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(SILive)   Woman facing felony charges after refusing to stop yapping on her cell in courtroom, ignoring the judge's orders to leave, arguing with court officers and then getting all punchy   (silive.com) divider line 30
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2012-12-07 02:36:37 PM
7 votes:
There seems to a whole generations of people now who think they are owed respect but won't show any to anyone and will react violently if they believe someone is disrespecting them, no matter who it is, in this case a judge and the court officers.

It seems like they would rather be arrested and go to jail than act in any way as if they accepted that someone else might have power over them. The only thing they seem to submit to is force, not the threat of force but the actual use of force.
2012-12-07 02:36:10 PM
4 votes:

buzzcut73: The Stealth Hippopotamus: holy hell. people have lost all notions of etiquette and respect.

This. Who the hell would even think that talking on your cell phone in a courtroom would be anywhere near OK?
If you're anywhere above clinically retarded, you'll shut the thing off (not silent, but OFF) before you even cross the threshold.


Enh, to be fair there are circumstances. I had a child in the hospital when I had to testify as a witness and told the judge. He told me it was fine if I left the cell on and if the hospital called to tell him and he'd let me off the stand/call a recess. The trick is to ask politely in a manner which shows you respect their authority (and have a legit need).
2012-12-07 02:14:32 PM
4 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: holy hell. people have lost all notions of etiquette and respect.


It's no that people are any more or less polite. It's that nowadays we expect everyone to have a modicum of decorum. Whereas in the past there used to be an under-class that we expected to behave slightly better than animals.
2012-12-07 02:09:27 PM
4 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: holy hell. people have lost all notions of etiquette and respect.


This. Who the hell would even think that talking on your cell phone in a courtroom would be anywhere near OK?
If you're anywhere above clinically retarded, you'll shut the thing off (not silent, but OFF) before you even cross the threshold.
2012-12-07 01:09:11 PM
4 votes:
Some people just don't understand that the judge is the GM of the court and that he can, in fact, force you to roll a 1.
2012-12-07 04:01:43 PM
2 votes:

lucksi: Question for the Americans: How can a judge immediatly hand down a jail sentence for contempt of court?

I'm not talking about this case, there was one recently where someone called the judge a dick and was sentenced to 60 days.

a) What about that freedom of speech wargarbl? You'd think that ranks higher than hurt feeling from a judge

b)What about the right to a trial? Even if you say he got it immediatly; the judge who was insulted is biased and would be exchanged for another one if it would be anything else.


Two kinds of Contempt of Court:
One is civil and can be handed down at the discretion of the judge in order to preserve decorum, enforce his orders, or deal with infractions by counsel in his courtroom

Criminal contempt is an actual criminal offense and so you get the who due process thing including a right to counsel, a formal indictment, the works

If civil contempt is used to incarcerate someone until they comply with a court order, it, in most places MUST be converted into a criminal contempt charge with a definite sentence (Civil contempt can hold you until you agree to comply with the court order) once it is obvious that the person held in contempt will not comply with the court's demand under any circumstances

The First Amendment, like all civil rights is subject to "reasonable restrictions on time, place, and manner where such restriction advance a compelling governmental interest in the least restrictive way possible"
Proper administration of justice requires a courtroom free of distractions so that evidence can be given and heard properly. Yakking on your cell phone disrupts that
2012-12-07 03:20:22 PM
2 votes:

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Some people just don't understand that the judge is the GM of the court and that he can, in fact, force you to roll a 1.


I shudder to think what would have happened had she pulled that in the courtroom of one of the Judges I used to work for. The son of a MS Sharecropper, got himself a scholarship to college because of his mathematical genius, joined the ROTC because he needed to support his mama and his borthers and sisters, became a green beret (while black, in the late 1950's) Went to Vietnam twice, once in '62 and once as a full bird in '68. Came home quit the military put himself through lawschool, became a D and then a judge.

I tell you this to tell you that he might have been the hardest hard-ass ever to sit the bench, and someone infamous for how much he didn't suffer fools, but, frankly, he'd EARNED it.

I recall him talking to a juror who was an hour late back from lunch because there was a sale she just couldn't miss, and in his sweetest tone he asked her about what she'd bought, how much she'd saved, and then with Iron in his eye said "good. Glad you saved all that money, it'll help you pay the fine I'm about to give you" WHAM!

Worse yet was the new ADA who didn;t realize the judge's insistence on formality and decorum while court was in session. He asked the ADA if he wanted to "Voir Dire" a particular witness using a flawless french pronunciation and the lawyer, slightly mockingly, said "VWAW Whut your honor?" and in open court, before the defendant, the jury and everyone, the Judge leans forward, in this tiny quiet voice that meant to those who knew him, that he was seething "Mr Jones, please get up out of your chair, and go immediately to Mr Johnson's (the DA for the county) office and give him a message from me" The attorney, a little baffled since trial WAS going on said "of course, what's the message?" and the Judge said "Tell him that Judge X would like him to send a REAL LAWYER to his courtroom to replace you in this trial"
2012-12-07 03:16:41 PM
2 votes:

zinny: In this case, the stereotype was supported by the facts.

Is that a racist observation?


