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(KATU)   And so it begins. First marijuana tours of Washington's Columbia River Gorge now taking reservations. BYO Cheetos   (katu.com) divider line 119
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2012-12-07 04:37:01 PM  
Just what we need - a bunch of high motherfarkers falling off Beacon Rock. That trail is sketchy enough without weed...
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-07 04:39:39 PM  
That's daring the feds to come and get him. He's promoting marijuana use a lot more than concert organizers targeted by the RAVE act. He'd better be too poor to make asset forfeiture worthwhile.
 
2012-12-07 04:41:18 PM  
Hooray for carcinogen and fungus inhalation!
 
2012-12-07 04:53:18 PM  

netizencain: Hooray for carcinogen and fungus inhalation!


Yer harshin my mellow, dude.
 
2012-12-07 04:59:25 PM  
Sounds like a creative way to get a visit from the DEA. They barely tolerate medical marijuana. How hard do you think they will come down on any business that sets up shop to facilitate recreational use? Also, how do you supply a business like that and stay under the state possession limits? Have fun in prison.
 
2012-12-07 05:00:41 PM  

netizencain: Hooray for carcinogen and fungus inhalation!


"Through many detailed experiments, handily summarised in this recent article in the journal Nature Reviews Cancer, scientists have discovered that various cannabinoids (both natural and synthetic) have a wide range of effects in the lab, including:

* Triggering cell death, through a mechanism called apoptosis
* Stopping cells from dividing
* Preventing new blood vessels from growing into tumours
* Reducing the chances of cancer cells spreading through the body, by stopping cells from moving or invading neighbouring tissue
* Speeding up the cell's internal 'waste disposal machine' - a process known as autophagy - which can lead to cell death

Link

/But please, thrill us with your acumen
 
2012-12-07 05:03:37 PM  

netizencain: Hooray for carcinogen and fungus inhalation!


Troll harder.
 
2012-12-07 05:16:14 PM  
"if you look out the left side of the van, you'll notice we're not in a van, or in a vehicle...wait...we're in my living room....i mean...i'm in my living room"
 
2012-12-07 05:17:02 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: "Through many detailed experiments, handily summarised in this recent article in the journal Nature Reviews Cancer, scientists have discovered that various cannabinoids (both natural and synthetic) have a wide range of effects in the lab, including:

* Triggering cell death, through a mechanism called apoptosis
* Stopping cells from dividing
* Preventing new blood vessels from growing into tumours
* Reducing the chances of cancer cells spreading through the body, by stopping cells from moving or invading neighbouring tissue
* Speeding up the cell's internal 'waste disposal machine' - a process known as autophagy - which can lead to cell death



that is just freaking awesome! And it gets you high!
 
2012-12-07 05:19:21 PM  

EatTheWorld: thisisyourbrainonFark: "Through many detailed experiments, handily summarised in this recent article in the journal Nature Reviews Cancer, scientists have discovered that various cannabinoids (both natural and synthetic) have a wide range of effects in the lab, including:

* Triggering cell death, through a mechanism called apoptosis
* Stopping cells from dividing
* Preventing new blood vessels from growing into tumours
* Reducing the chances of cancer cells spreading through the body, by stopping cells from moving or invading neighbouring tissue
* Speeding up the cell's internal 'waste disposal machine' - a process known as autophagy - which can lead to cell death


that is just freaking awesome! And it gets you high!


won't someone think of the sick children!
 
2012-12-07 05:20:14 PM  

EatTheWorld: thisisyourbrainonFark: "Through many detailed experiments, handily summarised in this recent article in the journal Nature Reviews Cancer, scientists have discovered that various cannabinoids (both natural and synthetic) have a wide range of effects in the lab, including:

* Triggering cell death, through a mechanism called apoptosis
* Stopping cells from dividing
* Preventing new blood vessels from growing into tumours
* Reducing the chances of cancer cells spreading through the body, by stopping cells from moving or invading neighbouring tissue
* Speeding up the cell's internal 'waste disposal machine' - a process known as autophagy - which can lead to cell death


that is just freaking awesome! And it gets you high!


Sadly it appears it's strictly the cannaboid molecules the brainiacs are studying. Not the smoking, ingesting, whathaveyou. Still promising, me thinks.
 
2012-12-07 05:29:33 PM  

sammyk: Sounds like a creative way to get a visit from the DEA. They barely tolerate medical marijuana. How hard do you think they will come down on any business that sets up shop to facilitate recreational use? Also, how do you supply a business like that and stay under the state possession limits? Have fun in prison.


You're a real kick in the pants aren't ya?
 
2012-12-07 07:06:27 PM  
To awesome
 
2012-12-07 07:07:06 PM  
won't someone think of the rape??
 
2012-12-07 07:08:59 PM  
www.feistees.com



/I know that's Oregon
//Too high to care
 
2012-12-07 07:12:04 PM  

Elzar: Just what we need - a bunch of high motherfarkers falling off Beacon Rock. That trail is sketchy enough without weed...


I thought it had pretty good safety precautions in place both underfoot and in terms of railings, but yeah it is steep as hell and morons will fall off if high when climbing.

Climbed it last summer; one of many awesome things on that trip. I wish I could afford to go back every couple of years.
 
2012-12-07 07:12:57 PM  

sammyk: Sounds like a creative way to get a visit from the DEA. They barely tolerate medical marijuana. How hard do you think they will come down on any business that sets up shop to facilitate recreational use? Also, how do you supply a business like that and stay under the state possession limits? Have fun in prison.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-07 07:13:14 PM  
OK, if you'll look to your right, you'll see a weed. Off to your left, you'll see...well, another weed. They're pretty much all weeds. Hence the name.
 
2012-12-07 07:14:57 PM  
ZAZ

That's daring the feds to come and get him. He's promoting marijuana use a lot more than concert organizers targeted by the RAVE act. He'd better be too poor to make asset forfeiture worthwhile.

Well thankfully obamessiah is a drug user as well and would never persecute folks doing exactly what he did(does)


// can't legislate morality, right libs?
 
2012-12-07 07:18:29 PM  
hey, have you seen the gorge?

Ever seen the gorge, ON WEED!?
 
