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(Huffington Post)   Anderson Cooper takes Republicans to task for flip flopping in their vote against a UN treaty protecting the rights of the disabled. Guess how many agreed to come on his show to defend their vote   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 136
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2012-12-07 03:04:01 PM
republicans are, at their core, appallingly awful human beings.
 
2012-12-07 03:26:46 PM

FlashHarry: republicans are, at their core, appallingly awful human beings.


At least the elected ones seem to be.
 
2012-12-07 03:26:58 PM
It is time the media in general did this. Their only real fear is that the GOP will regain power and they'll be blocked from having access. That's it. I mean, the media in general doesn't fear or give 2 shiats about libertarians or greens or any other political party. Just the 2 that have power.
 
2012-12-07 03:30:42 PM

Blues_X: FlashHarry: republicans are, at their core, appallingly awful human beings.

At least the elected ones seem to be.


yes, i should've specified that. i know republicans in real life who are fairly decent people. though they struggle when you ask them what it is about today's GOP that they support.
 
2012-12-07 03:48:54 PM
The UN operates much like a vampire, subby. It has no actual power over you unless you invite it into your house. But once you invite it in, it can fark up your world something good. We've already invited the UN into this country by letting them have that pretty building they inhabit in New York. That's the equivalent of Sookie opening up the door to let Bill talk to her face-to-face. But ratifying one of their treaties? That would be like her letting him stare her in the eyes while he talked. You know what happens when you let a vampire stare you in the eyes, subby? They glamour you. It's sort of like hypnotizing. Well, Sookie's immune to being glamoured, on account of she's a fairie or something like that, but you get my point.
 
2012-12-07 04:14:35 PM
They rolled over for a bunch of tin-hatted Muricans and a sweater-vested lunatic who holds no office, and they dissed Bob Dole to do it.

Fkn sociopathic pussies.
 
2012-12-07 04:29:36 PM

Lionel Mandrake: They rolled over for a bunch of tin-hatted Muricans and a sweater-vested lunatic who holds no office, and they dissed Bob Dole to do it.

Fkn sociopathic pussies.


That's what disturbs me the most, treatment of Bob Dole. There wasn't a man who personified Conservative ideals. Republicans could have Abstained or or found just enough votes to pass this.

But apparently GOP lawmakers like to sign pledges and relinquish their governing powers to Tea party, Grover Norquest , Santorum, and Contracts on America...
 
2012-12-07 04:30:03 PM

FlashHarry: republicans are, at their core, appallingly awful human beings.


inkscapetutorials.files.wordpress.com

Flash, I typically agree with all your posts. But never have felt so strong an urge to GIS those tired old "THIS" arrows.

I'm sorry, but there wasn't a single John Hancock when voting on this. A bunch of sheepish assholes who either knew their vote was morally reprehensible but required for lockstep, or genuinely thought it was correct but feared retribution. At least have the cojones to stand up and vote, "Yes, I'm farking tired of people in wheelchairs getting all the good parking spaces!!!!"

Of course, I'm just being facetious. But still.
 
2012-12-07 04:30:08 PM
Hey, when "President" Farbongo will appear on Fox & Friends, one of the GOP stalwarts will appear on Anderson Up-the-Pooper.

Fair's fair.
 
2012-12-07 05:01:49 PM
All of 'em?
 
2012-12-07 05:11:32 PM
All of those who stand by their choices and have the courage of their convictions
 
2012-12-07 05:31:16 PM

FlashHarry: republicans are, at their core, appallingly awful human beings.


Unlike Democrats, who are willing to shoulder the White Man's Burden, and bring civilization and disabled rights to the untamed savage?

I really don't understand the hard-on this treaty. The US already has the ADA. Not one single thing has changed for the disabled in the US due to the failure of this to pass. (Arguably, nothing will change for the disabled in those countries that have signed it. Does anyone really expect that, e.g., Haiti is going to install ADA-compliant-grade access everywhere?)

