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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Disney goes ahead and throws money at a Tron threequel   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 98
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2012-12-06 02:11:42 PM
Chastise me all you want, but I liked Tron Legacy. The visuals were superb and the music was incredible.
 
2012-12-06 02:13:29 PM
Tron, by all rights, got a sequel that it did not deserve (but I'm glad it got made, Legacy was fantastic.)

I really think it should stop at 2, though.
 
2012-12-06 02:15:21 PM

Jaws75: buntz: I didn't like Quorra coming to the real word. I think who ever made the movie didn't pay close enough attention to the original. They're not REALLY people, writers. They're programs!
I liked that Clu THOUGHT he could become real. Hell, it could have ended with him trying to escape in the beam and then just derezzing when he realized he wasn't an actual physical thing (like they did on Star Trek with the holodeck in that one (hundred) episodes.

I enjoyed Tron Legacy and I thought that was an interesting twist on Clu as well. As for Quorra, she was an ISO, which I'm supposing is why should could leave the Grid. If so, that would also explain why Clu and the programs who followed him hated the ISOs--that they were much more like the users than the programs were, and that frightened them.


This, what he said in the movie (and I'm paraphrasing) when he discovered the ISOs was that "he had found a new form of life) or something.

,BTW, if you haven't seen the Tron Uprising series yet, you should. It's a great show. 

Also this.
 
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2012-12-06 02:24:03 PM

ShadowLAnCeR: Jaws75: buntz: I didn't like Quorra coming to the real word. I think who ever made the movie didn't pay close enough attention to the original. They're not REALLY people, writers. They're programs!
I liked that Clu THOUGHT he could become real. Hell, it could have ended with him trying to escape in the beam and then just derezzing when he realized he wasn't an actual physical thing (like they did on Star Trek with the holodeck in that one (hundred) episodes.

I enjoyed Tron Legacy and I thought that was an interesting twist on Clu as well. As for Quorra, she was an ISO, which I'm supposing is why should could leave the Grid. If so, that would also explain why Clu and the programs who followed him hated the ISOs--that they were much more like the users than the programs were, and that frightened them.

This, what he said in the movie (and I'm paraphrasing) when he discovered the ISOs was that "he had found a new form of life) or something.

,BTW, if you haven't seen the Tron Uprising series yet, you should. It's a great show. 

Also this.


Too bad Disney already moved the show to midnight, Monday mornings/Sunday nights, pretty obvious time-slot for shows awaiting execution.
 
2012-12-06 02:37:31 PM

Mad_Radhu: I was a little underwhelmed by Tron Legacy the first time that I watched it, because the story seemed pretty bog-standard, but upon rewatching it seems like they were going for a religious allegory where you had the computer version of God and Jesus facing off against a fallen angel that was the dark reflection of that word's god. I'm not sure how successful they were with that, but it does make it slightly deeper than your typical action movie, so I do applaud them for that. The biggest issue was that they didn't have the courage to really do anything thought provoking with those religious themes, and it would have been a much stronger movie is they had the balls to be a little controversial.


When you search for meaning in anything long enough you will find it, even if you have to make it up.
 
2012-12-06 02:38:44 PM

Valacirca: They didn't forget that, they simply differentiated from the programs and Quorra's people who just kind of spontaneously sprung into existence.


Yes, but they were still programs. Not physical things. Their code could unlock the cure for disease and etc etc like he said in the movie, but they still weren't a physical thing that could exist outside of the grid.
At least thats the way I saw it.

It wasn't a deal breaker for me, I still really enjoyed the movie, that just bothered me. They tried to shoehorn in a love story where one didn't need to be. Sam still could have left but Quorra should have stayed.
 
2012-12-06 02:39:01 PM

buntz: I didn't like Quorra coming to the real word. I think who ever made the movie didn't pay close enough attention to the original. They're not REALLY people, writers. They're programs!
I liked that Clu THOUGHT he could become real. Hell, it could have ended with him trying to escape in the beam and then just derezzing when he realized he wasn't an actual physical thing (like they did on Star Trek with the holodeck in that one (hundred) episodes.


I agree. I would've gone with a melodramatic ending in which the computer ejects a floppy disk, with the implication that that's how she came out of the system.
 
2012-12-06 02:49:12 PM

buntz: It wasn't a deal breaker for me, I still really enjoyed the movie, that just bothered me. They tried to shoehorn in a love story where one didn't need to be. Sam still could have left but Quorra should have stayed.


