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(Omaha World Herald)   What do you mean I can't take a gun into the bank? I'm the bank president   (omaha.com) divider line 54
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2012-12-06 10:26:46 AM
I do not "show off" my firearm regardless of where I carry it. The manager's behaviour is inexcusable.
 
2012-12-06 10:28:48 AM
www.examiner.com
Agrees
 
2012-12-06 10:30:03 AM
He should have brought a gub instead.
 
2012-12-06 10:30:53 AM
The guy bringing his gun to the bank is fine, but the fact he was waving it around to show off the laser is not.
 
2012-12-06 10:32:01 AM
From reading a few stories like this one, I'm convinced of two possibilities:

1) There's apparently lots of people in the U.S. and elsewhere that have extreme anxiety at even seeing a gun not in the posession of law enforcement. They feel personally threatened when they see ordinary citizens armed.

OR

2) There's lots of gun owners who brandish their weapons around in complete violation of the law.
 
2012-12-06 10:32:37 AM

1derful: The guy bringing his gun to the bank is fine, but the fact he was waving it around to show off the laser is not.


You are not allowed to post rational responses in a gun thread.
 
2012-12-06 10:32:39 AM

Dimensio: I do not "show off" my firearm regardless of where I carry it. The manager's behaviour is inexcusable.


You mean showing it off by pointing it at someone's head and chest is wrong? But I swear it's unloaded! Look at this cool thing I have!
 
2012-12-06 10:35:27 AM

Big Man On Campus: From reading a few stories like this one, I'm convinced of two possibilities:

1) There's apparently lots of people in the U.S. and elsewhere that have extreme anxiety at even seeing a gun not in the posession of law enforcement. They feel personally threatened when they see ordinary citizens armed.

OR

2) There's lots of gun owners who brandish their weapons around in complete violation of the law.


I suspect that both are true, to some extent, though I suspect the former to be far more common than the latter. A police officer informed that he prefers that citizens not carry firearms openly displayed specifically because insecure bystanders will contact police, resulting in a waste of resources. He did not object at all to carrying concealed firearms (with permit), however.
 
2012-12-06 10:36:29 AM

Vash's Apprentice: [www.examiner.com image 314x301]
Agrees


I just KNEW that was gonna be in here...
 
2012-12-06 10:37:13 AM
I'm the bank president
Not anymore, you're not.
 
2012-12-06 10:37:34 AM
Am I the only one that instantly thinks someone is a tool when they flick on their Crimson Trace at the range (or the bank...) I mean really, I hardly even need sights after the thousandth or so round I put through a new handgun. Lasers are the new spinning rims of the handgun world.
 
2012-12-06 10:37:39 AM
Oh, look, it's my former bank!
 
2012-12-06 10:37:40 AM
webpic.chinareviewnews.com
To be fair, bankers do have a recent history of egregious criminal activity.
 
2012-12-06 10:38:41 AM

Dimensio: I do not "show off" my firearm regardless of where I carry it. The manager's behaviour is inexcusable.


FTFA:
Cenovic, who has worked at the bank only a few months, told police that she and Dahir had argued. Later, after the bank closed, she noticed a laser dot move from her forehead to her chest, then to her computer.

Yeah, that's not showing off anything. That's threating someone with your CCW. You're missing the point if you think the guy needs to understand that he shouldn't be showing off a "cool new laser sight." He actually needs to understand that you don't threaten people with a defensive weapon after an argument.
 
2012-12-06 10:44:24 AM
Whiskey Dickens: Later, after the bank closed, she noticed a laser dot move from her forehead to her chest, then to her computer.

Humm, how do you notice a laser on your forehead? Desk mirror?
 
2012-12-06 10:46:12 AM

FilmBELOH20


Lasers are the new spinning rims of the handgun world.


Counterpoint: I don't use lasers, but I can see how they might be handy on a firearm with a very short sight radius.
 
2012-12-06 10:46:17 AM
1. Always treat all firearms as if they were loaded.
2. Never allow the muzzle of any firearm to point at anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Never put your finger near the trigger until you are ready to fire. Do not depend on any mechanical device for safety!
4. Always be sure of your target, and what is behind and in front of it.
 
