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2012-12-07 01:29:18 PM
1. Did the DJ's have the direct dial of the nursing station?

2. If not, then the blame goes to the switchboard - if they have one

/ sorry ...Link http://www.realmofdarkness.net/pc/calls/arnold/lrs
 
2012-12-07 01:29:44 PM
Lots of stupid in this thread, might as well add my own 2¢.

Clearly she felt the weight of the world on her shoulders because of what happened but we'll have to wait until the autopsy to see what the cause of death was.

Yeah, DJs pull stupid stunts like this all the time, even on situations such as these. Should they be fired for it? No; no one expects the Spanish Inquisition, k? This is not like someone cutting off the brakes of a car as a joke, the driver subsequently drives said car and is either severely injured or dies as a result. There is no direct correlation between their stunt and this woman dying.

Should they be admonished for it in some form? Yeah, absolutely. Either by being suspended without pay or people who listen to their show basically saying "I'm gonna listen to another station."
 
2012-12-07 01:31:20 PM

wjllope: maybe Australian law is sufficiently different, but there is precedent for penalties...
[www.insiderexclusive.com image 294x180]


Except that's a different scenario. That contest led directly to a woman's death because of lack of safety measures performed.

Would you have held them responsible if one of the losers went home and killed themselves because they didn't get a Wii?
 
2012-12-07 01:31:24 PM

Crackers Are a Family Food: AdolfOliverPanties: If someone got pranked and killed themselves over it, that says a lot more about the person's mental stability than it does the pranksters.

Agreed. Nobody who isn't already very seriously suicidal would end their life over something so trivial. Hell, I think back to the times where I was suicidal (hooray for meds!), and of all the things that could have made me snap, a prank call wasn't even on the list.


I could have made this comment after any number of "it was adjust a joke" comments but I'll stop at yours. Many health care professionals take great pride in their job and take it very seriously.

This nurses job was to care for her patient and PROTECT her from intrusions like this. Not only did she fail, but she failed very publicly. She committed malpractice and did so in a way that was publicized world wide.

"Though boys throw stones at frogs in sport, yet the frogs do not die in sport but in earnest."
 
2012-12-07 01:31:28 PM
cn1.kaboodle.com
 
2012-12-07 01:32:08 PM

Dinjiin: TrixieDelite: Exactly what should she have done differently?

When I receive an unsolicited call requesting sensitive information, I call them back by looking up their company in a phone directory. So in this case, the nurse filling in for the receptionist could have called the palace's switchboard, who could have then transferred her to the queen.


Agreed, if the hospital in question is the standard go-to spot for the royal family, they should have better trained their staff on such security protocol.

As it is, I just don't see any way of putting any blame on the shoulders of an innocent nurse whose job is to provide medical care, not to deal with an over-aggressive media.
 
2012-12-07 01:32:23 PM
Submitted with better headline: "Can't take a joke all time winner."
 
2012-12-07 01:32:28 PM
When DJ's prank call Sara Palin, or some other world figure who intentionally puts themself in the spotlight, I'm fine with it. Powerful and pompous people deserve all the lampooning we can throw at them.

It's quite another thing to engage a lowly nurse in such a high profile prank. Anyone with even an ounce of empathy and compassion should realize that such a prank, if successful, would destroy her career and reputation.

I feel bad when the lives of honest, working people are shredded so the rest of us can enjoy 30 seconds of moderate amusement.
 
2012-12-07 01:33:21 PM
Nurse: Good morning ma'am this is the nurses station how may I help you?

Greig: Hello I'm just after my granddaughter Kate. I wanted to see how her little tummy bug is going

Nurse: She's sleeping at the moment and has had an uneventful night, sleep is good for her. She's been given some fluids to re-hydrate her as she was quite dehydrated when she came in. But she's stable at the moment.


That was way too easy.
 
2012-12-07 01:36:35 PM
This has similarities to the Rutgers' Tyler Clementi video and his resultant suicide.

1) Rampant douchebaggery was the trigger.

2) Combined with a fragile psyche, and the target can't live with it.

On the other hand, one does need to look at the environment these people were in. Why was this woman so utterly mortified that she would take her own life?

What a shiatty situation. Many say, well if the targets were well adjusted or had strong psyches, they would shrug it off and/or seek vengeance themselves. But the problem is that it's the fragile psyches, the self-attackers, that provide the highest satisfaction to douchebags and inflict the highest costs on themselves.

First rule of life - You gotta be your own best friend, best advocate, best caretaker.
Second rule of life - Don't f--king attack yourself. The world is more than happy to do it for you.


