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(Pro Football Talk)   Kansas City Chiefs coach and GM to get mandatory counseling after seeing successful use of the shotgun   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 67
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2012-12-06 10:26:02 AM  
I heard it was the pistol.

/but yeah, someone walks up to me and shoots themselves in the head, I'm probably going to desire some counseling
 
2012-12-06 11:24:18 AM  
They should. That shiat would fark anyone up.
 
2012-12-06 11:26:11 AM  
Aisle please.
 
2012-12-06 11:26:39 AM  
I know it's wrong and horrible and I'm a terrible person for even thinking it, but if this ends up saving Pioli's and Crennel's jobs, I'm going to be pissed.
 
2012-12-06 11:28:49 AM  

jayhawk88: I know it's wrong and horrible and I'm a terrible person for even thinking it, but if this ends up saving Pioli's and Crennel's jobs, I'm going to be pissed.


Agree. Good comment from someone living in that state
 
2012-12-06 11:29:52 AM  
I hope the previous play was a Hail Mary.
 
2012-12-06 11:32:27 AM  

jayhawk88: I know it's wrong and horrible and I'm a terrible person for even thinking it, but if this ends up saving Pioli's and Crennel's jobs, I'm going to be pissed.


i was just talking about this yesterday. Its kinda possible. I mean, we'll see how the rest of the season goes, but if somehow, the chiefs can win a couple of the last few games. They might be staying. Given all thats happened.
 
2012-12-06 11:34:50 AM  
HOTY material.
 
2012-12-06 11:35:59 AM  
too soon? yeesh
 
2012-12-06 11:45:18 AM  
The pistol is both the correct weapon and a real formation, so subby fails.

/If it HAD been a shotgun, though... yeesh.
//DNRTFA, but I feel really bad for Jamaal Charles, too- Perkins was his cousin, and he introduced the two.
 
2012-12-06 11:46:31 AM  

IAmRight: I heard it was the pistol.

/but yeah, someone walks up to me and shoots themselves in the head, I'm probably going to desire some counseling


Dated a girl for a bit that watched her boyfriend shoot himself in the head.
/She was hot but was definitely scarred.
 
2012-12-06 11:49:58 AM  
IAmRight: but yeah, someone walks up to me and shoots themselves in the head, I'm probably going to desire some counseling

it depends on who it is. If all of the Black Eyed Peas walked up to me and then just shot themselves dead, I would consider that to be a pretty sweet day. But if Mila Kunis or Rachel Bilson ever did that in front of me, it's doubtful I would ever be the same person ever again.

So it's all about perspective, I guess.
 
2012-12-06 11:51:23 AM  

litespeed74: IAmRight: I heard it was the pistol.

/but yeah, someone walks up to me and shoots themselves in the head, I'm probably going to desire some counseling

Dated a girl for a bit that watched her boyfriend shoot himself in the head.
/She was hot but was definitely scarred.


Must have been a wildcat in the sack, though I'm guessing it also made her slot a wide receiver.
 
2012-12-06 11:52:43 AM  

vinnydoz007: jayhawk88: I know it's wrong and horrible and I'm a terrible person for even thinking it, but if this ends up saving Pioli's and Crennel's jobs, I'm going to be pissed.

i was just talking about this yesterday. Its kinda possible. I mean, we'll see how the rest of the season goes, but if somehow, the chiefs can win a couple of the last few games. They might be staying. Given all thats happened.


Tell me this isn't frighteningly possible:

- Remaining schedule: @Clev, @Oak, Indy, @Denver. Chiefs probably won't be favored in any of those games, but @Oak and @Clev are winnable (Cleveland is a better team than KC, but with their offense, you really can't put them down as an easy win for any game). Denver will probably have the West wrapped up and their playoff slot set by Dec 30, good chance they'll rest starters. 3-1, or at least 2-2 is not out of the realm of possibility.

- Brady Quinn played well last week, and showed a lot of heart/leadership with that after-game interview/speech he had. Is he now the leader of that locker room? Who knows of course, but if he plays well the team will rally around him, like they did Orton at the end of last year.

