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(Guardian)   Now, for the first time ever, a parrot has successfully trained a human to design and build robots specifically for the parrot's use and entertainment   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 29
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2012-12-07 12:54:39 PM
When Pepper is driving his robot, this is what's going on inside his head.

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2012-12-07 02:44:34 PM
If only birds had a way to get around by themselves.
 
2012-12-07 02:48:14 PM
The first toy was a sound-activated squirt gun. This toy sprayed water on Pepper whenever he screamed. After an initial period of silent astonishment at his human companion's sheer ingenuity, Pepper tested the toy thoroughly and grew to love it. Of course, Pepper's shrieks were rewarded so he screamed more than ever, although now, his frustration was tempered with long moments of soggy, shrieking delight.

"He started using it as a bird bath", admits Mr Gray, who originally designed this particular toy to quiet Pepper. He added: but "then he'd scream just to be squirted."


Yeah, I could have told him THAT was going to happen. Parrots are too smart for that shiat. Punishing for bad behavior doesn't really work for parrots, you have to reward them for NOT doing that behavior. And now your Grey is going to try screaming at everything to see if it makes it do something.
 
2012-12-07 02:53:26 PM
How the hell did he train the bird to steer it like this?
 
2012-12-07 02:58:04 PM

Antimatter: How the hell did he train the bird to steer it like this?


Gray parrots are wicked smart, I'm sure the bird figured it out on its own.
 
2012-12-07 02:58:07 PM

spyderqueen


And now your Grey is going to try screaming at everything to see if it makes it do something.


Hmmm.


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pic is hot
 
2012-12-07 03:15:12 PM

AntonChigger: Antimatter: How the hell did he train the bird to steer it like this?

Gray parrots are wicked smart, I'm sure the bird figured it out on its own.


Trial and error with some positive reinforcement thrown in. Birdie steers the bot in the right direction, birdie gets a treat.

I personally love everything about this video.

Englebert Slaptyback: Hmmm.


And that picture.
 
2012-12-07 03:27:04 PM

Antimatter: How the hell did he train the bird to steer it like this?


There is no evidence that the bird is steering - in the vid he seemed to go left a lot.

If the owner had put say a pile of seeds or other treats on a chair and then the bird drove to it, that would be evidence that the bird knew how to steer as opposed to just make the cart move.
 
2012-12-07 03:31:24 PM
Pepper, whose wings are clipped to preventing him from flying around his humans' house and destroying their things

People can be such assholes.
 
2012-12-07 03:45:00 PM
What a smart bird. It's no Norwegian Blue, but then again what is?
 
2012-12-07 03:45:55 PM

1. Put snakes on plane: Pepper, whose wings are clipped to preventing him from flying around his humans' house and destroying their things

People can be such assholes.


Someone has never owned an exotic bird before I see. This is necessary to keep the bird from flying away/where it's not supposed to. Either that or keep the bird in a cage 24/7 which is WAY more assholish.
 
2012-12-07 03:47:51 PM
Short Circuit theme song FTW.
 
2012-12-07 03:48:33 PM
My grey would love this...then try to eat it.
 
2012-12-07 04:08:38 PM

Slam Dunkz: 1. Put snakes on plane: Pepper, whose wings are clipped to preventing him from flying around his humans' house and destroying their things

People can be such assholes.

Someone has never owned an exotic bird before I see. This is necessary to keep the bird from flying away/where it's not supposed to. Either that or keep the bird in a cage 24/7 which is WAY more assholish.


Those are not the only two options though, there is a third option of not keeping the animal captive. I'm not a crazy PETA type who thinks pets are slaves or anything but my first reaction to the clipped wings was one of disgust as well. If the only way to keep a parrot captive is either a small cage or mutilation maybe they are just not ideal pets.
 
2012-12-07 04:15:03 PM

Egoy3k: Those are not the only two options though, there is a third option of not keeping the animal captive. I'm not a crazy PETA type who thinks pets are slaves or anything but my first reaction to the clipped wings was one of disgust as well. If the only way to keep a parrot captive is either a small cage or mutilation maybe they are just not ideal pets.


