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(The Hollywood Reporter)   With plenty of time on their hands after solving that whole Fiscal Cliff problem, Senator Harry Reid is planning to screen the film "Lincoln" for the US Senate   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 50
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2012-12-06 05:30:56 AM
A little grease for the gears, maybe.
 
2012-12-06 07:19:17 AM
show what a statesman is.
 
2012-12-06 07:22:02 AM

sithon: show what a statesman is.


The Republicans will only take one thing from the film... "LINCOLN WAS A REPUBLICAN! HE'S OURS! WE WIN!"

...Either that, or they'll want to meet him in a darkened Ford's Theater because he freed the slaves, which eventually led to Obama's Presidency.
 
2012-12-06 10:36:22 AM
I don't have a problem with them doing that for a couple of hours, especially if there's a decent chance they come away inspired to serve their country better.
 
2012-12-06 11:08:34 AM

FirstNationalBastard: sithon: show what a statesman is.

The Republicans will only take one thing from the film... "LINCOLN WAS A REPUBLICAN! HE'S OURS! WE WIN!"

...Either that, or they'll want to meet him in a darkened Ford's Theater because he freed the slaves, which eventually led to Obama's Presidency.


I'm thinking it's going to be pure outrage that Liberal Hollywood would portray such a uniting figure such as Lincoln in such a bad light...you know, caring about people.
 
2012-12-06 11:36:42 AM
At least charge them the matinee price.

/No Freebies!
 
2012-12-06 11:48:43 AM
It takes these guys 2 weeks to hit the ground after jumping out a 2nd floor window.....I'm guessing the movie will keep them busy until the mid term elections.
 
2012-12-06 11:49:14 AM
It was inspiring watching ol' Abe kill all those vampires.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2012-12-06 11:49:42 AM
They really should sit in the same room, yelling over each other without actually listening, for many more hours without a break or a change of scenery. I know when I'm trying to negotiate something tricky (like whose house Thanksgiving is going to be at) it's important to keep tempers high and refuse to do anything else.
 
2012-12-06 11:50:22 AM
One party will get the meaning of compromise for the greater good of the nation......the other party will only take away the point where the country headed in the wrong direction at the expense of their economy and personal religious beliefs in the name of fairness.
 
2012-12-06 11:51:19 AM

sithon: show what a statesman is.


"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."

Lincoln, FARK YEAH!
 
2012-12-06 11:51:44 AM
It is basically a couple hours solid of jokes about the volatility of party politics and the tendency of people who play the political game to lose track of what's going on in actual reality. So I guess a senator might appreciate it, at least, even though the current US senate and house are kind of the butt of the joke.
 
2012-12-06 11:54:17 AM
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Hope they turn off their gawdamned cell phones this time.

Goobers?
 
2012-12-06 11:55:54 AM
They'll all be very confused by the RINO on screen and the conspicuous absence of tax cuts.
 
2012-12-06 11:57:29 AM
Actually they do have plenty of free time. Budget matters are required to start in the House and they're doing jack.
 
2012-12-06 11:57:56 AM
It's gonna be hard to get the Cons to stop cheering during the Confederacy and slavery scenes.
 
2012-12-06 12:00:26 PM

Giltric: sithon: show what a statesman is.

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."

Lincoln, FARK YEAH!


So, a man of the 1860s is both racist and still cares about the 'inferior' race.

This is both shocking and disturbing. No, seriously. This is my shocked and disturbed face.
 
2012-12-06 12:01:48 PM

Jim_Callahan: It is basically a couple hours solid of jokes about the volatility of party politics and the tendency of people who play the political game to lose track of what's going on in actual reality. So I guess a senator might appreciate it, at least, even though the current US senate and house are kind of the butt of the joke.


Yeah, it's about as productive as showing Indian in the Cupboard to your toy box.
 
2012-12-06 12:02:04 PM
Next they should go bowling and do trust falls. Team building! Someone call HR.

Who knows, it might even work.
 
2012-12-06 12:05:32 PM

Infernalist: Giltric: sithon: show what a statesman is.

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."

Lincoln, FARK YEAH!

So, a man of the 1860s is both racist and still cares about the 'inferior' race.

This is both shocking and disturbing. No, seriously. This is my shocked and disturbed face.


How did he care about them?

The emancipation proclamation only freed the slaves in confederate states....it was totally tactical and not a humanitarian thing....
 
2012-12-06 12:06:41 PM
Meh. The Dems have no reason to accept anything other than their own terms (or something very close to it) before Jan 1. Might as well have some popcorn.
 
2012-12-06 12:09:56 PM

Giltric: How did he care about them?

The emancipation proclamation only freed the slaves in confederate states....it was totally tactical and not a humanitarian thing....


if only there was some kind of movie you could watch that explained the passage of the 13th amendment
 
2012-12-06 12:11:09 PM
www.cyberpunkreview.com 

Take a bath! Watch a movie!
 
