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2012-12-06 08:17:09 PM
Because Americans aren't yet stupid enough already.
 
2012-12-06 08:22:08 PM
If SyFy isn't going to do speculative fiction work, someone has to.

At least they are only giving this a one-word title, which means that it might be good (Psych, Monk.)

When USA does two word titles, they usually suck or are just meh (White Collar, Covert Affairs, Necessary Roughness, Fairly Legal etc.)

It's a theory I have.
 
2012-12-06 08:29:59 PM
Huh. Here I was expecting them to have taken the idea from Harry Turtledove, but it's different.
 
2012-12-06 08:37:03 PM

Rincewind53: Huh. Here I was expecting them to have taken the idea from Harry Turtledove, but it's different.


It's not like it's an original story, but that's probably the best known one for that category. Plus The Race would have to be pure CG, and that's expensive for a TV series.
 
2012-12-06 09:20:17 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: If SyFy isn't going to do speculative fiction work, someone has to.

At least they are only giving this a one-word title, which means that it might be good (Psych, Monk.)

When USA does two word titles, they usually suck or are just meh (White Collar, Covert Affairs, Necessary Roughness, Fairly Legal etc.)

It's a theory I have.


Umm... Burn Notice.
 
2012-12-06 09:25:50 PM

propasaurus: AdolfOliverPanties: If SyFy isn't going to do speculative fiction work, someone has to.

At least they are only giving this a one-word title, which means that it might be good (Psych, Monk.)

When USA does two word titles, they usually suck or are just meh (White Collar, Covert Affairs, Necessary Roughness, Fairly Legal etc.)

It's a theory I have.

Umm... Burn Notice.


Also Covert Affairs is awesome.
 
2012-12-06 09:39:20 PM
Hmm....I'll be in my bunk!
 
2012-12-06 10:34:43 PM

GAT_00: propasaurus: AdolfOliverPanties: If SyFy isn't going to do speculative fiction work, someone has to.

At least they are only giving this a one-word title, which means that it might be good (Psych, Monk.)

When USA does two word titles, they usually suck or are just meh (White Collar, Covert Affairs, Necessary Roughness, Fairly Legal etc.)

It's a theory I have.

Umm... Burn Notice.

Also Covert Affairs is awesome.


And the chick on Fairly Legal is like... smokin' hot.
 
2012-12-06 11:10:29 PM
Harry Turtledove's Worldwar is being turned into a TV series? AWESOME!

/clicks link.

Oh..... okay.
 
2012-12-06 11:10:53 PM
Covert Affairs and Burn Notice are meh.
 
2012-12-06 11:45:22 PM
cf.badassdigest.com

Ratings
 
2012-12-07 12:13:23 AM

GAT_00: Rincewind53: Huh. Here I was expecting them to have taken the idea from Harry Turtledove, but it's different.

It's not like it's an original story, but that's probably the best known one for that category. Plus The Race would have to be pure CG, and that's expensive for a TV series.


And let's be honest, who really wants to see a bunch of lizards in a ginger-induced orgy?
 
2012-12-07 12:57:29 AM

Mentat: GAT_00: Rincewind53: Huh. Here I was expecting them to have taken the idea from Harry Turtledove, but it's different.

It's not like it's an original story, but that's probably the best known one for that category. Plus The Race would have to be pure CG, and that's expensive for a TV series.

And let's be honest, who really wants to see a bunch of lizards in a ginger-induced orgy?


Hell, I just want to see one playing shortstop.
 
2012-12-07 05:36:23 AM
This meme sucks.
 
2012-12-07 05:45:47 AM
i578.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-07 06:02:29 AM

Shostie: GAT_00: propasaurus: AdolfOliverPanties: If SyFy isn't going to do speculative fiction work, someone has to.

At least they are only giving this a one-word title, which means that it might be good (Psych, Monk.)

When USA does two word titles, they usually suck or are just meh (White Collar, Covert Affairs, Necessary Roughness, Fairly Legal etc.)

It's a theory I have.

Umm... Burn Notice.

Also Covert Affairs is awesome.

And the chick on Fairly Legal is like... smokin' hot.


If you want to see the chick from Fairly Legal, just watch the season of the L Word that she was on. As cringe inducing as the L Word can be, it's still less cringe inducing than Fairly Legal. Plus, the L Word has Sarah Shahi sex scenes.

As far as two word USA network shows go, White Collar is pretty good when they stick with the bromance stuff and stop trying to shoehorn in love interests that can't act.
 
