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(Star Trek)   The first trailer for Star Trek Into Darkness is here. Plenty of awesome for you to love and lens flare for you to hate   (startrek.com) divider line 359
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2012-12-06 09:46:23 AM

Boudyro: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Carth: We're talking about a civilization that has mastered faster than light travel and teleportation. I would hope they could engineer a spaceship that could also go underwater.

Sounds like a typical government project

Gentlemen here is our prototype design of the new Constitution Class Starship. Will hold a crew of approximately 700. With two of the new LN-64B Mod 1 warp engines it will be able to sustain Warp 9 with an upper limit of Warp 13. The sensor bays will be able...

Is it waterproof?

Ugghh, excuse me sir?

You know, can it go under water?

Well sir we don't envision a scenario where the cruiser would have to be submerged so we...

I want it waterproof.

Roger that sir, we will get the engineers working on that.

Not to let my nerd flag fly but you can't go faster than Warp 10 or you turn into a salamander and have to bang the captain.


Didn't they go faster than warp 10 in the final episode of TNG when Picard went to the future?
 
2012-12-06 09:47:21 AM

Lydia_C: I am VERY psyched to see this... and would be happy to have the bad guy be Gary Mitchell.

Agreed that the trailer isn't terribly Star Trek though. In fact, the music reminds me of the trailer for Prometheus.


.....which has the original grandaddy of blaring trumpets to thank, Inception. Any try hard too deep for you action movie that wants to be epic does that blaring sound now.
 
2012-12-06 09:48:29 AM

Jaws_Victim: FeedTheCollapse: Lexx: Even With A Chainsaw: FeedTheCollapse: it looks nice... but I really didn't get a Star Trek vibe from it at all. Maybe that's the point or maybe another preview will give me a different impression...

That's cuz it's not Star Trek. It's Generic Space Movie II.

Hush. Star Trek was more entertaining than ANY of the franchise I've seen in the last 10 years.

//except Jeri Ryan's catsuit.

I assumed Even With A Chainsaw is referring to the most recent trailer. Star Trek '09 was definitely a Trek movie, but the new teaser looks more like a completely unrelated Sci-Fi/Action movie; not a bad one mind you, but one that's completely different. Maybe that's the point and that they're trying to differentiate this series from being more than just a reboot of TOS, but more likely I think a full trailer will probably indicate otherwise.

You have to admit 09 star trek had very obvious issues. The coincidental meeting with spock and that pointless momster chase for starters.


It's STAR TREK, for chrissakes. My biggest issues were with the *terrible* abuse of black hole physics, but that's neither here nor there. Yeah, I'll admit they should've added maybe 3-5 minutes worth of material explaining A: wtf Nero had been up to for the what, 20+ years that he was kicking around in the past?
 
2012-12-06 09:50:20 AM
Aside from Ensign Blondie, I didn't really see anything interesting in that trailer.
 
2012-12-06 09:51:09 AM

RexTalionis: [www.giantfreakinrobot.com image 578x246]
This photo is begging for a photoshop contest.


Open wide, Kirk's coming!
 
2012-12-06 09:51:15 AM

Alphax: Also, is the Enterprise now watertight, like the Phoenix in Battle of the Planets?


One might assume so since the vacuum of space would suck all the air out of it if it wasn't.
 
2012-12-06 09:51:22 AM

Lexx: Jaws_Victim: FeedTheCollapse: Lexx: Even With A Chainsaw: FeedTheCollapse: it looks nice... but I really didn't get a Star Trek vibe from it at all. Maybe that's the point or maybe another preview will give me a different impression...

That's cuz it's not Star Trek. It's Generic Space Movie II.

Hush. Star Trek was more entertaining than ANY of the franchise I've seen in the last 10 years.

//except Jeri Ryan's catsuit.

I assumed Even With A Chainsaw is referring to the most recent trailer. Star Trek '09 was definitely a Trek movie, but the new teaser looks more like a completely unrelated Sci-Fi/Action movie; not a bad one mind you, but one that's completely different. Maybe that's the point and that they're trying to differentiate this series from being more than just a reboot of TOS, but more likely I think a full trailer will probably indicate otherwise.

You have to admit 09 star trek had very obvious issues. The coincidental meeting with spock and that pointless momster chase for starters.

It's STAR TREK, for chrissakes. My biggest issues were with the *terrible* abuse of black hole physics, but that's neither here nor there. Yeah, I'll admit they should've added maybe 3-5 minutes worth of material explaining A: wtf Nero had been up to for the what, 20+ years that he was kicking around in the past?


