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2012-12-07 08:27:18 AM  
Did he not understand the risks that come with breaking and entering and attempted robbery of another person's property?
 
2012-12-07 08:36:47 AM  
He should have added, "and I'm an off-duty cop." They would have got there quick, then tazed the homeowner and arrested him.
 
2012-12-07 09:04:24 AM  

DrPainMD: He should have added, "and I'm an off-duty cop." They would have got there quick, then tazed the homeowner and arrested him.


Not where this happened. Farking criminal best be on his knees this morning in thanks for the meal he's getting at the Parker County lockup this morning.
 
2012-12-07 09:06:14 AM  

Cythraul: Did he not understand the risks that come with breaking and entering and attempted robbery of another person's property?


He might now.
 
2012-12-07 09:15:52 AM  
On the upside he saved the homeowner the trouble of calling the authorities.

And really, when you weigh the options, I think most of us would agree prison is more attractive than getting your legs shot off.
 
2012-12-07 10:24:27 AM  
"If he gets out of the truck, shoot him in the legs," Gerow reportedly told his son, who was holding a shotgun.

Terrible advice. Enjoy getting the shiat sued out of you if you carry out that plan. Much better advice: "If he gets out of the truck, yell, 'Look out he's headed right for us, and I think he's got a gun,' and shoot him in the head." Dead men can't sue.
 
2012-12-07 10:25:05 AM  
Moore managed to reach his GMA pickup, but Gerow and his stepson successfully prevented him from leaving the scene by swiping his keys and blocking his exit with their car.

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I hope it was the Katy Couric edition
 
2012-12-07 10:28:46 AM  
911 Operator: Sorry sir, we are just going to send the medical examiner.
 
2012-12-07 10:29:17 AM  

Cythraul: Did he not understand the risks that come with breaking and entering and attempted robbery of another person's property?


In Texas, no less. Dude is damn lucky he ran into a gun owner, and not a gun nut.
 
2012-12-07 10:30:24 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu


"If he gets out of the truck, shoot him in the legs," Gerow reportedly told his son, who was holding a shotgun.

Terrible advice. Enjoy getting the shiat sued out of you if you carry out that plan. Much better advice: "If he gets out of the truck, yell, 'Look out he's headed right for us, and I think he's got a gun,' and shoot him in the head." Dead men can't sue.


But the dead man's family can - and often will - sue.
 
2012-12-07 10:32:09 AM  
Unppossible!

I was assured by Bob Costas that guns are only used by ignorant black athletes to kill baby mommas.
 
2012-12-07 10:34:00 AM  

Diogenes: On the upside he saved the homeowner the trouble of calling the authorities.

And really, when you weigh the options, I think most of us would agree prison is more attractive than getting your legs shot off.


Came here to say the same. "Hello police? You're going to need to come down to 234 Sycamore to arrest a burglar. Yes, that's me; I'm calling for the homeowner."

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Terrible advice. Enjoy getting the shiat sued out of you if you carry out that plan. Much better advice: "If he gets out of the truck, yell, 'Look out he's headed right for us, and I think he's got a gun,' and shoot him in the head." Dead men can't sue.


True, but it is good advice to say it out loud as long as you don't carry the plan out; scaring the perpetrator into submission is better than a confrontation.
 
2012-12-07 10:38:15 AM  
best comment under the article.....

"The bungling burglar who burgled a bucolic bungalow was booked for burglary in Buttfark, Texas. "

i loled
 
2012-12-07 10:39:33 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Terrible advice. Enjoy getting the shiat sued out of you if you carry out that plan. Much better advice: "If he gets out of the truck, yell, 'Look out he's headed right for us, and I think he's got a gun,' and shoot him in the head." Dead men can't sue.


You think shooting someone in the legs with a shotgun at close range isn't killing them? Nick the femoral artery in the inside of the thigh, and the dude is going to drop his entire blood supply where he is.