I think it's safe to say these douchebags, either Dharun Ravi or these DJs, didn't intend for anyone to die. But sometimes douchebaggery has unexpected consequences. I think Ravi learned a lesson after he got run through the wringer. Net result is that Ravi will likely be much more circumspect with his douchebaggery. I hope these DJs learn a lesson too.
 
2012-12-07 01:36:50 PM

Rwa2play: Lots of stupid in this thread, might as well add my own 2¢.

Clearly she felt the weight of the world on her shoulders because of what happened but we'll have to wait until the autopsy to see what the cause of death was.

Yeah, DJs pull stupid stunts like this all the time, even on situations such as these. Should they be fired for it? No; no one expects the Spanish Inquisition, k? This is not like someone cutting off the brakes of a car as a joke, the driver subsequently drives said car and is either severely injured or dies as a result. There is no direct correlation between their stunt and this woman dying.

Should they be admonished for it in some form? Yeah, absolutely. Either by being suspended without pay or people who listen to their show basically saying "I'm gonna listen to another station."


That basically means they will be fired.
 
2012-12-07 01:37:55 PM

scottydoesntknow: wjllope: maybe Australian law is sufficiently different, but there is precedent for penalties...
[www.insiderexclusive.com image 294x180]

Except that's a different scenario. That contest led directly to a woman's death because of lack of safety measures performed.

Would you have held them responsible if one of the losers went home and killed themselves because they didn't get a Wii?


no - I probably shouldn't have posted the pic. It's just that remembered it and it seemed sort-of relevant in terms DJs possibly acting recklessly. But it isn't really... cheers
 
2012-12-07 01:38:26 PM
The fact that anyone in this thread responded to anyone with the words 'My Little Pony" or "Brony" in this thread proves the retardation of said posters.

/idiots falling for the biggest trolls out there.
 
2012-12-07 01:40:07 PM

wjllope: scottydoesntknow: wjllope: maybe Australian law is sufficiently different, but there is precedent for penalties...
[www.insiderexclusive.com image 294x180]

Except that's a different scenario. That contest led directly to a woman's death because of lack of safety measures performed.

Would you have held them responsible if one of the losers went home and killed themselves because they didn't get a Wii?

no - I probably shouldn't have posted the pic. It's just that remembered it and it seemed sort-of relevant in terms DJs possibly acting recklessly. But it isn't really... cheers


You're good. First thing I thought of too ("Hold Your Wee for a Wii" contest). But yea those people were definitely responsible for that death.
 
2012-12-07 01:40:16 PM

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: So these retards ruined a girls life and their own careers in one fell swoop. That really sucks - prank calls are the most unfunny "prank" out there.


Actually if you search "youtube" for pranks you will find that, apparently, tricking someone into smacking themselves in the nuts with a shovel, or just punching them in the junk is considered a prank. Prank calls, while low on the totem pole, are funnier than those.
 
2012-12-07 01:40:39 PM

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: Rwa2play: Lots of stupid in this thread, might as well add my own 2¢.

Clearly she felt the weight of the world on her shoulders because of what happened but we'll have to wait until the autopsy to see what the cause of death was.

Yeah, DJs pull stupid stunts like this all the time, even on situations such as these. Should they be fired for it? No; no one expects the Spanish Inquisition, k? This is not like someone cutting off the brakes of a car as a joke, the driver subsequently drives said car and is either severely injured or dies as a result. There is no direct correlation between their stunt and this woman dying.

Should they be admonished for it in some form? Yeah, absolutely. Either by being suspended without pay or people who listen to their show basically saying "I'm gonna listen to another station."

That basically means they will be fired.


They could be hired as Fark mods
 
2012-12-07 01:40:49 PM
Bob and Tom, before syndication, did a thing where if you were pregnant, you could call in, they'd connect you to your husband, and you could announce to him on air your pregnancy.  They stopped when one husband's response was "Either I have a divorce case or a malpractice case because I secretly got a vasectomy 6 months ago."
 
2012-12-07 01:42:31 PM

jst3p: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: So these retards ruined a girls life and their own careers in one fell swoop. That really sucks - prank calls are the most unfunny "prank" out there.

Actually if you search "youtube" for pranks you will find that, apparently, tricking someone into smacking themselves in the nuts with a shovel, or just punching them in the junk is considered a prank. Prank calls, while low on the totem pole, are funnier than those.


I would also like to add that a prank call led to one of the funniest fark posts of all time:

Link

CTRL + F tard shocking school
 
2012-12-07 01:43:08 PM

tj614zu: [profile.ak.fbcdn.net image 160x160]


Burn down the disco, haaaanng the blessed DJ...
 