- Quinn plays well to finish off the year, and the Chiefs win their way out of the #1 overall. With 4 or 5 wins they probably slip to #3-6 pick range, as Jax, Oak, Arizona, Philly, and Carolina are all right there for finishing in the 4-5 win range as well. Cassel has to go at this point, taking anyone besides Geno Smith or Barkley with a top 5 pick would be a ridiculous reach, and the free-agent market for QB's this year is probably going to peak with Matt Moore or Tarvaris Jackson. Quinn might be the best looking FA QB out there, and with the only other valid option being Stanzi or taking a project in the 2nd or 3rd round, the Chiefs will talk themselves into giving Quinn something like 4 years/$45 million/$20 mil guaranteed.

- Pioli and Crennel are brought back after the team shows progress. Quinn is your new "franchise" QB, the Chiefs waste their first rounder on another SEC defensive end who doesn't fit into the 3-4. Dwayne Bowe laughs all the way to Chicago or New England. Chiefs flounder to another 2 or 3 win season in 2013, waste another year of Jamaal Charles, and still don't have the QB position solved as Quinn shows us that he is still Brady Quinn.
 
2012-12-06 11:56:34 AM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: The pistol is both the correct weapon and a real formation, so subby fails.

/If it HAD been a shotgun, though... yeesh.
//DNRTFA, but I feel really bad for Jamaal Charles, too- Perkins was his cousin, and he introduced the two.


Ah, but the Shotgun is a well known play, even among non-football fans. A Pistol is not.
 
2012-12-06 11:57:07 AM  

jayhawk88: - Remaining schedule: @Clev, @Oak, Indy, @Denver. Chiefs probably won't be favored in any of those games, but @Oak and @Clev are winnable (Cleveland is a better team than KC, but with their offense, you really can't put them down as an easy win for any game). Denver will probably have the West wrapped up and their playoff slot set by Dec 30, good chance they'll rest starters. 3-1, or at least 2-2 is not out of the realm of possibility.

- Brady Quinn played well last week, and showed a lot of heart/leadership with that after-game interview/speech he had. Is he now the leader of that locker room? Who knows of course, but if he plays well the team will rally around him, like they did Orton at the end of last year.

- Quinn plays well to finish off the year, and the Chiefs win their way out of the #1 overall. With 4 or 5 wins they probably slip to #3-6 pick range, as Jax, Oak, Arizona, Philly, and Carolina are all right there for finishing in the 4-5 win range as well. Cassel has to go at this point, taking anyone besides Geno Smith or Barkley with a top 5 pick would be a ridiculous reach, and the free-agent market for QB's this year is probably going to peak with Matt Moore or Tarvaris Jackson. Quinn might be the best looking FA QB out there, and with the only other valid option being Stanzi or taking a project in the 2nd or 3rd round, the Chiefs will talk themselves into giving Quinn something like 4 years/$45 million/$20 mil guaranteed.

- Pioli and Crennel are brought back after the team shows progress. Quinn is your new "franchise" QB, the Chiefs waste their first rounder on another SEC defensive end who doesn't fit into the 3-4. Dwayne Bowe laughs all the way to Chicago or New England. Chiefs flounder to another 2 or 3 win season in 2013, waste another year of Jamaal Charles, and still don't have the QB position solved as Quinn shows us that he is still Brady Quinn.


That isn't frighteningly possible.

It's a damn near lead pipe lock.
 
2012-12-06 11:57:16 AM  
Good.

My brother also had to get mandatory counseling when, his first day on the job at a hospital, he was the first on scene when a patient killed herself. He administered CPR to a woman who was likely dead already (if not simply brain-dead).

// what got him out the depression was the docs telling him that CPR is only effective/successful like 1 in 7 times
 
2012-12-06 11:58:12 AM  

jayhawk88: vinnydoz007: jayhawk88: I know it's wrong and horrible and I'm a terrible person for even thinking it, but if this ends up saving Pioli's and Crennel's jobs, I'm going to be pissed.

i was just talking about this yesterday. Its kinda possible. I mean, we'll see how the rest of the season goes, but if somehow, the chiefs can win a couple of the last few games. They might be staying. Given all thats happened.

Tell me this isn't frighteningly possible:

[tragic wall of text]


damn, maybe he should have turned the gun on them first...and if anyone gives quinn 20mil guaranteed they should be executed.
 
