steamingpile: Yeah he was a douche but NIU does not deserve to be in a BCS bowl
Dafatone: Either the MAC is FBS or the MAC isn't. Make a choice.Having a few conferences worth of teams that are FBS but not BCSworthy is dumb.
Flacman: As an NIU grad student all I can say is that I understand why Herbstreit is mad but hey man, rules are rules. Last time I checked this game didn't really matter- only the national championship does. No other bowl game matters- they are just gifts handed out at the end of the season as the "thank yous for playing". Its every college football "ESPN expert" to want the best match-ups because it leads to the most compelling games and stories. But the BCS isn't about that- its about selecting 2 teams for the national championship and everything else just doesn't matter as much.
StRalphTheLiar: steamingpile: Yeah he was a douche but NIU does not deserve to be in a BCS bowlDon't blame them, blame the Big 10 and Big East for producing crappy champions which opened the door to NIU's qualification. They deserve it more than Wisconsin does. Wisconsin finished third out of 6 in their division, and their resume includes a 2 pt win over Utah St. and a 5 pt win over FCS Northern Iowa.
BoxOfBees: Why else would he whine so much about it?
Flacman: (Not that the payout will help NIU or the MAC as both will take a big financial hit from the game)
kwame: BoxOfBees: Why else would he whine so much about it?Because he's a douche bag and he gets paid to talk about things like that. There's no ulterior motive. He's just an ass.
HMS_Blinkin: Flacman: (Not that the payout will help NIU or the MAC as both will take a big financial hit from the game)How on earth is NIU going to lose money from going to a BCS bowl?
ChrisDe: There's a required minimum ticket amount that they have to buy (something like 17,000?), but their conference is making sure that NIU doesn't take a financial hit doing that. There's no way they lose money on a $17 million (or more) payout.
StRalphTheLiar: Basically the school is required by the bowl to sell a certain number of tickets. Anything they don't sell, the school itself purchases. A large part of the bowl payout is actually paid to the conference though, so the school's share of the payout can be less than the cost of unsold tickets.
IAmRight: ChrisDe: There's a required minimum ticket amount that they have to buy (something like 17,000?), but their conference is making sure that NIU doesn't take a financial hit doing that. There's no way they lose money on a $17 million (or more) payout.First they whine that the small-time programs no one gives a sh*t about don't get in on the BCS bowls because no one wants to watch them. Then they get into the bigger bowls and they whine because no one wants to watch them and they lose money.CREATE A PRODUCT PEOPLE WANT TO WATCH instead of whining about how you're being oppressed.Gotta say NIU isn't whining. Farkers, on the other hand....
Bluestab: I agree about NIU shouldn't be in there. Also think UGA got the short end as well thanks to placing limitations on how many teams a conference can send to a BCS game. Except for the Championship game, the rest of the BCS games are all fluff anyway. The BCS was put in place to decide/justify a matchup for the national championship. The rest of the games are there to make sure the conferences are on board with the extra money pay-outs.Just about every year they throw one of these small teams in. I think they do it to punish them for thinking their schedules justify them the same respect as a BCS-AQ. I think FSU will destroy them...a repeat of UGA vs. HW in the '08 Sugar Bowl. But there are always those matchups where the would-be victim turns the table like Boise State in the '07 Fiesta Bowl or Utah did to Alabama in the '09 Sugar Bowl.
ChrisDe: Gotta say NIU isn't whining. Farkers, on the other hand....
ChrisDe: They didn't "throw" NIU in there, NIU qualified by the BCS rules. Which will probably be changed so it doesn't happen again.
IAmRight: ChrisDe: They didn't "throw" NIU in there, NIU qualified by the BCS rules. Which will probably be changed so it doesn't happen again.Already being changed by going to a playoff system.
ChrisDe: Yeah, I knew there were some changes coming up. Top 4 playoff, right? But I'm not sure if the other bowl rules are also changing or not next season.
Why Would I Read the Article: We've watched shiatburger teams like Cincinnatti and Pitt and west virginia make BCS bowls, so why should we be so upset about northern illinois? Everyone knows the BCS is a sham. What we should really be upset about is the sham game we're getting for the championship. The Orange Bowl should be the least of our concerns.
Bluestab: I think FSU will destroy them...a repeat of UGA vs. HW in the '08 Sugar Bowl.
ChrisDe: Yeah, I knew there were some changes coming up. Top 4 playoff, right? But I'm not sure if the other bowl rules are also changing or not next season
birchman: they've spent the last 10 years saying how the current system is awesome
BoxOfBees: Could it be that Herbstreit is worried about NIU getting national exposure and becoming a viable option for recruits who want to start for a good NIU team instead of being backups at Ohio St? Why else would he whine so much about it? Clearly he has something to lose here. I don't think it's just because ESPN might not get great ratings for the game. I think he is seriously worried that his team - Ohio St. - is going to miss out on something.
GQueue: ChrisDe: Yeah, I knew there were some changes coming up. Top 4 playoff, right? But I'm not sure if the other bowl rules are also changing or not next seasonUnder the new rules Northern Illinois STILL would have made one of the big money bowls. The top ranked of the Big East, Conference USA, Mountain West, MAC and Sun Belt teams gets an automatic slot in the new system. Northern Illinois is the highest ranked of anyone in those conferences.
Team Conference Qualified BCS Points1 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Independent At -Large #1 0.99782 Alabama Crimson Tide SEC Champion 0.94413 Florida Gators SEC At -Large #2 0.86264 Oregon Ducks Pac-12 At-Large #3 0.86215 Kansas State Wildcats Big 12 Champion 0.82266 Stanford Cardinal Pac-12 Champion 0.76837 Georgia Bulldogs SEC At-Large #4 0.75838 LSU Tigers SEC At-Large #5 0.75119 Florida State Seminoles ACC Champion 0.504710 Northern Illinois Huskies MAC Champion 0.327611 Boise State Broncos MWC Champion 0.251312 Louisville Cardinals Big East Champion 0.180813 Utah State Aggies WAC Champion 0.178714 Wisconsin Big 10 Champion 0.054515 Tulsa Golden Hurricanes Conference USA Champion 0.015516 Arkansas State Red Wolves Sun Belt Champion 0.0067
ChrisDe: And the Big East had a automatic slot but lost it in the new format, is that correct
LucklessWonder: Championship Game#1 Notre Dame vs. #2 Alabama
Brother_Mouzone: What will happen when NIU wins?
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