2012-12-06 12:12:31 PM
What would subby have the Senate do, prior to some sort of agreement? What are they going to do, debate and pass a bill that hasn't even been written yet? Obama is the chief negotiator for the Democrats, not Harry Reid. Harry Reid's job is to get whatever agreement is finalized through the Senate.
 
2012-12-06 12:15:03 PM
Harry Reid should show some leadership, and bring the musical The Book of Mormon to the Senate floor.
 
2012-12-06 12:19:38 PM

sprawl15: if only there was some kind of movie you could watch ...


It was tactical in the sense of only freeing enslaved peoples, and not those already free. The bias against slave owners couldn't be more obvious.
 
2012-12-06 12:30:38 PM

neenerist: sprawl15: if only there was some kind of movie you could watch ...

It was tactical in the sense of only freeing enslaved peoples, and not those already free. The bias against slave owners couldn't be more obvious.


Except the million or so slaves in the North......
 
2012-12-06 12:33:09 PM

Giltric: Except the million or so slaves in the North......


You really think the 13th Amendment only applied to the south? Fascinating.
 
2012-12-06 12:33:17 PM

sprawl15: Giltric: How did he care about them?

The emancipation proclamation only freed the slaves in confederate states....it was totally tactical and not a humanitarian thing....

if only there was some kind of movie you could watch that explained the passage of the 13th amendment


Did they portray Lincoln in some sort of sugar coating? Does the movie talk about the northern slaves? Does it talk about how Lincoln viewed "negroes" as inferior? Or was the movie one of those hollywood revisionist history epics?

I doubt the movie is better than some of the books out there but I might give it a shot to see how they spin Lincoln.
 
2012-12-06 12:34:45 PM
Has anyone mentioned how these kinds of movies usually have a shill presentation beforehand about how they need to extend special SOPA and PIPA powers to hollywood to make sure that OOGABOOGA COPYRIGHT UNILATERALLY GOOD!

Anyone?
 
2012-12-06 12:36:11 PM
Freeing the slaves was big federal government intrusion into the lives of individuals!
 
2012-12-06 12:37:43 PM

sprawl15: Giltric: Except the million or so slaves in the North......

You really think the 13th Amendment only applied to the south? Fascinating.


Citation?
 
2012-12-06 12:38:43 PM

Giltric: sprawl15: Giltric: Except the million or so slaves in the North......

You really think the 13th Amendment only applied to the south? Fascinating.

Citation?


On what?
 
2012-12-06 12:42:06 PM

sprawl15: Giltric: sprawl15: Giltric: Except the million or so slaves in the North......

You really think the 13th Amendment only applied to the south? Fascinating.

Citation?

On what?


The words you say I said.

Are you female? Cause being coy is hot...but not if you are a dude.
 
2012-12-06 12:43:25 PM

Giltric: The words you say I said.


Uh...

Giltric: neenerist: sprawl15: if only there was some kind of movie you could watch that explained the passage of the 13th amendment

It was tactical in the sense of only freeing enslaved peoples, and not those already free. The bias against slave owners couldn't be more obvious.

Except the million or so slaves in the North......


Do you just not know how to read, or what?
 
2012-12-06 12:59:16 PM

Giltric: Infernalist: Giltric: sithon: show what a statesman is.

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."

Lincoln, FARK YEAH!

So, a man of the 1860s is both racist and still cares about the 'inferior' race.

This is both shocking and disturbing. No, seriously. This is my shocked and disturbed face.

How did he care about them?

The emancipation proclamation only freed the slaves in confederate states....it was totally tactical and not a humanitarian thing....


huh?
 
2012-12-06 01:03:28 PM

Giltric: huh?


You should really go see a doctor or something if a three line conversation confuses you this badly.
 
2012-12-06 01:08:08 PM

sprawl15: Giltric: huh?

You should really go see a doctor or something if a three line conversation confuses you this badly.


sprawl15: Giltric: How did he care about them?

The emancipation proclamation only freed the slaves in confederate states....it was totally tactical and not a humanitarian thing....

if only there was some kind of movie you could watch that explained the passage of the 13th amendment


I'm still trying to figure out how you read emancipation proclamation as 13th amendment.....what doctor do you use....I want to make sure I see someone else instead.

But in parting just a quick question....did the emancipation procamation free all of the slaves?
 
2012-12-06 01:11:33 PM

Giltric: I'm still trying to figure out how you read emancipation proclamation as 13th amendment.


I didn't, dumbshiat. You're ranting about the general perception of Lincoln on slavery - claiming his motivation was purely as a strategic effort in the war - and his efforts to pass the 13th Amendment are relevant to that claim.

Then you said the 13th Amendment only applied to the south. Seriously, there's no possible way you can be this stupid, is there?
 
2012-12-06 01:24:10 PM

sprawl15: Giltric: I'm still trying to figure out how you read emancipation proclamation as 13th amendment.