He was farking orion slave girls, obviously. But yeah, i did enjoy it. I want to see some tng characters eventually too.
 
2012-12-06 09:51:28 AM
Another snarling Space Villain motivated by revenge. This schtick is getting old.

Anyone remember when Trek used to be about exploration and not motherfarking combat all the time?
 
2012-12-06 09:52:22 AM

Samwise Gamgee: Another snarling Space Villain motivated by revenge. This schtick is getting old.

Anyone remember when Trek used to be about exploration and not motherfarking combat all the time?


Yea, those movies did horrible.
 
2012-12-06 09:52:34 AM

PsyLord: They were taking on water before Kirk pulled the manual release switch to open the holding tank and release the whales.


That's right.
 
2012-12-06 09:54:35 AM

Boudyro: Not to let my nerd flag fly but you can't go faster than Warp 10 or you turn into a salamander and have to bang the captain


Nerd Power Up!!!!

In the original series they could travel faster than warp 9 with 13 being the max of the original NC-1701-A. In the next generation they re-indexed warp speed making 10 the fastest.
 
2012-12-06 09:55:02 AM

Carth: Samwise Gamgee: Another snarling Space Villain motivated by revenge. This schtick is getting old.

Anyone remember when Trek used to be about exploration and not motherfarking combat all the time?

Yea, those movies did horrible.


This. Thinking mans trek is for the tv series. Movies are for blowing shiat up. See: plinkards summary of differences between tv jean luc picard and movies picard.
 
2012-12-06 09:55:29 AM

Carth: Boudyro: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Carth: We're talking about a civilization that has mastered faster than light travel and teleportation. I would hope they could engineer a spaceship that could also go underwater.

Sounds like a typical government project

Gentlemen here is our prototype design of the new Constitution Class Starship. Will hold a crew of approximately 700. With two of the new LN-64B Mod 1 warp engines it will be able to sustain Warp 9 with an upper limit of Warp 13. The sensor bays will be able...

Is it waterproof?

Ugghh, excuse me sir?

You know, can it go under water?

Well sir we don't envision a scenario where the cruiser would have to be submerged so we...

I want it waterproof.

Roger that sir, we will get the engineers working on that.

Not to let my nerd flag fly but you can't go faster than Warp 10 or you turn into a salamander and have to bang the captain.

Didn't they go faster than warp 10 in the final episode of TNG when Picard went to the future?


They went something like warp 100000 in the 4th or 5th episode of the 1st season of TNG with Wesley and his weird alien buddy moved the ship with Happy Thoughts.
 
2012-12-06 09:55:59 AM
If the trend of recycling TOS storylines for the new movies continue, I predict that Star Trek XIII will feature the Yangs and the Kohms.
1.bp.blogspot.com

/E plebnista...
 
2012-12-06 09:56:13 AM
I think I'll pass. The '09 was not bad, not regretful that I saw it, but have never looked at it since. If I catch the new one for super-cheap maybe.
 
2012-12-06 09:56:41 AM

Samwise Gamgee: Another snarling Space Villain motivated by revenge. This schtick is getting old.

Anyone remember when Trek used to be about exploration and not motherfarking combat all the time?


As history would show you can't have exploration without there being some form of combat resulting from it.

Especially with Star Trek seeing as how the Federation are practically communists while everyone else in the galaxy appears to be free market based.
 
2012-12-06 09:56:52 AM

Carth: Samwise Gamgee: Another snarling Space Villain motivated by revenge. This schtick is getting old.

Anyone remember when Trek used to be about exploration and not motherfarking combat all the time?

Yea, those movies did horrible.


It *is* possible to make good ones. Anyway, the best ones HAD space combat, but it wasn't what the movie was all about. One of my favorites, The Undiscovered Country, had a lot to say about xenophobia, diplomacy, forgiveness, etc, and managed to rock an awesome battle sequence all the same. And the villain's motivation was to protect the way of life of his homeworld in the face of a changing world. This whole Captain Ahab routine they keep falling back on is seriously getting old. Hell, Picard was the snarling one out for revenge in First Contact. You know, there are other things that can motivate people...
 
2012-12-06 09:56:53 AM

Joe_diGriz: HD quality, non-YouTube version here

/Seriously, 360p?


Joe diGriz? Any relation to "Slippery" Jim diGriz??
 
2012-12-06 09:56:55 AM

Alphax: Also, is the Enterprise now watertight, like the Phoenix in Battle of the Planets?


NERDY COMMENT: Idoubt it, since space craft are designed to keep together in the vacuum of space, the pressure of the oceanwould crush it. Thought I don't know much about reflector shields.
 
