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(Daily Mail)   New letters reveal that Charles Schultz liked to get his Peanut wet   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 69
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2012-12-06 01:08:23 PM  
Was she a little red-headed girl?
 
2012-12-06 01:30:53 PM  

Uptown Hipster Doofus: Was she a little red-headed girl?


Actually, yes. She was the inspiration for that character. Notice how Charlie Brown was always wanting to be with her, but couldn't?
 
2012-12-06 01:31:14 PM  
By all reports he was a misanthrope of the highest order.
 
2012-12-06 02:07:26 PM  
Weird tag just fell prey to Sappy tag's "kick the football" trick...
 
2012-12-06 02:17:41 PM  

Bob Falfa: Uptown Hipster Doofus: Was she a little red-headed girl?

Actually, yes. She was the inspiration for that character. Notice how Charlie Brown was always wanting to be with her, but couldn't?


Er... actually the little red-headed girl was introduced in the comic at least as early as 1965, which was years before all of this. Not that I'm a Peanuts scholar or anything, but I just last week read a book that collected all the strips from '65-'66.
 
2012-12-06 02:21:00 PM  
In another Peppermint Patty falls asleep in class and starts shouting, 'Tracey! Tracey, I love you! Tracey, do you hear me, I love you?'

Proof finally that Peppermint Patty was gay?
 
2012-12-06 02:21:51 PM  
Dear Kids:

When you grow up, you will learn your heroes were right bastards. The only way to avoid that is not have heroes.
 
2012-12-06 02:59:36 PM  

Osomatic: Bob Falfa: Uptown Hipster Doofus: Was she a little red-headed girl?

Actually, yes. She was the inspiration for that character. Notice how Charlie Brown was always wanting to be with her, but couldn't?

Er... actually the little red-headed girl was introduced in the comic at least as early as 1965, which was years before all of this. Not that I'm a Peanuts scholar or anything, but I just last week read a book that collected all the strips from '65-'66.


Perhaps he was unhappy in his marriage in 1965.
 
2012-12-06 03:00:16 PM  

Bob Falfa: Uptown Hipster Doofus: Was she a little red-headed girl?

Actually, yes. She was the inspiration for that character. Notice how Charlie Brown was always wanting to be with her, but couldn't?



The little red-headed girl was based on a girl named Donna Johnson who Schulz worked with and dated in the late 40s.
 

NuttierThanEver: By all reports he was a misanthrope of the highest order.



I've read a few things by and about him. Your post was the first time I've heard him described that way.
 
2012-12-06 03:01:49 PM  
They reveal nothing that wasn't already known in general for folks interested in his life.

dugitman: I've read a few things by and about him. Your post was the first time I've heard him described that way.


He wasn't the best person to his spouses, but "a misanthrope" isn't really accurate.
 
2012-12-06 03:11:38 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: He wasn't the best person to his spouses, but "a misanthrope" isn't really accurate.


Right. I believe this went down when he and his first wife were building the hockey arena. If memory serves correct, his wife was also having an affair with the building contractor for the project. Meh, they were humanly imperfect like we all are.
 
2012-12-06 03:12:57 PM  
In his 2007 book, 'Schulz and Peanuts: A Biography,' David Michaelis said Schulz was almost between two marriages when he embarked on the romance with Claudius.

Yeah, this isn't news.

Also, "Schulz and Peanuts" is probably the best biography I've read in the last 10 years. I recommend it to anyone, whether you're a Peanuts fan or not. He was a fascinating and complex man.
 
2012-12-06 04:07:14 PM  
Good Grief!
 
2012-12-06 04:09:09 PM  

dugitman: Meh, they were humanly imperfect like we all are.


Not all of us. Ah ah ah!

www.thenation.com
 
2012-12-06 04:10:24 PM  
Linus: I got five pieces of candy!
Lucy: I got a chocolate bar!
Tracey Claudius: I got a cock.
 
2012-12-06 04:14:36 PM  
Who cares?
 
2012-12-06 04:14:57 PM  

Earguy: In another Peppermint Patty falls asleep in class and starts shouting, 'Tracey! Tracey, I love you! Tracey, do you hear me, I love you?'

Proof finally that Peppermint Patty was gay?


Always thought it was weird that there was an original Patty, then later a Peppermint Patty.