2012-12-06 12:05:59 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: The pistol is both the correct weapon and a real formation, so subby fails.

/If it HAD been a shotgun, though... yeesh.
//DNRTFA, but I feel really bad for Jamaal Charles, too- Perkins was his cousin, and he introduced the two.


Damn I didnt know that about jamaal, yeesh
 
2012-12-06 12:12:30 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Incorrigible Astronaut: The pistol is both the correct weapon and a real formation, so subby fails.

/If it HAD been a shotgun, though... yeesh.
//DNRTFA, but I feel really bad for Jamaal Charles, too- Perkins was his cousin, and he introduced the two.

Damn I didnt know that about jamaal, yeesh


Wait, what's with Jamaal? I haven't seen anything relating to him in the news.
 
2012-12-06 12:17:15 PM  

A Fark Handle: damn, maybe he should have turned the gun on them first...and if anyone gives quinn 20mil guaranteed they should be executed.


Someone is going to do it. 4 years or $20 mil guaranteed might be a bit much, but consider the sheer number of teams that will be looking for a new QB. Chiefs, Jags (probably), Raiders (Carson has another 2 years guaranteed, but at $13 and $15 million, the Raiders might cut him and save some of that), Philly (maybe), Cardinals (definitely). Bill and Jets probably stick with Fitz and Sanchez, just for contract reasons, but then again they might not. Browns, Titans, and Vikins probably stay with their young starters but again, you never know.

Three, maybe four of those teams will end up picking a QB in the first round that they'll feel good about starting soon/immediately (Smith, Barkley, and pick 2 from Tyler Wilson/Aaron Murray/Landry Jones/Tyler Bray, depending on how their combine/workouts go). Matt Moore is the only available FA QB that anyone is going to consider giving a starting job to. That's at least one, maybe as many as 3 or 4, teams left out in the cold.

If Quinn is competent down the stretch, he's getting paid, no question about it.
 
2012-12-06 12:20:30 PM  

jayhawk88: I know it's wrong and horrible and I'm a terrible person for even thinking it, but if this ends up saving Pioli's and Crennel's jobs....


which leads to millions of Chief fans seeking counseling.
 
2012-12-06 12:25:10 PM  

thecpt: Igor Jakovsky: Incorrigible Astronaut: The pistol is both the correct weapon and a real formation, so subby fails.

/If it HAD been a shotgun, though... yeesh.
//DNRTFA, but I feel really bad for Jamaal Charles, too- Perkins was his cousin, and he introduced the two.

Damn I didnt know that about jamaal, yeesh

Wait, what's with Jamaal? I haven't seen anything relating to him in the news.


Jamaal's wife was Perkins cousin, not Jamaal. But he was the one that introduced Perkins to Belcher.
 
2012-12-06 12:31:23 PM  
There is no way in hell that Crennel and Pioli keep their jobs.

Time heals all wounds, and the memory of Belcher's actions won't be enough to save those two in a couple of months.

Presuming that Hunt isn't as out of touch with the fan base as I think he is. I like Romeo, but his career peak was as a DC.
 
2012-12-06 12:35:22 PM  
You know the Chiefs are bad when it's December and the biggest thing on KC's two sports stations is a possible Royals trade.
 
2012-12-06 12:40:01 PM  
Romeo makes Art Shell look animated. Even his supposedly great locker room speech after that game seemed dispassionate and businesslike. Creeped me out, I know people process emotion differently but Jesus, you can wear your a little bit heart on your sleeve when you deal with something.like that.
 
2012-12-06 12:44:28 PM  

jayhawk88: I know it's wrong and horrible and I'm a terrible person for even thinking it, but if this ends up saving Pioli's and Crennel's jobs, I'm going to be pissed.


I LOL'd

/Steelers
 
2012-12-06 12:47:53 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: You know the Chiefs are bad when it's December and the biggest thing on KC's two sports stations is a possible Royals trade.


I hate it that you're right...
 
2012-12-06 12:58:44 PM  

jayhawk88: vinnydoz007: jayhawk88: I know it's wrong and horrible and I'm a terrible person for even thinking it, but if this ends up saving Pioli's and Crennel's jobs, I'm going to be pissed.