2012-12-06 10:47:31 AM

kombat_unit: Whiskey Dickens: Later, after the bank closed, she noticed a laser dot move from her forehead to her chest, then to her computer.

Humm, how do you notice a laser on your forehead? Desk mirror?


She was probably visiting a website with a dark background.
 
2012-12-06 10:50:17 AM

1derful: The guy bringing his gun to the bank is fine, but the fact he was waving it around to show off the laser is not.


This.

You usually can't carry a gun into a bank. Yeah, a Bank President could probably get away with that.

Heck, I recall a story on Fark not too long ago about a Bank President who used his gun to thwart a robbery.

However, brandishing the firearm was way, WAY out of line. Trying to show off your new laser sights, in a bank, to a VP?

Bad Idea. Very Bad Idea.
 
2012-12-06 10:51:18 AM
Domina said the bank's board asked Dahir to stay away from the bank "while it sorts things out, and it's still in that process."

I think he'll be staying away from the bank for a while.
 
2012-12-06 10:54:40 AM

GregGates


2. Never allow the muzzle of any firearm to point at anything you are not willing to destroy.


Good safety advice is important, but people carry this one too far: the muzzle has to be pointed *somewhere* at all times simply because it exists. According to this statement, I am willing to let the long guns destroy the top of the gun cabinet since the muzzles are pointed in that direction.

Instead, one could say "don't aim at anything you are not willing to destroy", but there would be exceptions for that too, like getting a know a new firearm and looking at the sight picture in a non-shooty way. 

"Don't be an idiot" should be sufficient, but we can't get everyone to agree on what "idiot" means.
 
2012-12-06 10:56:28 AM
From the article:

Karen Cenovic, a biatch that wants to be bank president, reported the incident to police and the board
 
2012-12-06 10:56:47 AM
About 10years ago when I worked at a bank a co-worker was talking about seeing some shady looking guy hanging around outside the backdoor.

This new hire lady, Brenda, gets up and starts panicking saying "Oh lawd, he ain't gonna rape me! Dat's why I carry my .357" and she pulls it out of her purse and waves it around the room to let everyone know what her .357 looks like.

Brenda was 5'9", +350lbs, bald, had no teeth and was mistaken for a man several times.
Probably not in most rapist's demographic. Somehow she didn't get fired.

Turns out the "shady looking guy" was the bank president taking a smoke break.
 
2012-12-06 10:59:38 AM

Big Man On Campus: From reading a few stories like this one, I'm convinced of two possibilities:


2) There's lots of gun owners who brandish their weapons around in complete violation of the law.


in some states/areas, you are allowed to carry in a holster out in the open
 
2012-12-06 11:01:36 AM

sn0wblind


Big Man On Campus: From reading a few stories like this one, I'm convinced of two possibilities:

2) There's lots of gun owners who brandish their weapons around in complete violation of the law.


in some states/areas, you are allowed to carry in a holster out in the open


"Open carry" and "brandish" are two very different things.
 
2012-12-06 11:02:10 AM
This guy also hired his alcoholic meth addict son as a vice-president at his bank when the loser couldn't find a job anywhere else in town. Too much money and no brains in that family.
 
2012-12-06 11:07:12 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: GregGates

2. Never allow the muzzle of any firearm to point at anything you are not willing to destroy.


Good safety advice is important, but people carry this one too far: the muzzle has to be pointed *somewhere* at all times simply because it exists. According to this statement, I am willing to let the long guns destroy the top of the gun cabinet since the muzzles are pointed in that direction.

Instead, one could say "don't aim at anything you are not willing to destroy", but there would be exceptions for that too, like getting a know a new firearm and looking at the sight picture in a non-shooty way. 
.


"willing" and "wanting" are not necessarily the same thing though. Looking at the sight picture with your TV on the other end is okay because even though destroying your TV would suck, its replaceable. Your friend's forehead however is not.
 
2012-12-06 11:14:16 AM

Silverstaff: 1derful: The guy bringing his gun to the bank is fine, but the fact he was waving it around to show off the laser is not.