2012-12-07 01:43:35 PM
All this talk of morning DJ's makes me sad my favorites just quit to head to a new show but as for now I am morning DJ-less. I listened to the podcast almost every day to get news from home.

/Support Command.
 
2012-12-07 01:43:43 PM

monoski: Obama killed her?


Nah, it was Daniel Craig.
 
2012-12-07 01:44:04 PM

jst3p: jst3p: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: So these retards ruined a girls life and their own careers in one fell swoop. That really sucks - prank calls are the most unfunny "prank" out there.

Actually if you search "youtube" for pranks you will find that, apparently, tricking someone into smacking themselves in the nuts with a shovel, or just punching them in the junk is considered a prank. Prank calls, while low on the totem pole, are funnier than those.

I would also like to add that a prank call led to one of the funniest fark posts of all time:

Link

CTRL + F tard shocking school


Sorry that thread was commemorating the original

Link
 
2012-12-07 01:46:07 PM
Reasonably foreseeable outcome?

No. Okay, moving on.
 
2012-12-07 01:46:19 PM
You know who else was an Austrian douchebag?
 
2012-12-07 01:46:20 PM

TrixieDelite: scottydoesntknow: Dinjiin: Except that this wasn't minor douche-baggery. The prank resulted in world-wide media attention and could have led to her job being terminated.

And if she had done what's actually required (you know, screening callers), the call never would've made it back there, confidential information never would've been leaked, and the prank would've failed miserably.

How do you screen the Queen of England? Have her confirm her birthdate? Mother's maiden name? Home address? Last four of her social?

Exactly what should she have done differently?


Any time I've been in the hospital they have you create a password or code that you tell your family so they can be patched through to your room. Even getting a hint for my hotmail password requires knowledge of a few preset trivia questions. I'm sure there were already a few measures at least like this if not more sophisticated in place.

As awkward as it would be to say "I'm sorry, Your Highness, that's not the secret password," that's what she was supposed to have done.
 
2012-12-07 01:46:21 PM
I'm sure that she's gotten more hell from the hospital than they're letting on. "Support", my ass. They probably started by reading her the riot act, then threatened to ruin her career.
 
2012-12-07 01:47:22 PM
Kudos to her for taking her job so seriously.
 
2012-12-07 01:47:38 PM
Do you know what would be really funny?

Phone the DJ's, say you are from the Attorney General's office and you have received a formal request for extradition from Scotland Yard and they are to surrender their passports while the legal paperwork is done.

Then put the recording on youtube for every to laugh at while they crap their pants.
 
2012-12-07 01:48:25 PM
Many people in this thread are saying, correctly, that it doesn't necessarily take a lot to push a depressed person over the edge to suicide.

The question is whether, knowing that, you would still go around being a dick to people for no good reason. If yes, you might just be a complete asshole.
 
2012-12-07 01:48:55 PM

I_C_Weener: Remember when Nancy Grace drove a women to take her life?  Good times.


Send her this way, Ill deliver a punishment. Naughty, dirty punishment.

/Yes Id hit it
//dont feel as ashamed as I probably should
 
2012-12-07 01:48:56 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: If someone got pranked and killed themselves over it, that says a lot more about the person's mental stability than it does the pranksters.


This
 
2012-12-07 01:49:24 PM
Was it Weenie and the Butt?

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-12-07 01:50:20 PM

Rwa2play: Should they be admonished for it in some form? Yeah, absolutely. Either by being suspended without pay or people who listen to their show basically saying "I'm gonna listen to another station."


I think they're going to be admonished in the spectrum of 'their radio broadcasting career is beyond over'. Good luck getting another radio job anywhere in the Commonwealth after causing the suicide of someone charged with caring for the person carrying the potential future King/Queen. Or another job period, really.
 
2012-12-07 01:50:20 PM
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2012-12-07 01:12:23 PM


crashdavis18: it really is the height of hypocrisy to call for these djs to be fired. morning radio has been making prank calls forever, and no one cares.

That would be, wouldn't it. You actually think no one has ever called for a morning radio DJ to be fired for a prank call?

You know what would be awkward? If this same radio station was currently on probation for something similarly wildly egregious like say having a 14 year old talk about being raped as a 12 year old while strapped to a polygraph. But people loved that prank, it had no media attention, so clearly you're right about the hypocrisy.
Wow, that was dumb. Sorry,I often post idiocies because I don't take the time to think and just spew whatever crap comes up. My bad.




That's fair. Cheers to you!
 