2012-12-07 06:08:11 AM
I'm betting that by the last episode they discover it was actually geese. 

www.nicap.org
 
2012-12-07 06:29:25 AM

rynthetyn: Shostie: GAT_00: propasaurus: AdolfOliverPanties: If SyFy isn't going to do speculative fiction work, someone has to.

At least they are only giving this a one-word title, which means that it might be good (Psych, Monk.)

When USA does two word titles, they usually suck or are just meh (White Collar, Covert Affairs, Necessary Roughness, Fairly Legal etc.)

It's a theory I have.

Umm... Burn Notice.

Also Covert Affairs is awesome.

And the chick on Fairly Legal is like... smokin' hot.

If you want to see the chick from Fairly Legal have girl-on-girl sexytime, just watch the season of the L Word that she was on. As cringe inducing as the L Word can be, it's still less cringe inducing than Fairly Legal. Plus, the L Word has Sarah Shahi sex scenes.

If you want to see her playing a great character in a great show, watch "Life."

As far as two word USA network shows go, White Collar is pretty good when they stick with the bromance stuff and stop trying to shoehorn in love interests that can't act.


"White Collar" is still good, if inconsistent and too often shoehorns the wife into cases (I'm all for Tiffani Theisen getting screen time, but come on). "Burn Notice" has gone tits up.
 
2012-12-07 06:46:44 AM
Yeah... let's call it WoodTorch or something...
 
2012-12-07 06:48:38 AM

100 Watt Walrus: rynthetyn: Shostie: GAT_00: propasaurus: AdolfOliverPanties: If SyFy isn't going to do speculative fiction work, someone has to.

At least they are only giving this a one-word title, which means that it might be good (Psych, Monk.)

When USA does two word titles, they usually suck or are just meh (White Collar, Covert Affairs, Necessary Roughness, Fairly Legal etc.)

It's a theory I have.

Umm... Burn Notice.

Also Covert Affairs is awesome.

And the chick on Fairly Legal is like... smokin' hot.

If you want to see the chick from Fairly Legal have girl-on-girl sexytime, just watch the season of the L Word that she was on. As cringe inducing as the L Word can be, it's still less cringe inducing than Fairly Legal. Plus, the L Word has Sarah Shahi sex scenes.

If you want to see her playing a great character in a great show, watch "Life."

As far as two word USA network shows go, White Collar is pretty good when they stick with the bromance stuff and stop trying to shoehorn in love interests that can't act.

"White Collar" is still good, if inconsistent and too often shoehorns the wife into cases (I'm all for Tiffani Theisen getting screen time, but come on). "Burn Notice" has gone tits up.


I'd rather have Tiffani Theisen than that insurance investigator love interest chick who has zero chemistry with Matt Bomer. Seriously, Matt Bomer could act opposite a brick wall and have chemistry with the wall, but that actress just sucks all the chemistry out of the room.
 
2012-12-07 06:49:49 AM
USA needs more NCIS marathons!
26 miles and 385 yards of repeats.
 
2012-12-07 06:49:50 AM

malle-herbert: Yeah... let's call it WoodTorch or something...


So I'm not the only one who thought that. We can have Captain Hack Jarkness investigate while we're at it.
 
2012-12-07 07:31:43 AM
www.lolwut.com
www.saltmanz.comwww.alice-dsl.net

/already been done; your book/story is invalid
 
2012-12-07 07:37:15 AM
Turtledove is a hack. He doesn't build worlds or 'what ifs?' All he does is just switch out the names and replace them with something else, and that's supposed to be alternative? Bullshiat. Changes have meaning beyond 'they're using dinosaurs instead of planes' or 'aryan peoples endured slavery instead of africans'.
 
2012-12-07 08:01:57 AM
mimg.ugo.com

/Simpsons Futurama did it
 
2012-12-07 08:03:30 AM
Damn I was hoping for Footfall
 
2012-12-07 08:28:13 AM

Rincewind53: Huh. Here I was expecting them to have taken the idea from Harry Turtledove, but it's different.


Yeah me too, that'd been rad. Instead they chose something that sounds boring, with neither WW2 nor alien action, just a housewife running around pestering people about her missing husband.
 
2012-12-07 08:29:53 AM

AdolfOliverPanties: Covert Affairs and Burn Notice are meh.


I enjoyed Burn Notice a lot the first few seasons, it's largely lost my interest though. Covet Affairs was OK the first season, but then I got totally bored with it.
 
2012-12-07 08:42:07 AM
www.covershut.com 

Yeah, it's about time they remake this movie. It's going on 30 years old.
 
