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(Radio Ink)   The holiday season wouldn't be complete without the Annual Clear Channel Christmas Bloodbath   (radioink.com) divider line 72
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2012-12-07 07:32:16 AM  
Romney is back at work at Bain Capital.
 
2012-12-07 07:32:49 AM  
BAINED!!!

El Rushbo better start worrying about CC going bankrupt.....ooops no more contract.
/who am I kidding.....
 
2012-12-07 07:35:04 AM  
So who got laid off? Talent? Staff? Sales Weasels?
 
2012-12-07 07:38:15 AM  

BalugaJoe: Romney is back at work at Bain Capital.


This was the CC plan all along regardless of what happened in November.

Cumulus blew out a bunch of people this week, too.

One day the empty suits that run these two companies will be skewered from eye socket to bunghole and then placed on a spit so that their flesh can be roasted by the searing gale of flatus which issues forth from the haunches of Asmoday.
 
2012-12-07 07:50:03 AM  
And they have no one to blame but Capitalists.

And perhaps the invisible hand of the Free Market.
 
2012-12-07 07:55:07 AM  
I need either more coffee or better glasses, I read "Annual Clear Channel Christmas Bloodbath" as "Animal Cruelty Channel Christmas Bloodbath" and actually wondered out loud if there was actually an Animal Cruelty channel...

/the real story still sucks, but not as bad as promo clip for the Animal Cruelty Channel's Christmas Bloodbath running in my head.
 
2012-12-07 07:57:56 AM  
In private enterprise, sometimes people lose their jobs. Until the unicorns start paying taxes, somebody has to turn a profit so government can take it off of them and give it to the 47%.
 
2012-12-07 08:18:21 AM  

jjorsett: In private enterprise, sometimes people lose their jobs. Until the unicorns start paying taxes, somebody has to turn a profit so government can take it off of them and give it to the 47%.


Except in CC's case, they have to take care of the enormous leech (Bain) stuck to their backside first.
 
2012-12-07 08:18:37 AM  
The collapse of Clear Channel *is* good news for people who actually like their local radio to be, y'know, local.

But, sadly, these layoffs seem to be more air and support staff yet again -- people who have tried to stay in the business as CC slashes and burns it.

I'll celebrate a lot more when it's Clear Channel senior management getting shiatcanned and forced to compete for jobs sucking the farts out of Greyhound seats.
 
2012-12-07 08:25:10 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The collapse of Clear Channel *is* good news for people who actually like their local radio to be, y'know, local.

But, sadly, these layoffs seem to be more air and support staff yet again -- people who have tried to stay in the business as CC slashes and burns it.

I'll celebrate a lot more when it's Clear Channel senior management getting shiatcanned and forced to compete for jobs sucking the farts out of Greyhound seats.


Ithink you mean 'if'? Those parasites will likely be sucking the life out of another industry soon enough. Yay American corporate culture.
 
2012-12-07 08:56:30 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: But, sadly, these layoffs seem to be more air and support staff yet again -- people who have tried to stay in the business as CC slashes and burns it.


Jack FM
Employing who we want   
 
2012-12-07 09:02:15 AM  

StrikitRich: So who got laid off? Talent? Staff? Sales Weasels?


Wait. CC has talent?

/thanks for ruining broadcast radio, jerkoffs
//Sirius FTW
 
2012-12-07 09:02:27 AM  
I listen in Orlando sometimes and noticed they shiatcanned a lot of people from everything I heard yesterday.
 
2012-12-07 09:05:41 AM  
Damn you, Napster! *shakes fist*
 
2012-12-07 09:11:21 AM  
I always get a chuckle when our local alternative station does their little station identification: "102.5, locally owned and operated. NOT CLEAR CHANNEL"

/Fark Clear Channel
 
2012-12-07 09:25:20 AM  
I still listen to terrestrial radio, but they're all public, local stations like college radio, NPR, or one of the community stations. What future market is there for a rock block of Billy Squier broadcast to 5 million people, of which only 8 want to hear?

/ok, only 7 people want to hear a rock block of Billy Squier
 
2012-12-07 09:26:09 AM  
It does seem awfully mean to lay people off just a few weeks before Christmas. But if given the choice, I would rather be laid off a few weeks before Christmas than to be laid off after I've spent a bunch of money in connection with this time of year.

Also, companies exist to make a profit, not provide jobs. Why should any company retain workers that aren't needed just because they're not in the red?
 