2012-12-07 01:51:57 PM
Rather listen to these guys:
greatermedia.com
 
2012-12-07 01:52:23 PM

T.rex: I always get confused with the name Kate Middleston, thinking its the girl who does the Dougie dance at the Lakers game


You are definitely confused. That's Kate Upton.
 
2012-12-07 01:53:05 PM
Auto-erotic hanging David Caradine style? Article does not say if she was two knuckles deep when they found her.
 
2012-12-07 01:56:26 PM

doubled99: That's fair. Cheers to you!


Hehe, I see you're upset by my comment to you.
 
2012-12-07 01:56:36 PM

Occam's Taser: Secondly, the Aussie DJs are douchebags, but would be in no way responsible for crazy old lady mother of two young children suicide.


Delibelled that for you.
 
2012-12-07 01:56:53 PM
I got mail! Yayyyyy!
 
2012-12-07 01:58:42 PM
Either by being suspended without pay or people who listen to their show basically saying "I'm gonna listen to another station."


No matter what happens, unless the outcome is *not* suicide, those two have no further career on the radio. Their on-air time is over. In fact, they'll be lucky if someone doesn't kill them.

Am I advocating that? No. Just saying it's likely.
 
2012-12-07 02:00:54 PM
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2012-12-07 02:01:23 PM

TheSignPost: Either by being suspended without pay or people who listen to their show basically saying "I'm gonna listen to another station."


No matter what happens, unless the outcome is *not* suicide, those two have no further career on the radio. Their on-air time is over. In fact, they'll be lucky if someone doesn't kill them.

Am I advocating that? No. Just saying it's likely.


Why are the DJs deaths/murders likely? What have they done to warrant murder?
 
2012-12-07 02:04:23 PM

Millennium: OtherLittleGuy: Hmmmm....wondering if the radio pranksters will be indicted for manslaughter.

/not snark, srsly

I doubt it. Prank-call victims get mad, and sometimes they even get scared depending on the type or frequency of call. Everyone knows this; it's the reason people make prank calls, and why they are jerks for doing so. But nobody ever anticipates that the victim of a prank call might kill themselves, especially when you only call them once. That just isn't a part of normal human psychology, or even most abnormal human psychologies. No one would expect it; no one would even entertain the possibility. Indeed, we'd look at someone who anticipated the possibility as overthinking things.

End result: the pranksters are jerks, but I don't think it's fair to hold them liable for manslaughter. No one could have foreseen this. These guys are going to have to carry the weight of the fact that their actions led to someone's death, even though they didn't mean it, and that will prove to be punishment enough.


That was an extremely insightful comment.

/Or, "This"
 
2012-12-07 02:05:06 PM

scottydoesntknow: TheSignPost: Either by being suspended without pay or people who listen to their show basically saying "I'm gonna listen to another station."


No matter what happens, unless the outcome is *not* suicide, those two have no further career on the radio. Their on-air time is over. In fact, they'll be lucky if someone doesn't kill them.

Am I advocating that? No. Just saying it's likely.

Why are the DJs deaths/murders likely? What have they done to warrant murder?



Have you read any of the press? Any of the "I hope you die" sentiment in response to her death?

What have they done to *warrant* being killed? Nothing. But that wasn't the point I was making.
 
2012-12-07 02:06:17 PM

BigNumber12: BigNumber12: what's the worse that could happen


Why do people do this?

Oh, because language is evolving. I always forget that.


Getting a word wrong in an age-old phrase is not evolving. For all intense and purposes, what you did would be "devolving".
 
2012-12-07 02:06:54 PM
ok, when are DJs going to learn that they cannot do what the Fark they want on the radio. Link to another set of Djs where the prank did not end so well for them.
Link
Saying that I don't think they can be blamed for the death of the nurse. What if the Kate's baby miscarries due to stress of the nurse dying, will they be responsible for that? Then England go to war with Australia for death of a royal. OMG DJS started world war 3 with prank call!
 
2012-12-07 02:07:21 PM
This is why you're supposed to fake the prank call.
 
2012-12-07 02:08:43 PM
lennavan Smartest
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2012-12-07 01:56:26 PM


doubled99: That's fair. Cheers to you!

Hehe, I see you're upset by my comment to you.




Absolutely. I have been literally crying tears of impotent rage for an hour and am currently writhing in frustration at my inability to get at you through the computer. Your combination of surgical like evisceration of posts and detached cool is devastating.
You are truly Troll Elite.
 
2012-12-07 02:10:32 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: AdolfOliverPanties: If someone got pranked and killed themselves over it, that says a lot more about the person's mental stability than it does the pranksters.

That doesn't absolve the pranksters of being douchebags though.


They're morning show "personalities" for a radio station. Being douchebags is their job.
 
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