Their body is physically put into the system and transferred. They are then converted out. This happened in the first one t0o. Why can it only be one way?

Also, I'm fine with the romance side. She likes him because he's the sexy version of his father (her idol), and she is ...hot and plucky
 
2012-12-06 02:51:06 PM
Yes, it was a two hour Daft Punk video, but damn it was fun to watch.
 
2012-12-06 02:52:23 PM
Count me in with the "I'm ok with this" crowd. When I first saw it in the theatre I didn't care for it, but after watching it a few times on blu ray it's grown on me quite a bit. Probably because I had time to catch things I'd missed, or at least hand-wave them (like Clu's Uncanny Valley cgi, makes sense if you think about him as a program who wants to be real like his creator, works well with Bridge's acting for him).
 
2012-12-06 03:02:13 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Mugato: So is The Dude in this one? I realize both versions of him were sort of killed but you know, come on.

Just turn it off and turn it back on, I'm sure he'll reboot. He's part of the OS.


PainInTheASP: Mother of God....THIS.

And maybe a generous portion of Serinda Swan?
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Got the first 30-45 minutes worked out for them. Olivia Wilde goes back and Serinda Swan has to put her in the suit. After a proper cleaning that is. Needs a good scrubbing. Never know where dirt could be hiding.....scrubbing.....


That's Beau Garret. Serinda Swan is the brunette Siren with no lines.

Link

And I third (or fourth or whatever) the Tron: Uprising love. Damn good show, though I'm a little behind. I don't get Disney XD in my cable lineup, so I have to buy them off iTunes. I just found out that it's back from hiatus, so I'm trying to catch up.
 
2012-12-06 03:04:57 PM
You'd think I would have learned to hit preview first by now...

Serinda Swan in Tron: Legacy: 

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2012-12-06 03:13:15 PM

Myria: I agree. I would've gone with a melodramatic ending in which the computer ejects a floppy disk, with the implication that that's how she came out of the system.


If you are going that route, then it should have been where Sam and Quorra were just about to get out, there's a flash of light, then they flip back to the real world and there's a BSOD. Roll credits.
 
2012-12-06 03:21:54 PM
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2012-12-06 03:23:22 PM

buntz: I really enjoyed Legacy. Like someone else said up there, I wasn't expecting Shakespeare!

I didn't like that the light cycles were on a "GRID" (which is why I assumed in the first one it was called that).

I didn't like Quorra coming to the real word. I think who ever made the movie didn't pay close enough attention to the original. They're not REALLY people, writers. They're programs!
I liked that Clu THOUGHT he could become real. Hell, it could have ended with him trying to escape in the beam and then just derezzing when he realized he wasn't an actual physical thing (like they did on Star Trek with the holodeck in that one (hundred) episodes.


Well, if flesh and blood can become digital info, it's not impossible for the reverse to occur, at least in the confines of the story.
 
2012-12-06 03:30:26 PM
Tron was great when I was a kid, and Legacy was 10x better. I got to take my own kids to our first 3D movie, and since the storyline and visuals blended perfectly with the 3D concept, it was amazing. We had a ton of fun, bought the Blu-ray, and really enjoyed everything about it.

Beautiful graphics and set design
Good story
Beautiful women in tight clothes
Action and things that went BOOM!
The most perfect soundtrack possible (good techy music in a movie about tech)
Quirky Castor/Michael Sheen hamming it up made me laugh


Tron 3 will get all of my big screen money.
 
2012-12-06 03:37:39 PM

AiryAnne: Isn't that Beau Garret? I thought Serinda Swan had black hair in the movie.


MY BAD!

This is how I apologize:

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2012-12-06 03:40:58 PM
woot! I get to break this out again!

And yes I did make it, and yes I did download the Tron font just for this....

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2012-12-06 03:46:34 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: AiryAnne: Isn't that Beau Garret? I thought Serinda Swan had black hair in the movie.

MY BAD!

This is how I apologize:

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She's actually the one that made me sit up and take notice of Zatanna:

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2012-12-06 03:48:58 PM

FuryOfFirestorm: Well, if flesh and blood can become digital info, it's not impossible for the reverse to occur, at least in the confines of the story.


Yeah, I know. I just have a problem with that. Like, I can accept the premise of them going in, but I have a hard time of accepting the premise of them coming out, you know?

Sort of like I can accept the premise of James Bond, but I can't accept the premise of James Bond in space.
 
2012-12-06 04:02:25 PM

buntz: FuryOfFirestorm: Well, if flesh and blood can become digital info, it's not impossible for the reverse to occur, at least in the confines of the story.