2012-12-07 07:18:44 PM  
It's still illegal to grow and distribute marijuana until the state sets up licensing and taxation guidelines, so for the next year he'll need a BYOBud policy rather than including it in the cost.
 
2012-12-07 07:20:52 PM  
 
2012-12-07 07:23:11 PM  
To legalize
 
2012-12-07 07:24:10 PM  

ZAZ: That's daring the feds to come and get him. He's promoting marijuana use a lot more than concert organizers targeted by the RAVE act. He'd better be too poor to make asset forfeiture worthwhile.


That was my first thought: just as 90% of the membership of the old CPUSA was FBI dorks, most of his reservations will be snapped up by DEA drones. Your tax dollars in action.

I cannot see the narcocrats ever giving up. They're still in thrall to Harry Anslinger's ghost.
 
2012-12-07 07:25:02 PM  
It's like a bar hopping charter bus except it involves more Cheetos and nobody has to piss in a bucket in the back seat.
 
2012-12-07 07:25:31 PM  
Why is he so sweaty?
 
2012-12-07 07:25:40 PM  
There aint nothing up here

you cant go to the gas station and buy it

aint nothing figured out
 
2012-12-07 07:26:25 PM  
No HERO tag?
 
2012-12-07 07:30:04 PM  

SpeedyBB: ZAZ: That's daring the feds to come and get him. He's promoting marijuana use a lot more than concert organizers targeted by the RAVE act. He'd better be too poor to make asset forfeiture worthwhile.

That was my first thought: just as 90% of the membership of the old CPUSA was FBI dorks, most of his reservations will be snapped up by DEA drones. Your tax dollars in action.

I cannot see the narcocrats ever giving up. They're still in thrall to Harry Anslinger's ghost.


Yes, we need to De-Anslinger now, and I mean NOW, stat, as it were, quite, just now, thank you, world...

De-Anslinger.

I like it.

Rinse and repeat.

Do it now.

Make peace.

It's a start...
 
2012-12-07 07:30:24 PM  

OnlyM3: ZAZ

That's daring the feds to come and get him. He's promoting marijuana use a lot more than concert organizers targeted by the RAVE act. He'd better be too poor to make asset forfeiture worthwhile.
Well thankfully obamessiah is a drug user as well and would never persecute folks doing exactly what he did(does). 


// can't legislate morality, right libs?


Well, except that his marijuana stances are one of several things actual liberals (as opposed to the centrists that compose most of the Democratic party) criticize him on fairly frequently. Y'know, kinda blowing the "Obamessiah" meme out of the water in the process?
 
2012-12-07 07:31:07 PM  
And it's high time they did.
 
2012-12-07 07:33:33 PM  

Indubitably: SpeedyBB: ZAZ: That's daring the feds to come and get him. He's promoting marijuana use a lot more than concert organizers targeted by the RAVE act. He'd better be too poor to make asset forfeiture worthwhile.

That was my first thought: just as 90% of the membership of the old CPUSA was FBI dorks, most of his reservations will be snapped up by DEA drones. Your tax dollars in action.

I cannot see the narcocrats ever giving up. They're still in thrall to Harry Anslinger's ghost.

Yes, we need to De-Anslinger now, and I mean NOW, stat, as it were, quite, just now, thank you, world...

De-Anslinger.

I like it.

Rinse and repeat.

Do it now.

Make peace.

It's a start...


P.S. All taxes associated with legalize should fund early education efforts, i.e. preschools. Feed the children and protect them always from harm...
 
2012-12-07 07:35:00 PM  

OnlyM3: // can't legislate morality, right libs?


NotSureIfSerious.jpg
 
2012-12-07 07:36:12 PM  

Indubitably: Indubitably: SpeedyBB: ZAZ: That's daring the feds to come and get him. He's promoting marijuana use a lot more than concert organizers targeted by the RAVE act. He'd better be too poor to make asset forfeiture worthwhile.

That was my first thought: just as 90% of the membership of the old CPUSA was FBI dorks, most of his reservations will be snapped up by DEA drones. Your tax dollars in action.

I cannot see the narcocrats ever giving up. They're still in thrall to Harry Anslinger's ghost.

Yes, we need to De-Anslinger now, and I mean NOW, stat, as it were, quite, just now, thank you, world...

De-Anslinger.

I like it.

Rinse and repeat.

Do it now.

Make peace.

It's a start...

P.S. All taxes associated with legalize should fund early education efforts, i.e. preschools. Feed the children and protect them always from harm...


P.P.S. This needs to be more American than killing people in foreign lands or putting them in prison for living, yo. Fund it now.
 
2012-12-07 07:38:00 PM  

fatassbastard: OnlyM3: // can't legislate morality, right libs?

NotSureIfSerious.jpg


To reply to OnlyM3 embed: Seriously? How's yer Blue Law, Constable?
 
2012-12-07 07:38:36 PM  
*snikt*
 
2012-12-07 07:41:00 PM  
Deft use of the Spliffy tag, fo drizzle.
 
2012-12-07 07:44:08 PM  

OnlyM3: Well thankfully obamessiah is a drug user as well and would never persecute folks doing exactly what he did(does).
// can't legislate morality, right libs?


Are you an idiot?

OnlyM3

Oh yeah right. Carry on.
 
2012-12-07 07:44:38 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: netizencain: Hooray for carcinogen and fungus inhalation!

"Through many detailed experiments, handily summarised in this recent article in the journal Nature Reviews Cancer, scientists have discovered that various cannabinoids (both natural and synthetic) have a wide range of effects in the lab, including:

* Triggering cell death, through a mechanism called apoptosis
* Stopping cells from dividing
* Preventing new blood vessels from growing into tumours
* Reducing the chances of cancer cells spreading through the body, by stopping cells from moving or invading neighbouring tissue
* Speeding up the cell's internal 'waste disposal machine' - a process known as autophagy - which can lead to cell death

Link

/But please, thrill us with your acumen

But claims that this body of preclinical research is solid "proof" that cannabis or cannabinoids can cure cancer is highly misleading to patients and their families, and builds a false picture of the state of progress in this area.

