitchell-Hedges Skull or its likeness in the film," says the lawsuit, a copy of which was published by the Hollywood Reporter."LucasFilm never sought, nor was given permission to utilize the Mitchell-Hedges Skull or its likeness in the film," says the lawsuit, a copy of which was published by the Hollywood Reporter.


What a Mickey Mouse copyright case.
 
2012-12-07 08:26:39 PM
i.imgur.com 
You bet your ass.
 
2012-12-07 08:33:53 PM
Now? That movie was like 4 1/2 years ago.

How's that Lucasfilm investment working out so far, Disney?
 
2012-12-07 10:09:57 PM

Mugato: Now? That movie was like 4 1/2 years ago.

How's that Lucasfilm investment working out so far, Disney?


They were cursed for stealing the skull. Duh!
 
2012-12-07 10:11:54 PM
i.imgur.com

/Plaintiff
 
2012-12-07 10:51:56 PM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?
 
2012-12-07 11:06:08 PM

chewielouie: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?


It was a movie released in 2008, you may have heard of it...
 
2012-12-07 11:09:29 PM
Mitchell-Hedges Skull:

s2.hubimg.com

Indiana Jones skull:

gabtor.files.wordpress.com

Sure, totally the same thing. Right.
 
2012-12-07 11:12:13 PM
Yeah, that movie sucked.
 
2012-12-07 11:17:48 PM
This is like when the people who made Clonus sued Micheal Bay for stealing their plot for The Island. Regardless as to the money at stake, do you really want to take responsibly for creating a turd?
 
2012-12-07 11:18:19 PM
giant, ALIENS!

/nintendos pass through everything
 
2012-12-07 11:21:28 PM
this lawsuit belongs in a museum!
 
2012-12-07 11:24:24 PM

MrEricSir: This is like when the people who made Clonus sued Micheal Bay for stealing their plot for The Island. Regardless as to the money at stake, do you really want to take responsibly for creating a turd?


The premise of Clonus and The Island wasn't bad...
 
2012-12-07 11:28:45 PM
The dumbass is strong with this Awe fella.

The Mitchell-Hedges skull is well known to be fake. The Ancient Aliens Debunked guy even goes into some details regarding its origins, like being sold by Sothebys. And others have written extensively as well chronicling Mitchell-Hedges (father and daughter's) bullshiat over the years regarding it.

Awe-mighty FAIL here.
 
2012-12-07 11:28:49 PM

MrEricSir: This is like when the people who made Clonus sued Micheal Bay for stealing their plot for The Island. Regardless as to the money at stake, do you really want to take responsibly for creating a turd?


That was justified. Those movies were identical (aside from production design and the ending).

Dan Ackroyd's Vodka looks more like that guy's skull than Indy's

crystalheadvodka.com
 
2012-12-07 11:38:46 PM

B.L.Z. Bub: chewielouie: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?

It was a movie released in 2008, you may have heard of it...


Much like Highlander 2, I try and forget it exists
 
2012-12-07 11:42:15 PM
FTFA: The Hollywood Reporter described Awe as a "real-life Indiana Jones,"

Whenever I come across this term, or 'inspiration for Indiana Jones', I'm pretty sure you're a twat with a hat.

And speaking of Dan Ackroyd, here's a Peruvian skull with looks more like an inspiration for the film's skull:

www.world-mysteries.com
 
2012-12-07 11:44:57 PM
They'd have to sue MGM due to Stargate SG-1. Check out "Crystal Skull" in season 3:

Stargate SG-1 - Crystal Skull
 
2012-12-07 11:48:33 PM
No sweat of the brow doctrine, probably entered the public domain before 1950, I hope he's sued into slavery and worked to death on a banana plantation.
 
2012-12-07 11:49:27 PM

GungFu: FTFA: The Hollywood Reporter described Awe as a "real-life Indiana Jones,"

Whenever I come across this term, or 'inspiration for Indiana Jones', I'm pretty sure you're a twat with a hat.

And speaking of Dan Ackroyd, here's a Peruvian skull with looks more like an inspiration for the film's skull:

[www.world-mysteries.com image 252x361]


www.patentspostgrant.com
"Mister Lucas, the Peruvian Ambassador on line 5."
 
2012-12-07 11:59:13 PM

JosephFinn: Mitchell-Hedges Skull:

[s2.hubimg.com image 520x390]

Indiana Jones skull:

[gabtor.files.wordpress.com image 432x324]

Sure, totally the same thing. Right.


GungFu: FTFA: The Hollywood Reporter described Awe as a "real-life Indiana Jones,"

Whenever I come across this term, or 'inspiration for Indiana Jones', I'm pretty sure you're a twat with a hat.

And speaking of Dan Ackroyd, here's a Peruvian skull with looks more like an inspiration for the film's skull:

[www.world-mysteries.com image 252x361]


Your skulls look like they were inspired by Holbein.
 