It won't be as fast as a CNS hit, but on the plus side, the mortician will be able to cover that up with just a set of trousers so he looks pretty in his casket. I'm sure his momma will appreciate that.
 
2012-12-07 10:40:22 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: "If he gets out of the truck, shoot him in the legs," Gerow reportedly told his son, who was holding a shotgun.

Terrible advice. Enjoy getting the shiat sued out of you if you carry out that plan. Much better advice: "If he gets out of the truck, yell, 'Look out he's headed right for us, and I think he's got a gun,' and shoot him in the head." Dead men can't sue.


This is Texas, not California or New York. If the homeowner shot you in the legs, and you tried to sue, odds on the jury would laugh you out of the courthouse, not give you any money. And it sounds like the homeowner had a pistol, but his son had a shotgun. If the son was some middle schooler or teenager, dad might have told him to shoot the guy in the legs because he didn't want to be responsible for his kid killing someone at that age.
 
2012-12-07 10:40:38 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Prank Call of Cthulhu

"If he gets out of the truck, shoot him in the legs," Gerow reportedly told his son, who was holding a shotgun.

Terrible advice. Enjoy getting the shiat sued out of you if you carry out that plan. Much better advice: "If he gets out of the truck, yell, 'Look out he's headed right for us, and I think he's got a gun,' and shoot him in the head." Dead men can't sue.


But the dead man's family can - and often will - sue.


Depends on the state. In some states, you cannot be subject to any legal jeopardy whatsoever for using reasonable force (up to, and including deadly force) to prevent a forcible felony.
 
2012-12-07 10:45:20 AM  

jaybeezey: Unppossible!

I was assured by Bob Costas that guns are only used by ignorant black athletes to kill baby mommas.


Bob Costas commenting on firearms regulations is about like me judging a dog show event. I can recognize a dog, name a few breeds, but beyond that I'm mostly ignorant on how to judge it. Bob Costas can identify a firearm, can tell you a pistol from a rifle, but beyond that he's ignorant and everything that has come out of his mouth since as shown that ignorance. The difference between me and Bob Costas is that I have good sense to know I don't know what the fark I'm talking about when it comes to judging a dog show and I keep my mouth shut, where Costas did not.
 
2012-12-07 10:45:26 AM  
According to Bob Costas, this guy would never have broken in if the owner did not have a gun. See? Nothing good comes from having a gun right Bob?
 
2012-12-07 10:45:53 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: Moore managed to reach his GMA pickup, but Gerow and his stepson successfully prevented him from leaving the scene by swiping his keys and blocking his exit with their car.

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I hope it was the Katy Couric edition


Wow, thats just creapy as fark...the pic that is.
 
2012-12-07 10:46:30 AM  
I have to say, I'm rather happy at how this turned out. Usually stories like this (especially in Texas) end up with someone on a slab. Justice was done, and nobody lost their life. I don't think there could have been a bettter ending to this situation.

And yeah, the "shoot him in the legs" thing... bad ju-ju. That's intentional maiming, and not covered under the lethal force rules...

Glad the perp was the smart one this time....
 
2012-12-07 10:48:14 AM  
www.thegunzone.com
 
2012-12-07 10:48:14 AM  

Cythraul: Did he not understand the risks that come with breaking and entering and attempted robbery of another person's property?


Some individuals -- including some Farkers -- believe that home invaders enjoy a right to burglarize property without fear of injury.
 
2012-12-07 10:48:59 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: Moore managed to reach his GMA pickup, but Gerow and his stepson successfully prevented him from leaving the scene by swiping his keys and blocking his exit with their car.

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 187x269]

I hope it was the Katy Couric edition


Of what relevance was your picture of The Joker?
 
2012-12-07 10:49:16 AM  

hdhale


Bob Costas commenting on firearms regulations is about like me judging a dog show event. I can recognize a dog, name a few breeds, but beyond that I'm mostly ignorant on how to judge it.