2012-12-06 09:57:09 AM
Nice trailer. But I'm getting a strong Dark Knight Rises vibe from it, which is a little disconcerting.
 
2012-12-06 09:57:20 AM

Carth: Samwise Gamgee: Another snarling Space Villain motivated by revenge. This schtick is getting old.

Anyone remember when Trek used to be about exploration and not motherfarking combat all the time?

Yea, those movies did horrible.


What does god need with a quality script?
 
2012-12-06 09:57:55 AM

Boudyro: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Carth: We're talking about a civilization that has mastered faster than light travel and teleportation. I would hope they could engineer a spaceship that could also go underwater.

Sounds like a typical government project

Gentlemen here is our prototype design of the new Constitution Class Starship. Will hold a crew of approximately 700. With two of the new LN-64B Mod 1 warp engines it will be able to sustain Warp 9 with an upper limit of Warp 13. The sensor bays will be able...

Is it waterproof?

Ugghh, excuse me sir?

You know, can it go under water?

Well sir we don't envision a scenario where the cruiser would have to be submerged so we...

I want it waterproof.

Roger that sir, we will get the engineers working on that.

Not to let my nerd flag fly but you can't go faster than Warp 10 or you turn into a salamander and have to bang the captain.


The warp scae was recalibrated by the time of TNG. In the old days you saw Kirk going Warp 15+.
 
2012-12-06 09:58:34 AM

danny_kay: RexTalionis: Yeah, well, Voyager was able to travel through fluidic space, which is even denser than water.

/How big of a nerd am I?

How YOU doin'?


Aww yeah, I am ultra-nerdy today.
 
2012-12-06 09:59:17 AM
Shut up and take my money.
 
2012-12-06 09:59:48 AM

Carth: Samwise Gamgee: Another snarling Space Villain motivated by revenge. This schtick is getting old.

Anyone remember when Trek used to be about exploration and not motherfarking combat all the time?

Yea, those movies did horrible.


Yeah, they did so horrible that they made 6 (7 if you count Generations) starring the original cast, and 4 starring the TNG cast... though 3/4 of the TNG ones did suck.

What franchise has more films, except for James Bond?
 
2012-12-06 09:59:50 AM
Well, I am all jazzed up about it. I liked the Abrams Star Trek, lens flare and all.


/Still waiting on a good TNG movie.
 
2012-12-06 10:00:36 AM

Samwise Gamgee: What franchise has more films, except for James Bond?


Ernest go to Rura Penthe?
 
2012-12-06 10:04:12 AM
I'm sure I heard a while back that Carol Marcus was going to be introduced as a love interest for Kirk...

The hot blonde girl in the trailer would seem like a good fit for that role.

/just saying
 
2012-12-06 10:05:30 AM
i284.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-06 10:07:30 AM
trekweb.com

Incidentally, IDW Comics have started a comic book series of Star Trek where they adapt all the episodes of The Original Series, but drawn with the new cast:

trekweb.com

Funnily enough, the first issue was about Gary Mitchell:
images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-12-06 10:07:57 AM

Alphax: Also, is the Enterprise now watertight, like the Phoenix in Battle of the Planets?


More like a frog's ass.
 
2012-12-06 10:08:33 AM
In other news, the 2009 Star Trek is no longer available on Netflix streaming. I am really beginning to hate the entertainment industry and the idiotic licencing games they play.
 
2012-12-06 10:09:08 AM

Alphax: Also, is the Enterprise now watertight, like the Phoenix in Battle of the Planets?


Wouldn't shields make it watertight?
 
2012-12-06 10:09:28 AM

Samwise Gamgee: Carth: Samwise Gamgee: Another snarling Space Villain motivated by revenge. This schtick is getting old.

Anyone remember when Trek used to be about exploration and not motherfarking combat all the time?

Yea, those movies did horrible.

Yeah, they did so horrible that they made 6 (7 if you count Generations) starring the original cast, and 4 starring the TNG cast... though 3/4 of the TNG ones did suck.

What franchise has more films, except for James Bond?


Friday the 13th had 10 films. 11 if you count Freddy Vs. Jason, and 12 if you count the remake.
 
2012-12-06 10:09:56 AM

RexTalionis: Funnily enough, the first issue was about Gary Mitchell:


Er, second issue.
 
2012-12-06 10:10:49 AM

DamnYankees: Alphax: Also, is the Enterprise now watertight, like the Phoenix in Battle of the Planets?

Wouldn't shields make it watertight?