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
original Patty
 
2012-12-06 04:18:04 PM  
Charles M Schultz was actually a composite of the directors of the Rand Corporation circa 1952. An artificially created personage, much like Chef-Boy-Ardee, Betty Crocker, and Barack Obama.
 
2012-12-06 04:23:41 PM  

carrion_luggage: Linus: I got five pieces of candy!
Lucy: I got a chocolate bar!
Tracey Claudius: I got a cock.


LOL!
 
2012-12-06 04:27:04 PM  

ChrisDe: Earguy: In another Peppermint Patty falls asleep in class and starts shouting, 'Tracey! Tracey, I love you! Tracey, do you hear me, I love you?'

Proof finally that Peppermint Patty was gay?

Always thought it was weird that there was an original Patty, then later a Peppermint Patty.

[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 134x175]
original Patty


What was the Original Patty's characteristics and why was she changed?
 
2012-12-06 04:27:15 PM  

WhippingBoy: Charles M Schultz was actually a composite of the directors of the Rand Corporation circa 1952. An artificially created personage, much like Chef-Boy-Ardee, Betty Crocker, and Barack Obama.


He's run by a big Eastern syndicate, you know.
 
2012-12-06 04:29:28 PM  

Gunny Highway: ChrisDe: Earguy: In another Peppermint Patty falls asleep in class and starts shouting, 'Tracey! Tracey, I love you! Tracey, do you hear me, I love you?'

Proof finally that Peppermint Patty was gay?

Always thought it was weird that there was an original Patty, then later a Peppermint Patty.

[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 134x175]
original Patty

What was the Original Patty's characteristics and why was she changed?


Well, the key characteristic was that she looked just like Charlie Brown in a dress.
weirdestboner.jpg
 
2012-12-06 04:32:52 PM  

exparrot: Gunny Highway: ChrisDe: Earguy: In another Peppermint Patty falls asleep in class and starts shouting, 'Tracey! Tracey, I love you! Tracey, do you hear me, I love you?'

Proof finally that Peppermint Patty was gay?

Always thought it was weird that there was an original Patty, then later a Peppermint Patty.

[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 134x175]
original Patty

What was the Original Patty's characteristics and why was she changed?

Well, the key characteristic was that she looked just like Charlie Brown in a dress.
weirdestboner.jpg


Girl grief!
 
2012-12-06 04:42:03 PM  
Did Schultz ever confirm that Peppermint Patty or Marcy were lesbians?
 
2012-12-06 04:42:32 PM  
The creator of the Peanuts comic strip and characters is named Schulz.

Not Schultz.
 
2012-12-06 04:44:29 PM  
It'd be weird if she called him "sir."

/ Or maybe hot, I dunno.
 
2012-12-06 04:45:33 PM  

Funbags: The creator of the Peanuts comic strip and characters is named Schulz.

Not Schultz.


lultz.
 
2012-12-06 04:46:17 PM  

sigdiamond2000: In his 2007 book, 'Schulz and Peanuts: A Biography,' David Michaelis said Schulz was almost between two marriages when he embarked on the romance with Claudius.

Yeah, this isn't news.

Also, "Schulz and Peanuts" is probably the best biography I've read in the last 10 years. I recommend it to anyone, whether you're a Peanuts fan or not. He was a fascinating and complex man.


It was really good. Wasn't in that book where the author talks about how the more Schulz's first marriage was falling apart, the biatchier that Lucy became in the comic strips?
 
2012-12-06 04:47:51 PM  

Funbags: The creator of the Peanuts comic strip and characters is named Schulz.

Not Schultz.


Thank you--drives me nuts.
 
2012-12-06 04:51:16 PM  

Funbags: The creator of the Peanuts comic strip and characters is named Schulz.

Not Schultz.


I know nothing!
 
2012-12-06 04:55:21 PM  
Charlie Brown was already ruined by a Charlie Brown Kwanzaa. (NSFW or mind or child's ears or sensitive folk) And sorry.
 
2012-12-06 05:01:14 PM  
Aaahhh isn't that just so creepy...
 
2012-12-06 05:02:30 PM  
By what I understand, Schulz's first wife was a nagging, belittling biatch of the highest order and was actually much of the inspiration for the Lucy character in the strip.