I've watched enough Westminster to be able to fake the poke-n-prod, look at the teeth, etc, but I would have to add the "go fetch", "speak", and "paw" tests as well. The difficult part would be keeping a straight face.
 
2012-12-07 10:50:21 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Prank Call of Cthulhu

"If he gets out of the truck, shoot him in the legs," Gerow reportedly told his son, who was holding a shotgun.

Terrible advice. Enjoy getting the shiat sued out of you if you carry out that plan. Much better advice: "If he gets out of the truck, yell, 'Look out he's headed right for us, and I think he's got a gun,' and shoot him in the head." Dead men can't sue.


But the dead man's family can - and often will - sue.


Maybe where you live, around these parts they do not. While they might claim wrongful death, proving it is near impossible in a situation like that.

But let ask you this...you are in your truck trying not to get your car seat wet with your own urine. Are you really thinking, "hey, if they kill me my family can sue the bastards!!!"?
 
2012-12-07 10:50:28 AM  
That is a rough looking 41
 
2012-12-07 10:51:09 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Englebert Slaptyback: Prank Call of Cthulhu

"If he gets out of the truck, shoot him in the legs," Gerow reportedly told his son, who was holding a shotgun.

Terrible advice. Enjoy getting the shiat sued out of you if you carry out that plan. Much better advice: "If he gets out of the truck, yell, 'Look out he's headed right for us, and I think he's got a gun,' and shoot him in the head." Dead men can't sue.


But the dead man's family can - and often will - sue.

Depends on the state. In some states, you cannot be subject to any legal jeopardy whatsoever for using reasonable force (up to, and including deadly force) to prevent a forcible felony.


This. Arizona just passed such a law (via ballot initiative) last month. The victim (or potential victim) of a felonious crime is not liable, or subject to suit, for any damages incurred by the attempt of, successful perpetration of, or flight from committing a felony.
 
2012-12-07 10:51:10 AM  

Dimensio: Cythraul: Did he not understand the risks that come with breaking and entering and attempted robbery of another person's property?

Some individuals -- including some Farkers -- believe that home invaders enjoy a right to burglarize property without fear of injury.


Hey! He was just trying to get his fair share.
 
2012-12-07 10:54:35 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: "If he gets out of the truck, shoot him in the legs," Gerow reportedly told his son, who was holding a shotgun.

Terrible advice. Enjoy getting the shiat sued out of you if you carry out that plan. Much better advice: "If he gets out of the truck, yell, 'Look out he's headed right for us, and I think he's got a gun,' and shoot him in the head." Dead men can't sue.


Chest. Always aim center of mass.
 
2012-12-07 10:54:55 AM  
My brother had his house broken into while he was at work a couple of months ago. He has an updated security system and lets his 90 lb puppy have free reign of the house but someone came back to his house twice, rooted around his barns for stuff to steal (he keeps them empty) and unscrewed his back porch light. I hope his dog eats their nuts if they ever get into the house again. I believe in castle laws and I believe that it is completely rational to conclude that a home invader wants to cause you harm so fark them.
 
2012-12-07 10:55:49 AM  

hdhale


Maybe where you live, around these parts they do not. While they might claim wrongful death, proving it is near impossible in a situation like that.


I didn't say they would win. I said they could sue.


But let ask you this...you are in your truck trying not to get your car seat wet with your own urine. Are you really thinking, "hey, if they kill me my family can sue the bastards!!!"?


The decision to sue would not rest with the decedent, so I doubt anyone in that particular situation would consider it.

Unless the guy put a clause in his will requesting that the family sue if he is ever killed in the commission of a crime, but that would just be weird.
 
2012-12-07 10:58:50 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: Moore managed to reach his GMA pickup, but Gerow and his stepson successfully prevented him from leaving the scene by swiping his keys and blocking his exit with their car.