Tell me this isn't frighteningly possible:

*snip*

- Quinn plays well to finish off the year, and the Chiefs win their way out of the #1 overall. With 4 or 5 wins they probably slip to #3-6 pick range, as Jax, Oak, Arizona, Philly, and Carolina are all right there for finishing in the 4-5 win range as well. Cassel has to go at this point, taking anyone besides Geno Smith or Barkley with a top 5 pick would be a ridiculous reach, and the free-agent market for QB's this year is probably going to peak with Matt Moore or Tarvaris Jackson. Quinn might be the best looking FA QB out there, and with the only other valid option being Stanzi or taking a project in the 2nd or 3rd round, the Chiefs will talk themselves into giving Quinn something like 4 years/$45 million/$20 mil guaranteed.


There will be a few more out there as well: Vick is a goner in Philly, Flynn will likely be out in Seattle (didn't sign on to warm the bench), Tebow will get moved for a 7th or cut. None of those three are viable options long term, but they will be out there.
 
2012-12-06 01:06:45 PM  

Klivian: There will be a few more out there as well: Vick is a goner in Philly, Flynn will likely be out in Seattle (didn't sign on to warm the bench), Tebow will get moved for a 7th or cut. None of those three are viable options long term, but they will be out there.


I think Alex Smith's days as a 49er are over (and I wouldn't mind one bit if the Chiefs tried to get him).
 
2012-12-06 01:18:20 PM  

Ponzholio: Klivian: There will be a few more out there as well: Vick is a goner in Philly, Flynn will likely be out in Seattle (didn't sign on to warm the bench), Tebow will get moved for a 7th or cut. None of those three are viable options long term, but they will be out there.

I think Alex Smith's days as a 49er are over (and I wouldn't mind one bit if the Chiefs tried to get him).


I believe the 9ers are stuck with him for a bit after their apology contract last year. Both the 9ers and Jets gave awful deals after courting Manning. Bonus money on contracts accelerates when a player is moved, and it's a lot to eat on one year now that teams have to skate so close to the cap every year.
 
2012-12-06 01:24:22 PM  

Ponzholio: Klivian: There will be a few more out there as well: Vick is a goner in Philly, Flynn will likely be out in Seattle (didn't sign on to warm the bench), Tebow will get moved for a 7th or cut. None of those three are viable options long term, but they will be out there.

I think Alex Smith's days as a 49er are over (and I wouldn't mind one bit if the Chiefs tried to get him).


Alex seems to direct the offense very well, a good leader, and the Eagles desperately need this skill. As much as want Philly to succeed (my son's favorite team), KC might be a better place for him. Philly needs a big, quick QB who can handle the attacks permitted by that porous O-line.

/I don't know how good or bad the KC O-line is.
 
2012-12-06 01:36:33 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: The pistol is both the correct weapon and a real formation, so subby fails.

/If it HAD been a shotgun, though... yeesh.
//DNRTFA, but I feel really bad for Jamaal Charles, too- Perkins was his cousin, and he introduced the two.


Yeah, but the pistol formation is relatively new (started around 2004) and mostly used in college. Some NFL teams have had plays that use it but being just 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage doesn't give you the protection you need when the defense is that much faster.
 
2012-12-06 01:50:33 PM  

ddam: Incorrigible Astronaut: The pistol is both the correct weapon and a real formation, so subby fails.

/If it HAD been a shotgun, though... yeesh.
//DNRTFA, but I feel really bad for Jamaal Charles, too- Perkins was his cousin, and he introduced the two.

Yeah, but the pistol formation is relatively new (started around 2004) and mostly used in college. Some NFL teams have had plays that use it but being just 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage doesn't give you the protection you need when the defense is that much faster.


FWIW the wiki entry photograph shows the Chiefs in the pistol formation.

/trolling?
//wiki'd cuz I thought it was older - a rehash of a 40's offense or something.
/ I was wrong
 
2012-12-06 01:54:31 PM  

Klivian: I believe the 9ers are stuck with him for a bit after their apology contract last year


The niners owe Smith a $9 million roster bonus if he's still there as of April 1st. Once March 12th hits, they will furiously spend the next 19 days trying to trade him, though the smart money says no team will trade for him knowing the Niners have to cut him anyway. So he'll be a free agent for sure.