Yups. Odds are the local shelter has dozens of dogs who would be perfectly happy with an indoor centric life style and not need their hind legs clipped to adapt. Or cats, ferrets, rabbits, various rodents, snakes, etc.

/of course neutering and spaying would still occur
 
db2
2012-12-07 04:19:06 PM

Egoy3k: Slam Dunkz: 1. Put snakes on plane: Pepper, whose wings are clipped to preventing him from flying around his humans' house and destroying their things

People can be such assholes.

Someone has never owned an exotic bird before I see. This is necessary to keep the bird from flying away/where it's not supposed to. Either that or keep the bird in a cage 24/7 which is WAY more assholish.

Those are not the only two options though, there is a third option of not keeping the animal captive. I'm not a crazy PETA type who thinks pets are slaves or anything but my first reaction to the clipped wings was one of disgust as well. If the only way to keep a parrot captive is either a small cage or mutilation maybe they are just not ideal pets.



'Mutilation'? You're just trimming the feathers occasionally, not cutting off pieces of the wing. It's no more mutilation than making your deadbeat stepson cut that damn mullet.
 
2012-12-07 04:22:05 PM

db2: 'Mutilation'? You're just trimming the feathers occasionally, not cutting off pieces of the wing. It's no more mutilation than making your deadbeat stepson cut that damn mullet.


Why don't you come here and let me trim your Achilles tendons, since it isn't cruel. Don't worry though we'll hook you up with a sweet hover round thing.
 
2012-12-07 04:29:59 PM

db2: 'Mutilation'? You're just trimming the feathers occasionally, not cutting off pieces of the wing. It's no more mutilation than making your deadbeat stepson cut that damn mullet.


Three things;

1) I did not know that so please forgive the use of the word mutilation.

2)It's still a body modification that doesn't allow the bird to behave in the manner it evolved to behave which is still pretty shiatty. It's like keeping a horse in the barn and not allowing it to run. I would imagine that the animals diet would have to be vastly different from that of a wild bird that requires flight to find food not to mention the fact that making an animal that has the potential to FLY unable to do so just seems way too cruel. Imagine if you had the ability to fly and some asshole kept taking it from you.

3)I have no children, step or otherwise.
 
2012-12-07 04:42:59 PM

ha-ha-guy: Why don't you come here and let me trim your Achilles tendons, since it isn't cruel. Don't worry though we'll hook you up with a sweet hover round thing.


You're aware that feathers are like toenails and hair, right? Clipping them is not a permanent modification.
 
2012-12-07 04:43:53 PM

Egoy3k:

3)I have no children, step or otherwise.


Well, in all fairness, you'd need to find a willing vagina beforehand. There are steps to these things, you know.
 
2012-12-07 04:46:56 PM

IrateShadow: ha-ha-guy: Why don't you come here and let me trim your Achilles tendons, since it isn't cruel. Don't worry though we'll hook you up with a sweet hover round thing.

You're aware that feathers are like toenails and hair, right? Clipping them is not a permanent modification.


When you clip them as a course of regular grooming so that they never grow long enough to allow flight, explain the practical difference.

Or since you want to dense about it, how about I attach 50 pound lead weights to each ankle. They could be removed at some point, so they're not a permanent modification, I just never will remove them. Better?
 
2012-12-07 04:49:40 PM
Time for the obligatory parakeet humping things video Link

/Dieter does not have his wings clipped
//has free reign of the house
///except at night
////dog is terrified of him.
 
2012-12-07 05:22:36 PM

HairBolus: Antimatter: How the hell did he train the bird to steer it like this?

There is no evidence that the bird is steering - in the vid he seemed to go left a lot.

If the owner had put say a pile of seeds or other treats on a chair and then the bird drove to it, that would be evidence that the bird knew how to steer as opposed to just make the cart move.