For example, some researchers have found that although high doses of THC can kill cancer cells, they also harm crucial blood vessel cells, although this may help their anti-cancer effect by preventing blood vessels growing into a tumour. And under some circumstances, cannabinoids can actually encourage cancer cells to grow, or have different effects depending on the dosage and levels of cannabinoid receptors present on the cancer cells. [Edited for clarity and to add reference - KA 27/07/12]

Furthermore, cancer cells can develop resistance to cannabinoids and start growing again, although this can be got round by blocking a certain molecular pathway in the cells known as ALK.

The biggest issue is that there isn't enough evidence to show that they can treat cancer in people, although research is still ongoing around the world.

 
2012-12-07 07:45:06 PM  

LordJiro: Well, except that his marijuana stances are one of several things actual liberals (as opposed to the centrists that compose most of the Democratic party) criticize him on fairly frequently. Y'know, kinda blowing the "Obamessiah" meme out of the water in the process?


Yeah, the liberals are really tough on Obama; you can tell because they ran a primary challenge against him in order to force him to address their issues.
 
2012-12-07 07:45:21 PM  

sammyk: Sounds like a creative way to get a visit from the DEA. They barely tolerate medical marijuana. How hard do you think they will come down on any business that sets up shop to facilitate recreational use? Also, how do you supply a business like that and stay under the state possession limits? Have fun in prison.


Well, if it's a corporation, then obviously the corporation is simply fined, since you can't arrest a corporation. Hey, it worked for the bankers.

/Washington resident
//Not a pothead
 
2012-12-07 07:45:49 PM  

OnlyM3: // can't legislate morality, right libs?


Doesn't stop the right from trying constantly.
 
2012-12-07 07:47:35 PM  
Were do I file to get Concession stand?
 
2012-12-07 07:47:49 PM  
Recent tour photo.
www.epmonthly.com
 
2012-12-07 07:48:32 PM  

fusillade762: OnlyM3: // can't legislate morality, right libs?

Doesn't stop the right from trying constantly.


What's morality got to do with this?
 
2012-12-07 07:48:37 PM  
You can almost feel the first cracks in the dam opening.
 
2012-12-07 07:49:20 PM  
Just Imagine the impotent rage the conservative cops must feel now when they cant harass and imprison peaceful pot smokers anymore! LOL

Suck it, piggies, and the rest of you dumb fu*ks who still think prohibition is a good idea.

/Wish I could smoke
 
2012-12-07 07:50:49 PM  

D_Evans45: Just Imagine the impotent rage the conservative cops must feel now when they cant harass and imprison peaceful pot smokers anymore! LOL

Suck it, piggies, and the rest of you dumb fu*ks who still think prohibition is a good idea.

/Wish I could smoke

To liberty

 
2012-12-07 07:52:11 PM  
Surely there is a picture of that poor man that doesn't have him completely sweaty.
 
2012-12-07 07:55:45 PM  

Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: OnlyM3: // can't legislate morality, right libs?

Doesn't stop the right from trying constantly.

What's morality got to do with this?


Nothing. I was just taunting the troll.
 
2012-12-07 07:58:27 PM  

Verzio: LordJiro: Well, except that his marijuana stances are one of several things actual liberals (as opposed to the centrists that compose most of the Democratic party) criticize him on fairly frequently. Y'know, kinda blowing the "Obamessiah" meme out of the water in the process?

Yeah, the liberals are really tough on Obama; you can tell because they ran a primary challenge against him in order to force him to address their issues.


Eh, sitting presidents almost never face primary challenges, it says nothing about how libs feel about how Obama is doing.
 
2012-12-07 08:02:13 PM  
Is this guy aware that what he is doing is highly illegal in the state of Washington? Why would he admit to criminal actions to reporters like this?

You have to be licensed to sell marijuana in Washington, and nobody is licensed yet. So yeah... Kinda breaking the law there buddy, and while the police are looking the other way right now at people smoking in public, that doesn't mean they are ignoring people selling the stuff, especially ones doing so in such open and blatant disregard for the law.
 
2012-12-07 08:03:03 PM  

D_Evans45: Just Imagine the impotent rage the conservative cops must feel now when they cant harass and imprison peaceful pot smokers anymore! LOL

Suck it, piggies, and the rest of you dumb fu*ks who still think prohibition is a good idea.

/Wish I could smoke


Uh, as someone who likes to get potted up, this is bullshiat, at least where I live. Cops are not looking to cite people with small amounts of cannabis (they are never arrested). Most cases involving small amounts have a larger crime, like DUI, attached to them, and the possession aspect is usually dismissed if the accused takes a plea.
As a Coloradan, I voted for 64, but I think little will change, i.e., can't smoke in public, in vehicles, etc., but what is new is the legality of growing multiple plants.

/potted
//up
 
2012-12-07 08:08:21 PM  

fusillade762: Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: OnlyM3: // can't legislate morality, right libs?

Doesn't stop the right from trying constantly.

What's morality got to do with this?

Nothing. I was just taunting the troll.


Yeah, I know. I don't answer trolls except through someone else. It encourages them.
 
2012-12-07 08:10:53 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: D_Evans45: Just Imagine the impotent rage the conservative cops must feel.

Uh, as someone who likes to get potted up, this is bullshiat, at least where I live.



No conservative cops in all of Washington? We've had quasi-legal pot since 1996 in California and even we have some cops with hard-ons for busting people with weed.

/I love it
 
2012-12-07 08:12:48 PM  

arentol: Is this guy aware that what he is doing is highly illegal in the state of Washington? Why would he admit to criminal actions to reporters like this?

You have to be licensed to sell marijuana in Washington, and nobody is licensed yet. So yeah... Kinda breaking the law there buddy, and while the police are looking the other way right now at people smoking in public, that doesn't mean they are ignoring people selling the stuff, especially ones doing so in such open and blatant disregard for the law.


I'm sure he's aware. FTA mentions going to various of his friends' houses. It's possible each of them has an ounce or less, and that the fee is for the cost of the tour, with the weed being "given away" gratis to tour members. Like if I were homebrewing again, I couldn't sell my beer, but I could charge $5 for an empty cup and give the beer away for free.
 