But if any team thinks a dink and dunk artist with no pocket presence or escability, and who isn't accurate past 9 yards is the answer, then I don't know what to tell you. Smith was born to be a backup QB.
 
2012-12-06 02:00:02 PM  

Dr Dreidel: My brother also had to get mandatory counseling when, his first day on the job at a hospital, he was the first on scene when a patient killed herself. He administered CPR to a woman who was likely dead already (if not simply brain-dead).


Did your brother know this patient or was she a stranger?
 
2012-12-06 02:13:04 PM  

Tiberius Gracchus: ddam: Incorrigible Astronaut: The pistol is both the correct weapon and a real formation, so subby fails.

/If it HAD been a shotgun, though... yeesh.
//DNRTFA, but I feel really bad for Jamaal Charles, too- Perkins was his cousin, and he introduced the two.

Yeah, but the pistol formation is relatively new (started around 2004) and mostly used in college. Some NFL teams have had plays that use it but being just 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage doesn't give you the protection you need when the defense is that much faster.

FWIW the wiki entry photograph shows the Chiefs in the pistol formation.

/trolling?
//wiki'd cuz I thought it was older - a rehash of a 40's offense or something.
/ I was wrong


Not trolling but I'm familiar with the pistol offense due to living in Los Angeles and the failed experiment their last coach had with the pistol offense. I used to heal a lot about it on sports radio. This season they had UCLA's new head coach on radio every week and at the beginning of the season he was stating why the pistol doesn't really work in the NFL even if a few teams tried it after the success Nevada had in the late 2000s with it.
 
2012-12-06 02:16:22 PM  
ddam:

I didn't mean you - I meant whoever chose to post the Chiefs for wiki's photograph of the pistol offense. It would be a tremendously subtle troll, so of course I'm sure it's a coincidence. However, given the context of this thread, the discussion of pistol vs shotgun in the headline, I found it weirdly appropriate.
 
2012-12-06 02:17:49 PM  

Tiberius Gracchus: ddam:

I didn't mean you - I meant whoever chose to post the Chiefs for wiki's photograph of the pistol offense. It would be a tremendously subtle troll, so of course I'm sure it's a coincidence. However, given the context of this thread, the discussion of pistol vs shotgun in the headline, I found it weirdly appropriate.


Oh, I don't know about that part. Maybe you can check when that picture was last edited. If it was in the past week then it's trolling.
 
2012-12-06 02:17:52 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: Dr Dreidel: My brother also had to get mandatory counseling when, his first day on the job at a hospital, he was the first on scene when a patient killed herself. He administered CPR to a woman who was likely dead already (if not simply brain-dead).

Did your brother know this patient or was she a stranger?


Good point. I assume he'd met her at some point during his orientation, but "strangers" is the correct term for their relationship. Crennel and Pioli probably need counseling that much more, since this was a kid they had coached and mentored for years.
 
2012-12-06 02:41:01 PM  
Well done, subby. Well done.
 
2012-12-06 03:23:39 PM  

ddam: Tiberius Gracchus: ddam:

I didn't mean you - I meant whoever chose to post the Chiefs for wiki's photograph of the pistol offense. It would be a tremendously subtle troll, so of course I'm sure it's a coincidence. However, given the context of this thread, the discussion of pistol vs shotgun in the headline, I found it weirdly appropriate.

Oh, I don't know about that part. Maybe you can check when that picture was last edited. If it was in the past week then it's trolling.


It's likely because KC relied heavily on the pistol formation when Thigpen became the starter. May even been the first real use of it in the NFL.
 
2012-12-06 03:23:55 PM  

Tiberius Gracchus: ddam:

I didn't mean you - I meant whoever chose to post the Chiefs for wiki's photograph of the pistol offense. It would be a tremendously subtle troll, so of course I'm sure it's a coincidence. However, given the context of this thread, the discussion of pistol vs shotgun in the headline, I found it weirdly appropriate.


The Chiefs used the pistol formation a lot in 2008 when they were stuck with Tyler Thigpen at QB. Their (then) OC Chan Gailey is largely responsible for introducing it to the NFL.
 