Yeah, I know. I just have a problem with that. Like, I can accept the premise of them going in, but I have a hard time of accepting the premise of them coming out, you know?


I agree to a certain extent. At least when somebody goes in, the computer has information about their internal organs, etc. A program coming out wouldn't have that kind of data available...unless the system interpolated based on previous human scans.

But, based on the movies, the only two people who have been scanned in are MALES. I think young Mr. Flynn may end up playing the Crying Game.
 
2012-12-06 04:18:49 PM
I could go for a third Tron film.

But more importantly, when are we going to get a remake/update of 'The Black Hole'?
 
2012-12-06 04:56:39 PM
I liked Legacy. I could go for a third

RoyFokker'sGhost: I could go for a third Tron film.

But more importantly, when are we going to get a remake/update of 'The Black Hole'?


There's a couple of "Black Hole"s in development, but I don't know if their related to the original.
 
2012-12-06 05:25:18 PM

Mega Steve: I liked Legacy. I could go for a third

RoyFokker'sGhost: I could go for a third Tron film.

But more importantly, when are we going to get a remake/update of 'The Black Hole'?

There's a couple of "Black Hole"s in development, but I don't know if their related to the original.


Starring Lindsay Lohan?
 
2012-12-06 06:16:52 PM

Jizz Master Zero: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DufDlV8H54Y/T-SmO-KR2LI/AAAAAAAAL90/IqBAOnU 1 PR4/s1600/Serinda+Swan+Smallville+Zatanna+(2).jpg

Namow, sehtolc nmad ruoy ffo ekat won!

FTFY.

But, messing with magical formulae can have unpredictiable side effects (PNSFW).

 
2012-12-06 06:47:48 PM

PsyLord: Mega Steve: I liked Legacy. I could go for a third

RoyFokker'sGhost: I could go for a third Tron film.

But more importantly, when are we going to get a remake/update of 'The Black Hole'?

There's a couple of "Black Hole"s in development, but I don't know if their related to the original.

Starring Lindsay Lohan?


Amanda Bynes....has more experience i hear
 
2012-12-06 07:02:03 PM
I'm all for this. I enjoyed the sequel, it wasn't as good as TRON, but I don't regret seeing it at all. But for the next movie we need a few things:

First, Daft Punk MUST do the soundtrack again. It was awesome the last time.
Second, WE NEED TRON. Not as Rinzler, not in flashbacks, we need TRON himself back on the side of the Users for the whole movie.
Third, they better go somewhere with Dillinger Jr and the MCP

And look, I didn't even make a joke about mounting an ICO.
 
2012-12-06 07:35:11 PM

akula: Mugato: Some Disney suit is a big Tron fanboy. They re-painted the monorails at Disney World when the last movie came out and the Test Track ride at EPCOT is being re-vamped to either directly tie in with Tron or have a Tron-like feel, I'm not sure which yet

Test Track has nothing to do with Tron. Not a direct tie in, not even an indirect one. Officially, the explanation is that the new ride is a simulation of what comes from vehicle design choices; the ride is supposed to make you feel as though you're in a computer. However, what people (including those designers of the redone ride) think of about being inside a computer was heavily influenced by Tron, and the end result is you feel like somebody is going to throw discs at the car.

So yeah, it has nothing to do with Tron, but just try to not think of Tron when you're on it. People are going to be saying "I like that Tron ride," and you won't be able to convince them that it's unrelated.


Yeah, that's why I said I heard various versions of whether it was based on Tron or not. Jeez, make up your mind. I'm already drunk from the various countries at EPCOT, I have to type in shiat in a ride, too?
 
2012-12-06 08:14:38 PM

Mugato: Yeah, that's why I said I heard various versions of whether it was based on Tron or not. Jeez, make up your mind. I'm already drunk from the various countries at EPCOT, I have to type in shiat in a ride, too?


The official imagineer line is it's nothing to do with Tron. Look at the 1:21 mark... they don't acknowledge Tron as a tie in. Problem is, I think it still heavily influenced them.

It officially opened today, but from the things I've read, it's not quite yet ready for prime time. I'll be there in January, so hopefully they'll have it working right by then.
 
2012-12-06 10:01:03 PM

Mad_Radhu: KhamanV: A cameo by the dude would be nice, but I'm in for some CGI Bruce Boxleitner action. Spouse and I love the hell out of that guy, he'll take any job and do it with a grin.

