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(Network World)   BlackBerry blacklists Winnie-the-Pooh gang. Oh, bother   (networkworld.com) divider line 15
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2012-12-07 10:03:54 AM
Does not approve.

images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-12-07 10:09:42 AM
I bet Mr. Sanders is allowed though.
 
2012-12-07 11:32:01 AM
Dear RIM,
Start releasing phones based on either Android or Win8 (Android is likely the better bet) that offers enhanced communications apps. A whole suite of mail, message, and VOIP apps that offer a lot of usability and security over the standard stuff. Also toss in some additional features on the phone for virus/intrusion scanning, data wiping for theft, etc that exceeds the out of the box capabilities.

Couple that device with your skill in making physical keyboards (I dislike them, but I understand you make good ones and a lot of people love that). Then you can dominate the "business Android phone" market. You might live. No one wants your crappy operating system though, even the VP you took out to a golf junket in an attempt to get our business had an iPhone in his pocket.
 
2012-12-07 11:34:28 AM
Why did they need a blacklist of over a hundred passwords? That implies a userbase larger than a hundred or so.
 
2012-12-07 11:41:50 AM
Not that I'd ever use a simple name as a password, but I hate it when websites try to force me to have what they consider a "secure" password. My cellphone company recently made customers change their password to their website for "security" reasons and by the time I got something they would accept it was so convoluted I had to write the damn thing down so I could remember it, how secure is that?
 
2012-12-07 11:46:40 AM

ha-ha-guy: Dear RIM,
Start releasing phones based on either Android or Win8 (Android is likely the better bet) that offers enhanced communications apps. A whole suite of mail, message, and VOIP apps that offer a lot of usability and security over the standard stuff. Also toss in some additional features on the phone for virus/intrusion scanning, data wiping for theft, etc that exceeds the out of the box capabilities.

Couple that device with your skill in making physical keyboards (I dislike them, but I understand you make good ones and a lot of people love that). Then you can dominate the "business Android phone" market. You might live. No one wants your crappy operating system though, even the VP you took out to a golf junket in an attempt to get our business had an iPhone in his pocket.


"Dear guy who doesn't understand the cell phone market or what RIM is doing. We went to the carriers and asked about their interest in adopting a device from us running Android... they said if we did that, our phones wouldn't be in their stores"

Seriously, RIM has no choice... If they want a mobile device, they have to bake their own OS. They're also going beyond smartphones. They're looking to build a mobile computing platform. we're talking 5-10 years into the future not some overnight clone of Android and iOS.

stock is hovering around $12 today, which is an almost 70% gain in 3 months... Debt free, spends the most on R&D of any company in Canada. owns QNX. people called for the demise of RIM a few years back and yet they've actually turned themselves around. Imagine is they hadn't been so stubborn in the first place!
 
2012-12-07 11:47:51 AM

LazarusLong42: Why did they need a blacklist of over a hundred passwords? That implies a userbase larger than a hundred or so.


Well they've got 80 Million subscribers, just none in North America.
 
2012-12-07 02:07:21 PM

Cooper420: ha-ha-guy: Dear RIM,
Start releasing phones based on either Android or Win8 (Android is likely the better bet) that offers enhanced communications apps. A whole suite of mail, message, and VOIP apps that offer a lot of usability and security over the standard stuff. Also toss in some additional features on the phone for virus/intrusion scanning, data wiping for theft, etc that exceeds the out of the box capabilities.

Couple that device with your skill in making physical keyboards (I dislike them, but I understand you make good ones and a lot of people love that). Then you can dominate the "business Android phone" market. You might live. No one wants your crappy operating system though, even the VP you took out to a golf junket in an attempt to get our business had an iPhone in his pocket.

"Dear guy who doesn't understand the cell phone market or what RIM is doing. We went to the carriers and asked about their interest in adopting a device from us running Android... they said if we did that, our phones wouldn't be in their stores"

Seriously, RIM has no choice... If they want a mobile device, they have to bake their own OS. They're also going beyond smartphones. They're looking to build a mobile computing platform. we're talking 5-10 years into the future not some overnight clone of Android and iOS.

stock is hovering around $12 today, which is an almost 70% gain in 3 months... Debt free, spends the most on R&D of any company in Canada. owns QNX. people called for the demise of RIM a few years back and yet they've actually turned themselves around. Imagine is they hadn't been so stubborn in the first place!


Dear RIM enthusiast: Dropping 30% +/- of your workforce does not automatically equate to "turning themselves around".
Signed,
Used to be RIM employee
 
2012-12-07 02:09:29 PM
So the 10 of you using Blackberrys, are going to have to get creative with your passwords.
 
2012-12-07 02:30:42 PM

Dreyelle: Cooper420: ha-ha-guy: Dear RIM,
Start releasing phones based on either Android or Win8 (Android is likely the better bet) that offers enhanced communications apps. A whole suite of mail, message, and VOIP apps that offer a lot of usability and security over the standard stuff. Also toss in some additional features on the phone for virus/intrusion scanning, data wiping for theft, etc that exceeds the out of the box capabilities.

Couple that device with your skill in making physical keyboards (I dislike them, but I understand you make good ones and a lot of people love that). Then you can dominate the "business Android phone" market. You might live. No one wants your crappy operating system though, even the VP you took out to a golf junket in an attempt to get our business had an iPhone in his pocket.

"Dear guy who doesn't understand the cell phone market or what RIM is doing. We went to the carriers and asked about their interest in adopting a device from us running Android... they said if we did that, our phones wouldn't be in their stores"

Seriously, RIM has no choice... If they want a mobile device, they have to bake their own OS. They're also going beyond smartphones. They're looking to build a mobile computing platform. we're talking 5-10 years into the future not some overnight clone of Android and iOS.

stock is hovering around $12 today, which is an almost 70% gain in 3 months... Debt free, spends the most on R&D of any company in Canada. owns QNX. people called for the demise of RIM a few years back and yet they've actually turned themselves around. Imagine is they hadn't been so stubborn in the first place!