Schulz played around because he didn't have the stones to tell her to "go fly a kite"....

/obscure?
 
2012-12-06 05:21:58 PM  

WhippingBoy: Charles M Schultz was actually a composite of the directors of the Rand Corporation circa 1952. An artificially created personage, much like Chef-Boy-Ardee, Betty Crocker, and Barack Obama.


Trolling of the highest order, and in a Peanuts-themed thread, no less.

10 lashes for you good sir, and then go see that creepy kid who believes she is a psychiatrist near the boxes over there...
 
2012-12-06 05:31:16 PM  
He does acid? I'll try it next time. Maybe it will let me understand what the adults are saying.
 
2012-12-06 05:32:37 PM  
Heard about this last night on the commentary to Season 15 of The Simpsons.

Boy, are those commentaries up-to-date! They're starting to catch up to South Park on topicality, although admittedly the only reason why South Park episodes are so topical is that they are made live during the events they parody. ; )

But seriously, I imagine the cartoon community knew about this sort of thing long before it makes headlines, and they were probably gossiping about different affairs. It's possible new evidence of affairs have come to light since the commentary track was recorded.

By the way, the menus seem to be "misprinted"--the place you have to click can be as much as an inch or two (on my mid-sized screen) away from the symbol. It'll help keep your brain from ossifying when you are 65, or 85, or 105, whatever the new deadline with declining brain power is by the time you watch a Simpsons commentary.

By the way, Daniel Radcliffe is a big fan of Simpson commentaries. He responded to the question "Who watches commentaries?" from an earlier season when he met one of the Simpsons people.
 
2012-12-06 05:33:25 PM  
LIVE CARTOONS. Something you may live long enough to see just before the Robot Rebels kill you.
 
2012-12-06 07:37:43 PM  
"I don't want you to divorce your wife and marry me. It will ruin your reputation and career." - best mistress ever
 
2012-12-06 07:50:21 PM  

cgraves67: "I don't want you to divorce your wife and marry me. It will ruin your reputation and career." - best mistress ever


No no, don't take off the mask. I prefer you as a dangerous hookup to a committed husband. I don't have to listen to your crap about work and life when I don't want to, you have a wife for that.
 
2012-12-06 08:22:43 PM  
Did anyone else check out the link on that page about the multi-orgasmic woman who killed herself because she couldn't stop masturbating?

/fascinating affliction, that.
 
2012-12-06 09:12:19 PM  

dopekitty74: Did anyone else check out the link on that page about the multi-orgasmic woman who killed herself because she couldn't stop masturbating?

/fascinating affliction, that.


I had that when I was 13. But I survived.
 
2012-12-06 09:26:21 PM  

Earguy: In another Peppermint Patty falls asleep in class and starts shouting, 'Tracey! Tracey, I love you! Tracey, do you hear me, I love you?'

Proof finally that Peppermint Patty was gay?


Tracey was once a mans name. I know because my maternal grandfather was named Tracey, although he went by his middle name because it was falling out of favor as such as he grew up. My sister is named after him.
 
2012-12-06 09:53:28 PM  
I have absolutely 0 respect for philanderers. 0.
 
2012-12-06 10:14:07 PM  

WhippingBoy: Charles M Schultz was actually a composite of the directors of the Rand Corporation circa 1952. An artificially created personage, much like Chef-Boy-Ardee, Betty Crocker, and Barack Obama.


Funny, there's a Russian movie coming out soon with a similar premise: that all the oligarchs and even leaders like Boris Yeltsin were/are computer constructs and people are fooled into believing they've "met" them.
 
2012-12-06 10:25:38 PM  
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YOU WILL FORGET YOU READ THAT ARTICLE! YOU WILL FORGET YOU READ THAT ARTICLE!
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/dude is dead, leave him be
 
2012-12-06 10:44:39 PM  

Earguy: In another Peppermint Patty falls asleep in class and starts shouting, 'Tracey! Tracey, I love you! Tracey, do you hear me, I love you?'

Proof finally that Peppermint Patty was gay?


Patty was bi, Marcy was gay.

That animated cat gif isn't so much hypnotic as it is seizurific and vomity.
 
2012-12-06 10:57:43 PM  

FunkOut: seizurific and vomity.