2012-12-07 08:13:23 PM  
er, 'TFA'
 
2012-12-07 08:16:31 PM  

buckler: arentol: Is this guy aware that what he is doing is highly illegal in the state of Washington? Why would he admit to criminal actions to reporters like this?

You have to be licensed to sell marijuana in Washington, and nobody is licensed yet. So yeah... Kinda breaking the law there buddy, and while the police are looking the other way right now at people smoking in public, that doesn't mean they are ignoring people selling the stuff, especially ones doing so in such open and blatant disregard for the law.

I'm sure he's aware. FTA mentions going to various of his friends' houses. It's possible each of them has an ounce or less, and that the fee is for the cost of the tour, with the weed being "given away" gratis to tour members. Like if I were homebrewing again, I couldn't sell my beer, but I could charge $5 for an empty cup and give the beer away for free.


Precisely. Nothing illegal and he'll make a fortune.
 
2012-12-07 08:18:10 PM  

D_Evans45: thisisyourbrainonFark: D_Evans45: Just Imagine the impotent rage the conservative cops must feel.

Uh, as someone who likes to get potted up, this is bullshiat, at least where I live.


No conservative cops in all of Washington? We've had quasi-legal pot since 1996 in California and even we have some cops with hard-ons for busting people with weed.

/I love it


I love it, as well, but again, not true. Do you really think even the most conservative cops are walking up to people and demanding that they empty their pockets to check for cannabis and paraphernalia? I deal with cops and prosecutors on a regular basis, and, since 64 passed, have asked them about this: There is always another crime, not just small amounts of weed.

/passes the Steve Doocy on the left-hand side
 
2012-12-07 08:21:36 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Sadly it appears it's strictly the cannaboid molecules the brainiacs are studying. Not the smoking, ingesting, whathaveyou. Still promising, me thinks.


THIS. Please don't claim pot smoking prevents cancer, or lung disease. It's been shown it doesn't. Vaporization or ingestion is much safer.

thisisyourbrainonFark: netizencain: Hooray for carcinogen and fungus inhalation!

"Through many detailed experiments, handily summarised in this recent article in the journal Nature Reviews Cancer, scientists have discovered that various cannabinoids (both natural and synthetic) have a wide range of effects in the lab, including:

* Triggering cell death, through a mechanism called apoptosis
* Stopping cells from dividing
* Preventing new blood vessels from growing into tumours
* Reducing the chances of cancer cells spreading through the body, by stopping cells from moving or invading neighbouring tissue
* Speeding up the cell's internal 'waste disposal machine' - a process known as autophagy - which can lead to cell death

Link

/But please, thrill us with your acumen


You do know there's a complete difference between In Vitro, and In vivo studies, right? Lots of compounds that show in vitro effects on cancer cell lines are completely useless in vivo.

Cancer woo is shameful. Don't promote it.
 
2012-12-07 08:23:05 PM  
I have to agree with the people calling him a criminal and an idiot. You cannot distribute marijuana without a license. The liquor control board isn't even close to being able to license yet. Plus, smoking in public is prohibited anyway.

The disregard for this new law is amazing. Can't people just wait a year and buy it legally? Are you really going to ruin 40 years effort to change these laws by completely ignoring the restrictions put into them that allowed them to pass? It's just asking for a backlash against it. Go to the liquor control board's website, sign up for alerts and you can see history in the making. There is no need to jump the gun.
 
2012-12-07 08:23:29 PM  

OnlyM3: Well thankfully obamessiah is a drug user as well and would never persecute folks doing exactly what he did(does). 


// can't legislate morality, right libs?


Youtube video as evidence mixed with right winged political derp. It's nice to see you're still the same old you, M3.
 
2012-12-07 08:25:09 PM  

adenosine: I have to agree with the people calling him a criminal and an idiot. You cannot distribute marijuana without a license. The liquor control board isn't even close to being able to license yet. Plus, smoking in public is prohibited anyway.

The disregard for this new law is amazing. Can't people just wait a year and buy it legally? Are you really going to ruin 40 years effort to change these laws by completely ignoring the restrictions put into them that allowed them to pass? It's just asking for a backlash against it. Go to the liquor control board's website, sign up for alerts and you can see history in the making. There is no need to jump the gun.


Not to mention he's just poking the dynamite monkey that is the FDA to come down on him for selling an unapproved substance who's only official legitimate use (According to the FDA, that is.) is as an appetite induction agent in Chemotherapy and HIV Wasting Syndrome.
 
2012-12-07 08:29:59 PM  
Anyone know how much pot costs (or maybe will cost in the near future as people get set up) at a store vs on the street now in one of the jurisdictions where it's become legal? I'm even wondering if in places like Washington where it just became completely legal as opposed to only for "medical" use whether it disappears from the street entirely or at least trafficking goes way down because people would rather buy it from a legit business than from random sleazeballs selling stuff of unknown quality.
 
2012-12-07 08:30:13 PM  
It's good to see that capitalism is alive and well.
 
2012-12-07 08:36:50 PM  
I strongly recommend the book "Pot, Inc." by Greg Campbell. It's a good, honest, and by the end emotional book about Colorado's move to decriminalize weed for medicinal purposes, the precursor to this year's legalization vote.
 
2012-12-07 08:39:48 PM  
So does Expedia bundle this type or tour yet or do I really have to do it myself? I've smoked entirely too much tonight to make any reasonable vacation decisions.

Or maybe this is the best time to make vacation decisions....
 
2012-12-07 08:43:44 PM  

megarian: So does Expedia bundle this type or tour yet or do I really have to do it myself? I've smoked entirely too much tonight to make any reasonable vacation decisions.

Or maybe this is the best time to make vacation decisions....


...this type of tour...

Wow.
 
2012-12-07 08:47:54 PM  

PlatinumDragon: You can almost feel the first cracks in the dam opening.


This! Quick, somebody make a joke about conservatives putting their fingers in a dike.

adenosine: I have to agree with the people calling him a criminal and an idiot. You cannot distribute marijuana without a license. The liquor control board isn't even close to being able to license yet. Plus, smoking in public is prohibited anyway.

The disregard for this new law is amazing. Can't people just wait a year and buy it legally? Are you really going to ruin 40 years effort to change these laws by completely ignoring the restrictions put into them that allowed them to pass? It's just asking for a backlash against it. Go to the liquor control board's website, sign up for alerts and you can see history in the making. There is no need to jump the gun.