I love that he made an appearance in Chuck, which had previously prominently featured a Tron movie poster. Plus, he was Captain/President John Farkin' Sheridan.


"Why are you letting Sam Kinison and an Indian lesbian ruin your wedding? "

Possibly the best single line of dialogue I've ever heard.
 
2012-12-06 10:14:30 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Jizz Master Zero: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DufDlV8H54Y/T-SmO-KR2LI/AAAAAAAAL90/IqBAOnU 1 PR4/s1600/Serinda+Swan+Smallville+Zatanna+(2).jpg

Namow, sehtolc nmad ruoy ffo ekat won!

FTFY.

But, messing with magical formulae can have unpredictiable side effects (PNSFW).


Okay, so my backwards magic needs work sometimes. I think it all still worked out for everyone.
 
2012-12-06 10:36:41 PM

RoyFokker'sGhost: I could go for a third Tron film.

But more importantly, when are we going to get a remake/update of 'The Black Hole'?


Kosinski was supposedly being tapped to take a crack at a remake of "The Black Hole" next. Guess that's on hold though. That was another movie that had really interesting ideas for its time but then it kept mixing in the cute robots and the shoot-em-up stuff to make it more of a space adventure movie. I'd love to see it done right.
 
2012-12-06 11:01:42 PM
considering the original grid was running on late 80's hardware, i'd like to see what happens when it's booted up on a modern mainframe.
 
2012-12-06 11:29:36 PM

loonatic112358: considering the original grid was running on late 80's hardware, i'd like to see what happens when it's booted up on a modern mainframe.


Would the ISOs be considered viruses?
 
2012-12-07 12:32:48 AM

taliesinwi: RoyFokker'sGhost: I could go for a third Tron film.

But more importantly, when are we going to get a remake/update of 'The Black Hole'?

Kosinski was supposedly being tapped to take a crack at a remake of "The Black Hole" next. Guess that's on hold though. That was another movie that had really interesting ideas for its time but then it kept mixing in the cute robots and the shoot-em-up stuff to make it more of a space adventure movie. I'd love to see it done right.


Hey now, V.I.N.C.E.N.T. was pretty bad-azz. Hacked computer systems and could outshoot the best security drone on the Cygnus. I love R2 as much as the next geek that grew up in the 70's &80's, but R2 was Chuck Norris to V.I.N.C.E.N.T.'s Bruce Lee.
 
2012-12-07 12:56:55 AM
To me, Legacy was pretty obviously a setup for a TV series. Flynn and CORA on the run from bad guys that want to use their tech to rule the world... or they already rule the world, CORA uncovers it, and Flynn and CORA wage asymmetric underground warfare on the bad guys in our world. He's wearing a copy of the GRID environment around his neck, and they want it.
 
2012-12-07 10:07:03 AM

I lurked for two years before I signed up!: Possibly the best single line of dialogue I've ever heard.


CLOSE

While Chuck was trying to reformat his brain:

Chucks: These Indiana Jones movies are great. Are these like the Star Wars movies?! Are there more than three movies??!?

Whole Group: NO
 
2012-12-07 10:32:41 AM
The cartoon series is extremely satisfying.

Great voice actors, too.

wakingideas.com
 
2012-12-07 10:56:15 AM
I'd like to know who they'll get to do the soundtrack. I'm not a Daft Punk fan the Tron Legacy soundtrack is still one of my most favorite albums.
 
2012-12-07 11:51:38 AM
Good. I liked Tron: Legacy. It wasn't a great movie but I was quite happy with it. Also, Tron: Uprising has been surprisingly awesome in much the same way that Star Wars: The Clone Wars has become surprisingly awesome. Because of these two factors, as well as the curious ending of Legacy (ISO getting into the real world), I am quite happy to hear that this is going forward.

I'm not expecting something awe-inspiring, but I do expect that it will be an entertaining movie with a kick ass sound track, a passable story, some memorable acting performances (Micheal Sheen ftw in Legacy. Sorry, but that amount of crazy overacting was just awesome and is totally required for movies like this.) and dazzling visuals.
 
2012-12-07 12:56:22 PM

KhamanV: A cameo by the dude would be nice, but I'm in for some CGI Bruce Boxleitner action. Spouse and I love the hell out of that guy, he'll take any job and do it with a grin.

I grew up with the first film and I really enjoyed the second. Like the other guy above, I didn't look for Lear. I looked for eye candy, homage, and Daft Punk, and it sold on all of those for me.