2012-12-07 09:32:25 AM  
Clear Channel has certainly done its share to ruin radio in America. We never should have allowed complete aggregation of media, everything being owned by 3-4 giant companies drives the quality into the shiatter.
 
2012-12-07 09:35:34 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: It does seem awfully mean to lay people off just a few weeks before Christmas. But if given the choice, I would rather be laid off a few weeks before Christmas than to be laid off after I've spent a bunch of money in connection with this time of year.

Also, companies exist to make a profit, not provide jobs. Why should any company retain workers that aren't needed just because they're not in the red?


Taking your argument a bit farther...radio stations exist to serve the public interest of a community. Why should any government license a station that isn't needed because there are already seven other stations churning out pap programmed from 2000 miles away?

In pretty much any given city you could take at least half the stations dark and they would not be missed at all.
 
2012-12-07 09:45:55 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I still listen to terrestrial radio, but they're all public, local stations like college radio, NPR, or one of the community stations. What future market is there for a rock block of Billy Squier broadcast to 5 million people, of which only 8 want to hear?

/ok, only 7 people want to hear a rock block of Billy Squier


Nobody wants to hear a rock block of Billy Squier. Now, watching him prance and roll around the floor in a pastel tank top...hold me back.
 
2012-12-07 09:52:05 AM  
The Telecommunications Act of 1996, is one of the least talked about bills Clinton signed that killed our country from the inside.
 
2012-12-07 09:54:59 AM  
Great.

I have a ten year career in radio, and recently left it to try something new.

Well...I'm miserable in my new job, and this week began looking for new radio gigs, hoping for anything full-time in a small or mid sized market.

A thousand laid off Clear Channel people flooding the job pool is not what I need right now.

I am so stupid, stupid, STUPID for leaving my last gig. It was about as good as radio gets.

/Hate myself.
 
2012-12-07 10:10:25 AM  
19 years on the air they let Uncle Nasty go from KBPI in Denver.
 
2012-12-07 10:28:49 AM  
I'm not going to touch the Bain Capital issue on Commercial Channel, but the problem is self defeating advertising sales.

They sell too many ads for too little money. Leading to five minute commercial blocks in an era of iPods and satellite radio.

If they were to cut back on ad minutes and raise ad rates because listeners will be less likely to wander off between sets if they know it's one ad then the system might work. But no one selling ads can utter the idea.
 
2012-12-07 10:37:52 AM  

wildcardjack: If they were to cut back on ad minutes and raise ad rates because listeners will be less likely to wander off between sets if they know it's one ad then the system might work. But no one selling ads can utter the idea.


For that you have to have programming that makes it worth sticking around through the breaks - in other words, the kind of programming that was homogenized and bean-counted out of existence.

Let me pose a question to NYC/NJ-area farkers: out of all the stations in the area, how many had their shiat together during Sandy and how many sat there happily burbling out Fleetwood Mac, Rihanna and One Direction like nothing strange was happening?
 
2012-12-07 10:47:43 AM  
The local morning personalities by me (Madison, WI) got the ax a couple months ago. It's a ClearChannel station. The new morning show is some people out of New York who seem to spend all their time laughing at each other while not actually being funny.

I don't listen to the morning show anymore. I'm considering an Internet radio. Do those exist?
 
2012-12-07 10:52:43 AM  
i.imgur.com

Approves of Christmas bloodbaths.
 
2012-12-07 11:02:50 AM  

Gunny Walker: Mr. Coffee Nerves: But, sadly, these layoffs seem to be more air and support staff yet again -- people who have tried to stay in the business as CC slashes and burns it.

Jack FM
Employing who we want nothing but salespeople


Spots and promos are cut at a central location for all Jack stations, they don't need The Morning Drive Time Explosion (Now With More Boobs!) crew, they don't need web guys (1and1mywebsite, y'all!), they barely need a PD, they sure as shiat don't need ombudspeople...
 
2012-12-07 11:28:37 AM  

doczoidberg: Great.

I have a ten year career in radio, and recently left it to try something new.

Well...I'm miserable in my new job, and this week began looking for new radio gigs, hoping for anything full-time in a small or mid sized market.

A thousand laid off Clear Channel people flooding the job pool is not what I need right now.

I am so stupid, stupid, STUPID for leaving my last gig. It was about as good as radio gets.

/Hate myself.


I left radio 6 years ago.

My problem? I've hated all the jobs I've worked in since then, but I can't complain about the paycheck. I loved working in radio, but I was working for little to no pay.