Dear RIM enthusiast: Dropping 30% +/- of your workforce does not automatically equate to "turning themselves around".
Signed,
Used to be RIM employee


I said nothing about cutting the workforce as being a magic bullet to save the company. In the short term it cost them a lot. They paid out severance of 1 month per year worked, cash for unused vacation time and benefits would last until the end of 2012 (4-6 months of benefits after being fired is pretty awesome).... at least that's what the Canadian employees got. I knew 6 people to get laid off from RIM... I still know another dozen that work there. I've been to private sessions on BB10 and their updates BES. I've seen their real vision for the future (guess what it's not to compete in the consumer market of toys... it's mobile computing. REAL mobile computing.
 
2012-12-07 02:50:11 PM

Dreyelle: Dear RIM enthusiast: Dropping 30% +/- of your workforce does not automatically equate to "turning themselves around".
Signed,
Used to be RIM employee


I guess they must be giving slick presentations about the future though, so they're generating buzz or some shiat. Which means diddly and squat when Google is devouring your market share though. RIM has strong low end device sales, but their premier ones keep face planting.

RIM is at the point where you can get free licenses for BB10 backend by trading in your old licenses. If MS was giving away Windows Server 2012 for free, I'd consider that a very bad sign and RIM is basically doing that. It better work, because a failed BB10 rollout likely means RIM's future is getting gobbled up for their patents.

/I assume their plan is to get the corporate networks on BES and thus generate handset sales after Corporate IT rules "Only Blackberries on the company network"
//give away the razor to sell razor blades
/still it used to be that they could charge for the razor and razor blades
 
2012-12-07 03:37:42 PM

ha-ha-guy: Dreyelle: Dear RIM enthusiast: Dropping 30% +/- of your workforce does not automatically equate to "turning themselves around".
Signed,
Used to be RIM employee

I guess they must be giving slick presentations about the future though, so they're generating buzz or some shiat. Which means diddly and squat when Google is devouring your market share though. RIM has strong low end device sales, but their premier ones keep face planting.

RIM is at the point where you can get free licenses for BB10 backend by trading in your old licenses. If MS was giving away Windows Server 2012 for free, I'd consider that a very bad sign and RIM is basically doing that. It better work, because a failed BB10 rollout likely means RIM's future is getting gobbled up for their patents.

/I assume their plan is to get the corporate networks on BES and thus generate handset sales after Corporate IT rules "Only Blackberries on the company network"
//give away the razor to sell razor blades
/still it used to be that they could charge for the razor and razor blades


They've gotta give away the free BES because most companies are not going to spend the time, money and effort to switch to the 'new BES' which requires a brand new setup... I've got a friend at Raytheon and they only use BB's but refuse to give money for new BES. no new BES no new BB10 devices.

Leveraging MDM4 and MDM5 to manage Android + iOS gives a little bit of a security blanket. But RIM like any other company would prefer you stay in their entire ecosystem.

With 23 years at Siemens and a Master's in Science and Physics... he's a smart man and I think it's best we see his vision unfold before we really drop the hammer down.

Trust me, I'm a huge RIM supporter but I absolutely understand the monstrous challenges they'll face the next 3-5 years. They don't expect to win everyone back overnight or even in a year... it's completely different.

They can't even market like Google or Apple, they need to be unique.
 
2012-12-07 06:34:18 PM

ha-ha-guy: RIM is at the point where you can get free licenses for BB10 backend by trading in your old licenses.


They have to. BES client access licenses are about $100 a user without a group discount, and they were lifetime before (as in, before BB10). You'd pay to upgrade the server from major version to major version, but your CALs carried over. If you had a support program, they'd charge you an annual fee based on the number of CALs you were using, but the price per user wasn't anywhere near as high as a CAL. For example, I think our company still has 2,500 BES CALs, and the majority of those were purchased between versions 3 and 4, but we're running version 5.1 now. We didn't have to buy new CALs for each server upgrade.

When they announced BB10, they announced all new CALs and gave the server away for free, which was bullshiat. The majority of any money spent on a BES system in the past was for CALs, and they were priced so high because it was understood that they carried over from one server generation to the next. One of the reasons we aren't particularly interested in pushing a BB10 deployment is because for the 2,000 or so remaining BB users we have we'd have to shell out another $100 each for another CAL if they upgrade to a BB10 device (realistically, we'd probably pay about $60 a user with a group discount). If the users keep a device with version 7.1 or lower we can migrate those CALs to the new BB10 server for free, but that's only until those people upgrade their phones.

So we're looking at $120,000 to put our BB users on a new environment just for client licenses, or we can go with another product and tell people to buy something other than BlackBerry. Guess what we're doing?
 
2012-12-07 11:01:14 PM
FTFA: Calvin is banned, but not hobbes.

Silly blogger! All the kids wanna be like Calvin Coolidge!
 
2012-12-10 02:32:03 PM
Is the author trying to seem dense for the sake of an attempt at humor? There's an obvious single answer to all of the author's questions: The password policy isn't thought out on some movie-by-movie, show-by-show, or book-by-book basis; RIM simply rounded up the most commonly used passwords. They couldn't give a flying fark if it's consistent with their policy toward other terms from the same series or genre. If "Calvin" is banned, but not "Hobbes", it means more people were using "Calvin". Obviously too many people were using Winnie the Pooh names. There's no big mystery in any of this.
 
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