Well, they won't have to make Flynn look young anymore, so .. there's that for the budget concern. heh

Seeing it in IMAX 3D was pretty damn impressive, I gotta admit to that. The club scene was farking mindblowing in IMAX 3D.
 
2012-12-07 04:24:03 PM

Sybarite: I saw Legacy mainly out of nostalgia, but I think I'm done. It was a pretty package with not much inside.


This and then some. On closer examination it was actually a pretty damn depressing movie in the end. Once CLU has been taken care of, the cyber world would have been a pretty nice place to live. Instead Sam brings cyber Olivia Wilde into the real world. Hey, enjoy getting sick, getting older, dying. crime, war, poverty, and all the other things the real world has to offer. As I said to a friend at the time, "Never thought I'd see a DIsney movie that ended with God tearing the wings off an angel and throwing her out of heaven."
 
2012-12-07 04:37:46 PM

extroverted_suicide: Sybarite: I saw Legacy mainly out of nostalgia, but I think I'm done. It was a pretty package with not much inside.

This and then some. On closer examination it was actually a pretty damn depressing movie in the end. Once CLU has been taken care of, the cyber world would have been a pretty nice place to live. Instead Sam brings cyber Olivia Wilde into the real world. Hey, enjoy getting sick, getting older, dying. crime, war, poverty, and all the other things the real world has to offer. As I said to a friend at the time, "Never thought I'd see a DIsney movie that ended with God tearing the wings off an angel and throwing her out of heaven."




You make no sense. Without CLU you still had people who would follow in Castor's footsteps trying to get the upper hand and be the leader. The city ran like any other city. I guess they wouldn't get older, but they still had dying, crime, war, and possibly poverty.
 
2012-12-07 04:45:28 PM
Count me in for the enjoyed the movie crowd as well. Great visuals, and decent action. Story was kinda shaky, but not too horrible. I'm not normally one for techno, but the music in the movie set the mood for their respective scenes perfectly.

Like a few others above I'd like to see MCP and Dillinger's kid show up for the next, as well as more Quorra (dear god she looked great in that outfit!).

Maybe something along the lines of Dillinger finding out about Flynn's little cyber world and stealing Sam's necklace with the cyber world on it and reverse engineering what he can and selling it to the government and now it's plugged in and interfaced on a worldwide scale with a revised MCP and Sam and Quorra have to go in to destroy it since unplugging it will no longer work after being networked globally.
 
2012-12-07 07:40:33 PM

fickenchucker: extroverted_suicide: Sybarite: I saw Legacy mainly out of nostalgia, but I think I'm done. It was a pretty package with not much inside.

This and then some. On closer examination it was actually a pretty damn depressing movie in the end. Once CLU has been taken care of, the cyber world would have been a pretty nice place to live. Instead Sam brings cyber Olivia Wilde into the real world. Hey, enjoy getting sick, getting older, dying. crime, war, poverty, and all the other things the real world has to offer. As I said to a friend at the time, "Never thought I'd see a DIsney movie that ended with God tearing the wings off an angel and throwing her out of heaven."



You make no sense. Without CLU you still had people who would follow in Castor's footsteps trying to get the upper hand and be the leader. The city ran like any other city. I guess they wouldn't get older, but they still had dying, crime, war, and possibly poverty.


Just a thought - if the world of Tron is basically a computer program, just exit to the real world, write out or delete code to eliminate the bad parts, and voila. Cyber Paradise!
 
2012-12-07 09:14:55 PM

FuryOfFirestorm: Just a thought - if the world of Tron is basically a computer program, just exit to the real world, write out or delete code to eliminate the bad parts, and voila. Cyber Paradise!



That's kind of the whole dang point of the movie, goofball. It's impossible.

The ISOs spontaneously grew from "nowhere", most likely amalgams of loose or redundant code bits. Programs like Castor were conniving double-crossers. The attempt at paradise resulted in Darwinism and political excess--just like real life.
 
2012-12-08 08:53:18 AM
Shut up and take my money!

Got that out, now for specifics. Warner HAS to come back when Cillian introduces the latest version of the MCP at ENCOM. Assuming that Rinzler was Tron during Legacy and not Beck, Bradley NEEDS to be transported to the grid so that Tron can meet him. Speaking of Beck, he and Paige should make an appearance.
 
2012-12-09 10:22:02 AM
Legacy was great, it had a decent story and the pacing was good. The only thing that I think hampered it was the cost to make the thing. It looks great but costly films need to bring in the crowds to cover the cost. I think that with disney's purchase of ILM, that should help to bring down the cost of the next movie.
 
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