2012-12-06 03:28:46 PM  

dethmagnetic: Tiberius Gracchus: ddam:

I didn't mean you - I meant whoever chose to post the Chiefs for wiki's photograph of the pistol offense. It would be a tremendously subtle troll, so of course I'm sure it's a coincidence. However, given the context of this thread, the discussion of pistol vs shotgun in the headline, I found it weirdly appropriate.

The Chiefs used the pistol formation a lot in 2008 when they were stuck with Tyler Thigpen at QB. Their (then) OC Chan Gailey is largely responsible for introducing it to the NFL.


Actually, taking a look at the photo, that is Thiggy at QB in 2008. I was actually at that game (he broke his really long streak of no interceptions on a hail mary at the end).

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-06 03:49:50 PM  
Is this where I ask who I should start this week?

At WR Ive got Smith, Wesson, Heckler, and Koch...

/feels so bad...
 
2012-12-06 03:51:42 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: The pistol is both the correct weapon and a real formation, so subby fails.

/If it HAD been a shotgun, though... yeesh.
//DNRTFA, but I feel really bad for Jamaal Charles, too- Perkins was his cousin, and he introduced the two.


The problem, though, is people generally don't talk about it as "the pistol" but rather as "the pistol formation" whereas we just frequently say "the shotgun".
 
2012-12-06 04:22:52 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Klivian: I believe the 9ers are stuck with him for a bit after their apology contract last year

The niners owe Smith a $9 million roster bonus if he's still there as of April 1st. Once March 12th hits, they will furiously spend the next 19 days trying to trade him, though the smart money says no team will trade for him knowing the Niners have to cut him anyway. So he'll be a free agent for sure.


But if any team thinks a dink and dunk artist with no pocket presence or escability, and who isn't accurate past 9 yards is the answer, then I don't know what to tell you. Smith was born to be a backup QB.


I say this as a Patriots fan, but I happen to know of a very successful QB who isn't mobile and can't throw to the sidelines or throw a deep ball to save his life. I can't quickly find a good source to verify, but I'd think Smith is at least comparatively as accurate (and inaccurate) as Tom Brady across all ranges with regard to completion %. Overall, Smith (though with fewer attempts) is #1 in the NFL in accuracy. If I were to guess the major difference between the 2, it's 1.) the surrounding players, but also 2.) super pinpoint accuracy ; though his skills are waning, Brady has this knack for hitting guys on the hands in the perfect spot to allow the receiver to continue running. Not many other QB's can do that.
A good point of comparison (hey, in a Chiefs thread!) would be Matt Cassel. He ran the New England offense, was kept on a leash, and led the Pats to 11 wins on 63% completion/3600 yards.
Given the right situation (ie not the Chiefs current personnel), there's no reason Smith can't take a team just as far.
 
2012-12-06 04:27:36 PM  
Well at least the Chef fans can enjoy the beatdown my Broncos are gonna give the Rayduuhs tonight! I think Chef fans hate the Rayduuhs worse than they hate my Broncos. Pretty sure of that, but not certain. Any Chef fans who can tell me who they'll be rooting against tonight?
 
2012-12-06 04:32:38 PM  

Ponzholio: Klivian: There will be a few more out there as well: Vick is a goner in Philly, Flynn will likely be out in Seattle (didn't sign on to warm the bench), Tebow will get moved for a 7th or cut. None of those three are viable options long term, but they will be out there.

I think Alex Smith's days as a 49er are over (and I wouldn't mind one bit if the Chiefs tried to get him).


I feel weird using this thread to talk about that, but this is the only NFL one of the day.

As someone mentioned in a thread a few days ago, I think this is going to be one of the most active/interesting NFL offseasons in quite awhile. There are several backup/marginal starters that have contracts coming up or will be owed big money by their team, there more teams than ever that have a legitimate shot at making the Super Bowl, and there are quite a few fringe teams that are a player/coach/coordinator away from being really good. Then, there are the perennial train wrecks that provide serious lulz and WTFs.
 
2012-12-06 04:35:12 PM  

Friction8r: Well at least the Chef fans can enjoy the beatdown my Broncos are gonna give the Rayduuhs tonight! I think Chef fans hate the Rayduuhs worse than they hate my Broncos. Pretty sure of that, but not certain. Any Chef fans who can tell me who they'll be rooting against tonight?


I'm rooting for an asteroid to hit the stadium.
 
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