If only there existed a thing that changes your perception of time, makes waiting for something easier, or that can aid in changing your perspective.
 
2012-12-07 08:49:07 PM  

buckler: arentol: Is this guy aware that what he is doing is highly illegal in the state of Washington? Why would he admit to criminal actions to reporters like this?

You have to be licensed to sell marijuana in Washington, and nobody is licensed yet. So yeah... Kinda breaking the law there buddy, and while the police are looking the other way right now at people smoking in public, that doesn't mean they are ignoring people selling the stuff, especially ones doing so in such open and blatant disregard for the law.

I'm sure he's aware. FTA mentions going to various of his friends' houses. It's possible each of them has an ounce or less, and that the fee is for the cost of the tour, with the weed being "given away" gratis to tour members. Like if I were homebrewing again, I couldn't sell my beer, but I could charge $5 for an empty cup and give the beer away for free.


I'm not so sure he's aware and I don't think the law works like that. If you're advertising a weed tour, and say that weed is included in the price, then you're selling weed. If you advertise it as a regular tour which is weed friendly, and then give out weed along the way, that would be fine.
 
2012-12-07 08:52:39 PM  
I wrote a job application for a vaporizer company while stoned out of my mind one time... basically exactly like you think it would look like. They contacted me: Thanks, but no thanks, PS - we all got a good laugh out of it.
 
2012-12-07 08:56:31 PM  

OnlyM3: // can't legislate morality, right libs?


Is this where I point out that every single law written during the whole of human history is legislated morality? Tax codes, Roe v. Wade, oil platform regulation, education mandate, etc. are allllllllll morality-turned-statute. That's what law is.
 
2012-12-07 08:59:31 PM  
this whole thing is freaking awesome. and it's about goddamn time.
 
2012-12-07 09:05:24 PM  
jjorsett: trafficking goes way down because people would rather buy it from a legit business than from random sleazeballs

In legal weed states, pot prices will plummet and quality will be that of medical standards. The only trafficking will be to children.

/won't anyone think of the children?
 
2012-12-07 09:07:22 PM  

Frederf: OnlyM3: // can't legislate morality, right libs?

Is this where I point out that every single law written during the whole of human history is legislated morality? Tax codes, Roe v. Wade, oil platform regulation, education mandate, etc. are allllllllll morality-turned-statute. That's what law is.


But what about that one law that says not to ki...no, wait. Well how about providing for a comm...hmm. fark. This changes everything. No large sodas or riding a motorcycle without a helmet for anyone, because morality!
 
2012-12-07 09:13:42 PM  
To embed
 
2012-12-07 09:16:57 PM  
Where's the Mountain Dew?
 
2012-12-07 09:19:06 PM  

Indubitably: To embed

Or not to embed.

 
2012-12-07 09:22:31 PM  
Cali needs to join the Left Coast revolution...stat!
 
2012-12-07 09:24:00 PM  
Walla walla bing bang
www.treecomics.com
 
2012-12-07 09:26:40 PM  

buckler: arentol: Is this guy aware that what he is doing is highly illegal in the state of Washington? Why would he admit to criminal actions to reporters like this?

You have to be licensed to sell marijuana in Washington, and nobody is licensed yet. So yeah... Kinda breaking the law there buddy, and while the police are looking the other way right now at people smoking in public, that doesn't mean they are ignoring people selling the stuff, especially ones doing so in such open and blatant disregard for the law.

I'm sure he's aware. FTA mentions going to various of his friends' houses. It's possible each of them has an ounce or less, and that the fee is for the cost of the tour, with the weed being "given away" gratis to tour members. Like if I were homebrewing again, I couldn't sell my beer, but I could charge $5 for an empty cup and give the beer away for free.


Charging for an empty cup won't fool the cops or the courts if they want to bust you.
 
2012-12-07 09:28:54 PM  
I wonder how many people have absolutely no understanding of how the new law works and are getting ready to just open up a shop somewhere and start selling to everyone.
 
2012-12-07 09:33:28 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: D_Evans45:

I love it, as well, but again, not true. Do you really think even the most conservative cops are walking up to people and demanding that they empty their pockets to check for cannabis and paraphernalia?



Oh shut up dumbass, you're just trying to be contrary, just like you were in the other pot thread a couple days ago. Where did I say the cops were walking up and pocket checking anyone? You gonna derp out again and start correcting grammar that doesnt need to be corrected?

/You must smoke some shiatty, shiatty weed
 
2012-12-07 09:35:29 PM  
Jument: Charging for an empty cup won't fool the cops or the courts.

Mayhaps the tour will visit eating and drinking establishments that don't charge for the freely shared herbs, but do very well in tips.
 
2012-12-07 09:36:26 PM  

D_Evans45: thisisyourbrainonFark: D_Evans45:

I love it, as well, but again, not true. Do you really think even the most conservative cops are walking up to people and demanding that they empty their pockets to check for cannabis and paraphernalia?


Oh shut up dumbass, you're just trying to be contrary, just like you were in the other pot thread a couple days ago. Where did I say the cops were walking up and pocket checking anyone? You gonna derp out again and start correcting grammar that doesnt need to be corrected?

/You must smoke some shiatty, shiatty weed


If I throw a dimebag, will you two fight over it? It could be like Slow-Motion Bumfights!
 
2012-12-07 09:44:12 PM  

BronyMedic: D_Evans45: ...

If I throw a dimebag, will you two fight over it? It could be like Slow-Motion Bumfights!



I don't smoke anymore, but this dude could probably use some of your weed. His obviously isn't doing the trick.

/Also, nobody says "dime bag" anymore
//You gotta like, get with the times bro
 
2012-12-07 09:51:25 PM  

NobleHam: buckler: arentol: Is this guy aware that what he is doing is highly illegal in the state of Washington? Why would he admit to criminal actions to reporters like this?

You have to be licensed to sell marijuana in Washington, and nobody is licensed yet. So yeah... Kinda breaking the law there buddy, and while the police are looking the other way right now at people smoking in public, that doesn't mean they are ignoring people selling the stuff, especially ones doing so in such open and blatant disregard for the law.