Hey, that's the name of my Joy Division cover band!

/too much?
 
2012-12-06 11:09:11 PM  

Mr_Ectomy: FunkOut: seizurific and vomity.

Hey, that's the name of my Joy Division cover band!

/too much?


Neurology will tear us apart...again.
 
2012-12-06 11:14:54 PM  

NuttierThanEver: By all reports he was a misanthrope of the highest order.


You say that like its a bad thing?
 
2012-12-06 11:36:05 PM  

RminusQ: Dear Kids:

When you grow up, you will learn your heroes were right bastards. The only way to avoid that is not have heroes.


Unless your hero was Fred Rodgers.
 
2012-12-07 12:56:49 AM  
My wife and I just watched Charlie Brown Christmas tonight, fark are little kids some miserable sobs! I'm not sure how I ever noticed, but wow. It's a wonder Charlie Brown didn't just slit his wrists with the shards of a broken Christmas ornament.
 
2012-12-07 01:03:00 AM  
I bought Fred Rodgers spiked cock ring at an auction back in Sept. for $65
 
2012-12-07 01:04:07 AM  
/NTSB
 
2012-12-07 01:06:59 AM  
So... the Daily Fail knows that the piece they quoted from the Washington Post was satire, right?
 
2012-12-07 01:41:44 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: WhippingBoy: Charles M Schultz was actually a composite of the directors of the Rand Corporation circa 1952. An artificially created personage, much like Chef-Boy-Ardee, Betty Crocker, and Barack Obama.

Funny, there's a Russian movie coming out soon with a similar premise: that all the oligarchs and even leaders like Boris Yeltsin were/are computer constructs and people are fooled into believing they've "met" them.


Directed by Frank Capgras?
 
2012-12-07 01:51:49 AM  

ChrisDe: Funbags: The creator of the Peanuts comic strip and characters is named Schulz.

Not Schultz.

I know nothing!


Nuzzink.
 
2012-12-07 02:37:04 AM  
The Washington Post also found several clues of the extramarital affair in the comic strip.

...In another Peppermint Patty falls asleep in class and starts shouting, 'Tracey! Tracey, I love you! Tracey, do you hear me, I love you?'


Yeah, the Daily Fail has once again farked the proverbial beagle. They've mistaken a bottom-of-the-barrel satire column for fact.

I mean, the WaPo piece is painfully unfunny, but its lack of humor comes from truly horrible execution on the comedic premise, not because you'd mistake it for fact.
 
2012-12-07 02:43:31 AM  

FunkOut: Patty was bi, Marcy was gay.


Exactly. People forget that Peppermint Patty had an on-again, off-again thing for good ol' Charlie Brown. The great thing was that she clearly considered him to be a loser, and her flirtations with him were usually more like playful threats. It's pretty clear that if they ever hooked up she would have pegged him silly, laughed at how miserable it made him that he enjoyed it, and never called him again.

Now, I'm not saying there was nothing between her and Marcie. Of course there was. But Marcie had a little backbone to her, underneath all that ostentatious submission. I bet she gave as good as she got in the sack.

/don't judge me, those "kids" are all twice my age by now
 
2012-12-07 03:08:35 AM  

zappaisfrank: By what I understand, Schulz's first wife was a nagging, belittling biatch of the highest order and was actually much of the inspiration for the Lucy character in the strip.Schulz played around because he didn't have the stones to tell her to "go fly a kite"....


That may be the case, but given that he was a huge mama's boy as a teenager, and was hyper passive-aggressive as an adult, not to mention that he was very likely a virgin until that first marriage: which didn't happen until he was almost 30... he came into that partnership with issues as well. More interesting than the affairs to me, was that he started out very evangelical, and as got older, wealthier and worldlier essentially became an agnostic by the end of his life.
 
2012-12-07 03:09:00 AM  

Kaiser Chieftess: Funbags: The creator of the Peanuts comic strip and characters is named Schulz.

Not Schultz.

Thank you--drives me nuts.


So, the Schulz > Schultz thing drives you nuts? Try illuminating the ignorant masses who cannot fathom that "Doctor Seuss" does not rhyme with "Doctor Use", but rhymes with "Doctor Voice". I have yet to find a single parent who correctly pronounces his last name, and its rather sad.
 