2012-12-07 08:44:16 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Turtledove is a hack. He doesn't build worlds or 'what ifs?' All he does is just switch out the names and replace them with something else, and that's supposed to be alternative? Bullshiat. Changes have meaning beyond 'they're using dinosaurs instead of planes' or 'aryan peoples endured slavery instead of africans'.


He could make most of his novels 1/2 the size and they'd be great. By book 5 or 6 you just want it (or your life) to be over.
 
2012-12-07 08:44:30 AM

Mentat: GAT_00: Rincewind53: Huh. Here I was expecting them to have taken the idea from Harry Turtledove, but it's different.

It's not like it's an original story, but that's probably the best known one for that category. Plus The Race would have to be pure CG, and that's expensive for a TV series.

And let's be honest, who really wants to see a bunch of lizards in a ginger-induced orgy?


I don't know, but a bunch of gingers in a lizard-induced orgy might be interesting.
 
2012-12-07 08:50:13 AM
Eh, USA shows are tailored made to people like my parents: the shows are always bright, pastel, fluffy and never too dark or gritty. The shows may be entertaining, but they lack the impact and complexity of AMC, HBO and Showtime shows.
 
2012-12-07 09:04:20 AM

enry: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Turtledove is a hack. He doesn't build worlds or 'what ifs?' All he does is just switch out the names and replace them with something else, and that's supposed to be alternative? Bullshiat. Changes have meaning beyond 'they're using dinosaurs instead of planes' or 'aryan peoples endured slavery instead of africans'.

He could make most of his novels 1/2 the size and they'd be great. By book 5 or 6 you just want it (or your life) to be over.


I'm going to have to agree.

I'm an avid reader, and I couldn't make the slog through Turtledove's aliens in WWII series.
 
2012-12-07 09:17:12 AM

rynthetyn: As far as two word USA network shows go, White Collar is pretty good when they stick with the bromance stuff and stop trying to shoehorn in love interests that can't act.


If Neil Caffrey and Hot Girlfriend of the Week seem to lack chemistry it might be because Matt Bomer is gay and is just an ok actor.

/Marsha Thomason needs more scenes
 
2012-12-07 09:18:01 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Turtledove is a hack. He doesn't build worlds or 'what ifs?' All he does is just switch out the names and replace them with something else, and that's supposed to be alternative? Bullshiat. Changes have meaning beyond 'they're using dinosaurs instead of planes' or 'aryan peoples endured slavery instead of africans'.


6/10
 
2012-12-07 09:22:27 AM

BullBearMS: enry: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Turtledove is a hack. He doesn't build worlds or 'what ifs?' All he does is just switch out the names and replace them with something else, and that's supposed to be alternative? Bullshiat. Changes have meaning beyond 'they're using dinosaurs instead of planes' or 'aryan peoples endured slavery instead of africans'.

He could make most of his novels 1/2 the size and they'd be great. By book 5 or 6 you just want it (or your life) to be over.

I'm going to have to agree.

I'm an avid reader, and I couldn't make the slog through Turtledove's aliens in WWII series.


I own the last book and made it about 1/3 of the way though it. Twice. Then had to put it down.

The "South Wins Civil War/American Empire" series was almost to that point, but he did throw in a few things to keep it somewhat interesting. That ran what, a dozen books?
 
2012-12-07 09:29:16 AM

Tax Boy: rynthetyn: As far as two word USA network shows go, White Collar is pretty good when they stick with the bromance stuff and stop trying to shoehorn in love interests that can't act.

If Neil Caffrey and Hot Girlfriend of the Week seem to lack chemistry it might be because Matt Bomer is gay and is just an ok actor.

/Marsha Thomason needs more scenes


Nah, I don't think it has anything to do with Bomer being gay, he has chemistry with a lot of his female co-stars, but that stupid insurance investigator chick can't act her way out of a paper bag. He had loads of chemistry with the love interest he had in the episodes where he was hiding out on that tropical island.
 
2012-12-07 09:31:03 AM
prequel to 'The 4400'?
 
2012-12-07 09:40:31 AM

BullBearMS: enry: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Turtledove is a hack. He doesn't build worlds or 'what ifs?' All he does is just switch out the names and replace them with something else, and that's supposed to be alternative? Bullshiat. Changes have meaning beyond 'they're using dinosaurs instead of planes' or 'aryan peoples endured slavery instead of africans'.

He could make most of his novels 1/2 the size and they'd be great. By book 5 or 6 you just want it (or your life) to be over.

I'm going to have to agree.

I'm an avid reader, and I couldn't make the slog through Turtledove's aliens in WWII series.