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I hope it was the Katy Couric edition


Nope, you got it wrong...

binaryapi.ap.org
 
2012-12-07 11:01:09 AM  

hiker9999: Prank Call of Cthulhu: "If he gets out of the truck, shoot him in the legs," Gerow reportedly told his son, who was holding a shotgun.

Terrible advice. Enjoy getting the shiat sued out of you if you carry out that plan. Much better advice: "If he gets out of the truck, yell, 'Look out he's headed right for us, and I think he's got a gun,' and shoot him in the head." Dead men can't sue.

Chest. Always aim center of mass.


And always keep a 'clean' second firearm on-hand. :P There's a reason LEOs used to carry "throwdown pistols" on a regular basis.
 
2012-12-07 11:11:53 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Terrible advice. Enjoy getting the shiat sued out of you if you carry out that plan. Much better advice: "If he gets out of the truck, yell, 'Look out he's headed right for us, and I think he's got a gun,' and shoot him in the head." Dead men can't sue.


Caller doesn't appear to be black enough for that defense to work.
 
2012-12-07 11:19:13 AM  

CheekyMonkey: Cythraul: Did he not understand the risks that come with breaking and entering and attempted robbery of another person's property?

In Texas, no less. Dude is damn lucky he ran into a gun owner, and not a gun nut.


seems like less and less americans see a distinction between the two
 
GBB
2012-12-07 11:21:28 AM  

RoyHobbs22: 911 Operator: Sorry sir, we are just going to send the medical examiner.


More like, "Sir, who is your next of kin?"
 
2012-12-07 11:25:56 AM  

xaratherus:
This. Arizona just passed such a law (via ballot initiative) last month. The victim (or potential victim) of a felonious crime is not liable, or subject to suit, for any damages incurred by the attempt of, successful perpetration of, or flight from committing a felony.


Arizona was one I had in mind when I commented. Indiana is another. I won't quote the whole statute, but here's the relevant part:

IC 35-41-3-2
Use of force to protect person or property

(c) A person is justified in using reasonable force against any other person to protect the person or a third person from what the person reasonably believes to be the imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person:
(1) is justified in using deadly force; and
(2) does not have a duty to retreat;
if the person reasonably believes that that force is necessary to prevent serious bodily injury to the person or a third person or the commission of a forcible felony. No person in this state shall be placed in legal jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting the person or a third person by reasonable means necessary. 
 
2012-12-07 11:28:58 AM  
I'm not surprised by the thief's stupidity calling the police and the statement (easy evidence day), but rather the guy getting robbed let the thief call somebody

/DNRTA
/"what, you gonna call the cops and say that I'm gonna shoot you? Try me" is what I like to think the guy said
 
2012-12-07 11:34:44 AM  
the story seems fishy/lacks details. I'm going to guess the guy was drunk/high, entered the wrong house, and was confused (wondering why people with guns were sleeping in his house)

not much of a 'break in' since the doors were unlocked, and when confronted the suspect said he was 'unlucky' .. no mention of actually stealing anything in the story

-Munch "it's easy to have the facts on your side, when your the only side presented" Wolf
 
2012-12-07 11:36:04 AM  
I'm sure this perp has no true sense of entitlement honed from years of receiving government assistance but rather has been makin significant contributions to society.
 
2012-12-07 11:36:04 AM  

MunchWolf: . no mention of actually stealing anything in the story


FTFA: "Just unlucky, I guess," replied Moore, who admitted to having "bad intentions."

 
2012-12-07 11:36:57 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: hdhale

Bob Costas commenting on firearms regulations is about like me judging a dog show event. I can recognize a dog, name a few breeds, but beyond that I'm mostly ignorant on how to judge it.


I've watched enough Westminster to be able to fake the poke-n-prod, look at the teeth, etc, but I would have to add the "go fetch", "speak", and "paw" tests as well. The difficult part would be keeping a straight face.


You are still way ahead of Bob Costas.