2012-12-07 08:52:45 AM  
And this from the "family values" guy who hated Santa Claus.
 
2012-12-07 01:10:24 PM  

Funbags: So, the Schulz > Schultz thing drives you nuts? Try illuminating the ignorant masses who cannot fathom that "Doctor Seuss" does not rhyme with "Doctor Use", but rhymes with "Doctor Voice". I have yet to find a single parent who correctly pronounces his last name, and its rather sad.


I've never heard anyone pronounce it anyway other than the first. If what you say is true, the misconception is so deeply ingrained in multiple generations of people that trying to change it is a hopeless cause. You'd have better luck getting everyone to stop using 'Legos' as the plural even though officially the plural form is simply 'Lego'. Even if you could convince someone that you were right, they'd still keep using the incorrect pronunciation because they've been doing it their whole life and the proper way just feels odd. For the sake of your sanity, let it go, because that's one battle you simply can't win.
 
2012-12-07 04:14:36 PM  
I live in Shulz adopted home town.

He is revered here as a all around nice guy,

P Patty was based on a hippie Cali girl that worked in his office. the sandals are Birkenstocks.
Snoopy Ice arena for the win.
 
2012-12-07 04:32:46 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: WhippingBoy: Charles M Schultz was actually a composite of the directors of the Rand Corporation circa 1952. An artificially created personage, much like Chef-Boy-Ardee, Betty Crocker, and Barack Obama.

Funny, there's a Russian movie coming out soon with a similar premise: that all the oligarchs and even leaders like Boris Yeltsin were/are computer constructs and people are fooled into believing they've "met" them.


Captain Tuttle would like a word with them....
 
2012-12-08 12:45:21 AM  

Funbags: Kaiser Chieftess: Funbags: The creator of the Peanuts comic strip and characters is named Schulz.

Not Schultz.

Thank you--drives me nuts.

So, the Schulz > Schultz thing drives you nuts? Try illuminating the ignorant masses who cannot fathom that "Doctor Seuss" does not rhyme with "Doctor Use", but rhymes with "Doctor Voice". I have yet to find a single parent who correctly pronounces his last name, and its rather sad.


From Wiki:

Geisel's pen name is regularly pronounced /ˈsjuːs/ sewss, an anglicized pronunciation inconsistent with his German surname. He himself noted that it rhymed with "voice" (his own pronunciation being /ˈsɔɪs/ soyss) and Alexander Liang (his collaborator on the Dartmouth Jack-O-Lantern) wrote of him:

You're wrong as the deuce
And you shouldn't rejoice
If you're calling him Seuss.
He pronounces it Soice[43] (or Zoice[44])

Geisel switched to the anglicized pronunciation because it "evoked a figure advantageous for an author of children's books to be associated with-Mother Goose"[33] and because most people used this pronunciation.
For books that Geisel wrote and others illustrated, he used the pen name "Theo LeSieg" ("LeSieg" is "Geisel" spelled backward).


So even his collaborator eventually relented and accepted the commonly-accepted pronounciation of the man's pen name (Seuss was not his surname, but his middle name), so maybe it's time to get the stick out of your ass and deal with it.

/This is not remotely like when people insist on calling a digital video of a sex act a "sex tape".
 
2012-12-08 12:47:50 AM  
Correction-- Dr. Seuss HIMSELF began using the "sewss" pronunciation. Not his collaborator-- THE MAN HIMSELF.
 
2012-12-08 07:47:38 AM  

ZeroCorpse:
You're wrong as the deuce
And you shouldn't rejoice
If you're calling him Seuss.
He pronounces it Soice[43] (or Zoice[44]).


And now it will be "Soice" in my head because I'm just that crazy

Being crazy isn't enough.
(Theodor Seuss Geisel)
-Dr. Seuss
 
2012-12-08 10:19:33 AM  

NuttierThanEver: By all reports he was a misanthrope of the highest order.


What reports, Vishinsky? Name them.
 
2012-12-08 10:21:45 AM  

RminusQ: Dear Kids:

When you grow up, you will learn your heroes were right bastards. The only way to avoid that is not have heroes.


A shy man trapped in a marriage with a domineering harpy had longings for someone else? THE HORROR, THE HORROR
 
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