And if that weren't enough, Congress just universally shiatcanned the UN Internet treaty revision, which did basically the same thing, and no one complained -- despite the reasons for dumping it being essentially identical to those against the disabled one. Should we excoriate the Democrat-led Senate for failing to "secure the rights of people around the world to have Internet access"?
 
2012-12-07 05:36:53 PM
Sen. John Kerry told Cooper that the treaty had "absolutely zero ability ... no legal capacity to tell the U.S. to do anything."

That doesn't sound like a very effective treaty to me....
 
2012-12-07 05:37:49 PM

FlashHarry: republicans politicians are, at their core, appallingly awful human beings.


ftfy, so vote republican
 
2012-12-07 05:40:06 PM
Considering the US history regarding treaties, I'm not sure why anyone would be overly concerned about the content
 
2012-12-07 05:49:09 PM
so we didn't sign on to a treaty that even advocates state wouldn't affect us one iota - the juicy bit here is Rick Santorum showing up as a GOP heavyweight in a topic.

i know nobody wants to see the numbers 2016 yet, but...i can't help but cackle at the thought of the GOP being stuck with frothy in the front runners seat.

so, yes, absolutely our legislative body did the wrong thing here. but it's that one of the wrongest men in america made it happen that makes it entertaining.
 
2012-12-07 05:49:11 PM
"All of them" ?
 
2012-12-07 05:49:15 PM

Pocket Ninja: The UN operates much like a vampire, subby. It has no actual power over you unless you invite it into your house. But once you invite it in, it can fark up your world something good. We've already invited the UN into this country by letting them have that pretty building they inhabit in New York. That's the equivalent of Sookie opening up the door to let Bill talk to her face-to-face. But ratifying one of their treaties? That would be like her letting him stare her in the eyes while he talked. You know what happens when you let a vampire stare you in the eyes, subby? They glamour you. It's sort of like hypnotizing. Well, Sookie's immune to being glamoured, on account of she's a fairie or something like that, but you get my point.


Beautiful.
 
2012-12-07 05:49:35 PM
Bunch of f*cking pussies.
 
2012-12-07 05:49:35 PM
To quote William F. Buckley: Why does the baloney reject the grinder?
 
2012-12-07 05:52:52 PM

serial_crusher: Sen. John Kerry told Cooper that the treaty had "absolutely zero ability ... no legal capacity to tell the U.S. to do anything."

That doesn't sound like a very effective treaty to me....


The treaty is based on the ADA. It was supposed to be the US showing our leadership in the realm of rights for the disabled. So much for that.
 
2012-12-07 05:53:25 PM

serial_crusher: Sen. John Kerry told Cooper that the treaty had "absolutely zero ability ... no legal capacity to tell the U.S. to do anything."

That doesn't sound like a very effective treaty to me....



You've mistakenly assumed Republicans in Congress knows how the Constitution and governments works.
 
2012-12-07 05:54:51 PM

gerrymander: FlashHarry: republicans are, at their core, appallingly awful human beings.

Unlike Democrats, who are willing to shoulder the White Man's Burden, and bring civilization and disabled rights to the untamed savage?

I really don't understand the hard-on this treaty. The US already has the ADA. Not one single thing has changed for the disabled in the US due to the failure of this to pass. (Arguably, nothing will change for the disabled in those countries that have signed it. Does anyone really expect that, e.g., Haiti is going to install ADA-compliant-grade access everywhere?)

And if that weren't enough, Congress just universally shiatcanned the UN Internet treaty revision, which did basically the same thing, and no one complained -- despite the reasons for dumping it being essentially identical to those against the disabled one. Should we excoriate the Democrat-led Senate for failing to "secure the rights of people around the world to have Internet access"?


We had this argument.