This.

You usually can't carry a gun into a bank. Yeah, a Bank President could probably get away with that.

Heck, I recall a story on Fark not too long ago about a Bank President who used his gun to thwart a robbery.

However, brandishing the firearm was way, WAY out of line. Trying to show off your new laser sights, in a bank, to a VP?

Bad Idea. Very Bad Idea.


I have carried a firearm into a credit union. On one occasion, the firearm was visibly displayed. I have never been an employee of the credit union.
 
2012-12-06 11:15:32 AM

Big Man On Campus: From reading a few stories like this one, I'm convinced of two possibilities:

1) There's apparently lots of people in the U.S. and elsewhere that have extreme anxiety at even seeing a gun not in the posession of law enforcement. They feel personally threatened when they see ordinary citizens armed.

OR

2) There's lots of gun owners who brandish their weapons around in complete violation of the law.


Both are true, but the first is more common. People are very ignorant, and ignorance breeds fear. I think most people would probably call the police if they saw someone bend or shift and inadvertently show their CCW. Which is why I make sure I always hold the back of my shirt when I bend.
 
2012-12-06 11:18:45 AM

twiztedjustin: From the article:

Karen Cenovic, a biatch that wants to be bank president, reported the incident to police and the board


+10
 
2012-12-06 11:32:06 AM
Administrative leave? For an administrator? (I know, stretching it, but that's pretty much what he is)

/oh wait, need to read in between the lines
//swap administrative and replace with dumbass, got it
 
2012-12-06 11:32:24 AM

Big Man On Campus: 1) There's apparently lots of people in the U.S. and elsewhere that have extreme anxiety at even seeing a gun not in the posession of law enforcement. They feel personally threatened when they see ordinary citizens armed.


I had an English girlfriend who would cross the street to stay away from American cops because they were armed, like they were just going to open fire. We were in Peru and she had a panic attack when we saw an armored car make a delivery to a bank and the driver and bank guards watched over the transaction with their guns drawn.

A lot of people have a fear of the weapon not the person behind it.
 
2012-12-06 11:39:11 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I had an English girlfriend who would cross the street to stay away from American cops because they were armed, like they were just going to open fire.


I'll bet she was lots of fun at parties...
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/hot like the savannah
 
2012-12-06 11:40:29 AM
www.amctv.com

Michael's a bank president. Bank presidents love lasers.
 
2012-12-06 11:51:16 AM

Big Man On Campus: From reading a few stories like this one, I'm convinced of two possibilities:

1) There's apparently lots of people in the U.S. and elsewhere that have extreme anxiety at even seeing a gun not in the posession of law enforcement. They feel personally threatened when they see ordinary citizens armed.

OR

2) There's lots of gun owners who brandish their weapons around in complete violation of the law.


No concept of an "and"?

#1 is correct while #2 is completely incorrect. If there were a "lot" of gun-owners doing the asshattery of this f*cktard, it wouldn't be news. Thank god this sh*t is still news.

And for those who DO think #2 is "common" based on news stories - you have no conception of how many gun owners act in such a way as to generate NO news. Remember: An infinite number of things are simultaneously absent.
 
2012-12-06 12:09:06 PM
I sense this is going to become a gun thread instead of a "how weird is Omaha" thread.

/Omaha transplant
 
2012-12-06 12:15:42 PM

Big Man On Campus: From reading a few stories like this one, I'm convinced of two possibilities:

1) There's apparently lots of people in the U.S. and elsewhere that have extreme anxiety at even seeing a gun not in the posession of law enforcement. They feel personally threatened when they see ordinary citizens armed.

OR

2) There's lots of gun owners who brandish their weapons around in complete violation of the law.


I'm a #1. But I'm Canadian and a lot of us are just like that.

In most first world nations, people walk around unarmed. I'd done it all my life. Crazy, I know.
 
2012-12-06 12:29:15 PM

screamingclock: This guy also hired his alcoholic meth addict son as a vice-president at his bank when the loser couldn't find a job anywhere else in town. Too much money and no brains in that family.


This. If you live in Omaha and pay attention to the news, this family is all kinds of dumb, aggressive and sad.
 