I didn't, dumbshiat. You're ranting about the general perception of Lincoln on slavery - claiming his motivation was purely as a strategic effort in the war - and his efforts to pass the 13th Amendment are relevant to that claim.

Then you said the 13th Amendment only applied to the south. Seriously, there's no possible way you can be this stupid, is there?


You raised the 13th Amendment not Giltric. Giltric seemed to be referring the Emancipation Proclamation. You seem to be all mixed-up sprawl15 IMHO.
 
2012-12-06 01:28:35 PM

mrshowrules: You raised the 13th Amendment not Giltric.


Oh wow, all the tards are coming out for this one.

Giltric claimed Lincoln was only interested in the Emancipation Proclamation for its effect on the war, and not out of a moral interest in freeing slaves.

Lincoln worked hard to pass the 13th Amendment, which freed all the slaves, against significant political pressure, an act that had no bearing on the war. If anything, it threatened to extend the war. That effort towards passing the 13th Amendment shows that Lincoln had a moral interest in freeing the slaves - not just a practical one.

Giltric responded to that by saying that it (the 13th Amendment) didn't apply to the northern slaves.

If you're still confused, find an adult to draw you some pictures.
 
2012-12-06 01:35:33 PM
Good! Maybe the GOP will learn what a real Republican is supposed to do.
 
2012-12-06 02:03:44 PM
If they see Lincoln free a single slave, they'll scream for the director's head on a platter.
 
2012-12-06 02:39:48 PM
Hey, cut them some slack! They need a break after all that hard work naming post offices.
 
2012-12-06 02:57:52 PM
I'll bet Lincoln is one of Harry Reid's heroes. Afterall, he was light skinned and didn't speak in a negro dialect unless he wanted to.
 
2012-12-06 03:01:19 PM

sprawl15: mrshowrules: You raised the 13th Amendment not Giltric.

Oh wow, all the tards are coming out for this one.

Giltric claimed Lincoln was only interested in the Emancipation Proclamation for its effect on the war, and not out of a moral interest in freeing slaves.

Lincoln worked hard to pass the 13th Amendment, which freed all the slaves, against significant political pressure, an act that had no bearing on the war. If anything, it threatened to extend the war. That effort towards passing the 13th Amendment shows that Lincoln had a moral interest in freeing the slaves - not just a practical one.

Giltric responded to that by saying that it (the 13th Amendment) didn't apply to the northern slaves.

If you're still confused, find an adult to draw you some pictures.


LOL. You sound mad and mixed-up. Bonus points for invoking "tards" while trying to appear socially progressive.

You managed to lose an argument despite having the no-brainer position. I think you could lose a debate with the position of being against rat poison in breakfast cereal.
 
2012-12-06 04:46:46 PM

mrshowrules: LOL. You sound mad and mixed-up. Bonus points for invoking "tards" while trying to appear socially progressive.

You managed to lose an argument despite having the no-brainer position. I think you could lose a debate with the position of being against rat poison in breakfast cereal.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-06 05:29:10 PM
Why not the senate passed their bill in JULY

Democrats did, however, take up a previous offer by McConnell on a vote that he seemed to think would fail, which he then declined to filibuster. In July the Senate voted to extend the Bush-era tax cuts for 98 percent of earners, but not for the richest 2 percent.


Sorry subtardmitter.
 
2012-12-06 11:22:04 PM

Giltric: sprawl15: Giltric: How did he care about them?

The emancipation proclamation only freed the slaves in confederate states....it was totally tactical and not a humanitarian thing....

if only there was some kind of movie you could watch that explained the passage of the 13th amendment

Did they portray Lincoln in some sort of sugar coating? Does the movie talk about the northern slaves? Does it talk about how Lincoln viewed "negroes" as inferior? Or was the movie one of those hollywood revisionist history epics?

I doubt the movie is better than some of the books out there but I might give it a shot to see how they spin Lincoln.


Actually, the movie IS better than many books. They fudge one or two things to easy the storytelling, but they're slight, inconsequential to the larger historical argument, and unless you were much, much better informed than somebody claiming Lincoln freed slaves only as a tactical measure would be, you would never notice.

They actually did a significant amount of historic research, and the movie has gotten praise from actual historians for the original argument- based on that serious research- about why Lincoln chose the moment he did to push for passage. Doris Kearns Goodwin- you know, the one who wrote the definitive Lincoln book of the decade- was pretty closely involved with this movie as well.

It's a thoroughly impressive movie, in terms of everything- the history, the writing, the acting. There's one moment at the end where Spielberg got a little cheesy with a scene transition, but otherwise, it's pretty much flawless- it'll take home an Oscar or two for sure. Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor are good bets, and it will get a Best Picture nomination, if not the win.

I do recommend seeing it.
 
2012-12-06 11:45:49 PM
Given that it's based on "A Team of Rivals", I've heard worse ideas.
 
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