Nobody thinks that this treaty will change anything in America. Well, nobody intelligent anyway. And the language of the treaty pretty much mirrored the language of the ADA. But for that very reason, America should have been the FIRST to sign it. It would have been a very symbolic statement for America to support our own words. Having a UN-led treaty supported by America--arguably the most powerful nation on Earth--looks very important; a UN treaty that is ignored by America looks very bad. Especially when the treaty went to great lengths to copy America's own laws. It looks like we don't even care enough about our own laws to support them for the rest of the world.

Unless that's the point here. If they would prefer not to support rights for the disabled globally, can we surmise that they would also prefer not to support them domestically? Can I infer from their lack of support for international rights for the disabled that they also lack support for them nationally? Is it time to examine their backing of the ADA?

Like I said already when this was brought up, what it DOES sound like is the same pathetic whine we've already heard from the Republican camp: But we've already got this! Why do we have to do it for everyone else? Let them figure it out for themselves! Other countries need to take responsibility for their own lives! It's not our job to keep helping people out!

Subnote: If you're really comparing the rights of the disabled to Internet access, there's probably no hope for you.
 
2012-12-07 05:55:40 PM
"So why the fudging of facts?" Cooper wondered, referring to Santorum.

Heh heh heh....
 
2012-12-07 05:59:28 PM
Maybe he could next take them to task by attempting to alienate their gun-rights base by endorsing a guy that signed an assault weapons ban, then voting down a bill that would expand gun rights on public lands.
 
2012-12-07 06:01:36 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: Hey, when "President" Farbongo will appear on Fox & Friends, one of the GOP stalwarts will appear on Anderson Up-the-Pooper.

Fair's fair.


I realize you're joking, but Obama has been interviewed by several Fox "journalists."
 
2012-12-07 06:03:58 PM

gerrymander: FlashHarry: republicans are, at their core, appallingly awful human beings.

Unlike Democrats, who are willing to shoulder the White Man's Burden, and bring civilization and disabled rights to the untamed savage?

I really don't understand the hard-on this treaty. The US already has the ADA. Not one single thing has changed for the disabled in the US due to the failure of this to pass. (Arguably, nothing will change for the disabled in those countries that have signed it. Does anyone really expect that, e.g., Haiti is going to install ADA-compliant-grade access everywhere?)

And if that weren't enough, Congress just universally shiatcanned the UN Internet treaty revision, which did basically the same thing, and no one complained -- despite the reasons for dumping it being essentially identical to those against the disabled one. Should we excoriate the Democrat-led Senate for failing to "secure the rights of people around the world to have Internet access"?


Internet access = basic human dignity.
 
2012-12-07 06:05:17 PM
I'm still wondering what the actual point of the treaty is.
 
2012-12-07 06:10:41 PM

VarmintCong: serial_crusher: Sen. John Kerry told Cooper that the treaty had "absolutely zero ability ... no legal capacity to tell the U.S. to do anything."

That doesn't sound like a very effective treaty to me....

The treaty is based on the ADA. It was supposed to be the US showing our leadership in the realm of rights for the disabled. So much for that.


You should know by now that anything arch-Democrat George W. Bush supported will be hated by Republicans.
 
2012-12-07 06:14:52 PM
Personally, I would have no problem with this vote if the Conservative weren't so "In Your Face" about how they are the "moral" party and how they are doing God's will.

Unless, their God is Satan and their moral code is "F**k everyone!"
 
2012-12-07 06:17:11 PM
I was waaaaay late to the original thread on this one, so I'll just repost:

Senator Mike Lee (Utah) is still crowing about his vote against the treaty. He even has an OpEd in USA today about it: (LINK).

From the OpEd:
"[T]hey simultaneously argue that U.S. ratification is necessary in order to force other countries to institute reforms. This inconsistent logic begs the question: If the treaty cannot be used to force changes in American law, how can it then be used to change the laws of other countries?"

Maybe because THE TREATY IS BASED ON UNITED STATES LAW, you f*cking brain dead, paranoid, ignorant moron?