THE FACTS ARE RACIST!!!


this is one of those cases were other factors might be the cause, notice how she is a new yorker...
2012-12-07 03:10:14 PM
2 votes:
Have her approach bench.
Smash cell with gavel.
Problem solved.
2012-12-07 02:41:30 PM
2 votes:
This woman is an asshat who deserves whatever penalty is imposed upon her. This case is also a good argument for allowing cell phone jammers in this country. Install one of sufficient power to cover the entire courtroom. Put the switch at the bench within reach of the judge. Arrogant biatch starts talking on her phone, the judge flips the switch, problem solved.
2012-12-07 02:32:11 PM
2 votes:

Devolving_Spud: She should have reminded the judge that she pays his salary.

Just to give the story a teeny bit more schadenfreude


If she can't afford to get herself out on $1000 bail, I doubt she is contributing much to society.
2012-12-07 06:26:51 PM
1 votes:
In a related note, can anybody give me any justification for the tools walking around blaring music on their phones or headphones? I think that went out in the 80s, any reason I shouldn't just end the noise?
2012-12-07 04:55:33 PM
1 votes:

ybishop: [images.ridemonkey.com image 478x333] 

When keeping it real goes wrong.....


EFF THAT! I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE PLAYIN ON MY PHONE.
2012-12-07 04:42:00 PM
1 votes:
if you ever need a bit of a confidence boost, go hang out in a court room
2012-12-07 04:21:01 PM
1 votes:
She should have gotten tazed hard like this smart mouth idiot did:

Link

The world needs more people like P. Barnes
www.strangebeaver.com
2012-12-07 03:57:46 PM
1 votes:

Odd Bird: MagSeven: Quick fark poll. Who would you rather sit next to on a commercial flight?

This stewardess
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/you didn't specify the choices


I'd rather sit next to Deltalina

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Oh, yes...I've been a naughty boy. Help me buckle my seatbelt?
2012-12-07 03:23:24 PM
1 votes:
Question for the Americans: How can a judge immediatly hand down a jail sentence for contempt of court?

I'm not talking about this case, there was one recently where someone called the judge a dick and was sentenced to 60 days.

a) What about that freedom of speech wargarbl? You'd think that ranks higher than hurt feeling from a judge

b)What about the right to a trial? Even if you say he got it immediatly; the judge who was insulted is biased and would be exchanged for another one if it would be anything else.
2012-12-07 03:22:37 PM
1 votes:
Well, here's a once precious little snowflake all grown up who is going to get an opportunity to experience jail.
2012-12-07 03:00:26 PM
1 votes:
Well at least she kept it real.
2012-12-07 03:00:16 PM
1 votes:

buzzcut73: you'll shut the thing off (not silent, but OFF) before you even cross the threshold.


This is required where I live. You may not in any way, use your cell phone while in the holy sanctuary of the courtroom where any sainted judge presides.

/attitude
//I has one
2012-12-07 02:57:07 PM
1 votes:

capnmonkey: Uhm, whatever happened to Freedom of Speech in this country???

One more constitutional protection trampled in the name of government. RIP 1st, 2nd amendment.

...


That is one unmotivated, uninspired troll attempt. Freedom of Speech is wasted on your effort.
2012-12-07 02:44:04 PM
1 votes:

buzzcut73: The Stealth Hippopotamus: holy hell. people have lost all notions of etiquette and respect.

This. Who the hell would even think that talking on your cell phone in a courtroom would be anywhere near OK?
If you're anywhere above clinically retarded, you'll shut the thing off (not silent, but OFF) before you even cross the threshold.


You'd be surprised. I've had the pleasure of the court system twice (divorce and custody modification). You'd think people were raised in barns. There's even a sign on the court door that says "turn cell phones OFF". My ex was busted texting during our modification. The judge told her to turn it off, she told him that the phone functionality was off but she still needed to text as she was waiting to hear back from her loan officer to purchase a new car. He told her to turn it off or lose it. He glanced at me for about 3 milliseconds. In that moment we exchanged a lot. I got the modification order I was seeking.
2012-12-07 02:40:35 PM
1 votes:

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Some people just don't understand that the judge is the GM of the court and that he can, in fact, force you to roll a 1.


Judge: The pungent smell of misdemeanors and felonies emanates from the wet courtroom walls...
Jennifer Ortiz: WHERE ARE THE CHEETOS?!
2012-12-07 02:29:39 PM
1 votes:
racist only has 1 s..... the more you know
2012-12-07 02:17:57 PM
1 votes:

mayIFark: How did she get the cell phone into the court room? The couple times I have been there to face traffic ticket, I had to go through security doors that cell phones were not allowed. I had to leave it in the car.

/DNRTFA
//Did a Machete?
///Subtle?



When you say Traffic Ticket do you mean Criminal Court Appearance that you are trying to hide from us? Because one lets you have cell phones, and one does not.
2012-12-07 02:17:45 PM
1 votes:
Memories of drinking in the Court Tavern right behind this place.
2012-12-07 02:13:42 PM
1 votes:
How did she get the cell phone into the court room? The couple times I have been there to face traffic ticket, I had to go through security doors that cell phones were not allowed. I had to leave it in the car.

/DNRTFA
//Did a Machete?
///Subtle?
2012-12-07 02:12:55 PM
1 votes:
biatch needs a shock collar.
2012-12-07 02:06:58 PM
1 votes:
Hang the biatch!
2012-12-07 12:30:15 PM
1 votes:
Well, is she hot?
 
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