My friends who are my age who are still working in radio are either single or their wives are the breadwinners and out earn them 2 to 1 (at least).

I have a friend who is a consultant who still talks to me about possible jobs. And as much as I'd love to say yes, I've put down roots here, and I don't think I can get past it now.
 
2012-12-07 11:29:14 AM  

BalugaJoe: Romney is back at work at Bain Capital.


this has nothing to do with Romney. If you think Romney is scum you've never experience what kind of scum is in clear channel.
 
2012-12-07 11:32:12 AM  

Gulper Eel: wildcardjack: If they were to cut back on ad minutes and raise ad rates because listeners will be less likely to wander off between sets if they know it's one ad then the system might work. But no one selling ads can utter the idea.

For that you have to have programming that makes it worth sticking around through the breaks - in other words, the kind of programming that was homogenized and bean-counted out of existence.

Let me pose a question to NYC/NJ-area farkers: out of all the stations in the area, how many had their shiat together during Sandy and how many sat there happily burbling out Fleetwood Mac, Rihanna and One Direction like nothing strange was happening?



Want to hear the irony? New Jersey 101.5, *THE* New Jersey radio station, got knocked off-line over the air because of storm damage from Monday night into Tuesday during the storm, and then was intermittent because of power failures. When they did get back online, they didn't have phones for a bit, so it was just the hosts talking. From what I heard, they still could go on over the internet, so they had that going for them, but a lot of people didn't have power or thought of the idea to get the 101.5 app on their phone.
 
2012-12-07 11:35:36 AM  
I should also point out though - 101.5 did an AMAZING job during the storm coverage when they were on the air.
 
2012-12-07 11:50:03 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I still listen to terrestrial radio, but they're all public, local stations like college radio, NPR, or one of the community stations. What future market is there for a rock block of Billy Squier broadcast to 5 million people, of which only 8 want to hear?

/ok, only 7 people want to hear a rock block of Billy Squier


Whadda you want? Everybody wants the stroke in the dark - especially my kind of lover!
 
2012-12-07 12:19:15 PM  
Have you noticed more radio stations like my Local "Jack FM" that run a lot of between-song promos bragging about how they don't take any requests 'cause that's just how hardcore they are?

If you listen long enough you'll also notice something else you never hear: Any on-air talent at all. No Dj announcing the next song, doing banter, announcing upcoming local events, nothing. Conclusion: the radio station is essentially nothing more than a speaker system for some PD's Ipod playlist, and god knows how many other stations are robo-playing the same feed
 
2012-12-07 12:24:03 PM  
After reading this thread I now have Billy Squire tunes running through my head and want to kill someone.
 
2012-12-07 12:27:07 PM  

enry: StrikitRich: So who got laid off? Talent? Staff? Sales Weasels?

Wait. CC has talent?

/thanks for ruining broadcast radio, jerkoffs
//Sirius FTW


FTL you mean, The same idiot that ruined terrestrial radio is the driving force behind Sirius and it shows. Years back my wife got me XM radio for christmas because I had a 3 hour total commute everyday, and I LOVED it. I love all kinds of music, and more than anything else, I love hearing something new, that I've l never heard before that's also good, and Xm intorduced me to tons of artists and songs I never knew existed.

I let the subscription lapse after I ended up working much closer to home and rarely was in the car for more than 15 min a day for commuting.

But recently, when I went to rent a car for 10-hr road trip I made sure it had a working Sirius radio in it, cause of my fond memories of the service.

Long story short, I was stunned at how badly it sucked now. Little Steven's Channel was okay but most of the other channels SUCKED, and a shocking number had commercials on them. After about 45 min I ended up using the car's sync feature to plug in my Ipod and listened to that instead.
 
2012-12-07 12:27:56 PM  

Delawheredad: After reading this thread I now have Billy Squire tunes running through my head and want to kill someone.


Oh stroke me.
 
2012-12-07 12:43:42 PM  

Magorn: Have you noticed more radio stations like my Local "Jack FM" that run a lot of between-song promos bragging about how they don't take any requests 'cause that's just how hardcore they are?

If you listen long enough you'll also notice something else you never hear: Any on-air talent at all. No Dj announcing the next song, doing banter, announcing upcoming local events, nothing. Conclusion: the radio station is essentially nothing more than a speaker system for some PD's Ipod playlist, and god knows how many other stations are robo-playing the same feed


That's the plan. JACKFM is getting to be everywhere. You are more likely to hear a DJ at the Sonic Drive-In than on radio these days.
 