I'm sure he's aware. FTA mentions going to various of his friends' houses. It's possible each of them has an ounce or less, and that the fee is for the cost of the tour, with the weed being "given away" gratis to tour members. Like if I were homebrewing again, I couldn't sell my beer, but I could charge $5 for an empty cup and give the beer away for free.

I'm not so sure he's aware and I don't think the law works like that. If you're advertising a weed tour, and say that weed is included in the price, then you're selling weed. If you advertise it as a regular tour which is weed friendly, and then give out weed along the way, that would be fine.


Of for crissake. Some of you are paranoid and obtuse. The guy is conducting a tour, the price is for the tour. Weed samplings are complimentary gifts. He f*cked up by announcing to the media that the weed was included in the price; had he phrased it as complimentary samples it would have been better.
 
2012-12-07 09:58:21 PM  
Problem is giving it away is still illegal...
 
2012-12-07 10:06:35 PM  
WA's law is very strict. Heck, even medical marijuana laws in some other states are more loose than WA's, that is if you're a patient.

Not having any legal means to actually get the weed from someone and also not being able to grow your own kinda makes the whole thing a bit of a cock suck. If the feds somehow block the state from selling weed a year from now or whenever they attempt it, then the black market will continue to thrive as it does today. Then their new law will be more like decriminalization, rather than legalization.
 
2012-12-07 10:11:20 PM  
Fjornir: Problem is giving it away is still illegal.

No, it isn't. Not in legal weed state.
 
2012-12-07 10:12:53 PM  

adenosine: I have to agree with the people calling him a criminal and an idiot. You cannot distribute marijuana without a license. The liquor control board isn't even close to being able to license yet. Plus, smoking in public is prohibited anyway.

The disregard for this new law is amazing. Can't people just wait a year and buy it legally? Are you really going to ruin 40 years effort to change these laws by completely ignoring the restrictions put into them that allowed them to pass? It's just asking for a backlash against it. Go to the liquor control board's website, sign up for alerts and you can see history in the making. There is no need to jump the gun.


I don't know Spokane well, but people have been openly selling weed in PDX for at least since I got here in 95. Like, openly displayed and smoked right on the waterfront, with a precinct nearby. Seattle police haven't prioritized weed either. IMO, we've been disregarding the old law for a hell of a long time. We disregarded the medical law too. They aren't putting the genie back in the bottle this time. IMO, smoking some weed in public is just a small, reasonable reaction to the passage of this law, particularly when Seattle PD declares they will only issue warnings for now.

If the State makes it fairly easy to set up a new weed business, the feds won't be able to stop it. It'll be like playing whack-a-mole.
 
2012-12-07 10:19:53 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Most cases involving small amounts have a larger crime, like DUI, attached to them, and the possession aspect is usually dismissed if the accused takes a plea.


It's going to be fun to watch the pot-induced DUI cases stack up. I wonder how many people need to be killed on the roads by people under the influence of legally-smoled pot before this nonsense finally gets repealed. It's not going to work, folks. Just how stupid is the whole thing going to be allowed to get before you're willing to admit it?
 
2012-12-07 10:20:17 PM  

OnlyM3: ZAZ

That's daring the feds to come and get him. He's promoting marijuana use a lot more than concert organizers targeted by the RAVE act. He'd better be too poor to make asset forfeiture worthwhile.
Well thankfully obamessiah is a drug user as well and would never persecute folks doing exactly what he did(does). 


// can't legislate morality, right libs?


Ooooooo, he smoked some weed once, whoopdee-farking-doo. He's still doing better than the entirety of the right, who are desperate to destroy America out of hate and spite.

Besides, isn't legislating morality something that the right is constantly trying to do?

/might want to stop worshiping Obama as The Messiah, The Anointed One, etc, you might make your real God angry
//funny how much Republicans treat Obama like God and then scream that the left is the one doing it
 
2012-12-07 10:22:31 PM  

Fark Me To Tears: thisisyourbrainonFark: Most cases involving small amounts have a larger crime, like DUI, attached to them, and the possession aspect is usually dismissed if the accused takes a plea.

It's going to be fun to watch the pot alcohol-induced DUI cases stack up. I wonder how many people need to be killed on the roads by people under the influence of legally-smoled potdrunk alcohol before this nonsense finally gets repealed. It's not going to work, folks. Just how stupid is the whole thing going to be allowed to get before you're willing to admit it?


One dangerous mind-altering substance is fine, but another dangerous mind-altering substance is horrible and evil?
 
2012-12-07 10:31:24 PM  

Hale-Bopp: I wonder how many people have absolutely no understanding of how the new law works and are getting ready to just open up a shop somewhere and start selling to everyone.


A lot, probably; but they're stoned, so it won't come to anything.
 
2012-12-07 10:32:48 PM  

Fark Me To Tears: It's going to be fun to watch the pot-induced DUI cases stack up. I wonder how many people need to be killed on the roads by people under the influence of legally-smoled pot before this nonsense finally gets repealed. It's not going to work, folks. Just how stupid is the whole thing going to be allowed to get before you're willing to admit it?



There is no significant population waiting to rush out and try weed for the first time. There may be a few people here and there, but by and large everyone who wants to smoke pot already smokes pot. These laws were enacted so that existing potheads stop getting harassed for possessing trivial amounts. There is no huge population of potheads swerving around the roads and causing wrecks like drunk. Youre expecting way too much.
 
2012-12-07 10:49:10 PM  

D_Evans45: BronyMedic: D_Evans45: ...

If I throw a dimebag, will you two fight over it? It could be like Slow-Motion Bumfights!


I don't smoke anymore, but this dude could probably use some of your weed. His obviously isn't doing the trick.

/Also, nobody says "dime bag" anymore
//You gotta like, get with the times bro


Lutz. Logic sucks, eh?
 
2012-12-07 10:53:13 PM  

BronyMedic: Cancer woo is shameful. Don't promote it.


Lost a sister last year to two very painful forms of the disease. Didn't think I was promoting sham science, just saying some of it, from a layman's view, may be promising.
 