2012-12-06 12:35:49 PM
We permit guns in our company with the owner's approval. We've already fired someone for bringing one in without permission and being stupid with it.

Discretion is key.
 
2012-12-06 12:46:07 PM

Jument: Big Man On Campus: From reading a few stories like this one, I'm convinced of two possibilities:

1) There's apparently lots of people in the U.S. and elsewhere that have extreme anxiety at even seeing a gun not in the posession of law enforcement. They feel personally threatened when they see ordinary citizens armed.

OR

2) There's lots of gun owners who brandish their weapons around in complete violation of the law.

I'm a #1. But I'm Canadian and a lot of us are just like that.

In most first world nations, people walk around unarmed. I'd done it all my life. Crazy, I know.


Strangely, in the United States, citizens who legally carry firearms in public (contrasted with citizens who carry illegally, such as by doing so without a permit or when prohibited from possessing firearms entirely) commit violent crime at a rate lower than that of the general adult population.
 
2012-12-06 01:24:47 PM

Dimensio: Strangely, in the United States, citizens who legally carry firearms in public (contrasted with citizens who carry illegally, such as by doing so without a permit or when prohibited from possessing firearms entirely) commit violent crime at a rate lower than that of the general adult population.


Wait a minute. You mean to say that people who have demonstrated a respect and adherence to the law are less likely to break the law than average people?

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2012-12-06 01:33:15 PM
You won't find anyone more pro-gun than I, but if it is found that he actually pointed a firearm a that staff member, he should be in jail for a long damn time.

You pull that BS on a lot of folks and "unloaded" or not, they're going to do everything they can -and rightly so- to put as many of their own rounds through your center-mass.
 
2012-12-06 02:34:37 PM

Vash's Apprentice: [www.examiner.com image 314x301]
Agrees


hehe, that's the first thing I thought of aw well...
 
2012-12-06 02:40:54 PM
Never, ever point your weapon at a target you do not intend to fire upon. Regardless as to if you *know* if the weapon is readied or not.

Firearm safety 101.
 
2012-12-06 03:20:11 PM

GregGates: 1. Always treat all firearms as if they were loaded.
2. Never allow the muzzle of any firearm to point at anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Never put your finger near the trigger until you are ready to fire. Do not depend on any mechanical device for safety!
4. Always be sure of your target, and what is behind and in front of it.


if you ain't gonna shoot nothing keep it pointed at the ground. always

i think I learned that when I was 12. what the hell is wrong with folks?
 
2012-12-06 03:39:12 PM

Cast: We permit guns in our company with the owner's approval. We've already fired someone for bringing one in without permission and being stupid with it.

Discretion is key.


This, mainly.
Lots of people carry guns, but the vast majority of them are smarter than to talk about it.
Too many soccer moms with 911 on speed dial.
 
2012-12-06 04:04:22 PM
way south

Lots of people carry guns, but the vast majority of them are smarter than to talk about it.
Too many soccer moms with 911 on speed dial.
Nothing wrong with open carry.

And if the asshats in blue would be trained properly those calls you refer to would be treated the same as a call reporting "I just saw a black man on main street"
 
2012-12-06 04:48:33 PM

Jument: I'm a #1. But I'm Canadian and a lot of us are just like that.

In most first world nations, people walk around unarmed. I'd done it all my life. Crazy, I know.


I've walked around the U.S. unarmed my entire life, I've never felt threatened by someone else walking around armed. I don't own weapons, but I do know how to use them.

Have you ever touched a gun in your life? I suspect the answer is no, hence your phobia.
 
2012-12-06 05:12:46 PM
My Wachovia used to have a 'no guns' sticker on the door like it was supposed to protect them against crooks or something. When Wells Fargo bought them out, they took the sticker off. Now I don't have to leave my gun in the damn car to deposit a check anymore.

I would like to see more businesses use these signs:
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Especially you, Toys R Us. You don't allow guns in the store but you sell toy guns? What the fark?
 
2012-12-06 08:14:45 PM
FTA:
Security cameras aren't pointed at Cenovic's office

This is good information to know.
 
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