I know the GOP has been going off the cliff lately, but we really, REALLY need to draw more attention to this and shame Mr. Lee. A simple Google search pulls up the addresses to his offices. I highly suggest you all send him a letter letting him know just how much of an embarrassment he really is.

/seriously, people... if you don't shine a light on this idiocy, it just makes it that much easier for them to pull this bullsh*t. 
//No, don't send an email, send an actual letter. Emails don't do squat.
 
2012-12-07 06:19:38 PM
More like Mandersin Pooper!

AMIRITE?!?!?!?!
 
2012-12-07 06:21:44 PM
Of course they won't go on his show. They might catch the gay.
 
2012-12-07 06:23:19 PM
i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-07 06:23:49 PM
i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-07 06:26:43 PM

heap: so we didn't sign on to a treaty that even advocates state wouldn't affect us one iota - the juicy bit here is Rick Santorum showing up as a GOP heavyweight in a topic.

i know nobody wants to see the numbers 2016 yet, but...i can't help but cackle at the thought of the GOP being stuck with frothy in the front runners seat.

so, yes, absolutely our legislative body did the wrong thing here. but it's that one of the wrongest men in america made it happen that makes it entertaining.


Frothy in the seat! Frothy in the seat!

/eww
 
2012-12-07 06:27:07 PM
Handicapped people are untermenschen. It's not surprising that the Republican party doesn't care about their interests.

/a black, a jew, two women and a cripple
/what are -- four people who will never ever ever again vote republican?
 
2012-12-07 06:31:01 PM
To be fair, nobody should be going on Anderson Cooper's show until he realizes that he's going to commit suicide doing daytime talk and returns to doing news.
 
2012-12-07 06:32:00 PM
Anderson might have caught the gheys...

In fact he was blinded last week from looking into a hole.

I used to wear Vanderbuilt jeans, but I didn't catch the gheys.
 
2012-12-07 06:32:14 PM

ad_rizzle: VarmintCong: serial_crusher: Sen. John Kerry told Cooper that the treaty had "absolutely zero ability ... no legal capacity to tell the U.S. to do anything."

That doesn't sound like a very effective treaty to me....

The treaty is based on the ADA. It was supposed to be the US showing our leadership in the realm of rights for the disabled. So much for that.

You should know by now that anything arch-Democrat George W. Bush supported will be hated by Republicans.


By now, anything to the left of Billy Graham will be hated by Republicans.

And anything advocated and supported by anyone to the left of Billy Graham will be reflexively voted down by Republicans, even when they supported it just two weeks before (See, once again, the Sportsmen's Act: Near unanimous support before Election Day, near unanimous rejection after.)
 
2012-12-07 06:34:24 PM

Gyrfalcon: Like I said already when this was brought up, what it DOES sound like is the same pathetic whine we've already heard from the Republican camp: But we've already got this! Why do we have to do it for everyone else? Let them figure it out for themselves! Other countries need to take responsibility for their own lives! It's not our job to keep helping people out!


Uh, no, what it sounds like is: ZOMG! Agenda 21! One world order!

60 years ago that would have come with an extra heap of "Zionism". 40 years ago "Trilateral commission!" Just find back issues of The Spotlight and reprint the articles on WND
 
2012-12-07 06:37:10 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Handicapped people are untermenschen. It's not surprising that the Republican party doesn't care about their interests.

/a black, a jew, two women and a cripple
/what are -- four people who will never ever ever again vote republican?


So our of those 5 people (with a possible minimum of 2 even though 4 was stated) which one would vote republican again? 

Unless we have:

black jew
Female jew
Female cripple
Black cripple
crippled jew

etc :)
 
2012-12-07 06:38:19 PM

gerrymander: I really don't understand the hard-on this treaty. The US already has the ADA. Not one single thing has changed for the disabled in the US due to the failure of this to pass.