If so, it would never sink. The amount of air contained within the shield area would make the ship float.
 
2012-12-06 10:11:48 AM

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: DamnYankees: Alphax: Also, is the Enterprise now watertight, like the Phoenix in Battle of the Planets?

Wouldn't shields make it watertight?

If so, it would never sink. The amount of air contained within the shield area would make the ship float.


There's no air in the shield area in the new ST. In the 2009 film there's no 'bubble', I think.
 
2012-12-06 10:12:01 AM
This could very well be a good movie, but watching the Enterprise emerge from water caused the theme song from STAR BLAZERS to start playing in my head. Now, I'm quitely hoping that this film will have a poorly dubbed English language track and that the Enterprise's sensor dish will be replaced with a wave-motion gun.
 
2012-12-06 10:12:54 AM
WHAT IS ALL THIS EXPLOSIONS AND SHOOTINGS AND PUNCHES AND JUMPS?! Where is the cerebral, thought provoking exploration and diplomacy stories from the Star Trek we know and love... I mean, in "Where No Man Has Gone Before", they... uh... no one punc- um... no one fired a ph.... errr...

YAY! STAR TREK IS BACK!!!
 
2012-12-06 10:13:08 AM
Go watch the Japanese version of the trailer for this little snippet at the end. Picture link, possible spoiler...  

/think they're just farking with us
 
2012-12-06 10:13:19 AM

DamnYankees: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: DamnYankees: Alphax: Also, is the Enterprise now watertight, like the Phoenix in Battle of the Planets?

Wouldn't shields make it watertight?

If so, it would never sink. The amount of air contained within the shield area would make the ship float.

There's no air in the shield area in the new ST. In the 2009 film there's no 'bubble', I think.


They also seemed to have little effect on Romulan missiles.
 
2012-12-06 10:14:04 AM

PsyLord:
Well, it was built for space travel, so anywhere between zero and one (in reference to how much atm of pressure it can withstand).


Came for the Professor, leaving satisfied.
 
2012-12-06 10:17:00 AM

DamnYankees: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: DamnYankees: Alphax: Also, is the Enterprise now watertight, like the Phoenix in Battle of the Planets?

Wouldn't shields make it watertight?

If so, it would never sink. The amount of air contained within the shield area would make the ship float.

There's no air in the shield area in the new ST. In the 2009 film there's no 'bubble', I think.


I was working on the premise that if a shield could make the ship airtight it would also make it buoyant. or are you saying that the shield is basically right at the skin of the ship. I always thought they looked like:

www.stardestroyer.net

Which would explain

www.stardestroyer.net 

/this thread went nerd factor brazillion quick
 
2012-12-06 10:18:30 AM
I....think I'm waiting for cable on this one.
 
2012-12-06 10:18:38 AM

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: I was working on the premise that if a shield could make the ship airtight it would also make it buoyant. or are you saying that the shield is basically right at the skin of the ship. I always thought they looked like:


In the new ST it looked like a skin, correct. I don't recall ever seeing a bubble.
 
2012-12-06 10:21:49 AM

DamnYankees: Alphax: Also, is the Enterprise now watertight, like the Phoenix in Battle of the Planets?

Wouldn't shields make it watertight?


Wouldn't the farking hull make it watertight? The ship travels through the vacuum of space and has an internal atmosphere? Why wouldn't it also be watertight?
 
2012-12-06 10:21:55 AM
They have repeatedly said: It is absolutely not Khan Noonien Singh
 
2012-12-06 10:23:40 AM

Mugato: Wouldn't the farking hull make it watertight? The ship travels through the vacuum of space and has an internal atmosphere? Why wouldn't it also be watertight?


Your point. It's good.

Kazan: They have repeatedly said: It is absolutely not Khan Noonien Singh


Correct, it's not. He's playing Gary Mitchell. I thought that was well known.
 
2012-12-06 10:25:07 AM

GAT_00: Counter-argument: the Bird of Prey was clearly space worthy and it sunk.


You can be water tight and still sink. It's all about buoyancy. I doubt a Bird of Prey displaces its own weight. I'm sure the same can be said of The Enterprise.

/I can't believe I'm getting into this discussion.
 
2012-12-06 10:29:04 AM

Mugato: DamnYankees: Alphax: Also, is the Enterprise now watertight, like the Phoenix in Battle of the Planets?

Wouldn't shields make it watertight?

Wouldn't the farking hull make it watertight? The ship travels through the vacuum of space and has an internal atmosphere? Why wouldn't it also be watertight?


The pressure would be in the opposite direction under water, or in the lower atmosphere.
 
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