2012-12-07 11:00:37 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: BronyMedic: Cancer woo is shameful. Don't promote it.

Lost a sister last year to two very painful forms of the disease. Didn't think I was promoting sham science, just saying some of it, from a layman's view, may be promising.


I'm sorry to hear that. I've lost two in my family to cancer, and I had a scare with a pre-melanomic mole two years ago on my shoulders. (Kids, listen to your parents when they tell you to use sunscreen.)

I'm rather sensitive to Cancer Woo because a good friend of mine, and a damn fine Paramedic, used the Gearson diet instead of chemotherapy for an initially treatable cancer that became metastatic by the time he went for actual medical treatment.

You're not promoting a sham science, per say. There is a great amount of promise in cannabanoid research at the moment in a lot of aspects, especially pain control and cancer therapy. But the problem is promoting false hope, or giving credence to those who would do so. There exists a lot of woo right now around marijuana and it's use in medical care, versus what it is proven effective for, and weeding out the FUD from the non-FUD is challenging, simply because a LOT of the conditions that it's been touted as effective for (MS, Dementia, HIV (without wasting disease/syndrome - we know it's very safe, except a very small, specific population in which it's not - schizophrenia.), in reality there's not enough literature to support a position statement on.

And then, you have people who are slime of the earth - people like Gary Null, Mike Adams, and the like - who tout it as a cure for diseases. These people deserve a cockpunch.
 
2012-12-07 11:07:53 PM  

BronyMedic: thisisyourbrainonFark: BronyMedic: Cancer woo is shameful. Don't promote it.

Lost a sister last year to two very painful forms of the disease. Didn't think I was promoting sham science, just saying some of it, from a layman's view, may be promising.

I'm sorry to hear that. I've lost two in my family to cancer, and I had a scare with a pre-melanomic mole two years ago on my shoulders. (Kids, listen to your parents when they tell you to use sunscreen.)

I'm rather sensitive to Cancer Woo because a good friend of mine, and a damn fine Paramedic, used the Gearson diet instead of chemotherapy for an initially treatable cancer that became metastatic by the time he went for actual medical treatment.

You're not promoting a sham science, per say. There is a great amount of promise in cannabanoid research at the moment in a lot of aspects, especially pain control and cancer therapy. But the problem is promoting false hope, or giving credence to those who would do so. There exists a lot of woo right now around marijuana and it's use in medical care, versus what it is proven effective for, and weeding out the FUD from the non-FUD is challenging, simply because a LOT of the conditions that it's been touted as effective for (MS, Dementia, HIV (without wasting disease/syndrome - we know it's very safe, except a very small, specific population in which it's not - schizophrenia.), in reality there's not enough literature to support a position statement on.

And then, you have people who are slime of the earth - people like Gary Null, Mike Adams, and the like - who tout it as a cure for diseases. These people deserve a cockpunch.


Condolences as well. And I get your point about what to promote sans definitive results.

I think we can agree, fark cancer in its ear.
 
2012-12-07 11:26:23 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: thisisyourbrainonFark: Lutz. Logic sucks, eh?


It must suck for you, you appear to have a tenuous grasp at best. I don't really believe you even smoke weed. If you do smoke weed, your weed really, really sucks.


3.bp.blogspot.com

california.budtrader.com

www.medicalmarijuanablog.com

 
2012-12-07 11:29:35 PM  
Whoops, was that your bong rip?



encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com



t3.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-07 11:45:30 PM  

D_Evans45: [www.thenayshun.com image 400x349]

[www.cannabis-seeds.co.uk image 380x380]

[www.strainbrain.com image 800x600]

[boards.cannabis.com image 850x637]

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[www.fadedfools.com image 750x521]

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So how you doin'? I bake fantastic pies and cookies.

/eip.
 
2012-12-07 11:51:55 PM  

namegoeshere: The mayor of Ithaca just told the chief of police to ignore minor pot posession: I have directed the Ithaca Police Department to focus on other issues that will more effectively protect the public. Between dealers of hard drugs and stopping violent crime, our officers have more important things to be focusing on than low-level marijuana offenses."

So, yeah.


Yeah, that's how it is all over California, which is why the Feds have set up shop here - they need shops too, right?

I bet they'll really like moving their families to Washington (it's southern Arizona where no one wants to live and work, federally speaking).
 
2012-12-08 12:23:56 AM  

BronyMedic: Not to mention he's just poking the dynamite monkey that is the FDA to come down on him for selling an unapproved substance who's only official legitimate use (According to the FDA, that is.) is as an appetite induction agent in Chemotherapy and HIV Wasting Syndrome.


Right. Just like the FDA is going to come down on coffee shops for selling an unapproved substance full of a psychoactive drug.

Tell me how it's different, in ethical terms.
 
2012-12-08 12:27:14 AM  
$275? Sorry, but that seems a little, um, high.
 
2012-12-08 12:38:46 AM  

knobmaker: Right. Just like the FDA is going to come down on coffee shops for selling an unapproved substance full of a psychoactive drug.


You do realize that coffee is regarded as safe for human consumption by the FDA, right? It becomes different when you sell it "pure" or mixed in with other medicines ("No-Doze"), and that "pure" caffiene is considered a pharmaceutical agent that can only be marketed for conditions it's considered effective and approved for, right?

Marijuana, on the other hand, has been a Schedule I/Schedule II drug (Marinol) for most of the 20th and all of the 21st century. Medicinal dispensaries get away with selling it because they don't market it as safe and effective for treating an illness, disease, or condition, and it's treated as an "off-label" drug by the FDA for those purposes. It's illegal to advertise it, but not illegal for a doctor or intermediate practitioner to recommend for the condition.

On the other hand, the FDA can come down hard on commercial recreational sales of the drug because it was never approved for general sale as "safe for human consumption", and is not an OTC medication. In addition, it cannot fall under the realm of a "dietary supplement" because it is considered a prescription substance.

It doesn't matter about an ethical debate. Ethically, if you want to touch on it, there is a major problem with pushing substances for conditions it is not proven to be effective in treating by research. Nor was it intended to spark an ethical debate. I was meerly pointing out why I have said decriminalization is going to be FAR easier than retail sale for recreational use or commercialization as a recreational substance alongside grandfathered substances like ethanol and tobacco.
 