Which one? He had two

and a Book to bookend the saga (which he was wanting to do to stimulate a third series but they aren't biting)
 
2012-12-07 09:41:18 AM
ts2.mm.bing.net

Though technically not World War II because it happens in the 1950s. Still has the feeling of WWII when you play it.
 
2012-12-07 09:42:03 AM

President Merkin Muffley: prequel to 'The 4400'?


4400 wasn't aliens: It was time travelers
 
2012-12-07 09:46:25 AM
I first thought was Dark Skies redux.
 
2012-12-07 09:46:31 AM

President Merkin Muffley: prequel to 'The 4400'?


Cool - maybe they'll kill off then Lazarus The Rocketeer
 
2012-12-07 09:56:57 AM

karasoth: BullBearMS: enry: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Turtledove is a hack. He doesn't build worlds or 'what ifs?' All he does is just switch out the names and replace them with something else, and that's supposed to be alternative? Bullshiat. Changes have meaning beyond 'they're using dinosaurs instead of planes' or 'aryan peoples endured slavery instead of africans'.

He could make most of his novels 1/2 the size and they'd be great. By book 5 or 6 you just want it (or your life) to be over.

I'm going to have to agree.

I'm an avid reader, and I couldn't make the slog through Turtledove's aliens in WWII series.

Which one? He had two

and a Book to bookend the saga (which he was wanting to do to stimulate a third series but they aren't biting)


I bought all four of the Worldwar series at once since I'm a big history buff and an avid reader of sci-fi. It seemed relevant to my interests. Couldn't make it through them.

I had previously enjoyed Eric Flint's alternate history novel, 1632, where a big circle of land containing a small town from America is suddenly plopped down right in the middle of Europe's 30 Year's War, and thought I'd give more alternate history a try.
 
2012-12-07 09:57:54 AM

enry: The "South Wins Civil War/American Empire" series was almost to that point, but he did throw in a few things to keep it somewhat interesting. That ran what, a dozen books?


About 400 pages (over the series) worth of explaining that the one naval officer liked being in the North Atlantic because he sunburned easily. WE GET IT. And yet I liked that series a lot.
 
2012-12-07 10:10:38 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Turtledove is a hack. He doesn't build worlds or 'what ifs?' All he does is just switch out the names and replace them with something else, and that's supposed to be alternative? Bullshiat. Changes have meaning beyond 'they're using dinosaurs instead of planes' or 'aryan peoples endured slavery instead of africans'.


I liked his earlier work like Guns of the South and What Few Remain. But once he started cranking the books out at an industrial pace, he resorted to lazy storytelling.
 
2012-12-07 10:45:41 AM

yves0010: [ts2.mm.bing.net image 256x300]

Though technically not World War II because it happens in the 1950s. Still has the feeling of WWII when you play it.


That was the movie I was hoping for.
 
2012-12-07 10:50:27 AM

maxpower007: yves0010: [ts2.mm.bing.net image 256x300]

Though technically not World War II because it happens in the 1950s. Still has the feeling of WWII when you play it.

That was the movie I was hoping for.


And it would make a damn good movie if ever made. And you do not need to focus on Nathan either. It could be about any soldier fighting during that war.
 
2012-12-07 11:06:14 AM

GAT_00: Rincewind53: Huh. Here I was expecting them to have taken the idea from Harry Turtledove, but it's different.

It's not like it's an original story, but that's probably the best known one for that category. Plus The Race would have to be pure CG, and that's expensive for a TV series.


Decent CGI seems to be pretty cheap these days. Falling Skies has all-CGI invaders on a TV budget. Also, if you need to do practical aliens, I bet you could probably get some Farscape alien designers to come up with something that looked reptilian and alien, but could still fit a person into, like they did with the Scarrans.
 
2012-12-07 11:20:55 AM

Mentat: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Turtledove is a hack. He doesn't build worlds or 'what ifs?' All he does is just switch out the names and replace them with something else, and that's supposed to be alternative? Bullshiat. Changes have meaning beyond 'they're using dinosaurs instead of planes' or 'aryan peoples endured slavery instead of africans'.

I liked his earlier work like Guns of the South and What Few Remain. But once he started cranking the books out at an industrial pace, he resorted to lazy storytelling.


This. You don't have to talk about the poor quality of northern cigarettes during war time every 3 pages, or any of the other "let me beat you over the head with this tiny fact" crap he simply repeated over and over again. He really is a very lazy storyteller once he gets to writing a series. It almost seems like he just gets bored with everything. The first book is great, the second pretty good, and then he just sort of recycles crap, hoping you keep reading to finish the series.
 
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