It seemed to follow the path without going in to the rocks
at 1'14"
 
2012-12-07 05:35:31 PM
Design flaw number one: the parrot can't see where it's going very well when it's steering. The little steering wheel thingie should have been oriented to the side.
 
2012-12-07 06:28:26 PM

ha-ha-guy: db2: 'Mutilation'? You're just trimming the feathers occasionally, not cutting off pieces of the wing. It's no more mutilation than making your deadbeat stepson cut that damn mullet.

>>>>trim your Achilles tendons

>>>>TRIMMING WINGS

One of these things is not like the other. Context-challenged much?

A couple of comments on the video.

1 - The parrot drives better than some Asians I see around here.

2 - I predict 4..3..2..1 until DARPA gets into the act and we have Combat Parrots driving around Brown Countries. A PEACoMP (Psittacus Erithacus Armed Combat Mobile Platform) would be awesome.

 
2012-12-07 08:39:25 PM

Slam Dunkz: 1. Put snakes on plane: Pepper, whose wings are clipped to preventing him from flying around his humans' house and destroying their things

People can be such assholes.

Someone has never owned an exotic bird before I see. This is necessary to keep the bird from flying away/where it's not supposed to. Either that or keep the bird in a cage 24/7 which is WAY more assholish.


Except it's not the only way if you have a well trained and entertained parrot. It's one thing if you know that the environment is unsafe because you know your stupid housemates leave doors open or because the bird is aggressive, and another because you think it's inconvenient that they're birds and can fly. I mean, you don't hobble your cat so it can't jump on the bookcase.

Large parrots aren't so good at getting around as say, a budgie, and it hurts them a lot more if they crash because they jump off something when clipped just due to their mass, which can make them paranoid about getting around/falling and give them other psychological issues (especially greys, which I've heard are pretty mentally sensitive) even if you do let their wings grow out later. Ideally, you birdproof your house (screens on windows, no active ceiling fans, doors to outside are blocked by other doors/curtains, no important things left out) and keep an eye on your bird when they're out. Their cage has their destructables and foraging toys which you need to make more interesting than your books and furniture, rotating them in and out frequently so toys remain "new." Out time can be fun clicker training and hangin' with the flock, and if you're super paranoid about doors you could get them an aviator flight harness and have 'em wear that, but they need to be able to have fun in their cage as well for their own safety.

I'm for flighted birds though -- if I got a large parrot, I'd prefer it hadn't ever been clipped and had properly fledged with all its feathers. My budgie came clipped (pet store) but small birds bounce. She flies fine now, but she's lazy and doesn't like exploring/visiting other rooms, unlike my past bird. She would prefer I read her mind and serve her every whim like she was a small feathered cat.
 
2012-12-07 09:05:29 PM

Slam Dunkz: 1. Put snakes on plane: Pepper, whose wings are clipped to preventing him from flying around his humans' house and destroying their things

People can be such assholes.

Someone has never owned an exotic bird before I see. This is necessary to keep the bird from flying away/where it's not supposed to. Either that or keep the bird in a cage 24/7 which is WAY more assholish.


When I was a kid we had to clip the wings of our budgie when he got on in years. He couldn't fly as well as he used to, and would overestimate his abilities.
It was better for him to gently glide downward onto the ground as opposed to into a wall and behind a couch.
 
2012-12-07 09:27:15 PM
farking hippies. This is america.
 
2012-12-08 12:54:39 PM

ha-ha-guy: Egoy3k: Those are not the only two options though, there is a third option of not keeping the animal captive. I'm not a crazy PETA type who thinks pets are slaves or anything but my first reaction to the clipped wings was one of disgust as well. If the only way to keep a parrot captive is either a small cage or mutilation maybe they are just not ideal pets.

Yups. Odds are the local shelter has dozens of dogs who would be perfectly happy with an indoor centric life style and not need their hind legs clipped to adapt. Or cats, ferrets, rabbits, various rodents, snakes, etc.

/of course neutering and spaying would still occur

You can get a custom "Lil Brudder?" You really derped out on this thread
 
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