2012-12-08 12:22:17 AM
Isn't the guy more or less admitting what everyone's known for years: the "crystal skulls" found in Peru are all fakes?
 
2012-12-08 12:49:12 AM
He should sue H.R. Giger first...
 
2012-12-08 12:52:36 AM
The only thing I have to add to this is that my Anthropology professor leads a field school in Belize, so that's where I'll be for part of next summer.
 
2012-12-08 01:09:07 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Isn't the guy more or less admitting what everyone's known for years: the "crystal skulls" found in Peru are all fakes?


Well, they're real skulls made of crystal, if that's what you mean by "fake." They're probably not Incan or Mayan, and they're certainly not made by space aliens. There's no record of them ever existing before the first one was "found" in the 1930's, so they're "fake" in that sense. Nobody ever discovered one in a pre-Colombian site that wasn't badly compromised or trashed. And nobody had really given them much thought since the 1980's when there was a big alien crystal skull craze, till the Indiana Jones movie.

Probably this is just a sad attempt to make them relevant again; if they ever were before.
 
2012-12-08 01:52:59 AM
data.whicdn.com
Belize
 
2012-12-08 01:56:34 AM
Pretty sure you can't sue over a fictional item that you don't even have a claim on.
 
2012-12-08 03:38:53 AM
They don't know what they've got!
 
2012-12-08 05:15:21 AM

JosephFinn: Mitchell-Hedges Skull:

[s2.hubimg.com image 520x390]

Indiana Jones skull:

[gabtor.files.wordpress.com image 432x324]

Sure, totally the same thing. Right.


I see this has been covered, and I doubt I would have made the effort to post inline images, so... good job.

Seriously, aside from having the vague shape of a face on the front they look nothing alike. For that matter, even the faces are significantly different. The Lucas skull has a lower jaw, the M-H skull does not. The Lucas skull's eye sockets look alien, the M-H skull's eye sockets look human. The Lucas skull includes carvings that show the separation between skull bones, the M-H skull does not. The ear region is different. The nose socket is different. The parietal and occipital regions are VERY different.

The only things they have in common are the name, the color, and the fact that they're both fake.
 
2012-12-08 08:08:35 AM
So this guy is effectively suing Disney. Good luck with that.
 
2012-12-08 08:59:42 AM
This has nothing to do with Lucasfilms new deep pockets at Disney, nope. No-sir-ee. (Not that they were poor to begin with).
 
2012-12-08 09:38:36 AM
As a Belizean, how am I supposed to feel about this?
 
2012-12-08 09:45:53 AM

Gyrfalcon: Dwight_Yeast: Isn't the guy more or less admitting what everyone's known for years: the "crystal skulls" found in Peru are all fakes?

Well, they're real skulls made of crystal, if that's what you mean by "fake." They're probably not Incan or Mayan, and they're certainly not made by space aliens. There's no record of them ever existing before the first one was "found" in the 1930's, so they're "fake" in that sense. Nobody ever discovered one in a pre-Colombian site that wasn't badly compromised or trashed. And nobody had really given them much thought since the 1980's when there was a big alien crystal skull craze, till the Indiana Jones movie.

Probably this is just a sad attempt to make them relevant again; if they ever were before.


Spoken just like someone who's part of the CONSPIRACY!

GungFu: FTFA: The Hollywood Reporter described Awe as a "real-life Indiana Jones,"

Whenever I come across this term, or 'inspiration for Indiana Jones', I'm pretty sure you're a twat with a hat.

And speaking of Dan Ackroyd, here's a Peruvian skull with looks more like an inspiration for the film's skull:

[www.world-mysteries.com image 252x361]


Are the elongated skulls legitimate? And if so, has anyone figured out what, if any, benefits there were (other than a cosmetic modification)?
 
2012-12-08 10:24:10 AM
Can you actually win an infringement case for copying a historical object? I mean surely the discoverer. Of an object doesn't deserve any rights, it's not like they made i- oh.
 
2012-12-08 10:35:11 AM

larrimo: As a Belizean, how am I supposed to feel about this?


About the same as if your Belikin was a couple degrees too warm.
 
2012-12-08 10:47:54 AM

born_yesterday: Gyrfalcon: Dwight_Yeast: Isn't the guy more or less admitting what everyone's known for years: the "crystal skulls" found in Peru are all fakes?

Well, they're real skulls made of crystal, if that's what you mean by "fake." They're probably not Incan or Mayan, and they're certainly not made by space aliens. There's no record of them ever existing before the first one was "found" in the 1930's, so they're "fake" in that sense. Nobody ever discovered one in a pre-Colombian site that wasn't badly compromised or trashed. And nobody had really given them much thought since the 1980's when there was a big alien crystal skull craze, till the Indiana Jones movie.

Probably this is just a sad attempt to make them relevant again; if they ever were before.

Spoken just like someone who's part of the CONSPIRACY!

