MadAzza: What difference does it make if the student is blind?
Lionel Mandrake: Shocking footage shows teacher dragging blind student, 6, down a hallway 'because he refused to go to class'Two female teachers in video now face child abuse chargesThat was not shocking. That was not child abuse.
tin_man: What is the best way to get him there?
skinink: He's blind! Tell him he can go to study hall instead, but eventually lead him to his class. You think Anne Frank was as difficult as this blind boy?
INeedAName: Lionel Mandrake: Shocking footage shows teacher dragging blind student, 6, down a hallway 'because he refused to go to class'Two female teachers in video now face child abuse chargesThat was not shocking. That was not child abuse.Protip from someone in education: if it's not your kid, don't put your hands on them.
Lionel Mandrake: That was not shocking. That was not child abuse.
Mixolydian Master: skinink: He's blind! Tell him he can go to study hall instead, but eventually lead him to his class. You think Anne Frank was as difficult as this blind boy?If Anne Frank didn't go to class she woulda never gotten her pilots license and gotten lost in the Bermuda Triangle. Be careful what you wish for.[oi45.tinypic.com image 402x402]
MadMattressMack: FTFA:"Dobyns added that the youngster's family did not want to press criminal charges against the teacher after the school told them about the incident.'The boy's parents like this teacher,' she said. 'This teacher has been working with their child for quite some time.'"It seems there's a lot more to this story than what's being served up to try to create an outrage by the Daily Fail.
Gyrfalcon: So, how else should they have gotten him to class? Asked him nicely? That doesn't seem to have worked. Let him go running out into the parking lot? Called the cops to arrest him, creating a whole different issue for people to get outraged about? What, o outraged ones, would have been preferable?All you ever hear in stories like this is "THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT!!!" but you never hear what ought to have been done instead, with a recalcitrant student who knows perfectly well that if he goes limp like a street protestor the teachers can't touch him and he'll get his way. He's blind, not stupid. Or else the police get called, and then his parents will show up and make a huge fuss and he'll get even more attention paid to him, the ultimate goal of any temper tantrum.The teachers did about what should have been done. It would probably have been better if a bigger teacher had picked the brat up and carried him to his classroom, plunked him down hard in his seat and said "Now, you're going to sit there and listen!" but maybe next time. Nobody is advocating beating him or locking him in a closet. But asking him to obey his teachers doesn't seem too much to me. And if he won't do it voluntarily, then he has to be made to do it. He's a kid. If he doesn't learn it now, then unfortunately, he'll be learning it in a few years in a correctional facility, where being blind will be a serious disadvantage.
BSABSVR: Well, you can't just let him careen off of shiat until he gets there, either.
BoxOfBees: I'm surprised about the overwhelming show of support for something that my parents would have done to me and would have been happy for someone else to do to me if I had been disrespectful and uncooperative.But they will get a nice little cash settlement anyway. And disciplinary actions against the teachers.*watches video**blinks**watches video again*That was less violent than a car ride or even playing some board games. Blatant neglect for his safety? SAFETY????*head asplodes*
Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Lionel Mandrake: That was not shocking. That was not child abuse.This is why I love teaching in Asia. Here, the parents would be yelling at the kid "Why did Teacher Sudo have to drag you to class?!"
ISO15693: That deaf dumb blind kid sure makes a scene in schoool halls.
doglover: Schools need the power to deal with or eject difficult students. Your kid won't cooperate but you didn't sign a waiver? Boom, out. Come get them now or we'll charge you a babysitting fee of 150% a teacher's hourly rate plus a per diem for facilities.Draging on the floor isn't out of line for dealing with a six year old who is being stubborn. If he was injured, that's one thing, but it's well within reason to physically move a very small child who will not go where you have a legal obligation to have them. If you don't like that, homeschool your snowflake. See where that gets you.Child abuse is whipping their back bloody with a hickory switch. Child abuse is putting out cigarettes on their forehead. Child abuse is basically anything that happened to school children in the 1800s. But simply dragging a kid who won't go to class? Unless the floor was a cheese grater, I don't see the issue.
SquiggsIN: 50 years ago this would've been called "tough love" or "discipline"This isn't even close to child abuse. Far worse things are gotten away with by terrible parents daily.
doglover: If he was injured, that's one thing, but it's well within reason to physically move a very small child who will not go where you have a legal obligation to have them.
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