In a recent interview on Bill O'Reilly's show, Costas constantly referred to military style semiautomatic rifles as 'artillery'. While a 7.62 mm round isn't exactly something that is spit out of a pellet gun, it isn't an artillery piece either. He like many people who are ignorant of weaponry, seem to envision anything that looks military as being able to throw hundreds of rounds downrange in an instant (perhaps they watched "Scarface" one too many times) when the reality is something completely different.

Example: The semiautomatic version of the AK-47 has a cyclical rate of fire of 600 rounds/minute. In reality, the semiautomatic rate of fire is more like 40 round/minute. A standard magazine holds 30 rounds, which practically speaking further reduces the rate of fire. Even if you decide to go with a notoriously unreliable (and expensive) 100 round barrel clip, the semiautomatic rate of fire still applies.

Costas seems to pride himself on accurate reporting, has many years of experience, and as with all devoted baseball fans, has an obsession with statistics, and for integrity generally. With that pedigree, I expected better from him, even on a subject where he was clearly over his head and out of his element.
 
2012-12-07 11:37:05 AM  
Reminds me of this

Missed Connection
 
2012-12-07 11:37:57 AM  
Go Ahead. Piss yourself ... we'lll clean it up ...

weaponsman.com
 
2012-12-07 11:40:21 AM  
A better ending would have been ...

"Bang, and nothing of value was lost that day."
 
2012-12-07 11:44:33 AM  

Pathman: CheekyMonkey: Cythraul: Did he not understand the risks that come with breaking and entering and attempted robbery of another person's property?

In Texas, no less. Dude is damn lucky he ran into a gun owner, and not a gun nut.

seems like less and less americans see a distinction between the two


Yeah, I know, but I think that's a "squeaky wheel" sort of a thing. Gun nuts make news. Rational gun owners, not so much...
 
2012-12-07 11:47:15 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Prank Call of Cthulhu

"If he gets out of the truck, shoot him in the legs," Gerow reportedly told his son, who was holding a shotgun.

Terrible advice. Enjoy getting the shiat sued out of you if you carry out that plan. Much better advice: "If he gets out of the truck, yell, 'Look out he's headed right for us, and I think he's got a gun,' and shoot him in the head." Dead men can't sue.


But the dead man's family can - and often will - sue.


Yes, but if one person is dead, the others can make up any story they want, about how the dead guy jumped up at them and started beating them up, and the only option was to kill the unarmed person.
 
2012-12-07 11:50:03 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: "If he gets out of the truck, shoot him in the legs," Gerow reportedly told his son, who was holding a shotgun.

Terrible advice. Enjoy getting the shiat sued out of you if you carry out that plan. Much better advice: "If he gets out of the truck, yell, 'Look out he's headed right for us, and I think he's got a gun,' and shoot him in the head." Dead men can't sue.


A gun should not be used to wound, to coerce, or control (at least not by civilians). It should be used to neutralize the threat, and the usual surest of doing that is as many rounds to center of mass as it takes until the threat is passed. I, personally would not draw a gun until I needed to shoot, but then would not shoot to wound (or at least that is what I think I would do. It is all ITG talk until there is someone in my house at 3 am and I have to make a snap decision).
 
2012-12-07 11:51:01 AM  

MycroftHolmes: Yes, but if one person is dead, the others can make up any story they want, about how the dead guy jumped up at them and started beating them up, and the only option was to kill the unarmed person.


*cough*Treyvon Martin*cough*
 
2012-12-07 11:52:00 AM  

Dimensio: Cythraul: Did he not understand the risks that come with breaking and entering and attempted robbery of another person's property?

Some individuals -- including some Farkers -- believe that home invaders enjoy a right to burglarize property without fear of injury.


I never understood the argument 'No property is worth killing for'. That seems to put the burden on the wrong party. If it isn't your property, the statement should be 'no property is worth dying for'.
 
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