2012-12-07 12:47:08 PM  

MattyFridays: doczoidberg: Great.

I have a ten year career in radio, and recently left it to try something new.

Well...I'm miserable in my new job, and this week began looking for new radio gigs, hoping for anything full-time in a small or mid sized market.

A thousand laid off Clear Channel people flooding the job pool is not what I need right now.

I am so stupid, stupid, STUPID for leaving my last gig. It was about as good as radio gets.

/Hate myself.

I left radio 6 years ago.

My problem? I've hated all the jobs I've worked in since then, but I can't complain about the paycheck. I loved working in radio, but I was working for little to no pay.

My friends who are my age who are still working in radio are either single or their wives are the breadwinners and out earn them 2 to 1 (at least).

I have a friend who is a consultant who still talks to me about possible jobs. And as much as I'd love to say yes, I've put down roots here, and I don't think I can get past it now.


I got laid off by CC 6 years ago. My job since then has sucked. But hey the money isnt too bad and th people are mostly ok. But I do miss not having a dress code or just checking out the new intern going by in her little booty shorts, free drinks at bars and tickets. Great now you got me depressed jerk.
 
2012-12-07 01:37:40 PM  

MattyFridays: doczoidberg: Great.

I have a ten year career in radio, and recently left it to try something new.

Well...I'm miserable in my new job, and this week began looking for new radio gigs, hoping for anything full-time in a small or mid sized market.

A thousand laid off Clear Channel people flooding the job pool is not what I need right now.

I am so stupid, stupid, STUPID for leaving my last gig. It was about as good as radio gets.

/Hate myself.

I left radio 6 years ago.

My problem? I've hated all the jobs I've worked in since then, but I can't complain about the paycheck. I loved working in radio, but I was working for little to no pay.

My friends who are my age who are still working in radio are either single or their wives are the breadwinners and out earn them 2 to 1 (at least).

I have a friend who is a consultant who still talks to me about possible jobs. And as much as I'd love to say yes, I've put down roots here, and I don't think I can get past it now.



I don't care about the money.

At this point, I'd gladly go back to making 8.50 an hour in a rural market and living in a drafty apartment, just to be in radio.

I feel like there's nothing I am capable of doing.

I may have a lead on a mid market job. They PD sent me a list of interview questions today.

Wish me luck. Maybe I'll get something back in the industry before I'm fired from the new office job I have.
 
2012-12-07 01:49:23 PM  

highendmighty: Rapmaster2000: I still listen to terrestrial radio, but they're all public, local stations like college radio, NPR, or one of the community stations. What future market is there for a rock block of Billy Squier broadcast to 5 million people, of which only 8 want to hear?

/ok, only 7 people want to hear a rock block of Billy Squier

Whadda you want? Everybody wants the stroke in the dark - especially my kind of lover!


These are all the Billy Squier songs I know.
 
2012-12-07 02:22:33 PM  
I guess that explains why Walton and Johnson weren't on 93.7 in Houston this morning. Those guys had monster ratings here.
 
2012-12-07 02:22:57 PM  

Magorn: enry: StrikitRich: So who got laid off? Talent? Staff? Sales Weasels?

Wait. CC has talent?

/thanks for ruining broadcast radio, jerkoffs
//Sirius FTW

FTL you mean, The same idiot that ruined terrestrial radio is the driving force behind Sirius and it shows. Years back my wife got me XM radio for christmas because I had a 3 hour total commute everyday, and I LOVED it. I love all kinds of music, and more than anything else, I love hearing something new, that I've l never heard before that's also good, and Xm intorduced me to tons of artists and songs I never knew existed.

I let the subscription lapse after I ended up working much closer to home and rarely was in the car for more than 15 min a day for commuting.

But recently, when I went to rent a car for 10-hr road trip I made sure it had a working Sirius radio in it, cause of my fond memories of the service.

Long story short, I was stunned at how badly it sucked now. Little Steven's Channel was okay but most of the other channels SUCKED, and a shocking number had commercials on them. After about 45 min I ended up using the car's sync feature to plug in my Ipod and listened to that instead.


Yeah, but when you compare it to Clear Channel...:)

/actually like it as a parent as my daughter loves Kids Place Live.
 
2012-12-07 02:24:19 PM  

doczoidberg: MattyFridays: doczoidberg:

I loved working in radio, but I was working for little to no pay.