So you're saying this was a display of resolve? A display of unity and strength before the upcoming fiscal cliff negotiations?

/I don't see any other reason. The currently accepted reasons are unreasonable.
 
2012-12-07 06:40:09 PM
It's a mystery alright.

www.ijreview.com
 
2012-12-07 06:43:12 PM
One good reason to not sign on to this treaty:

Article 9
Accessibility
1. To enable persons with disabilities to live independently and participate
fully in all aspects of life, States Parties shall take appropriate measures to
ensure to persons with disabilities access, on an equal basis with others, to the
physical environment, to transportation, to information and communications,
including information and communications technologies and systems, and to
other facilities and services open or provided to the public, both in urban and
in rural areas. These measures, which shall include the identification and
elimination of obstacles and barriers to accessibility, shall apply to, inter alia:
(a) Buildings, roads, transportation and other indoor and outdoor
facilities, including schools, housing, medical facilities and workplaces;


Sounds nice, doesn't it? The US has something just like that already. Except for one small issue: it doesn't include grandfathering-in of older buildings. Which means that it pretty much means that any building, no matter how old, would have to be adapted for people with handicaps.

The same goes for most of the rest of the treaty. Lots of nice-sounding stuff which nobody can really disagree with... except it doesn't have enough limits. Or any limits, in some cases.

Pretty much everything important - civil rights for the handicapped, et cetera - is already included in US law and precedent. All it would add would be another layer of bureaucracy that most countries will ignore, and the US will get whined at for not following to the letter...
 
2012-12-07 06:43:31 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: To be fair, nobody should be going on Anderson Cooper's show until he realizes that he's going to commit suicide doing daytime talk and returns to doing news.


Good news for you then because it's cancelled after this season.

Link
 
2012-12-07 06:44:57 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Handicapped people are untermenschen. It's not surprising that the Republican party doesn't care about their interests.

/a black, a jew, two women and a cripple
/what are -- four people who will never ever ever again vote republican?


I think you mean 4 and 3/5ths.
 
2012-12-07 06:47:52 PM

gerrymander: FlashHarry: republicans are, at their core, appallingly awful human beings.

Unlike Democrats, who are willing to shoulder the White Man's Burden, and bring civilization and disabled rights to the untamed savage?

I really don't understand the hard-on this treaty. The US already has the ADA. Not one single thing has changed for the disabled in the US due to the failure of this to pass. (Arguably, nothing will change for the disabled in those countries that have signed it. Does anyone really expect that, e.g., Haiti is going to install ADA-compliant-grade access everywhere?)

And if that weren't enough, Congress just universally shiatcanned the UN Internet treaty revision, which did basically the same thing, and no one complained -- despite the reasons for dumping it being essentially identical to those against the disabled one. Should we excoriate the Democrat-led Senate for failing to "secure the rights of people around the world to have Internet access"?


It's a symbolic move to show you support the equality of disabled people. For a country that constantly blathers about how they are bringing democracy, freedom and equality to the world not signing this just shows the hypocrisy. I for one hope they just STFU about being the leaders of freedom now since it's clear they aren't.
 
2012-12-07 06:49:19 PM

gerrymander: I really don't understand the hard-on this treaty. The US already has the ADA. Not one single thing has changed for the disabled in the US due to the failure of this to pass. (Arguably, nothing will change for the disabled in those countries that have signed it. Does anyone really expect that, e.g., Haiti is going to install ADA-compliant-grade access everywhere?)


The problem here is that these 38 Republicans who voted against it are basically the same group of tea party Republicans who are constantly telling me all about how America needs to project its values abroad, instead of apologizing. Well, here was their chance, and they caved in to the farking homeschool lobby.
 
MFK
2012-12-07 06:52:16 PM
so let me get this straight... these assholes actually -believe- that the UN can come to their homeschool derp factories and actually compel them to put in handicap ramps?

That's what this is about?
 
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