2012-12-08 12:39:07 AM  

AbbeySomeone: NobleHam: buckler: arentol: Is this guy aware that what he is doing is highly illegal in the state of Washington? Why would he admit to criminal actions to reporters like this?

You have to be licensed to sell marijuana in Washington, and nobody is licensed yet. So yeah... Kinda breaking the law there buddy, and while the police are looking the other way right now at people smoking in public, that doesn't mean they are ignoring people selling the stuff, especially ones doing so in such open and blatant disregard for the law.

I'm sure he's aware. FTA mentions going to various of his friends' houses. It's possible each of them has an ounce or less, and that the fee is for the cost of the tour, with the weed being "given away" gratis to tour members. Like if I were homebrewing again, I couldn't sell my beer, but I could charge $5 for an empty cup and give the beer away for free.

I'm not so sure he's aware and I don't think the law works like that. If you're advertising a weed tour, and say that weed is included in the price, then you're selling weed. If you advertise it as a regular tour which is weed friendly, and then give out weed along the way, that would be fine.

Of for crissake. Some of you are paranoid and obtuse. The guy is conducting a tour, the price is for the tour. Weed samplings are complimentary gifts. He f*cked up by announcing to the media that the weed was included in the price; had he phrased it as complimentary samples it would have been better.


Based on his appearance, his quotes in the article, and this^ other article, I don't get the sense that Robert Flatt has a very good concept of the new law. (Nor, from my research, does he have any prior experience running tours.) I don't claim to know all the ins and outs either, but I think if you advertise that the weed is complementary, if the weed is a selling point of the tour, you're going to get in trouble until the licensing rules are written and in effect.
 
2012-12-08 12:52:20 AM  

buckler: arentol: Is this guy aware that what he is doing is highly illegal in the state of Washington? Why would he admit to criminal actions to reporters like this?

You have to be licensed to sell marijuana in Washington, and nobody is licensed yet. So yeah... Kinda breaking the law there buddy, and while the police are looking the other way right now at people smoking in public, that doesn't mean they are ignoring people selling the stuff, especially ones doing so in such open and blatant disregard for the law.

I'm sure he's aware. FTA mentions going to various of his friends' houses. It's possible each of them has an ounce or less, and that the fee is for the cost of the tour, with the weed being "given away" gratis to tour members. Like if I were homebrewing again, I couldn't sell my beer, but I could charge $5 for an empty cup and give the beer away for free.


Yeah, I don't know anything about Marijuana. An ounce sounds like almost nothing at all to me so I wouldn't think that would be enough to share around an entire tour group. But I have no basis for judging, so if you say that would work then I have to believe you on this one. Sounds like he found a loophole. There is still the issue of how each location gets another legal ounce in time for the next tour, but I think the police will give even that a pass until the licenses are out there and in use, then they will go after a guy like this if they think he isn't purchasing from a legal retailer.
 
2012-12-08 12:56:54 AM  
 
2012-12-08 02:22:16 AM  
I'm in Washington in the Columbia river gorge currently (Stevenson, WA) so I'm getting a kind/kick etc...
 
2012-12-08 02:43:27 AM  

D_Evans45: thisisyourbrainonFark: thisisyourbrainonFark: Lutz. Logic sucks, eh?


It must suck for you, you appear to have a tenuous grasp at best. I don't really believe you even smoke weed. If you do smoke weed, your weed really, really sucks.


[3.bp.blogspot.com image 600x450]

[california.budtrader.com image 640x479]

[www.medicalmarijuanablog.com image 600x800]


freakin' weed porn - that first pic is interesting. Those look like ice crystals. Is that for real? I can haz hit of ice crystal ganja? Please?
 
2012-12-08 03:09:12 AM  

Frederf: OnlyM3: // can't legislate morality, right libs?

Is this where I point out that every single law written during the whole of human history is legislated morality? Tax codes, Roe v. Wade, oil platform regulation, education mandate, etc. are allllllllll morality-turned-statute. That's what law is.


What's "moral" about not copying that floppy?
 
2012-12-08 03:10:29 AM  

Fjornir: Problem is giving it away is still illegal...


Sellings legal. farkings legal. So why is selling...
 
2012-12-08 03:30:50 AM  
Ok why is it that most pot looks like a big scary moldy alien plant?

I've never smoked it, and if not for seeing an evidence locker full of it during my internship, I could say I've never seen it either...
 
2012-12-08 05:53:07 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Verzio: LordJiro: Well, except that his marijuana stances are one of several things actual liberals (as opposed to the centrists that compose most of the Democratic party) criticize him on fairly frequently. Y'know, kinda blowing the "Obamessiah" meme out of the water in the process?

Yeah, the liberals are really tough on Obama; you can tell because they ran a primary challenge against him in order to force him to address their issues.

Eh, sitting presidents almost never face primary challenges, it says nothing about how libs feel about how Obama is doing.



Article is from 09, but only a single time has a sitting president lost the nomination...

http://www.npr.org/blogs/politicaljunkie/2009/07/a_president_denied_r e nominatio.html

/Verzio toll harder
//better yet get over it, your guy lost
 
2012-12-08 11:49:06 AM  
Link

The WA pot party is BYOweed.

No gifting allowed.

You are allowed to have it, and you don't have to tell the officer where you got it. Gift it in private if you must. A business should not, and will not be gifting pot.
 
2012-12-08 02:17:24 PM  

Fark Me To Tears: thisisyourbrainonFark: Most cases involving small amounts have a larger crime, like DUI, attached to them, and the possession aspect is usually dismissed if the accused takes a plea.

It's going to be fun to watch the pot-induced DUI cases stack up. I wonder how many people need to be killed on the roads by people under the influence of legally-smoled pot before this nonsense finally gets repealed. It's not going to work, folks. Just how stupid is the whole thing going to be allowed to get before you're willing to admit it?


You clearly have no farking idea of what you are talking about and are just making an ill informed judgement on what shiatty misinformation your narrow little mind has absorbed.
/ does the idea that maybe your world view isn't the only true and correct way make you piss just a smidge in your pleated dockers?
 
2012-12-10 06:33:24 PM  
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