My friends who are my age who are still working in radio are either single or their wives are the breadwinners and out earn them 2 to 1 (at least).

At this point, I'd gladly go back to making 8.50 an hour in a rural market and living in a drafty apartment, just to be in radio.


Bolded for emphasis on truth. I wasted 15 years of my life in radio and it never got better than $8 an hour, and that's in a market of 1.5 million listeners. Radio is a part-time, no benefits job. Loving your low-paying job and being a broke-ass "radio celebrity" is fine when you're in your 20s. You want job security of any sort, health insurance and a 401K? Maybe the chance to retire and/or buy a house? Get out of radio while you can. Go back and do a volunteer evening show or board-op overnights -- after you're retired from a real job.
 
2012-12-07 02:43:11 PM  
I'm a news reporter, so I tend to get paid a bit more than the jocks.

At my last smallish-market job, I made about 13.50 an hour.

I'd gladly take something like that again.

I was way happier living alone and being broke.
 
2012-12-07 02:45:58 PM  
They waited till after the election to do this.
 
2012-12-07 02:55:33 PM  

groppet:

I got laid off by CC 6 years ago. My job since then has sucked. But hey the money isnt too bad and th people are mostly ok. But I do miss not having a dress code or just checking out the new intern going by in her little booty shorts, free drinks at bars and tickets. Great now you got me depressed jerk.


img2-1.timeinc.net

I want you to feel my pain.
 
2012-12-07 02:55:36 PM  

enry: Magorn: enry: StrikitRich: So who got laid off? Talent? Staff? Sales Weasels?

Wait. CC has talent?

/thanks for ruining broadcast radio, jerkoffs
//Sirius FTW

FTL you mean, The same idiot that ruined terrestrial radio is the driving force behind Sirius and it shows. Years back my wife got me XM radio for christmas because I had a 3 hour total commute everyday, and I LOVED it. I love all kinds of music, and more than anything else, I love hearing something new, that I've l never heard before that's also good, and Xm intorduced me to tons of artists and songs I never knew existed.

I let the subscription lapse after I ended up working much closer to home and rarely was in the car for more than 15 min a day for commuting.

But recently, when I went to rent a car for 10-hr road trip I made sure it had a working Sirius radio in it, cause of my fond memories of the service.

Long story short, I was stunned at how badly it sucked now. Little Steven's Channel was okay but most of the other channels SUCKED, and a shocking number had commercials on them. After about 45 min I ended up using the car's sync feature to plug in my Ipod and listened to that instead.

Yeah, but when you compare it to Clear Channel...:)

/actually like it as a parent as my daughter loves Kids Place Live.


My Son was about 7-8 when I got XM and I LOVED XM Kids, especially in the mornings it was kid friendly radio that didn't make me want to claw my eyes out the way Radio Disney did. It was kinda like listening to the kiddy version of the Dr. Demento show, and it also It helped that they had a DJ doing some very funny comedy bits involving a cast of characters like a Polar Bear named "Bear E. White #1 Love God of the Arctic Circle or redneck procupines with the names Glen and Bernie (Very funny if you live near DC or Baltimore-and he even had the accent right)
 
2012-12-07 02:56:33 PM  

BalugaJoe: They waited till after the election to do this.


No, they didn't. Clear Channel (and other slimeball radio groups) have a habit of laying people off before the holidays. This has been a constant for at least the last decade.
 
2012-12-07 03:01:02 PM  

WordyGrrl: doczoidberg: MattyFridays: doczoidberg:

I loved working in radio, but I was working for little to no pay.

My friends who are my age who are still working in radio are either single or their wives are the breadwinners and out earn them 2 to 1 (at least).

At this point, I'd gladly go back to making 8.50 an hour in a rural market and living in a drafty apartment, just to be in radio.


Bolded for emphasis on truth. I wasted 15 years of my life in radio and it never got better than $8 an hour, and that's in a market of 1.5 million listeners. Radio is a part-time, no benefits job. Loving your low-paying job and being a broke-ass "radio celebrity" is fine when you're in your 20s. You want job security of any sort, health insurance and a 401K? Maybe the chance to retire and/or buy a house? Get out of radio while you can. Go back and do a volunteer evening show or board-op overnights -- after you're retired from a real job.


In fairness, I was full time promotions and a producer, but I also did a lot of other things around the station. I was making $12 an hour and offered benefits and a 401k, but how could I take advantage of the benes OR the 401K when I was only making $12/hour?
 
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