GungFu: FTFA: The Hollywood Reporter described Awe as a "real-life Indiana Jones,"

Whenever I come across this term, or 'inspiration for Indiana Jones', I'm pretty sure you're a twat with a hat.

And speaking of Dan Ackroyd, here's a Peruvian skull with looks more like an inspiration for the film's skull:

[www.world-mysteries.com image 252x361]

Are the elongated skulls legitimate? And if so, has anyone figured out what, if any, benefits there were (other than a cosmetic modification)?


Yes, they very much are real and many differnt, seperate societies all over the world developed the practice.
It's belived to be mostly a cosmetic practice. But it helped to identify tribal affiliatins, determain social status and tribale hierarchy, as the larger your noggin, the smarter you were precieved to be and closer to the spiritual world.

That, or they were trying to look like our extraterristrial overlords.
 
2012-12-08 11:39:32 AM
IIRC Disney said they assigned a $0 value to the Indiana Jones part of Lucasfilm, because they can't easily exploit the property with distribution rights still tied up with Paramount.
 
2012-12-08 11:58:58 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Isn't the guy more or less admitting what everyone's known for years: the "crystal skulls" found in Peru are all fakes?


That's because they could,nt cut against the grain or something with the available tools?
 
2012-12-08 12:44:41 PM
I thought that guys name looked familiar so I went back through my old recorded programs and there he was, he archaeologist swimming into one of the supposed entrances to hell.

I'm sure he's legit.
 
2012-12-08 01:38:24 PM
I liked "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull". There, I said it.
 
2012-12-08 03:26:31 PM

Bith Set Me Up: I liked "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull". There, I said it.


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-08 03:39:43 PM
Also, are they going to sue the makers of House 2: The Second Story?

/Embaressed that I still remember that turkey
 
2012-12-08 03:43:49 PM

ScouserDuck: larrimo: As a Belizean, how am I supposed to feel about this?

About the same as if your Belikin was a couple degrees too warm.


Doesnt work for me, as I don't drink alcohol... but i see where you are going with this...
 
2012-12-08 06:44:04 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Bith Set Me Up: I liked "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull". There, I said it.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 240x232]


Godddamn that gif freaks me out every time
 
2012-12-08 08:18:27 PM

Mega Steve: B.L.Z. Bub: chewielouie: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?

It was a movie released in 2008, you may have heard of it...

Much like Highlander 2, I try and forget it exists


Much like Highlander I, I watch it with the commentary by Mike, Servo and Crow. Purchased from rifftrax.com, if you are new to Fark and are unaware that the MST3K guys are still riffing movies. They ran out of the classic Golden Turkey movies and now they're just riffing Hollywood.
 
2012-12-08 08:25:53 PM
This is stupid. The news is stupid.

One, the skull in the movie is an alien skull with a type of head boarding look that has nothing to do with Belize. There are tribes that practice it elsewhere, however.

Two, the original find by the archaelogist's daughter was a plant made by her father for her to find on her birthday. The skull was not a real native artifact, it was a fake made in Europe.

Three, all of the crystal skulls are fakes including the four in the British Museum collections. They were made in Germany in the 1800s by skilled craftsmen using polishing techniques unavailable to North American natives.

This is New Age urban legend piled higher and deeper.

Also, does this guy own the skull in question or the rights (if any) to representations of it? After all, if it was a true archaelogical find, it is the collective property of the human race, not the finder and his family or heirs and assigns. Who owns the pyramids? Who owns the Clovis culture arrow heads? Well, Native Americans may own those even if it is proven they were made by Europeans who entered America across the Ice Age ice flows, hunting the seal and the walrus herds that bore their young there.

But as a rule, you can't sue if you don't own the rights and are thus subjec to some damages yourself. Does this guy? How? Why? It's pure BS as far as I can see.
 
2012-12-08 09:23:41 PM

brantgoose: Much like Highlander I, I watch it with the commentary by Mike, Servo and Crow. Purchased from rifftrax.com, if you are new to Fark and are unaware that the MST3K guys are still riffing movies. They ran out of the classic Golden Turkey movies and now they're just riffing Hollywood.


Rifftrax is great. Riffing on old 50s movies like they did in MST3K is like shooting fish in a barrel but when they go after movies like Twilight it's much more hilarious.

But Highlander by itself is pretty cool. Just forget anything after it.
 
2012-12-10 07:16:04 AM

StoPPeRmobile: Dwight_Yeast: Isn't the guy more or less admitting what everyone's known for years: the "crystal skulls" found in Peru are all fakes?

That's because they could,nt cut against the grain or something with the available tools?


Possible, but I don't see that as a huge stumbling block. Most of the major problems have already been mentioned in the thread and have to do with the lack of any archaeological record and -most importantly- that they have no purpose in Aztec or Maya society. If they were important or venerated there would be at least oblique mention of them in the records those cultures left, and there's nothing there.
 
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